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September 23, 2020, 08:28:17 AM
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I'm starting with DIA. It is listed on top exchanges, has good partnership, the team isn't relenting and its price still drops drastically. So, I put up the question to learn with the trend on what actually thrives the price of a token/coin?

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September 23, 2020, 09:03:40 AM
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That would depends from a lots factor :
1. Demand > Supply
2. Influencer
3. Good crypto news
4. Trend/Hype
5. Bitcoin price pump, etc.

AFAIK DIA is a new DeFi token, that's why the price reach new ATH on August (DeFi hype). Bad news on DeFi token (YAM crash, Sushi crash) and Bitcoin is dumped probably the reason. Because most of altcoin will always following the Bitcoin price as the mother of cryptocurrency.


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September 23, 2020, 09:30:45 AM
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if i may add here, if we're not talking about defi tokens only. good example for pump coins are masternode coins, but they are not only pump but pump and dump. so that kind of movement depends on the team behind the project. usually they do such pumps at early stage of their listing, once naive users are continuously buying, they will slowly start to dump and then gone..the reason why there are so many dead alts. because the aim of most of these projects is to rekt those buyers.

what else is the reason of pump? to create noise in the market. if there's no solid reason why a specific coin is pumping, then be sharp as their downfall is approaching!

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September 23, 2020, 09:41:18 AM
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Besides Bitcoin(BTC), fundamentals doesn't really matter that much in the cryptocurrency space. Basically, which projects pump in price completely depends on how much effort and money they throw at marketing their coin. 🤷‍♂️

..and this is assuming that certain projects actually has a good use-case and are actually legitimate. Which, most projects really don't have both.

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September 23, 2020, 09:52:06 AM
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Besides Bitcoin(BTC), fundamentals doesn't really matter that much in the cryptocurrency space. Basically, which projects pump in price completely depends on how much effort and money they throw at marketing their coin. 🤷‍♂️

..and this is assuming that certain projects actually has a good use-case and are actually legitimate. Which, most projects really don't have both.

Using this ideology in the case of DIA, what do you think is the problem with the downturn price in the market and they have partnership trooping in almost every week.

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September 23, 2020, 09:53:20 AM
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Besides Bitcoin(BTC), fundamentals doesn't really matter that much in the cryptocurrency space. Basically, which projects pump in price completely depends on how much effort and money they throw at marketing their coin. 🤷‍♂️

..and this is assuming that certain projects actually has a good use-case and are actually legitimate. Which, most projects really don't have both.

What did these DeFi projects have rather than yield farming and liquidity pooling? I really don't see anything "exceptional" in it when the token was not really meant to be valued based on a price tag but still, it crossed BTC and is now worth over 2 BTC and many shit tokens which have no use case are also being fled higher by the investors just to dupe innocent investors and steal their money this way. I remember old times when we saw 100x coins too since the beginning of crypto, but these 1000x and then a DeFi-nite crash is the all new trend currently.



Using this ideology in the case of DIA, what do you think is the problem with the downturn price in the market and they have partnership trooping in almost every week.

Very unusual to say, but everything follows the trend and the ongoing trend is now bearish atm, which is why this one went with the flow.

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September 23, 2020, 09:54:30 AM
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Using this ideology in the case of DIA, what do you think is the problem with the downturn price in the market and they have partnership trooping in almost every week.

I literally know nothing about this "DIA" project, but one thing's highly likely: they're lacking in the advertising and social media department because "branding" and marketing in general is what makes coins pump in price. No matter how god-tier level a certain project is, if anyone barely knows it, there's a good chance that it wouldn't gain traction in terms of getting people to rush in and buy that certain coin/token.

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September 23, 2020, 11:34:17 AM
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That would depends from a lots factor :
1. Demand > Supply
2. Influencer
3. Good crypto news
4. Trend/Hype
5. Bitcoin price pump, etc.

AFAIK DIA is a new DeFi token, that's why the price reach new ATH on August (DeFi hype). Bad news on DeFi token (YAM crash, Sushi crash) and Bitcoin is dumped probably the reason. Because most of altcoin will always following the Bitcoin price as the mother of cryptocurrency.


I think there are just two types of reasons for Bitcoin Pump. One is the utility and second is manipulation. Whenever a token is useful it would get naturally pumped even if it goes at a gradual pace like Chain-link which actually showed a great pump after it proved results. On the other hand there are certain tokens which are purely manipulated by some whale groups who take the price up either by hiring influencers or using some other mode. It's easier to find utility of a token but impossible to find manipulated tokens.
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September 23, 2020, 12:13:45 PM
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It depends on the institutional investor, also depends on whether the organization wants to go far or just speculate short-term with the project.  in the past we have projects like WING, EGLD, RUNE and they are all listed on Binance.
Therefore, not a project with a good foundation is worth holding, we also have to analyze more about how the project distributes tokens to know whether it is a good or bad project.
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September 23, 2020, 01:02:07 PM
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the trend / hype and good news are the strongest to make the token pump price.  for example, the UNI token is currently hype because they provide free tokens for some of its users and are currently hype.  the price is insane.  Many people have started switching to UNI tokens because of their listing on Binance and that has also driven the price up. 

Fundamentals are also an important part when tokens are pumped as well as other factors such as technical analysis, influencers, demand and supply and other factors.
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I feel like the hype is depending on the marketing as well as community. If you do marketing very well and find a very hyped community, it will go beyond your wildest dreams thanks to them, you do not have to do anything, people who take up the token will be promoting it more than you ever could.

Project owners could talk about how awesome their project is all day and it wouldn't really do anything for people but if you end up having a huge community that promotes you, they will get their friends and family and online people all interested into the project as well. That is why I am trying to make sure that if there is a good coin out there that I want to invest, I will check the community, if there is a huge community everywhere even unrelated that means I can join.

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I'm starting with DIA. It is listed on top exchanges, has good partnership, the team isn't relenting and its price still drops drastically. So, I put up the question to learn with the trend on what actually thrives the price of a token/coin?
DIA is indeed a very potential defi coin, but just recently, bitcoin has been adjusted quite deeply so its value has been drastically reduced. Look closely, around the defi coin also plummeted like Sushi, SRM, SOL and COMP, ... the hype pushed the price of DIA up too high and human fear also made the price of DIA drop. So when it falls sharply in a short period of time, it is too normal, the defi trend will remain and it will continue to climb, dont worry mate.


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September 23, 2020, 05:04:06 PM
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I'm starting with DIA. It is listed on top exchanges, has good partnership, the team isn't relenting and its price still drops drastically. So, I put up the question to learn with the trend on what actually thrives the price of a token/coin?
I'm seeing the same thing with my one or two projects on the watchlist (of course "a good project" might be different for everyone), so I wouldn't be surprised. The obvious answer is because not every holders of the tokens hold it for the fundamentals, they might trade it for the sake of getting profits every day and not long-term holding. Mix that with a low volume or bad tokenomics and you might see a lot of "P&D" on the market.

You should not chase pumps if you want a long-term investment, and always use the money you can afford to lose. That will help you from checking the price every day.

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September 23, 2020, 05:38:45 PM
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What drives the price is supply and demand! Always! Is it natural or it is manipulation and that something affects the supply or demand, later that will have effects on the price! You can give me zillion other factors, but all factors you can think of will have something with supply or demand at first, if you have power/knowledge to manipulate with one of these two, you will have power over price as well! You can drive it in the direction you want.
It's economy in the real, but crypto market is the free market, you can follow the hype or don't, it's up to you! And depending on your decisions you will make profit, you can lose money, or you can be happy you didn't do anything, you kept your holding safe for future!

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September 23, 2020, 06:38:09 PM
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Many things work behind any coin/token pump. If you are talking about a natural pump then depends on the community. If a coin/token community increase rapidly then demand of that coin/token increase rapidly. As a result that coin/token price would bump naturally. Also, price somehow depends on the total and circulation supply. In simple words, if an increase buys pressure means you will notice a pump for that coin.

If you are talking about a sudden pump then there is some other reason. Most sudden pumps happen due to manipulation and market news. It creates a FOMO and traders jump on it. So that's how increase buys pressure and pump price as well. But that kind of pump doesn't last for long. So before you get in into any coin/token should realize the reason behind of pump. Then you will not regret later.

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I'm starting with DIA. It is listed on top exchanges, has good partnership, the team isn't relenting and its price still drops drastically. So, I put up the question to learn with the trend on what actually thrives the price of a token/coin?

Most of the times you should take a look on milestones described in their white papers, or look specialized blog/forum were are described useful news (like a new partnership, or an upcoming fork!).

Pay attention, some coins can move just randomly due a low market cap. Never go all-in or waste an high amount of cash in these products.

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If it's about shitcoin pump: coordinated efforts from shiller (media), pumper (whales), exchange, and enthusiasts who got FOMO'd without realizing.

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September 23, 2020, 07:01:11 PM
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I'm starting with DIA. It is listed on top exchanges, has good partnership, the team isn't relenting and its price still drops drastically. So, I put up the question to learn with the trend on what actually thrives the price of a token/coin?

So here's the catch, to you the price of $DIA token is dumping but to others, especially those that bought when the token wasn't in the spotlight like early adoptor, they're obviously in profit. If you check-out the token on coinmarketcap, it still shows that $DIA is currently giving a +50% ROI that's if you have bought within the timeframe they (coinmarketcap) started tracking the price. The best way to Invest in altcoins is to get in at presale or when no body is talking about it yet. It's a high risk, high rewarded game.

Concerning your question, the concept of pumping coins in the altcoin industry is quite simple. Get everyone talking about your project. A recent perfect example was the $UNI (Uniswap) token that got everyone in the community taking about them with their airdrop. We saw the impact that event had on the price of their tokens and if not for the bearish market conditions caused by the correction in bitcoin, more highs would had been recorded.

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So, I put up the question to learn with the trend on what actually thrives the price of a token/coin?



I think the reason for that is bitcoin price which determines the price for altcoins. When bitcoin gets bull, most altcoins too get some bull and if bitcoin goes bear, it will also affect altcoins  no matter the technology.
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What makes a token pump is the demand, demand is based on the hype so basically we can say that demand is drive by several factors that lies in the marketing of the project. The only thing that will make the token pump is when the demand for it increases, there are key takeaways to do it. Noticeably, token pump follows the bitcoin trend, you can see a historic lift of the market when bitcoin reached its ATH last 2017, it was like a crypto party.

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September 23, 2020, 08:39:49 PM
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I'm starting with DIA. It is listed on top exchanges, has good partnership, the team isn't relenting and its price still drops drastically. So, I put up the question to learn with the trend on what actually thrives the price of a token/coin?

•Demand
•Pump/Dump manipulation
•Shill/Fud
•Upcoming big events or updates

When it comes to movement then there are several factors that is mainly considered to be the reason on why it do move and those are things mentioned above.
On that DIA thing then dropping price isnt only or can be seen on this project alone but in all most project in the market even the team is doing their best
on making updates and any progress but doesnt mean that it would pump out on next move.It all matters into those people who do buy and support this
project and the people who do sell their token holdings for profits.

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I'm starting with DIA. It is listed on top exchanges, has good partnership, the team isn't relenting and its price still drops drastically. So, I put up the question to learn with the trend on what actually thrives the price of a token/coin?

The reasons for the dip in DIA price isn't far-fetched. DIA was first listed about a month ago so it's still in the process of price discovery and it's doing so when the overall crypto market is taking a solid hit. A quick look at the market will tell you that majority (if not all) of the tokens that reached their all time high in August - early September are currently at break-even prices (more than 50% drop from their tops).

Whether you're a trader or an investor, always take into account the overall market direction. Trading psychology plays a big role in trading and right now, a lot of people are afraid and don't mind selling at even lower prices to get out of their positions.


Like everyone said, market prices are greatly influenced by demand and supply factors and right now, there are more people buying than selling. Given the fact that DIA is the new kid in the block, people don't really know how low it might get and will panic sell if they price keep going lower.

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The main reason why a certain token/altcoin pump is because it somewhat being hyped by its developer. The legitimacy of the project and being listed to known exchangers is the only thing that could sustain its market price and not drop. But seeing it now is on the surge as the Defi system hits on the market, this is a big factor that uplifts most new projects today but I was not confident if this will take so long and the investors will keep holding.

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September 23, 2020, 10:59:57 PM
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Many things can make a token pump, usually the increase in the price of Bitcoin which often causes the token pump.
And regarding DIA token that was successfully pumped, it was due to the hype that had happened to DeFi projects.
Even though DeFi projects are very profitable this year, still be careful in choosing DeFi projects for investment,
because several DeFi projects proved scams. And the price of DIA token is currently falling quite drastically,
this is because of the correction that occurred in Bitcoin.

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September 23, 2020, 11:33:49 PM
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^ It could be the reason for certain factors and it has been mentioned earlier post above. Of course Defi projects as of now were very hot to the eyes of the investors, probably because the think that it has a hype and that is the reason for the token will pump up in the market. Anothe reason is probably most of the Defi project owners was actively have marketing promotions during these days, those factors was all at once that makes the token pumped in the market. Unless, if the owner manipulating it or have pump and dump.
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If you want to invest and the price is going up steadily, you have to look at the project based on two things, firstly based on the active community and also the marketing team,
because the coin / token price will go up more easily when the community on the project is strong,
if in the trading chart, the community is like a support area that will continue to hold when the price goes down, so that the price doesn't fall deeper.
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There are a lot of reasons why does a coin pumps up and some of them are already given but for me, one of the factors is the

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We all know that this is centralized some of them so we are making sure that they can control and manage what is the possible movement of it.

Investors because they are one of the contributors sometimes are the whales who make a large investment on this coin and cause a large increase in the value so the other people will encourage to support this too and invest.

Influencer some of them have a big role too mostly if you will get a known artist which can promote easily and encourage their followers or fans.

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I'm starting with DIA. It is listed on top exchanges, has good partnership, the team isn't relenting and its price still drops drastically. So, I put up the question to learn with the trend on what actually thrives the price of a token/coin?
It is a common thing to happen, although the project has a lot corporation with a big company the price will fall if the market sentiment is bad. As you can see right now, almost crypto currency price even gold are decreasing, that maybe the investor aware that economic situation will slowly recover especially US government. You can see the DXY chart, the candle pattern has formed a head and shoulders reversal it could give a bad affect for crypto currency price.
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I think the reason for that is bitcoin price which determines the price for altcoins. When bitcoin gets bull, most altcoins too get some bull and if bitcoin goes bear, it will also affect altcoins  no matter the technology.

When thinking of altcoins in general(as a whole), it sure does mostly follow bitcoin's price to some extent; but obviously specific altcoins can also move up and down on their own, and based on OP's main post he/she was obviously talking about a specific one.

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I'm starting with DIA. It is listed on top exchanges, has good partnership, the team isn't relenting and its price still drops drastically. So, I put up the question to learn with the trend on what actually thrives the price of a token/coin?
Promotions in many places would be one way that the team can do to lift the price increases. With the promotion, people will look and research the project, and if they see the project can give something to them, people will invest, and that can lift the price to increase. But if you want to know when the pump comes, that will depend on how big interest from people to that project, so at the same time, many people buy the token, and that can make the price start the rally. But DIA is a newcomer at the market, and the team needs hard work to convince people to invest in that project.

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September 24, 2020, 04:36:00 AM
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Well the usual reason for token pump is the high demand, this depends on the token base on its features and use case. If its a good project then expect it to have more investors/supporters.

The good marketing of their project can also influence the price so more exposures means high chance of getting more investors that can trigger the price to increase.

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Some other point you should note OP is that, when a certain project focus on an already existing technology is trying to over take the previous project but doesn't record success, it often after the prices of the project heavily. Just did some research on the $DIA project and found out its technology is focus on Oracle which obviously means it would be promoted as the chainlink killer or was promoted as such but when the community saw that was impossible to accomplished they must have panicked and start selling their bags to secure profit or minimize lost.

Although bitcoin price corrections is the major reason behind alts bleeding but some are currently been oversold due to other factors like that I just explained above. On a general note the alt market is down and that if DeFi are bleeding therefore since your focus project fits in both category (alts and DeFi) you shouldn't expect anything different.

My advice now would be to either sell off your bags and secure your funds in bitcoin because nobody knows how far the market will go down but the possibility are very high. If Bitcoin falls to $8.800 then you should expect all alts bleeding further down and DeFi related project will be topping the chart.

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September 24, 2020, 08:00:12 AM
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Besides Bitcoin(BTC), fundamentals doesn't really matter that much in the cryptocurrency space. Basically, which projects pump in price completely depends on how much effort and money they throw at marketing their coin. 🤷‍♂️

..and this is assuming that certain projects actually has a good use-case and are actually legitimate. Which, most projects really don't have both.

Using this ideology in the case of DIA, what do you think is the problem with the downturn price in the market and they have partnership trooping in almost every week.

Are you referring to the DIA that has a bounty campaign here?  If so here's their Announcement thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5260766.0  Seems like they stopped their bounty, it could somewhat affect it's value. The price is declining, reduced a dollar on it's value. As far as I know, the defi hype is also declining it's mainly the reason of DIA's price drop. If it's a good project it will regain it's higher value or even reach new ATH, but who knows.
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The main reason why a certain token/altcoin pump is because it somewhat being hyped by its developer. The legitimacy of the project and being listed to known exchangers is the only thing that could sustain its market price and not drop. But seeing it now is on the surge as the Defi system hits on the market, this is a big factor that uplifts most new projects today but I was not confident if this will take so long and the investors will keep holding.

Yes and no, sometimes, developers recruit people to their side, either as influencers or as advisors, and these are generally not necessarily shillers (not directly anyway) but people who know their followers watch their Twitter or whatever. All they need to do is announce something and boom. Sell out. Pump.

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September 24, 2020, 11:01:18 AM
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As for altcoins right now, I think what makes a pump is that they can market their coins.
Most of the currencies on the market today do not have too many real differences, but there are still many currencies with very high prices. Simply because they know how to advertise and use rumors.


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September 24, 2020, 08:20:12 PM
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I'm starting with DIA. It is listed on top exchanges, has good partnership, the team isn't relenting and its price still drops drastically. So, I put up the question to learn with the trend on what actually thrives the price of a token/coin?
of course, the HYPE that makes the price of a token go to the moon...
Just look at how the DeFi project is currently experiencing a drastic increase in price, it's all because of the HYPE that is happening in the market. I think you have to be patient, DIA is one of the good projects and has listed on the major exchanges.



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September 24, 2020, 09:58:34 PM
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I'm starting with DIA. It is listed on top exchanges, has good partnership, the team isn't relenting and its price still drops drastically. So, I put up the question to learn with the trend on what actually thrives the price of a token/coin?
of course, the HYPE that makes the price of a token go to the moon...
Just look at how the DeFi project is currently experiencing a drastic increase in price, it's all because of the HYPE that is happening in the market. I think you have to be patient, DIA is one of the good projects and has listed on the major exchanges.
ICO
IEO/STO
and now
DEFI

these are the trends that had happened on this market aside from Bitcoin market itself.We had witnessed on how projects do fly to the moon when it comes to price and shoot up
into those unexpected values or numbers.

Lots had made themselves rich and lots have wrecked their lives because of it.This had been pretty common in the market.Just wondering on what would be the next trend
after this DeFi hype.

Driving prices on high levels would needed some several factors which had been mentioned already above, there no need to say it again.

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September 24, 2020, 09:59:10 PM
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I'm starting with DIA. It is listed on top exchanges, has good partnership, the team isn't relenting and its price still drops drastically. So, I put up the question to learn with the trend on what actually thrives the price of a token/coin?
Demand and supply can affect much the price movement and of course the market sentiment. I heard much about this token and it looks like a normal dump so nothing to worry about and if DIA continue to work for sure they will survive and you’ll see another pump before the year end. Every token has it own history of down trend, its a matter of time before they pump again. The price movement consist of many indicators, the news can move it up and down but still depend on how the project works.

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September 25, 2020, 02:58:17 AM
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What makes a token pump is the demand, demand is based on the hype so basically we can say that demand is drive by several factors that lies in the marketing of the project. The only thing that will make the token pump is when the demand for it increases, there are key takeaways to do it. Noticeably, token pump follows the bitcoin trend, you can see a historic lift of the market when bitcoin reached its ATH last 2017, it was like a crypto party.
Indeed, it was because of demand and nothing more. Since crypto was decentralized authorities or whatsoever have no direct contact to manipulate the price of a certain coin so yeah it was all in the demand. Hype and demand is kinda the same though, if you'll think of it if one coin was in hype then the demand is automatically high and vise versa. Bitcoin trend was also a factor on making a tokens price. If you will take a look for the past, wherever Bitcoin goes to either to pump or dump other coins come along with it.



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There are alot of ways that tokens get pumped. The first and most reliable is when it gets added to a new and more liquid exchange. Basically whenever a coin or token gets added to Coinbase or Binance it almost always has a pump because it leads to more audience and more whales use those exchanges.

Another is usually if there is a large volume and usually some bots and monitors pick it up. They see the volume and want to get in as soon as possible and they usually buy in. Then what happens is the coin usually appears in the "Most Volume" or "Most gainers" and usually other traders will see it is rising, see its up 50% and they think it will go to 100% so they all buy in.

Another area is when its promoted on Reddit, Bitcointalk, and Crypto twitter or by some paid groups. Usually this has tons of people FOMO into the coin like everyone did with Sushi or Link or UNI and its why we saw these crazy 20-30% moves.

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Nobody really talks about the real reason which is a token being good. I mean I get that there are tons of good coins out there who didn't get the attention it needs, but the reality is that we actually have good coins that are high, that is the main reason. Think of it this way, if it is a good coin that doesn't mean it will go up, it could stay low, if it is a bad coin it will stay low, but if it is a high coin it is definitely good, there is no doubt in my mind that any high priced and high market cap coin would be a bad one, it has to be a great one to go that high.

This means you could talk about hype, you could talk about supply/demand all you want, even community, but if a coin is not as good as it claims, it will never be a great high priced one ever.

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September 25, 2020, 12:39:26 PM
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We must remember that any coin that survives with Pump and Dump is like a lottery, in many telegram groups there are people looking for those who place 1BTC or 2BTC and they return them with a 30% profit, thanks to this, many altcoins still survive when bitcoin falls in price.

I have seen many coins on Binance that have 30%, 20% profit and this is due to the pump and dump, normally the occurrence periods range from 1 week to 1 month for the pump to occur.

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September 25, 2020, 12:44:36 PM
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$24M for its daily volume seems good and high.

Updates do also make a token pump. Whenever they send good news of their progress, this triggers investors to go and catch them as quick as possible.



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September 25, 2020, 01:01:55 PM
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the only few reasons i know what actually makes a token pump is when the bitcoin was pumped for sure the token's price will pump as well also when there are some hypes about the coin not just the token but even in bitcoin the price will pump as well. based on first page the reply of Jawhead999 there are more ways that can affect pump of a coin that's good to know.

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September 25, 2020, 02:12:04 PM
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I'm starting with DIA. It is listed on top exchanges, has good partnership, the team isn't relenting and its price still drops drastically. So, I put up the question to learn with the trend on what actually thrives the price of a token/coin?
Price drop is one of the normal behave of market .You can always face on market not only for DIA but also for all token .DIA is a good project i also follow the price chart of it , i have seen it's a normal trend so i didn't scare a lot .However a good project always have the potentiality to go up no need to force it for buy .

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September 25, 2020, 03:10:36 PM
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One of the strongest candidates for pump'n'dump schemes is a token with low liquidity and one that hasn't made exponential all time highs before so there aren't gigantic sell walls that might be too costly to break anywhere.

Speculators routinely hunt for such tokens, load up gradually, sometimes within 1-2 months, then start the hype program, where telegram groups, twitter and similar social media create rumors, eg. mainnet launch, corporate partnership and similar buzzword lingo...

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I'm starting with DIA. It is listed on top exchanges, has good partnership, the team isn't relenting and its price still drops drastically. So, I put up the question to learn with the trend on what actually thrives the price of a token/coin?

What particular exchange you are referring? I am asking this question as you might consider the exchange as top exchange while majority of us here believe it's a garbage exchange. You know, some exchange had some decent volume per record but in reality they are just faking their volume, that's why the coin did not grow when listed in those exchanges.

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September 25, 2020, 03:24:15 PM
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the only few reasons i know what actually makes a token pump is when the bitcoin was pumped for sure the token's price will pump as well also when there are some hypes about the coin not just the token but even in bitcoin the price will pump as well. based on first page the reply of Jawhead999 there are more ways that can affect pump of a coin that's good to know.

I do agree that any motion in a market value of bitcoin also do affect the market value of other cryptocurrencies. As we all know amongst the cryptocurrencies bitcoin was the well known coin and based on my observation if the bitcoin balue pumped up it is expected that other coin may also have any motion. And aside from it we may also refer the demand of the token or coin, if the token you're hodling are in demand then we maybe able to utter that the token may pumped up.

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September 25, 2020, 03:59:23 PM
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I'm starting with DIA. It is listed on top exchanges, has good partnership, the team isn't relenting and its price still drops drastically. So, I put up the question to learn with the trend on what actually thrives the price of a token/coin?
Price drop is one of the normal behave of market .You can always face on market not only for DIA but also for all token .DIA is a good project i also follow the price chart of it , i have seen it's a normal trend so i didn't scare a lot .However a good project always have the potentiality to go up no need to force it for buy .

Yeah, Its called market normal cycles, however panic selling causing the bearish behavior of market with your crying. Let them cry only the strong survive. So, just buy and hodl. Indeed DIA is a good project and worth investment. Everything will go up again, just matter of course of time.
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September 25, 2020, 04:05:11 PM
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 So, I put up the question to learn with the trend on what actually thrives the price of a token/coin?

More buys than sell within a short period of time is the reason why token experience a sudden pump. Hype that is mostly caused by trend is the more specific one. Good advertisements and marketing also affects it.

Most of the time pumps makes the token reach a new ATH, so the best thing to do after that is sell it.

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Most of the time pumps makes the token reach a new ATH, so the best thing to do after that is sell it.
So whenever there is hype make sure to be updated and monitors it carefully as many is waiting for the right time to sell and if the project is only due to hype and does not have a vivid plan of their project tendency it may not recover once the price dump. Only two things can make the price pump it's because the project is too goo that we know it will be worth investing or due to over marketing that only rides to the hype of other projects. If both is meant the pump may last longer than those scammy one.

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September 25, 2020, 06:33:52 PM
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I highly doubt that people would be overwhelmingly support something that sucks and very bad if they didn't believed on it for some reason. Not that people are waiting around everywhere hoping to spend their money on something that will go down, nobody dreams "I hope this investment goes to waste", they want the best for their investments and they do not hype anything about for no reason.

But sometimes they are wrong, humans are constantly wrong, look at the world and how we are doing right now, all those bad things are done because some people did something wrong back in the day, which means tokens do pump even if they are scam because they simply exist and some people made a wrong investment and hyped it in some communities making them famous for no reason but being wrong.
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I highly doubt that people would be overwhelmingly support something that sucks and very bad if they didn't believed on it for some reason. Not that people are waiting around everywhere hoping to spend their money on something that will go down, nobody dreams "I hope this investment goes to waste", they want the best for their investments and they do not hype anything about for no reason.

But sometimes they are wrong, humans are constantly wrong, look at the world and how we are doing right now, all those bad things are done because some people did something wrong back in the day, which means tokens do pump even if they are scam because they simply exist and some people made a wrong investment and hyped it in some communities making them famous for no reason but being wrong.
Some investors just want to take their part on the current market trend, As long as they can make money from it, They will just throw their money to earn more money. People are just getting tired of some unreliable project plans that gained so much in their crowdfunding and leave their investors after collecting investment from them. Investors just want to earn money and compared to shitty ICO and IEO before, They can earn real profit in the latest market trend. Those investors don't really care now that the pump is because of the hype.

If this Defi projects introduced before when ICO is on it's prime, I'm sure that everyone will just ignore Defi and there won't be a hype happening. Picking the real project over the shitty project that there is no goal is a logical choice before but today after many "real projects" became scam, Investors bend the logical way of thinking and just go with the project that can make a profit.
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September 25, 2020, 09:54:01 PM
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Nobody really talks about the real reason which is a token being good. I mean I get that there are tons of good coins out there who didn't get the attention it needs, but the reality is that we actually have good coins that are high, that is the main reason. Think of it this way, if it is a good coin that doesn't mean it will go up, it could stay low, if it is a bad coin it will stay low, but if it is a high coin it is definitely good, there is no doubt in my mind that any high priced and high market cap coin would be a bad one, it has to be a great one to go that high.

This means you could talk about hype, you could talk about supply/demand all you want, even community, but if a coin is not as good as it claims, it will never be a great high priced one ever.

From my perspective I agree with some of the arguments here but perhaps not all of them and not fully either. It is true that above all a coin needs to have intrinsic value. Having a true value means that investors see the potential and start investing and holding.

Now imagine, the supply and demand for that coin despite it carrying value isn't as volatile, this would start a near market saturation with very few activities. Demand won't be so high either, but the supply is already large.

In effect, you will need to market that coin so that investors big and small understand that value. This in theory should lead to a more dynamic market where trading goes well.

If the same strategy say was to be applied to a shit coin, it doesn't matter how much you bend backwards investors won't stay in it for the long run, everybody will look to dump ASAP.

The point here, is that all of the above mentioned points work together to drive a pump, and only when a coin has true value that pump is maintained.
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 So, I put up the question to learn with the trend on what actually thrives the price of a token/coin?

More buys than sell within a short period of time is the reason why token experience a sudden pump. Hype that is mostly caused by trend is the more specific one. Good advertisements and marketing also affects it.

Most of the time pumps makes the token reach a new ATH, so the best thing to do after that is sell it.
That’s how the traders works, they buy and sell at no specific market trend because they are just playing the game so they can win and get home with profit. The token goes up because of its own potential and its product for the market, if DIA don’t have it then it will not recover from the dump but looking on its price right now, it slowly coming back. Demand and supply matters all the time, this can be the simple reason of a pump and dump in crypto market.

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Most often it depends on the marketing and releasing of updated progress in the development. Technical analysis with a reliable partnership also do count.

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I have noticed that there are upcoming events that make tokens become pumps, especially when the tokens will be listed
on popular exchanges like Binance. Usually these tokens will be pumped, so my advice if there is any updates regarding
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Dia being a new token contributed to it actually having a good price at the start, but by the long term, it would go down no doubt. Most investors actually just buy new tokens at the beginning, then sell them when first placed into an exchange to profit out of it, and after that, they're basically out of that tokens' market. It's like experiencing building a pretty good house, but then the foundations are actually just a few pillars made of weak wood, even if the team actually perseveres to support it, it would only collapse sooner or later.

If the team continues to do proper advertising and marketing strategies, price should go back up if investors see its worth. It may take a long time though, and the longer it takes, the more risk that it would actually turn into a shit coin imo.

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September 26, 2020, 05:23:23 AM
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I'm starting with DIA. It is listed on top exchanges, has good partnership, the team isn't relenting and its price still drops drastically. So, I put up the question to learn with the trend on what actually thrives the price of a token/coin?
Being a New Defi token it s normal to reach the Top upon listing but this will end sooner since there are no enough reason for this to pump
You are asking about what makes the token pump,then that is mostly happens when the token was being pumped by whales,or the demand and supply is really increasing.
Most often it depends on the marketing and releasing of updated progress in the development. Technical analysis with a reliable partnership also do count.
T.A is good to make people inside market act wise,either to believe or not and this makes the market moves.



To OP if you are planning to invest in DIA,i guess better to wait till next year to find out if this is really profitable or another trap.

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those are actually the traits of a coin to pump but the big question why its still dump . im not familiar to dia but this coin is new or old ? if the its not really new and it experience to pump before why are you worrying too much when other older coins are also got into that phase and now is a time that all coins are down . come back again next time and update us by the time the market returns to normal , lets see if your dia coin is still on the same position because if it is , there could be specific reason for that .
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If truly I said their shouldn't be pump and dump in the market. Its just caused negative impact on the market. And its not happened because of development of project because most of the time pump is created by exchange owner. Binance is one of those exchanges. They can list any shit coin and makes 1000 percent pump. They took profit and their customer got stuck buying at high. This should stop.

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The most common answer and what I'm gonna answer to is the demand. This is the same aspect of the people before there is no real price with the use of the gold and the silver and because of the trading and exchange they become valued and used the silver and gold for transactions and now they have valued. The same with the token if they are not going to be a demand coin they not become one of the most popular like the others.
If truly I said their shouldn't be pump and dump in the market. Its just caused negative impact on the market. And its not happened because of development of project because most of the time pump is created by exchange owner. Binance is one of those exchanges. They can list any shit coin and makes 1000 percent pump. They took profit and their customer got stuck buying at high. This should stop.

This is the reason why we does need to have a background check about the coin first and avoid getting too much invest to a shitcoin that we doesn't know where it came from and when will makes a good market trend.

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If truly I said their shouldn't be pump and dump in the market. Its just caused negative impact on the market. And its not happened because of development of project because most of the time pump is created by exchange owner. Binance is one of those exchanges. They can list any shit coin and makes 1000 percent pump. They took profit and their customer got stuck buying at high. This should stop.

The topic does not tackles about the pump and dump scheme, rather asking why a token or any cryptocurrencies are experiencing pumps on it's value. The reason is simple, and it is because demand is much on a particular period of time resulting on a pumped value.  If Binance is allowing pump and dump, it will be a negative perception to their image.
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The most common answer and what I'm gonna answer to is the demand. This is the same aspect of the people before there is no real price with the use of the gold and the silver and because of the trading and exchange they become valued and used the silver and gold for transactions and now they have valued. The same with the token if they are not going to be a demand coin they not become one of the most popular like the others.
If truly I said their shouldn't be pump and dump in the market. Its just caused negative impact on the market. And its not happened because of development of project because most of the time pump is created by exchange owner. Binance is one of those exchanges. They can list any shit coin and makes 1000 percent pump. They took profit and their customer got stuck buying at high. This should stop.

This is the reason why we does need to have a background check about the coin first and avoid getting too much invest to a shitcoin that we doesn't know where it came from and when will makes a good market trend.

The token will only pump if and only if the said token is on high demand. Of course its the only way that you can say that the token your investing in is in pump and if it is on pump your lucky enough and i bet its time to trade your coin. But at the end of the day dumping and pumping of token are only depend on how the market demand that coin. We only need to check the background of that coin and know if the coin was in a good team.

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I'm starting with DIA. It is listed on top exchanges, has good partnership, the team isn't relenting and its price still drops drastically. So, I put up the question to learn with the trend on what actually thrives the price of a token/coin?
There are many things to consider when we ask for what make a token price to pump, one the demand if the demand is high and the supply of the token is low then can really make the price to pump, secondly is the way the team of the project handling the market of the project if they are wise enough on how to get the good market of the project then the project is successful making the price also to pump. There are many reasons but these I stated here is the major reasons.
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If truly I said their shouldn't be pump and dump in the market. Its just caused negative impact on the market. And its not happened because of development of project because most of the time pump is created by exchange owner. Binance is one of those exchanges. They can list any shit coin and makes 1000 percent pump. They took profit and their customer got stuck buying at high. This should stop.
Binance have a great impact in why altcoins get pump. After listing in Binance exchange, most of the project are starting to pump. People have so much trust in Binance. So if they got listed in it, the trust will also be in their project. Demand is the other thing to consider why token get pump. If a great news coming ahead about the project we can expect that before the event can happen it will start to pump while dump can be cause by bad news about the crypto world or project itself.

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I'm starting with DIA. It is listed on top exchanges, has good partnership, the team isn't relenting and its price still drops drastically. So, I put up the question to learn with the trend on what actually thrives the price of a token/coin?
There are many things to consider when we ask for what make a token price to pump, one the demand if the demand is high and the supply of the token is low then can really make the price to pump, secondly is the way the team of the project handling the market of the project if they are wise enough on how to get the good market of the project then the project is successful making the price also to pump. There are many reasons but these I stated here is the major reasons.

DIA is a token with good demands, you can see its listed on major exchanges and millions of daily volume. The reaosn why its dumped was because Sept 18 was the date where bounty tokens was supposed to be distributed. The greedy traders dumped in anticipation that bounty hunters will dump.

The distribution was postponed though.  They were tricked by the team lol

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I'm starting with DIA. It is listed on top exchanges, has good partnership, the team isn't relenting and its price still drops drastically. So, I put up the question to learn with the trend on what actually thrives the price of a token/coin?
I don’t think it’s just one thing that makes the price of a token to increase, there are lots of things that will actually contribute to that. Not aware of the token you’re talking about, but new tokens tends to go down after they are launched, kind of like a correction.

The early investors are fond of emptying their bags once the token goes live, and that will cause the market price to drop drastically, despite that they have a really good team. It’s then up to the team to continue with their hard work and promote the token and make it climb back up again, and that’s not going to happen in a day , it will take time.
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To be honest, it lies somewhere between good fundamentals , Technical Analysis , all the way upto pumpamentals. Sometimes, it needs to be a pure shitcoin ponzi.  Wink
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September 26, 2020, 07:21:53 PM
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Marketing is really a big deal but it is not enough at all. I remember there was a coin waaaaaay back in the day that was like "time" or whatever, basically it suppose to be tied to hours of work and not money at all, which meant how much it worth in dollars would change depending on the person, but you worked for one hour and got that 1 token and you could spend it on one hour of someone else, it allowed people to decide on the price themselves.

They marketed it so much that from google to youtube to facebook to instagram to bitcointalk to any other place you could ever imagine wherever I went they were there. What happened? They failed, they are nowhere to be found now, they did marketing amazingly but the idea was so bad that people didn't even use it so it went down.
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September 28, 2020, 06:51:03 PM
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Not all projects listed on Binance will be pumped, some projects are even dumped when listing on the Binance market.

Coins will only be pumped when there is news that it will be listed on Binance in a few days, this is a pre-pump before listing and this will be very dangerous, because there will be a lot of FOMO and prices will soar, but when it is listed on Binance the price will be destroyed and at the dump.

Binance is a large exchange that is able to give hope to altcoins that can be listed on it.
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Not all projects listed on Binance will be pumped, some projects are even dumped when listing on the Binance market.

Coins will only be pumped when there is news that it will be listed on Binance in a few days, this is a pre-pump before listing and this will be very dangerous, because there will be a lot of FOMO and prices will soar, but when it is listed on Binance the price will be destroyed and at the dump.

Binance is a large exchange that is able to give hope to altcoins that can be listed on it.
There's always that kind of perception from time to time when some alts would really be tended to be listed on Binance and when the news is up then tendency of pump is likely to happen.

It matters on the demand though because not all the times it will just dump when gets listed on Binance and come to think that some do even pump out even more when Fomo is there.
Yes, its really dangerous to dive in but for seeking out some profits then you would really need to risk or gamble.
It all varies with the projects potential even though it might dumped its price but eventually it do really had the chance to recover since its listed on one of the best or current
exchange in the market today.

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To be honest, it lies somewhere between good fundamentals , Technical Analysis , all the way upto pumpamentals. Sometimes, it needs to be a pure shitcoin ponzi.  Wink
There is nothing to do with the Ponzi scheme. Is a sort of ads asking for investment and doubling your money after investing, an old scammed trick that anyone is aware of. But just wondering also that many people have been fooled into this thing, seeing it surge high due to market manipulation by themselves. This is the case most happening and it makes a reason also that people are worried about investing in new projects.



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September 29, 2020, 01:29:58 AM
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If truly I said their shouldn't be pump and dump in the market. Its just caused negative impact on the market. And its not happened because of development of project because most of the time pump is created by exchange owner. Binance is one of those exchanges. They can list any shit coin and makes 1000 percent pump. They took profit and their customer got stuck buying at high. This should stop.
Not everything you say is true, some exchanges might do that, they sell coins so the prices of coins listed there fall very deep,
but binance is different, because binance has high liquidity so that the price there is purely from market demand,
so the pump or dump that occurs there is not Binance's fault.
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I'm starting with DIA. It is listed on top exchanges, has good partnership, the team isn't relenting and its price still drops drastically. So, I put up the question to learn with the trend on what actually thrives the price of a token/coin?
Moment could make some coin or token could pump to higher price, each token have their moment it self when lost their moment for party never try to buy back although have lower price, first time listing for DIA have good price after success have higher price than ICO, few days DIA listed on bigger exchange from Poloniex, Kucoin, Binance and many other exchange market and give impact with higher price, but now their moment have ended and never could back to good position price again after raising up and going down never have second chance for some coin back to higher price again, developer have reached much profit and not care what happen next with their coin.

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There's always that kind of perception from time to time when some alts would really be tended to be listed on Binance and when the news is up then tendency of pump is likely to happen.

It matters on the demand though because not all the times it will just dump when gets listed on Binance and come to think that some do even pump out even more when Fomo is there.
Yes, its really dangerous to dive in but for seeking out some profits then you would really need to risk or gamble.
It all varies with the projects potential even though it might dumped its price but eventually it do really had the chance to recover since its listed on one of the best or current
exchange in the market today.
In fact, I often see it happening on Binance when there is news that the altcoin will be listed on the Binance exchange so the pump is ready somewhere the demand on Binance increases after the first listing if the FOMO problem is clear there is one big exchange where a lot of panic occurs.

I am not surprised if I take a lot of profit on Binance such as UNI coins which are pumped almost 1000% which means that it is a very strong sign that if altcoins enter Binance it will tend to be more resilient in the market and prices are quite stable even though that is not possible either.

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I'm starting with DIA. It is listed on top exchanges, has good partnership, the team isn't relenting and its price still drops drastically. So, I put up the question to learn with the trend on what actually thrives the price of a token/coin?
DIA started dropping in price a few days prior the scheduled date for bounty distribution. That was expected as early investors normally will take profit ahead of time in any project. However, a funny thing happened later and price dropped further drastically as soon as the team announced its postponement date for the distribution of bounty rewards to hunters after the successful completion of the bounty. You know, reneging on earlier promise and shifting the distribution date to two more weeks, to October 2nd raised a lot of suspicion with investors and those who wanted to hold had a change of mind and joined the dumping frenzy. Besides, now that DIA has been fingered as one of the cryptos affected by that Kucoin hack with hackers successfully selling off around $600,000 worth of DIA (more are still in the hands of the hackers), it is yet to be seen the level of damage this hack will cause DIA. It's likely to crash more by my calculation.

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In fact the token pump has an impact on the market both positively and negatively pumps reduce the demand of the dump market as all the traders lean towards the market just as the demand of the market makes the house at a high rate. Really dia tokens are much better i also started working on it when it first had a higher value but now that the market has dumped a lot you have to be prepared on both sides.
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September 29, 2020, 12:27:10 PM
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What make a token pump or dump depends on some factors,  firstly it there is increased demand such a token will pump, the team behind such projects how active are they engaging with the community, the community support for such a project is very important add up with some few factors if are on place even a shittoken can sell for thousands of dollars.

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September 29, 2020, 01:38:56 PM
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In fact the token pump has an impact on the market both positively and negatively pumps reduce the demand of the dump market as all the traders lean towards the market just as the demand of the market makes the house at a high rate. Really dia tokens are much better i also started working on it when it first had a higher value but now that the market has dumped a lot you have to be prepared on both sides.
There are some factors like if the project have upcoming events which result to increase of demand of the certain token. If the token is going to be listed in good exchange sites. Token can be pump if the other top cryptos will also be pump which could affects them. If the token have good to trade on and too much traders have significant reason to trade them. If token have good project teams and trend going over the internet.

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September 29, 2020, 07:13:00 PM
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I'm starting with DIA. It is listed on top exchanges, has good partnership, the team isn't relenting and its price still drops drastically. So, I put up the question to learn with the trend on what actually thrives the price of a token/coin?
News like listing in some big exchange such as Binance and Kraken. New project feature can also be a factor in pumping a coin. Sometimes whales can also be a factor for manipulating the market so the coin would pump. There are different factors that would make the crypto pump. In DIA, even if its listed in top exchanges and has good partnership, dump is inevitable if the coin's price is higher than ICO price after listing. Investors would not wait too long if they already profited, they will immediately sell their tokens..  Pretty sure that it would go back up in few months.

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That would depends from a lots factor :
1. Demand > Supply
2. Influencer
3. Good crypto news
4. Trend/Hype
5. Bitcoin price pump, etc.


Certainly those are the factors that really affects why a certain experiences not just pumps but also dumps for all those factors can also be affected by other external factors which can affect the overall pricing of that token of course. Considering those factors stated above can also help a trader know and be familiarize on certain price behavior a certain token possesses to be able to help him decide the entry and exit points to gain profit. Being listed on an excellent and reputable exchange is also a one factor people are looking up into before getting engage into a certain token which makes it hype up the token where the other factors stated above aside from Bitcoin price pump (because it has its own price behavior that can affect others if that coin relies on its price) follows that will cause the pump of the token.

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September 30, 2020, 08:03:34 AM
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It's very simple: to increase the price of a coin, you must buy it. And the reasons that should make you buy a coin can be very different. Let's say you could read the news about a new partnership, thanks to which the project reaches a new level. This will certainly attract attention to such a coin and its price will start to grow due to purchases.

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There's always that kind of perception from time to time when some alts would really be tended to be listed on Binance and when the news is up then tendency of pump is likely to happen.

It matters on the demand though because not all the times it will just dump when gets listed on Binance and come to think that some do even pump out even more when Fomo is there.
Yes, its really dangerous to dive in but for seeking out some profits then you would really need to risk or gamble.
It all varies with the projects potential even though it might dumped its price but eventually it do really had the chance to recover since its listed on one of the best or current
exchange in the market today.
The chance to recover will occur when FOMO is over and the project is really good and then continues to be developed. it will take some time to recover. As a trader I will start buying it when the correction has started and it is an opportunity to get a cheaper price.

However, there are some really good projects that continue to be pumped and exceed the presale price such as the UNI Token which is hype but currently a little faded but still holding on.

Being listed on one of the best exchanges in the world is a loyal desire of the project, this will be good news that will support the sustainability of project development.
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I'm starting with DIA. It is listed on top exchanges, has good partnership, the team isn't relenting and its price still drops drastically. So, I put up the question to learn with the trend on what actually thrives the price of a token/coin?
Pump and dump is really in cryptocurrencies and I have seeing some of the best projects below unbelievable price because of dumping! It is a business for those that really can bear lose. Maybe when it get measured the price will be relatively stable.
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A good news or announcement about a token can make a token pump . Suppose If Mark Zuckerberg announce that he is going to buy bitcoin ,ethereum or any coin ,then that token is must going to pump.
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The token pump doubles the market's demand every trader seeks a good currency to make a profit. If a well-known person or a big businessman invests then the price of that currency increases a lot and it goes well in the market. But in this case the companies that will manage these tokens have to be good. Ethereum and Bitcoin are very good currencies that will pump the market from the very beginning.
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I'm starting with DIA. It is listed on top exchanges, has good partnership, the team isn't relenting and its price still drops drastically. So, I put up the question to learn with the trend on what actually thrives the price of a token/coin?
Looks like you are waiting for the token you have on the pump. There are many things that make the token price pumped, but it only happens temporarily, sometimes even briefly, you just need to continue to monitor every news about the token you have and also set the price with the target you want.

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Influencers are not really that big of a deal in crypto which is something I really love, in here there is no famous person that would be really cared about.

Tons of people come out and talk about the price of bitcoin and which direction it will go and it creates no buzz at all, in real life if warren buffet came out and said that he is buying this certain stock because it is a great company, the moment he says that the price of that stock will skyrocket to heaven, but here even Erik Vorhees can come out and say that bitcoin is amazing (which he says) and we still do not care about it. That is how all of this is built, being decentralized not only in price and ruling but also attention and fame as well, I have as much power as any famous person in crypto world as a regular citizen.

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October 04, 2020, 06:18:36 AM
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So it must be a coin which is months old, people don't really care about just another coin because it is not going to get mich attention from investors and traders.So what is actually needed to make that coin to bump again is just need a big manipulation from a whale this will get the drastic change in the short time candle then surely more people will start buying it.
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That would depends from a lots factor :
1. Demand > Supply
2. Influencer
3. Good crypto news
4. Trend/Hype
5. Bitcoin price pump, etc.

AFAIK DIA is a new DeFi token, that's why the price reach new ATH on August (DeFi hype). Bad news on DeFi token (YAM crash, Sushi crash) and Bitcoin is dumped probably the reason. Because most of altcoin will always following the Bitcoin price as the mother of cryptocurrency.



I will for now rule out No. 1 - the demand and supply reason,  I mean let's be honest which among the many project we have currently have experience a price pump base on demand! Especially when their so-called product is not ready and accessible by many,   hence No. 2 - 5 seem to be the major reason, while 4 / 5 plays a very strong role in every price pump of any project,
We already know what happens in most cases when btc pumps although there are few exceptions because sometimes a btc pump also result to alts bleeding (but not usually in most cases)
So I would agree that good crypto news (like major partnership), hype/trend (like the Defi hype)  a btc price pump (in most cases) and 'artificial price pump' (from the project team)  are the most reason why a price of any token pumps.

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Most depends on new partnership, token burn and miannet launch if that has not already occurred. Listing on new exchange always attract new buyers as that will provide another liquidity.
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Actually token are depending the price of bitcoin. Besides when supply is higher than demand, then price goes to down. We shouldn't follow the trend/hype.

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Actually token are depending the price of bitcoin. Besides when supply is higher than demand, then price goes to down. We shouldn't follow the trend/hype.
Yes bitcoin can affect the price of other altcoins as it is the crypto being used by the market. If the bitcoin's price is bearish other coins will definitely follow.

why shouldn't we follow the trend? shouldn't we exploit the trend so we can earn more? Trend following is one of the effective strategy when it comes to trading.

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I'm starting with DIA. It is listed on top exchanges, has good partnership, the team isn't relenting and its price still drops drastically. So, I put up the question to learn with the trend on what actually thrives the price of a token/coin?
In simple words, increase in demand for the tokens is the only thing that can increase the value of the coins and while it is not easy but you can always start new updates on the coin like Tron always has something new with them going on like they recently introduced the sun token which gave a boost to the price of TRX I believe and similarly the more work the project has to show to its users the more hype and hence the better price.

Also there should be some value for the coin, for instance Binance coin is so effective and has market demand because it reduces fees for its users on the exchange and hence people always want to hold some coins. I haven't researched much about DIA but you should always check their ongoing projects and progress to track their value in future.

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I'm starting with DIA. It is listed on top exchanges, has good partnership, the team isn't relenting and its price still drops drastically. So, I put up the question to learn with the trend on what actually thrives the price of a token/coin?
In simple words, increase in demand for the tokens is the only thing that can increase the value of the coins and while it is not easy but you can always start new updates on the coin like Tron always has something new with them going on like they recently introduced the sun token which gave a boost to the price of TRX I believe and similarly the more work the project has to show to its users the more hype and hence the better price.

Also there should be some value for the coin, for instance Binance coin is so effective and has market demand because it reduces fees for its users on the exchange and hence people always want to hold some coins. I haven't researched much about DIA but you should always check their ongoing projects and progress to track their value in future.
I am glad you understand that increase in demand is what lead to the increase in price of crypto in the market which make all the characteristics you said to only  partially make token/coin gain some slightly surge in price whoch wont last long and thats because people buy the idea. However, I will advise you to learn from Defi which gives investors the chance of making profit and thats the same strategy used for BNB.
With that been said, the strategy use to make token pump is either the use of a staking/reward strategy cause 90% of all investors are after profit or using the buying of liquidity.


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October 04, 2020, 09:07:03 PM
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Actually token are depending the price of bitcoin. Besides when supply is higher than demand, then price goes to down. We shouldn't follow the trend/hype.
Yes bitcoin can affect the price of other altcoins as it is the crypto being used by the market. If the bitcoin's price is bearish other coins will definitely follow.

why shouldn't we follow the trend? shouldn't we exploit the trend so we can earn more? Trend following is one of the effective strategy when it comes to trading.

I am saying this as my own experience but I don't think that altcoin follows the price of bitcoin nowadays. There is time that bitcoin has noticeable price movements but altcoin reacts opposite. In the past few years, every bitcoin price movement is followed by altcoins price movements but it changed over time and it's somehow hard to predict if altcoin will accumulate the trend of bitcoin.
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October 04, 2020, 09:38:15 PM
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So it must be a coin which is months old, people don't really care about just another coin because it is not going to get mich attention from investors and traders.So what is actually needed to make that coin to bump again is just need a big manipulation from a whale this will get the drastic change in the short time candle then surely more people will start buying it.
Well, if the token will pump up too much high it is clearly a manipulation of the price. There are various ways of marketing strategy just to increase the value of the token, even do of course it is based on the demand and supply theory it is also has a strong foundation of investors so that token will also have a value in the market. But for me, --the one factor that could be change token price and have a reaction towards market is the usage of ecosystem and how active the dev, and the team.









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October 04, 2020, 09:46:13 PM
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Actually token are depending the price of bitcoin. Besides when supply is higher than demand, then price goes to down. We shouldn't follow the trend/hype.
Yes bitcoin can affect the price of other altcoins as it is the crypto being used by the market. If the bitcoin's price is bearish other coins will definitely follow.

why shouldn't we follow the trend? shouldn't we exploit the trend so we can earn more? Trend following is one of the effective strategy when it comes to trading.

I am saying this as my own experience but I don't think that altcoin follows the price of bitcoin nowadays. There is time that bitcoin has noticeable price movements but altcoin reacts opposite. In the past few years, every bitcoin price movement is followed by altcoins price movements but it changed over time and it's somehow hard to predict if altcoin will accumulate the trend of bitcoin.
Even in the past where Bitcoin and Altcoin prices doesnt really correlate from time to time or shall we say it can really go into opposite way to each other but we do had the impression

that alt prices do rise when bitcoins price or value goes up.It do drag along with it most of the coins would be on green but depending on the market condition yet there are instances that

it do really just move alone without tagging alts on the back and this is what makes this market so unpredictable.Lots of factors that do affect for a token to pump which had been
mentioned earlier.

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October 04, 2020, 11:17:00 PM
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Simply creates a hype like ... Nike powered by vechain will be launched, all the products will now integrated with vechain technology, source by -your popular media- and so on. People will look into it and verified it was legit then the market will drive to a bull run by itself.

It happens several times and once it got hyped to go up in price , hard to stop it. I remember vechain moved up from 0.002 to 0.02 real quick within a month because of this hype.

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October 05, 2020, 03:20:09 PM
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It's very simple: to increase the price of a coin, you must buy it. And the reasons that should make you buy a coin can be very different. Let's say you could read the news about a new partnership, thanks to which the project reaches a new level. This will certainly attract attention to such a coin and its price will start to grow due to purchases.
Yes and staking profits is another reason why people buy particular coins but the mechanism must be sustainable because it is not easy to provide staking values for long term is the plans are not clear from the development team and what happened with sushi swap we all know how quickly they folded after a mistake by their owner.

To get the value of the coin higher you must work towards making your coin more valuable that might be as small as offering people some services via chap rates by your coins or you can make a exclusive casino that accepts only your coins and works at zero edge or something like that which attracts users and hence the demand of coins.
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October 06, 2020, 11:49:40 PM
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That would depends from a lots factor :
1. Demand > Supply
2. Influencer
3. Good crypto news
4. Trend/Hype
5. Bitcoin price pump, etc.

AFAIK DIA is a new DeFi token, that's why the price reach new ATH on August (DeFi hype). Bad news on DeFi token (YAM crash, Sushi crash) and Bitcoin is dumped probably the reason. Because most of altcoin will always following the Bitcoin price as the mother of cryptocurrency.

Those mentioned are really the ones that are needed to be considered as factors why a certain coin do experience pumps and dumps in the market because all of those make affection on how does the prices behave and have an impact whether the price will go up or down. Bitcoin price pump could be a factor if the price of that certain coin is based on the Bitcoin price. The other four mentioned factors all come at once starting of from the project where the coin originated which makes it essential factors on how the price changes talking about a certain coin.



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October 09, 2020, 11:38:00 AM
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Honestly there is this viral status in life with basically every single product that we can't really comprehend how they become.

As you all know there are challenges on social media that nobody even sees, and there are ones become a social status symbol type of huge hype as well, we do not know why one is picked and the other is ignored. Same with products, you do marketing and suddenly you get viral and your website can't handle all the customers coming your way let alone your product number that was manufactured, these are all things that happen in marketing, but we all know most places do not have that much attention from customers.

So, what makes a thing viral? We may never know the answer to that, but same goes for crypto, there are thousands of coin people shill, but suddenly one of them becomes a huge hype around crypto world with zero reason for it to be that much hyped over others.
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October 11, 2020, 02:23:25 PM
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Actually token are depending the price of bitcoin. Besides when supply is higher than demand, then price goes to down. We shouldn't follow the trend/hype.
Yes bitcoin can affect the price of other altcoins as it is the crypto being used by the market. If the bitcoin's price is bearish other coins will definitely follow.

why shouldn't we follow the trend? shouldn't we exploit the trend so we can earn more? Trend following is one of the effective strategy when it comes to trading.

I am saying this as my own experience but I don't think that altcoin follows the price of bitcoin nowadays. There is time that bitcoin has noticeable price movements but altcoin reacts opposite. In the past few years, every bitcoin price movement is followed by altcoins price movements but it changed over time and it's somehow hard to predict if altcoin will accumulate the trend of bitcoin.
Even in the past where Bitcoin and Altcoin prices doesnt really correlate from time to time or shall we say it can really go into opposite way to each other but we do had the impression

that alt prices do rise when bitcoins price or value goes up.It do drag along with it most of the coins would be on green but depending on the market condition yet there are instances that

it do really just move alone without tagging alts on the back and this is what makes this market so unpredictable.Lots of factors that do affect for a token to pump which had been
mentioned earlier.
I see. Time has changed. I have this impression when I saw how the market moves last 2017. It might be different now.

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October 11, 2020, 04:56:43 PM
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Yes and staking profits is another reason why people buy particular coins but the mechanism must be sustainable because it is not easy to provide staking values for long term is the plans are not clear from the development team and what happened with sushi swap we all know how quickly they folded after a mistake by their owner.

To get the value of the coin higher you must work towards making your coin more valuable that might be as small as offering people some services via chap rates by your coins or you can make a exclusive casino that accepts only your coins and works at zero edge or something like that which attracts users and hence the demand of coins.

Staking by itself doesn't make a token valuable. There was a hype on all those PoS tokens from the beginning of 2019 but most of them are already dead or trading so low that nobody even cares.

Do you even remember about coins like BTK or Bitbay at this point? They were popular a year ago but now it's game over for them. Don't think that you can make money on PoS coins just because you bought a lot of them.
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October 11, 2020, 11:36:11 PM
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The reasons why the token are pumping it's because there is a lot of investors or buying of the token so the price is rising but because they are invested they see the potentiality of the up but if the team or developer of token or even a coin did not make update create a something new that become good of was is their created because mostly the developer are lazy after listing to the exchange they did not do something so the price is drops.
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October 12, 2020, 03:36:05 AM
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The pump of any coin is generally done by the strength of the community and its marketing skills

Another project which i have found of this type is going to launch on Uniswap soon

Thier discord channel is getting too much attention before the airdrops and presales

Project: Game of Presidents, GOP Coin

Discord: https://discord.gg/UxQkbA4  join it  before its too late

Basically a kind of game or more precisely Voting project
400 ETH is the amount in presale and there is airdrop also

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October 12, 2020, 04:57:35 AM
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The token pump is highly dependent on supply and demand, but the current trend is a factor in the hype for some pump tokens.
And there are many other factors that make tokens pump. Such as influencers, news, promotions and so on. What is certain is
that if we do research and analysis properly, we can predict the price movements of tokens. So when the price of tokens will be
pumped, we can predict it.

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October 12, 2020, 11:32:20 AM
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The only reason why token pump is the investors, and the token can only invested by millions of investors or buyers if there are good feedbacks that comes from its users or a good team behind that token, products, transparency, advertiser or promoter can also  convince investors to buy the token and the token may pump after getting trust from the crypro feild.

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October 12, 2020, 02:52:08 PM
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The token pump is highly dependent on supply and demand, but the current trend is a factor in the hype for some pump tokens.
And there are many other factors that make tokens pump. Such as influencers, news, promotions and so on. What is certain is
that if we do research and analysis properly, we can predict the price movements of tokens. So when the price of tokens will be
pumped, we can predict it.

Which is a true statement, all of the pumping and dumping of values of any cryptocurrencies were all depend upon the supply and demand of each crypto. But we can't predict the next pumping of prices or even the next dumping of it since i believe that cryptocurrencies were volatile and unpredictable. Whales of cryptocurrencies may also affect the price movement of bitcoin or any kind of cryptos.

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October 12, 2020, 02:59:58 PM
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I'm starting with DIA. It is listed on top exchanges, has good partnership, the team isn't relenting and its price still drops drastically. So, I put up the question to learn with the trend on what actually thrives the price of a token/coin?
Good partnership, but is the coin being traded actively?
There are many cases in which a coin fails you know and that's quite common actually.
The supply and demand from basic economics is what contributes to the price of the token or coin, OP.
Consider the hype as well, but hype always dries.
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October 13, 2020, 04:47:42 AM
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The only reason why token pump is the investors, and the token can only invested by millions of investors or buyers if there are good feedbacks that comes from its users or a good team behind that token, products, transparency, advertiser or promoter can also  convince investors to buy the token and the token may pump after getting trust from the crypro feild.
Investors can only help the coin initially because the most important thing that brings up the price for any coin that is listed on market is the news around the coin and the activeness from the developer team. A team which gives constant update to it's users is more likely to retain their investors in long term and also cause pump as they move along. A prime example is Ethereum itself which started small and maintained a stable price for long time and kept getting pumped along the way.

There can be temporary paid pumps as well at times for certain coins as the team will buy their own coin from the exchange to create a fuss about their coins in the market and then once people are ready to buy the coin they will just dump all they hold. This is a common practice also called as pump and dump in the altcoin market and trading sphere.

Maybe you want to read an article like this - https://medium.com/@coinandcrypto/how-to-profit-from-a-cryptocurrency-pump-and-dump-a8d4a1622df8

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October 14, 2020, 07:02:36 PM
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The token pump is highly dependent on supply and demand, but the current trend is a factor in the hype for some pump tokens.
And there are many other factors that make tokens pump. Such as influencers, news, promotions and so on. What is certain is
that if we do research and analysis properly, we can predict the price movements of tokens. So when the price of tokens will be
pumped, we can predict it.
Yeah like the big John Mcfee used to pump fake projects but is now arrested. There are many reasons for a pump in the price for small altcoins like you said hype is one of them and a significant one because often teams are able to hire a marketing team that creates FOMO among investors and then as the price gets hiked they will sell off the coins and run away.

While for solid coins like ETH there are pumps happening when there is solid news about something new being built like how the Defi created a big news in the market and the price for ethereum was hiked if I am not wrong because I don't follow the prices so closely all the time. Similarly Tron always have some kind of developments going which makes it pump often.

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October 14, 2020, 07:09:11 PM
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First of all 'create some hype' then community trust, good vision and mission about project,  like someone said 'technology doesn't matter'  yes he is right 1
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