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September 30, 2020, 09:20:50 PM |
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I've got my main private key encrypted and split across three metal wallets. Only I know the cipher and the order to unlock it.
I have three cryptosteels that I got free from BRD wallet, and I use them to store my private key.
Realistically it's probably a bit overkill, but I got them for free and couldn't resell them (I tried) so I just kept them.
I think you might be served well by just buying a laser etched piece of card from one the myriad places that do laser etching. You could encrypt it first and store the cipher on the card too.
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September 30, 2020, 09:48:11 PM |
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sounds high risk but I save my seed in Gmail... I make a new notepad then send the seed to my Gmail storage, until now it's still safe I dare to do this because I already feel the security level of Gmail is very high as long as we are able to maintain the Gmail account and don't use that Gmail carelessly.
^ No, please don't. Emails through online are easy to compromise, they are not good or don't have the capability to keep any valuable information. Once the hacker can access your phone and easily open any of your files that have your seed stored, that is very risky. Encrypt on metal is the appropriate way of having security what even the national disaster come. You can find any way of transferring there. However, extra vigilant will keep you put in a good condition.
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September 30, 2020, 10:02:13 PM |
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I've got my main private key encrypted and split across three metal wallets. Only I know the cipher and the order to unlock it.
I have three cryptosteels that I got free from BRD wallet, and I use them to store my private key.
Realistically it's probably a bit overkill, but I got them for free and couldn't resell them (I tried) so I just kept them.
I think you might be served well by just buying a laser etched piece of card from one the myriad places that do laser etching. You could encrypt it first and store the cipher on the card too.
Its better to be overkill rather than losing all of your coins just because you do store it on a way which is very less secure compared into this metal wallets. I might consider on transferring my keys later on even though im not holding that much but this is way much more better than storing up your coins into your email or cloud storage which do still have the tendency to be hacked or bypassed. For now ive been storing my seeds on several flashdrives which i do kept on different parts of the house , its been divided on 3.
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September 30, 2020, 10:05:09 PM |
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I'm sure everyone has a dedicated place to store seeds to be safe, I also recommend storing seeds in multiple places. So that if something happens to one of the seed stores, there is another backup. So we can still access our wallets. I like the traditional way of storing seeds, usually writing the seeds on paper. Then I made 2-3 pieces, to be safer in case something bad happens.
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October 01, 2020, 12:00:40 AM |
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Then i no longer used electrum. I used a nano ledger s and store coins there. But I did not type in my nano ledger seed in lastpass and thus did not store that in gmail/dropbox. But again if i did... well a hacker would need to first hack into my gmail/dropbox... then get into the lastpass or keepass etc. Wouldn't that be very hard? And imagine you encrypt lastpass as well. Wouldn't that be way too hard?
You need to understand that, the lastpass or keepass are operate by third parties and saving of private keys or seeds in an email is the most vulnerable part. However, I will advise you to know off hand the last 5 words in your seed while you save the rest on flash, papper and bank vault. But for total secure of your seed or private youll need to order for a Quadrat metal bitcoin seed/private keys storage which has proven grade A through all series (fire etc) of test.
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October 01, 2020, 12:03:18 AM |
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it sounds cool, I need to google it. I don't know what is steganography. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) could you please share with us how to do it? I just want to create an example of what is steganography and how is works for storing your seed (IMO). What you need is File image and seed text. 1. example image below are on folder had picture.jpg and seed.txt 2. then archiving both to archived.zip 3. let's go to command prompt (cmd), cd folder and writecopy /b picture.jpg+archived.zip screet.jpg 4. as you can see new file name "secret" .jpg where that file had 2 hidden file picture and seed![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.postimg.cc%2FRVkvSrTh%2F3.jpg&t=665&c=TWyLac4IwvS-vA)
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October 01, 2020, 02:41:40 AM |
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I am using one of my USB stick as a place to store the wallet seeds and it is enough for me because I am not having in millions in my wallet but for someone who is having huge value portfolio need to find better kind of security for their seeds like biometric access or something like that.
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October 01, 2020, 09:01:11 AM |
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Carve it into a rock out in the bush, just don't forget the co-ordinates.
Joking. Seedplate or Cryptosteel work well
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October 01, 2020, 03:05:22 PM |
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I know it's kinda risky but at the moment it's the best I can do, writing it down on a paper would have been great, but sometimes unplanned events could just happen and you forget where you kept the paper or maybe a fire incident occurs and the paper will get burnt alongside your properties, that's the more reason why I prefer storing my seeds online, because online its easily accessible and no such thing as fire incedent can make you lose your seed.
What's the difference of hacking and fire incident? Both are almost the same in terms of tragedy they may often happen but it might happen to you one day. Don't get too comfortable of trusting the internet when it comes to your funds, a lot of people will be after you if they know you have a bunch of money. That's why anonymity and security are the best way to deal with the bad guys. You may be carelessly putting it on the internet but one day you might need to change your style of handling security.
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October 01, 2020, 04:35:20 PM |
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Honestly, I have saved the seeds of my wallet, i.e. private keys, in my Facebook Messenger. And I saved some wallet seeds in the telegram. And as a backup, I have written all my seeds in my diary so that if there is any problem online, my seeds are fine offline.
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October 01, 2020, 05:32:49 PM |
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I'm sure everyone has a dedicated place to store seeds to be safe, I also recommend storing seeds in multiple places. So that if something happens to one of the seed stores, there is another backup. So we can still access our wallets. I like the traditional way of storing seeds, usually writing the seeds on paper. Then I made 2-3 pieces, to be safer in case something bad happens.
Wallet seeds are real problem now for mostly digital wallets. Note that their is no 100% safest place to secure seeds online. Once a time it was just a normal registration forms & if we forgot password it was easy to recover. But wallet seeds cannot be recoverable. I generally take screenshots & save in my phone & save in Google drive. And I also use gmail draft as a second choice.
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October 01, 2020, 06:10:21 PM |
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If someone knows you posted it here, maybe he will go to your library and searching this book. I don't know why are you proofing your secret in the public area? you must move it now. Nobody knows that I am a member of this forum. I rely on my account being completely anonymous but thank you for your warning. I have changed where I keep my seeds, however will no longer share where they exactly are. ![Embarrassed](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/embarrassed.gif)
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October 01, 2020, 06:47:33 PM |
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The idea is pretty interesting as I am also thinking on how I can safeguard my seed because if I am going to store it online, I am pretty sure that it is very vulnerable to the hackers.
Putting a password is a good idea but what I like is to use both in order to get a stronger security like I will divide the seed in three parts and all the parts have it's own password also. I will try this one as right now I am only storing my seed in a sheet of paper but I am worried if in case it will be lost.
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October 01, 2020, 06:53:13 PM |
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I saw this for the first time and I believe this is more unique than the way I save it on Google Drive where the file contains the private key, I compress it into a zip then I add a file size of 100 MB to disguise that this is a private key that usually small size. besides on google drive, I also save it on a special flash drive that I save in the place most humans pass through, but it doesn't occur to me to save something important in that place. so they missed the things I couldn't possibly miss
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October 01, 2020, 07:14:40 PM |
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Hackers and criminally minded folks are seriously messing with our lives and making the Internet look scary a place. I have read countless agony stories of hodlers who couldn't trace back the passwords/private keys to their wallets after they wrote them out and tucked safely somewhere. They soon forgot where they hid them. It's not even enough hiding these stuff if after several years we then discover we actually succeeded in hiding them from ourselves, and not the public. It's a paradox, actually. For me, I try to make it very simple. I write out my passwords (and not the PKey) on a booklet. Then tie my wallet to a 2FA and my email. So, if a hacker gets access to one they won't get access to either of my 2FA or email.
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I find it safest to write down my private keys or passwords and I've been doing this since the beginning of my online entry. Although I should have kept a copy somewhere else, I haven't done it yet. From everyone's opinion here I understand that I have to make a copy now. I have to laminate this copy and leave it somewhere else.
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I store mine in a fireproof safe that's bolted to the floor. Basically there's no way it can be damaged or stolen, unless someone has the time to get an angle grinder and just cut the thing in half. Me and my both neighbors from each side have cameras facing the road, so there's no way someone could just walk in and steal everything. In most neighbourhoods a camera and a dog is enough to keep burglars away, unless you have a very flashy house with expensive cars on the driveway.
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October 02, 2020, 02:08:03 PM |
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To save the seeds, I printed them out on paper and made a few copies. I kept one copy in the personal vault of the office, one copy at home, another copy locked in an iron chest. For personal use, I keep the seeds in a specific pendrive, to prevent the file from being deleted, I put the seeds in the pendrive and locked it with password by the help of antivirus. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Exactly this is one of the best idea to keep the seed in secured. I did follow the same idea and i never face any trouble still and hope my account will be secured for all the time.
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October 02, 2020, 02:34:34 PM |
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Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies are very valuable asset and that is why asset security need to be considered especially when it comes to private key and seed. Although I have never kept many of my crypto asset in the wallet, but as long as I actively use the wallet, security is mandatory. So far I have taken several steps to secure the private key and seed of a wallet address that I own and that on USB as well as on a piece of paper. I know these two step are still risky, but I can still accept the risk because the amount of asset I have is not too much.
I am sure that anyone with a lot of asset in the wallet is sure to take very strong precaution to keep the asset safe and reasonable. But for those who don't have many asset, I think super strong security doesn't need to be urgent.
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October 02, 2020, 02:54:34 PM |
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I stored all my seed in hardware wallet which is very secure for me. I started using hardware wallet since i was told that scammer can scam people seed in any how wallet, but it hard for them to have access to hardware wallet which is good for long term saving and all your seed is safe if only you would not exposed you private details to public. In hardware you are in control of how your assets are stored and where they are kept. Also good for holding a huge amount of seeds.
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