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October 01, 2020, 09:46:03 AM
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he problem with new video cards is that they do not keep the factory overclocking and crash in games and software, where the video processor frequency is higher than 2000 MHz.

The reason is the wrong line-up of filter capacitors that do not hold high frequencies. Now we have found out
that you need to use a combined circuit (use multiple types of capacitors) for excellent performance.

EVGA and Founders Edition use a combined setup.
The marriage was not recognized in Nvidia, but the forums recommend not to increase the frequencies, but to underestimate with the help of utilities

Bad decision, better not to buy first releases
ZOTAC GAMING GeForce RTX 3080 Trinity
https://www.zotac.com/ru/product/graphics_card/zotac-gaming-geforce-rtx-3080-trinity

6 tantalum capacitors

Good decision
GeForce-RTX-3080-GAMING-TRIO-10G
https://ru.msi.com/Graphics-card/GeForce-RTX-3080-GAMING-TRIO-10G
The video card uses 5 aluminum polymer capacitors and 10 ceramic


ROG-STRIX-RTX3080-10G-GAMING
https://www.asus.com/Graphics-Cards/ROG-STRIX-RTX3080-10G-GAMING/

aluminum polymer capacitors 6 pieces

ACUS (STRIX GAMING and TUF GAMING) and MCI (GAMING-TRIO and Ventus) are already changing capacitors in new versions.

Replacement for Asus
Before replacement    After replacement


Replacement at MSI GAMING


Replacement at MSI Ventus


How did you end up solving the Nvidia problem? Easy, new drivers have been released, where the processor GPU frequency does not rise above 2000 MHz; D; D; D
But we added software optimization, so the FPS for many games has grown.

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October 01, 2020, 01:12:52 PM
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Watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMns8t4OhI0 , it explains it all.
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October 01, 2020, 02:44:30 PM
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Toms Hardware had a big article on this issue.

My take is Basically all owners with six identical caps would be best off doing an rma.

And simply say my gear crashes.

Note all the blower units direct from Nvidia.com should be mixed cap.


Here is an opinion nvidia knew the problem and still let

 msi asus gigabyte send the bad design out.

ATrue fuck you to those companies and a true fuck you to loyal buyers of that gear.

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October 02, 2020, 09:44:37 AM
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Pls read Igor's article on this issue, all other youtube videos /articles are based on his research and don't understand whats going on.

https://www.igorslab.de/en/what-real-what-can-be-investigative-within-the-crashes-and-instabilities-of-the-force-rtx-3080-andrtx-3090/
https://www.igorslab.de/en/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-und-rtx-3090-and-the-crash-why-the-capacitors-are-so-important-and-what-are-the-object-behind/
https://www.igorslab.de/en/wonder-how-invidia-the-crashes-of-the-force-rtx-3080-andrtx-3090-will-be-removed-and-still-will-be-removed-even-from-the-power-supplies-analysis/
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October 02, 2020, 04:05:25 PM
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This new hardware from nvidia gain lots of attention specially their 3090 that worth almost $2k, but I see that there's also a humor of problem about this card, well see if Claymore and Phoenix will solve this problem in their mining software.
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October 03, 2020, 01:47:39 AM
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This new hardware from nvidia gain lots of attention specially their 3090 that worth almost $2k, but I see that there's also a humor of problem about this card, well see if Claymore and Phoenix will solve this problem in their mining software.

I would be stunned if software will solve it.

Other than crippling ram speed to 1900 - 1975 or so.

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October 03, 2020, 02:03:28 AM
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Newer upcoming models from manufacturers will fix the issue..the issue on cheaping out on components LOL!
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October 03, 2020, 02:57:06 AM
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If i will get me one i will go for Gigabyte 3090 maybe !
Or does anybody already have some kind experience with this cards from Gigabyte ?

https://www.caseking.de/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-3090-eagle-oc-24g-24576-mb-gddr6x-gcgb-329.html

My favorite is this one if i decide to get me one .

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October 03, 2020, 03:21:44 AM
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If i will get me one i will go for Gigabyte 3090 maybe !
Or does anybody already have some kind experience with this cards from Gigabyte ?

https://www.caseking.de/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-3090-eagle-oc-24g-24576-mb-gddr6x-gcgb-329.html

My favorite is this one if i decide to get me one .

https://www.caseking.de/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-3090-gaming-oc-24g-24576-mb-gddr6x-gcgb-328.html

You best double check on gigabyte. They cheaped out on their 3080 caps hehe
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October 03, 2020, 05:41:20 AM
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If i will get me one i will go for Gigabyte 3090 maybe !
Or does anybody already have some kind experience with this cards from Gigabyte ?

https://www.caseking.de/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-3090-eagle-oc-24g-24576-mb-gddr6x-gcgb-329.html

My favorite is this one if i decide to get me one .

https://www.caseking.de/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-3090-gaming-oc-24g-24576-mb-gddr6x-gcgb-328.html

Gigabyte isn't the smartest choice. Check this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_1A0vifsZg

Also available in english if you prefer.
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October 03, 2020, 01:00:30 PM
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Almost every gigabyte gpu I ever owned needed to be sent back as an RMA

I don't recommend them.

It looks like the Asus may be best choice on these .

Frankly I would just wait a while before I purchase any of them.

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October 03, 2020, 03:08:20 PM
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Almost every gigabyte gpu I ever owned needed to be sent back as an RMA

I dont have any problems with my last GPU since they was coming out , i have the Gigabyte Aorus GTX 1080 Ti 11G !
Never got any problems with it on mining or on other things like gaming even in the summer when its hot.
I bought one the first when they was going on the sell if they was aviable.




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October 03, 2020, 05:06:50 PM
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Almost every gigabyte gpu I ever owned needed to be sent back as an RMA

I dont have any problems with my last GPU since they was coming out , i have the Gigabyte Aorus GTX 1080 Ti 11G !
Never got any problems with it on mining or on other things like gaming even in the summer when its hot.
I bought one the first when they was going on the sell if they was aviable.

1080 (Ti) are really great, still have plenty of them running without any problems.
2080 (Ti) are already crap. The coolers are too cheap, the cards will run too hot if you mine with them, compared to other brands. Sold them all long time ago.
3080/3090 same story, check the videos. Components are the cheapest. The cooler is crap. The power cable slot is a joke and will break if you unplug the cables frequently. The backplate is a design fail, because the right fan cant blow enough air trough the card as intended.
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October 04, 2020, 04:33:22 PM
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Almost every gigabyte gpu I ever owned needed to be sent back as an RMA

I dont have any problems with my last GPU since they was coming out , i have the Gigabyte Aorus GTX 1080 Ti 11G !
Never got any problems with it on mining or on other things like gaming even in the summer when its hot.
I bought one the first when they was going on the sell if they was aviable.

1080 (Ti) are really great, still have plenty of them running without any problems.
2080 (Ti) are already crap. The coolers are too cheap, the cards will run too hot if you mine with them, compared to other brands. Sold them all long time ago.
3080/3090 same story, check the videos. Components are the cheapest. The cooler is crap. The power cable slot is a joke and will break if you unplug the cables frequently. The backplate is a design fail, because the right fan cant blow enough air trough the card as intended.


cable slot is standard 8pin pcie for non-founders edition. so no problem there

3080 is not an "overhaul" upgrade to a miner if he..did not setup rigs with 1000w or below PSUs (lack of pcie cable, efficiency is lower by getting far away from 50% load )
 
 - you must use separate 2 pcie cable instead of 1 pcie cable(with two 8pin socket), (you can still get away with 1 pcie cable with 1080ti)

 - with more power the mining room should have enough temperature allowance (room will be hotter) and gpu spacing is good enough.

components will be fixed with new model releases. asus tuf 3080 didn't cheap out on components BTW.

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October 04, 2020, 04:36:40 PM
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he problem with new video cards is that they do not keep the factory overclocking and crash in games and software, where the video processor frequency is higher than 2000 MHz.

it was the cheap components (caps) that cannot handle those high frequencies.
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October 04, 2020, 05:58:54 PM
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last driver update nvidia fix problem by not let card boost more than 2000 MHz
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October 04, 2020, 06:31:47 PM
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components will be fixed with new model releases. asus tuf 3080 didn't cheap out on components BTW.


It's funny, $700 gpu's with $5 capacitors instead of $15 and then you rma and they say it was your fault hehe

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October 05, 2020, 07:32:24 PM
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unfortunately this is a problem that some of the new rtx have, i hope nvidia fix this as soon as possible
anyway, thank you for sharing!  Smiley

I found a video on youtube, where the game crashed while recording
he was using a 3090 oc gigabyte (skip to 9 minutes)
the gameplay was in PT-BR language
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcTZcVWRyYk

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October 07, 2020, 03:04:43 AM
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Igor's Lab was the first to make an observation (not a definitive note of blame) regarding the capacitors. Of course every tech channel wanted their clickbait videos uploaded for maximum crisis views. Hadware Unboxed had a much calmer and methodical review of the issue: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhyCdraz54s

There's always a chance the 1st iteration will bear some great abilities that the manufacturers will quickly nerf. In this case the first iteration simply had a little power delivery issue which will be fixed on next production run. Suffices to say this card was rushed to production.
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October 07, 2020, 04:05:46 AM
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Igor's Lab was the first to make an observation (not a definitive note of blame) regarding the capacitors. Of course every tech channel wanted their clickbait videos uploaded for maximum crisis views. Hadware Unboxed had a much calmer and methodical review of the issue: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhyCdraz54s

There's always a chance the 1st iteration will bear some great abilities that the manufacturers will quickly nerf. In this case the first iteration simply had a little power delivery issue which will be fixed on next production run. Suffices to say this card was rushed to production.

Nvidia should be subject to a class action lawsuit over this particular release.

It would be nice to see it happen.

Most likely that will never happen.
I simply don’t understand why nvidia has shit releases over and over and over and over again.

more of a complaint about shortages and somewhat of bad parts.

The only saving grace was I was not able to buy one ☝️ so no real loss for me.

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