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October 04, 2020, 09:46:35 AM
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What relation do you have with VIABET? Check your affiliates program, there is mention of viabet all over. Is this a simple copy paste work?
Please explain.

ViaBet is committed to responsible gaming, and is dedicated to an enjoyable and positive gaming experience for all of our players. Most of our players play for fun and entertainment, but we recognize that a small percentage of players will

Taken from your affiliates program.
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October 04, 2020, 10:08:45 AM
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What relation do you have with VIABET? Check your affiliates program, there is mention of viabet all over. Is this a simple copy paste work?
Please explain.

ViaBet is committed to responsible gaming, and is dedicated to an enjoyable and positive gaming experience for all of our players. Most of our players play for fun and entertainment, but we recognize that a small percentage of players will

Taken from your affiliates program.


This is one of the brands of our parent company. And those text are placeholders on the templates.
We are updating all the pages currently.

Thank you.

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October 04, 2020, 10:13:59 AM
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What relation do you have with VIABET? Check your affiliates program, there is mention of viabet all over. Is this a simple copy paste work?
Please explain.

ViaBet is committed to responsible gaming, and is dedicated to an enjoyable and positive gaming experience for all of our players. Most of our players play for fun and entertainment, but we recognize that a small percentage of players will

Taken from your affiliates program.


This is one of the brands of our parent company. And those text are placeholders on the templates.
We are updating all the pages currently.

Thank you.
It means Betnomi is the parent company same as primedice and its sister concern stake. Here the sister concern is viabet, so almost every gambling company holds more than one gambling site. Does the launch of sportsbook has got any special bonus on specific events like IPL or to any other league.
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October 04, 2020, 10:22:03 AM
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It means Betnomi is the parent company same as primedice and its sister concern stake. Here the sister concern is viabet, so almost every gambling company holds more than one gambling site. Does the launch of sportsbook has got any special bonus on specific events like IPL or to any other league.


We do not have any associations with primedice or stake. The viabet we are referring to is not  " viabet.io ". That is not the actual viabet we are referring to in this instance.
Yes, regarding the special promotions for IPL and other leagues, we will have a lot of promotions all the time for all major sporting events.

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October 04, 2020, 11:24:48 AM
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What relation do you have with VIABET? Check your affiliates program, there is mention of viabet all over. Is this a simple copy paste work?
Please explain.

ViaBet is committed to responsible gaming, and is dedicated to an enjoyable and positive gaming experience for all of our players. Most of our players play for fun and entertainment, but we recognize that a small percentage of players will

Taken from your affiliates program.

This is a curious concept. When you start a site, you still publish your own company data, and not that of another company - viabet - in this case. I suspect that there is more going on here and that there are several connections with existing sites. And that this site has been added as an extra income model. The association with primedice and stake may well be correct.

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October 04, 2020, 11:39:02 AM
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I also find something on their twitter. First of all, their first official account was suspended. According to Twitter because the rules were breached.
They created a new twitter account: https://twitter.com/betnomi1

If you take a closer look at the site, it has 22.000 followers, but 0 posts.
So it is obviously that they just bought this 22.000 followers from a service to pump their followers.
This is certainly not the way of dealing with a campaign. Maybe the Operator can explain how he gets 22.000 followers without even 1 post.

What happened with https://twitter.com/betnomi? The account is suspended, according to twitter.
So far things are not going smoothly. It would help if you give me transparency and honest answers.


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October 04, 2020, 11:40:08 AM
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This is a curious concept. When you start a site, you still publish your own company data, and not that of another company - viabet - in this case. I suspect that there is more going on here and that there are several connections with existing sites. And that this site has been added as an extra income model. The association with primedice and stake may well be correct.

You can speculate all you want. We have addressed this question multiple times over the last 7 months. There are no connection to any other site or whatsoever. We are an independent company and we will remain as such.
There maybe some similarity here and there with other companies. For example, using the same premade site builder templates, payment gateway providers or same/ related master gaming license holder. That's about it!
We consider master gaming license holder a parent company and all sublicense holders falls under this company. If you know anything about how gaming licenses works. Other than this, we have no other connection or relationship with any other website. We are an independent company.





I also find something on their twitter. First of all, their first official account was suspended. According to Twitter because the rules were breached.
They created a new twitter account: https://twitter.com/betnomi1

If you take a closer look at the site, it has 22.000 followers, but 0 posts.
So it is obviously that they just bought this 22.000 followers from a service to pump their followers.
This is certainly not the way of dealing with a campaign. Maybe the Operator can explain how he gets 22.000 followers without even 1 post.

What happened with https://twitter.com/betnomi? The account is suspended, according to twitter.
So far things are not going smoothly. It would help if you give me transparency and honest answers.


[img width= 400]https://i.imgur.com/elwU8Ob.jpg[/img]

We had the twitter account @betnomi in late 2018 - early 2019 which got suspended for some reason i do not remember. We then created another twitter account @betnomi1 and no. This is not a "new account" that account was created since 2019 and has been active. We had an airdrop back in 2019 and hence the massive following without any significant posts. Of course, it wasn't like there has never been any post on the account.
After we decided to rebrand our project, we hired a marketing company who cleaned up our social media foot print and will be handling all our marketing and social media related activities.

Also, we will appreciate it if you can do a little more research before you throw around stuff like this. A little look at internet archives would have answered this question. The account was pretty active in the past.

Thank you.

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October 04, 2020, 12:27:32 PM
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The betnomi platform is quite encompassing and elaborate, giving bettors a variety of games to choose from and the site is quite colorful and easy to navigate. Although, I actually hoped to see some accompanied write up upon clicking this link though, the replies from comments still offers insights. It's a good one.

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October 04, 2020, 12:53:27 PM
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Just wanted to pop in to say welcome back.

You do have to provide the required data and technically, this is not KYC. We are required to get birth of birth data to ensure minors are not gambling on our website. Country to ensure users are not access from restricted territories. As for the first name and last name, it is just for our internal risk management purposes. We do not check the provided information for validity or whatsoever.

How do you classify restricted territories? Do you designate countries like US, UK, Netherlands with laws forbidding crypto casinos from incorporating there as restricted territories, or do you designate countries where gambling is illegal as such, or both? I'd appreciate a clarification about this.

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The betnomi platform is quite encompassing and elaborate, giving bettors a variety of games to choose from and the site is quite colorful and easy to navigate. Although, I actually hoped to see some accompanied write up upon clicking this link though, the replies from comments still offers insights. It's a good one.

Thanks for your compliment. We are working on updated these links with all the necessary information's.





Just wanted to pop in to say welcome back.

You do have to provide the required data and technically, this is not KYC. We are required to get birth of birth data to ensure minors are not gambling on our website. Country to ensure users are not access from restricted territories. As for the first name and last name, it is just for our internal risk management purposes. We do not check the provided information for validity or whatsoever.

How do you classify restricted territories? Do you designate countries like US, UK, Netherlands with laws forbidding crypto casinos from incorporating there as restricted territories, or do you designate countries where gambling is illegal as such, or both? I'd appreciate a clarification about this.

Good question. These territories are jurisdictions designated by the curacao gaming commission as such. We will update our terms and conditions with a list these countries and in our FAQ's as well.
These information's should be updated within 10 days from now.

Thank you.

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October 04, 2020, 05:05:32 PM
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Some of my further questions have been already been asked by others and answered accordingly. I will leave a proper feedback on the platform when all those last bits will be in place. Of course, I am eagerly waiting for the bonus guidelines  Cool
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October 04, 2020, 05:24:22 PM
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Operator; you write all the time that pages need to be adjusted and updated and that it must be done in the coming days. Then why are you launching a site that is not yet fully functional? It is much better if everything is only online when everything is working. Now everything is missing, and that gives a bad impression. A professional company that always tests everything first, before you go online.

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October 04, 2020, 05:34:19 PM
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Just wanted to pop in to say welcome back.

You do have to provide the required data and technically, this is not KYC. We are required to get birth of birth data to ensure minors are not gambling on our website. Country to ensure users are not access from restricted territories. As for the first name and last name, it is just for our internal risk management purposes. We do not check the provided information for validity or whatsoever.

How do you classify restricted territories? Do you designate countries like US, UK, Netherlands with laws forbidding crypto casinos from incorporating there as restricted territories, or do you designate countries where gambling is illegal as such, or both? I'd appreciate a clarification about this.

The information that Betnomi presents here is incorrect. From the point of view and perspective from Curacao, every betting office is obliged to go through the KYC procedure. I don't know from what amount, but from a certain amount every company is obliged to request this documentation. Has nothing to do with internal management. The only reason Betnomi is probably writing that here is to be able to win customers that way. As has already been stated, it is much more important to be open towards customers. You also know very well that you are obliged to perform the KYC checks from an X number of euros. Then don't pretend that is not necessary. I must say that the site looks nice, but more and more negative points are starting to surface. This is also the case with the company Viabet.
Surely there will be more connections with them than is claimed here.
Suppose you start your own gambling site, on your own platform, then the last thing you want is that your name is linked to another company?
Just took a look at "viabet.com", but that site turns out not to exist. Is all this safe guys? I get a very bad feeling about this.
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October 04, 2020, 07:02:38 PM
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This is a website with white label product from Betconstruct. That means they are in any case or connected to this organisation.
Why is the validator on your site not working? Usually, when you click on this icon, you will see company information. It is very important that you solve this, it will gain trust from customer.

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The information that Betnomi presents here is incorrect. From the point of view and perspective from Curacao, every betting office is obliged to go through the KYC procedure. I don't know from what amount, but from a certain amount every company is obliged to request this documentation. Has nothing to do with internal management. The only reason Betnomi is probably writing that here is to be able to win customers that way. As has already been stated, it is much more important to be open towards customers. You also know very well that you are obliged to perform the KYC checks from an X number of euros. Then don't pretend that is not necessary. I must say that the site looks nice, but more and more negative points are starting to surface. This is also the case with the company Viabet.
Surely there will be more connections with them than is claimed here.
Suppose you start your own gambling site, on your own platform, then the last thing you want is that your name is linked to another company?
Just took a look at "viabet.com", but that site turns out not to exist. Is all this safe guys? I get a very bad feeling about this.



It is obvious to us at this point, you are some kind of a paid troll or have your own personal agenda or simply not capable of doing any kind of a meaningful research. (we suggest you do that before spewing stuffs out)
In your previous comment, you stated there is a 3000 EUR limit and now, you don't know? You have no idea what kind of  licensing or regulatory compliance is required on our part. We understand this is crypto and most people are not too excited giving out personal information for privacy and or some other reason. Here at Betnomi, we do and will continue minimize the amount of personal information we require from our users.

One thing we recognize is, you most likely do not understand what KYC means. We have never required KYC from any user. We never requested anyone to provide any kind of ID for verifications etc.
What we require is not a KYC. Its simply profile data. You claim "it has nothing to do with internal management" which is a clear display of ignorance. We have various systems in place, risk management and other such system that are programmed in a way that requires these information's to assess and identify fraudulent users who abuse promotions and the system through various means. This is the only reason for this information. Nothing Else!

Just a few comments before, we categorically stated, we are not linked to any company in anyway except maybe in these circumstances " same premade site builder templates, payment gateway providers or same/ related master gaming license holder" But again, you are bringing up this "Viabet" nonsense. We have no relationship with them!

" Is all this safe guys? I get a very bad feeling about this" ?  I can confirm on behalf of our company that, we do not care about your feelings. We care only about facts and educated guesses. Always here to address any kind of concerns, receive feedbacks, suggestions and most importantly, keep improving the platform and services. What we are not going to do is waste time on baseless stuffs like these. We have been here since 2019 and no credible, matter of fact, no claims of we ever scamming anyone. We have worked too hard for this and for the last time, we don't care how you feel.

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But again, you are bringing up this "Viabet" nonsense. We have no relationship with them!


KYC is mandatory in Curacao. Also for your company. I have not further indicated that this is a problem. In contrast; it is only right that these types of controls are made mandatory by authorities. Can't you just mention that? And the reason I sort things out is because the information you post is incorrect. There are several people who have asked questions about viabet.com
People want to know what your website has to do with that. You always state that you have no association whatsoever with viabet.com
Maybe you should take a look at this picture, these are your terms and conditions. And then you say that you have nothing to do with viabet, while this is clearly stated in the conditions? I am curious for your reaction. I would also appreciate it if you, as an adult, respond here, and not include comments like "Paid troll". We are there in the forum to educate and inform others, and to ask for clarification if necessary. Here the screenshot of your terms and conditions.
Can you clarify this?


If viabet has nothing to do with you, why is it 100x in your terms and conditions?

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But again, you are bringing up this "Viabet" nonsense. We have no relationship with them!


KYC is mandatory in Curacao. Also for your company. I have not further indicated that this is a problem. In contrast; it is only right that these types of controls are made mandatory by authorities. Can't you just mention that? And the reason I sort things out is because the information you post is incorrect. There are several people who have asked questions about viabet.com
People want to know what your website has to do with that. You always state that you have no association whatsoever with viabet.com
Maybe you should take a look at this picture, these are your terms and conditions. And then you say that you have nothing to do with viabet, while this is clearly stated in the conditions? I am curious for your reaction. I would also appreciate it if you, as an adult, respond here, and not include comments like "Paid troll". We are there in the forum to educate and inform others, and to ask for clarification if necessary. Here the screenshot of your terms and conditions.
Can you clarify this?

If viabet has nothing to do with you, why is it 100x in your terms and conditions?



If only you took a second to read a few previous comments before jumping into conclusions. Many people have already asked this specific question already. Just so you know, you haven't discovered a new planet.
Clearly stated this is a site builder template and these text are nothing but a placeholder text. we are working to update all these information's and other pages such as promo page etc on the website.


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October 04, 2020, 10:43:02 PM
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When people register an account on your site, they agree to the terms and conditions, and those terms and conditions clearly state that they have an agreement with Viabet. Do you understand that this is against fraud? It does not matter to me, but if you indicate that you have nothing to do with Viabet, then you are not going to put that in the general terms and conditions, are you? We're not talking about a piece of paper here, we're talking about terms and conditions. It would be nice if I would buy a BMW at the garage and then sign the papers that it is a Mercedes. That's impossible. you only put a site online when everything is correct. Not if everything has to be addressed. Surely this could have been adjusted for a long time?
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October 04, 2020, 10:53:12 PM
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When people register an account on your site, they agree to the terms and conditions, and those terms and conditions clearly state that they have an agreement with Viabet. Do you understand that this is against fraud? It does not matter to me, but if you indicate that you have nothing to do with Viabet, then you are not going to put that in the general terms and conditions, are you? We're not talking about a piece of paper here, we're talking about terms and conditions. It would be nice if I would buy a BMW at the garage and then sign the papers that it is a Mercedes. That's impossible. you only put a site online when everything is correct. Not if everything has to be addressed. Surely this could have been adjusted for a long time?

It took as a long time to get to this point. Platform is fully operational and available games can be played without any issues. We made the decision to open up the website while we make changes and improvements rather than wait a few more weeks just for these information's. Everyone in their rational mind knows they are accepting these terms and conditions with Betnomi. Again, our users are happily using our platform without any complains or problems. If you have a real problem or question, we will not hesitate to answer/ provide you all the necessary information's. Until then, we consider you and your comments a waste of time and resource and not going to engage you. Its clear you are not acting in good faith.

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I don't think Arcas is not acting in good faith. Even if he has, he's still raising valid points. The way I look at it, you didn't think the terms and conditions are that important so you launched without updating them first. Some of the current players who signed up maybe happy playing but they probably didn't bother checking the terms and conditions.

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