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[icopress]

The other thing its, i was playing poker today in a tournament (practicing for the Betnomi poker series of Bitcointalk) and i found a little bug, after sometime the poker client i dont know why "close" your session, and you have to re upload the whole page to keep playing, nothing big but when you are playing some big hand this can make you lose very hard, that seconds counts.

I repeat only the small window of poker have this trouble, the whole page still mark you as loged in.

Last week I had the same problem but I didn't focus on it because my VPN sometimes reconnects itself to different less loaded servers.

I thought this might be the issue.

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[examplens]

is there any chance betnomi or someone who represents them will respond in this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5440776.0 thread and thus end the drama going on there?

I understand that anyone who loses money in a casino believes that they have the right to complain, and it is difficult to answer everyone. But otherwise, it would be desirable if Betnomi representatives participate more often in that section with relevant answers. even if they were baseless accusations they should not be ignored.
Just my 2 sat's.

[betnomi.com]

is there any chance betnomi or someone who represents them will respond in this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5440776.0 thread and thus end the drama going on there?

I understand that anyone who loses money in a casino believes that they have the right to complain, and it is difficult to answer everyone. But otherwise, it would be desirable if Betnomi representatives participate more often in that section with relevant answers. even if they were baseless accusations they should not be ignored.
Just my 2 sat's.

Examplens, Thank you for notifying us. This user is really manipulating pricing which is against the rules of sports betting and we are confident that our risk management tools gave this case the right assessment. Thus, there is no question that he abused our trust.

Our rules (T&C) are straightforward and simple, we will actively enforce them. However, we are unable to share the details of this case, other than those previously disclosed, as in the long term, it could jeopardize our risk management practices and other internal mechanisms and processes. For this reason, as a gesture of goodwill, the user can withdraw his funds, after which his account will be blocked.

[examplens]

Examplens, Thank you for notifying us. This user is really manipulating pricing which is against the rules of sports betting and we are confident that our risk management tools gave this case the right assessment. Thus, there is no question that he abused our trust.

Our rules (T&C) are straightforward and simple, we will actively enforce them. However, we are unable to share the details of this case, other than those previously disclosed, as in the long term, it could jeopardize our risk management practices and other internal mechanisms and processes. For this reason, as a gesture of goodwill, the user can withdraw his funds, after which his account will be blocked.

at this moment I am not going into all the details of what @lesliegray specifically did and how he cheated the system or not, but maybe you should have it clearly indicated in your TOS so that you can always refer to it and thus avoid additional doubt and explanations. I wouldn't be surprised if, in addition to the ban, he registers again and continues his winning combination.

I just wanted to point out that completely ignoring and not responding to scam accusations is not in the best interest of protecting your brand. Unlocking funds for withdrawal in this case is a good indicator that it was not just withholding money on your part, but it can only encourage some future pressures on you. which brings us back to the justification of my suggestion (and I think I'm not the only one) and this will certainly require more of your activities in similar campaigns.
I guess it's just part of the business.

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[lesliegray]

Examplens, Thank you for notifying us. This user is really manipulating pricing which is against the rules of sports betting and we are confident that our risk management tools gave this case the right assessment. Thus, there is no question that he abused our trust.

Our rules (T&C) are straightforward and simple, we will actively enforce them. However, we are unable to share the details of this case, other than those previously disclosed, as in the long term, it could jeopardize our risk management practices and other internal mechanisms and processes. For this reason, as a gesture of goodwill, the user can withdraw his funds, after which his account will be blocked.

at this moment I am not going into all the details of what @lesliegray specifically did and how he cheated the system or not, but maybe you should have it clearly indicated in your TOS so that you can always refer to it and thus avoid additional doubt and explanations. I wouldn't be surprised if, in addition to the ban, he registers again and continues his winning combination.

I just wanted to point out that completely ignoring and not responding to scam accusations is not in the best interest of protecting your brand. Unlocking funds for withdrawal in this case is a good indicator that it was not just withholding money on your part, but it can only encourage some future pressures on you. which brings us back to the justification of my suggestion (and I think I'm not the only one) and this will certainly require more of your activities in similar campaigns.
I guess it's just part of the business.

Stop assuming that I’m a cheater or even speculate about it, it's disrespectful. It’s like me coming in to your office and say that you don’t know shit about your job and assume that you cheated your way to where you are.

Do you know how many years of hard work, pain and dedication I have put into my work? Sports betting is a form of art if you understand it.

Do you guys even know what manipulating a pricing is?
Manipulating a price is when someone puts in volume on the other side to get a better line for the side he wants to put his bet on.

Example: Lakers has a -9.5 line against Houston Rockets. In order for me to manipulate this line I have to smash the line on Houston to move the initial 9.5 line on the Lakers. This requires volume across multiple books. When the traders then adjust the line on the Lakers to -8.5 thats when I place the bet that I wanted for a better price. I just manipulated the line and created edge.

This example is textbook in how prices are manipulated!

On the other hand, if I place a bet on Lakers -9.5 because I think it’s a good bet and has value and later see the line move to -10.5 because the market thinks the same, am I a manipulator because of that?

See the difference?

I will never in my lifetime open an account on Betnomi again so please stop assuming things.

[bislom]

is there any chance betnomi or someone who represents them will respond in this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5440776.0 thread and thus end the drama going on there?

I understand that anyone who loses money in a casino believes that they have the right to complain, and it is difficult to answer everyone. But otherwise, it would be desirable if Betnomi representatives participate more often in that section with relevant answers. even if they were baseless accusations they should not be ignored.
Just my 2 sat's.

Examplens, Thank you for notifying us. This user is really manipulating pricing which is against the rules of sports betting and we are confident that our risk management tools gave this case the right assessment. Thus, there is no question that he abused our trust.

Our rules (T&C) are straightforward and simple, we will actively enforce them. However, we are unable to share the details of this case, other than those previously disclosed, as in the long term, it could jeopardize our risk management practices and other internal mechanisms and processes. For this reason, as a gesture of goodwill, the user can withdraw his funds, after which his account will be blocked.

Drama?
betnomi is a scam company and does not pay its winners. I warned people from the beginning its a scam site but people are naive and Betnomi hired DT members to write positive.

STAY AWAY FROM THIS SCAM SITE

[slapper]

is there any chance betnomi or someone who represents them will respond in this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5440776.0 thread and thus end the drama going on there?

I understand that anyone who loses money in a casino believes that they have the right to complain, and it is difficult to answer everyone. But otherwise, it would be desirable if Betnomi representatives participate more often in that section with relevant answers. even if they were baseless accusations they should not be ignored.
Just my 2 sat's.

Examplens, Thank you for notifying us. This user is really manipulating pricing which is against the rules of sports betting and we are confident that our risk management tools gave this case the right assessment. Thus, there is no question that he abused our trust.

Our rules (T&C) are straightforward and simple, we will actively enforce them. However, we are unable to share the details of this case, other than those previously disclosed, as in the long term, it could jeopardize our risk management practices and other internal mechanisms and processes. For this reason, as a gesture of goodwill, the user can withdraw his funds, after which his account will be blocked.

Drama?
betnomi is a scam company and does not pay its winners. I warned people from the beginning its a scam site but people are naive and Betnomi hired DT members to write positive.

STAY AWAY FROM THIS SCAM SITE

it's déjà vu! Another day filled with people crying "scam" without any real proof. It's as if people want to accuse companies without any solid evidence, just because they didn't win. Who needs facts and evidence when you can just play the victim card?

It's amusing to see individuals seek scapegoats for their misfortunes. Perhaps it's time to stop playing the blame game and take responsibility for your actions. Betnomi has an outstanding track record of paying out winnings to its users.  Try honing your betting abilities instead of distributing misleading information and misinformation. Just a friendly suggestion to keep in mind.

[Poika5]

it's déjà vu! Another day filled with people crying "scam" without any real proof. It's as if people want to accuse companies without any solid evidence, just because they didn't win. Who needs facts and evidence when you can just play the victim card?

It's amusing to see individuals seek scapegoats for their misfortunes. Perhaps it's time to stop playing the blame game and take responsibility for your actions. Betnomi has an outstanding track record of paying out winnings to its users.  Try honing your betting abilities instead of distributing misleading information and misinformation. Just a friendly suggestion to keep in mind.

Their risk management team confessed that they are banning winning sports bettors:
(Thanks Icopress)

The user is manipulating the pricing, all odds dropped before the kick off, the user has a strong mathematical and analytical pattern of betting in the exact position, as the pattern was repeated again and again, the user is a strong opinion user and is using strategy to gain leverage in the long term, which is against our T&C. If a user feels that we have done something unfair, please tell them not to hesitate to file a complaint with the Curacao gambling authorities and we will be happy to work with them to resolve the issue. Also, if he needs help getting in touch with them, please let us know and we will provide him with their contact information. We will continue to enforce our fraud prevention policies and take appropriate actions when we detect fraud or abuse.

I worked for one of the biggest sports betting providers, and all my co-workers would classify Betnomi as a scam.


@Betnomi, please check this thread:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5441786.0
EDIT: Thank you for finally fixing the problem.

Do you guys even know what manipulating a pricing is?

Believe me they don't know anything about odds manipulation. They are probably talking about closing line value.

[cicadasTR]

Betnomi has an outstanding track record of paying out winnings to its users.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=2532772

Trusted feedback: 13 positives. 12 are asinine, "BOUGHT A COLOURING BOOK!!", only 1 is an Engrishy sorta review as a gambling site.

Untrusted but actually related to paying out: elegigglebets   2023-03-02   Reference   See reference link. Casino with very harsh KYC rules, haven't been able to withdraw my funds in more than 3 months
lesliegray   2023-02-28   Reference   Scammed me for 3600$.
bislom   2022-12-06      Scam site, stole 4000$ from me!
kontrakwel   2021-10-14      SCAM Site. Stole 4k from my account. criminal organisation!
konabel   2021-05-05      Holding my withdrawal for more than 2 weeks.
Rejected every time. Absolute scam!

[bislom]

Betnomi is scamming people from the beginning. They paid Yahoo manager a lot of money to defend this scam site. People on this forum do everything for money. Not only betnomi.com
Betnomi does not pay out big players. They even extortioned a person with posting her passport.
This trash site only pay if you win 100$ or similar. If you win to much, Betnomi write that you violated the rules and they confiscated your money. But, first they will delay the withdrawal for some weeks or months, hoping the user will cancel his request and gamble it all. I am an experienced gambler, the last websites where you should not play are 1xbit and Betnomi.

The master license holder in Curacao even terminated the license of Betnomi since Betnomi frauded and there were to many complaints.
If you consider to bet, do NOT deposit on Betnomi, its outright scam and their trust rating is bought by some DT members which should not even have this status.

[betnomi]

It's interesting to see people share their opinion without understanding the nuance of a situation
We have seen claims of "holding BTC hostage" on our website.
I would take the time to clarify and point out some valuable details. Betnomi is not just a Casino.
We are a Sportsbook and Casino platform that has operated for almost four years.

Since we started operating Betnomi, there hasn't been a single incident where a user played in our Casino, and the payout was refused
at least not that we can find.

However, it's a different issue with the Sportsbook. Sportsbooks are a complicated product and operation to run.
With over 250k monthly Sports events, there is a lot of room for fraudulent users to exploit the product by doing,
Arbitrage Betting, Sure Betting, Late Betting, Fixed Match Betting, Betting on dropping Odds (Odds Manipulation), and many more

It's a dicey situation, and we need to be on the lookout for these kinds of users hunting and abusing Sportsbooks as their daily job.
There are different approaches to dealing with the situation.

Some Sportsbooks payout anyways and close/limit those accounts afterward because they generate enough profits to compensate for that and preserve their reputation.

Another solution is not to offer only major leagues and very few markets this way, there is less room for abuse (most popular solution)

Our solution is to offer everything. We want to give our users the maximum number of available Sports events and markets because
we don't think allowing these abusers to force us to reduce sports offerings is a good decision. There are periods/ seasons where major events don't occur; in those periods, we want our users to have to option to bet on minor leagues as well. This is why on any day, anytime, our Sportsbook has multiple times the number of events on any other sportsbook.

This then leaves our Sportsbook wide open for abuse; if you ever wonder why the reports/complaint rate may be higher than other Casinos, this is why.
For the most part, we have regular players who play all the time without any issues whatsoever, but occasionally, abusers jump in and try to exploit the freedom and flexibility we offer.
In such cases, of course, depending on the nature of the abuse, we request KYC and other things and pay them out to ensure they are not back doing the same thing, and this mostly resolves the problem. However, some of these users refuse to comply and try to file reports and use pressure tactics to get away with their fraud.

As previously stated, we will not let a few bad apples ruin the fun for everyone, and we will continue to offer lots of markets and monitor the Sports platform for abuse;
when we find it, we will take the appropriate action, including KYC, implementing limits, and or outright closing those accounts.

We can conclusively state not one time did a legitimate user play on our Sportsbook and run into an issue.
Some people may ask how we know whether a user is fraudulent or legitimate;  We have an internal risk management team and an external risk management service provided by the sportsbook data feed provider, with over 200 risk management professionals monitoring the sportsbook for other 3000+ partners.
We only consider a user fraudulent and take action only if our internal assessment matches what the third-party provider gives us on the user.
Our confidence score is 100% regarding risk management decisions, there is zero percent chance we miscategorize a user.

The people that encounter these problems are professional Sportsbook abusers whose daily job is to look for opportunities to exploit.
If that is your job, then we are not the platform for you; otherwise, everyone is welcome and should have a smooth gaming experience at Betnomi.


In the next few weeks, we have a lot to share with everyone regarding the future of Betnomi, and it's exciting.



Regards,

Betnomi.

[cicadasTR]

Betnomi is [...]

Hi, it came to my awareness that you've been enthusiastically promoting this... err... awareness campaign against betnomi for the past three months, and I tracked your initial complaint against them was on 25 August. I can't find your formal complaint, though I find a topic about... oxy, not that it's related to this case... hopefully.

So, have you raised any accusation with evidences against them? I'd be more than happy to follow the development of the thread and the case if you make one.

Unfortunate first choice of link. Nice non sequitur on second though, classy.

znbdnv, yesterday I received your letter in which you asked me to expedite the withdrawal process as much as possible and I told you that I would do my best. Nevertheless, without waiting for an answer, you immediately went here. Please be patient, I have just been told that your case is currently under review.

Given the large sum, they might require you to do a full KYC, did you already do this? Try to also contact the Betnomi representative that is active on this forum by PM.

Betnomi does not require KYC regardless of the withdrawal or deposit amount.

So, you had this problem couple of times? I haven’t used betnomi. Created an account. But this doesn’t sound good to be honest. Why would they make such delay on withdrawal? Is this something like the amount is higher? Can you share how much was your withdrawal on March?

Sir, the user answered this earlier.

I previously played Betnomi in March and after winning I received a payout in less than an hour (the amount was about $30,000). The current situation upsets me a bit.

"Source of Wealth: if a player deposits cryptocurrency equal to $5000 (five thousand dollars) and more, an SOW (source of wealth) must be established."

[holydarkness]

Betnomi is scamming people from the beginning. They paid Yahoo manager a lot of money to defend this scam site. People on this forum do everything for money. Not only betnomi.com
Betnomi does not pay out big players. They even extortioned a person with posting her passport.
This trash site only pay if you win 100$ or similar. If you win to much, Betnomi write that you violated the rules and they confiscated your money. But, first they will delay the withdrawal for some weeks or months, hoping the user will cancel his request and gamble it all. I am an experienced gambler, the last websites where you should not play are 1xbit and Betnomi.

The master license holder in Curacao even terminated the license of Betnomi since Betnomi frauded and there were to many complaints.
If you consider to bet, do NOT deposit on Betnomi, its outright scam and their trust rating is bought by some DT members which should not even have this status.

Hi, it came to my awareness that you've been enthusiastically posting against betnomi for the past three months, and I tracked your initial complaint against them was on 25 August. However, I can't find your formal complaint. Have you raised any accusation with evidences against them? I'd be more than happy to follow the development of the thread and the case if you make one.

Hmm... My previous post was deleted by mod. Been a while since I unintentionally posted something that's not on forum standard. Or maybe the content is a bit... controversial. My apology, mods. Please allow me to rephrase them.

[cicadasTR]

Betnomi is scamming people from the beginning. They paid Yahoo manager a lot of money to defend this scam site. People on this forum do everything for money. Not only betnomi.com
Betnomi does not pay out big players. They even extortioned a person with posting her passport.
This trash site only pay if you win 100$ or similar. If you win to much, Betnomi write that you violated the rules and they confiscated your money. But, first they will delay the withdrawal for some weeks or months, hoping the user will cancel his request and gamble it all. I am an experienced gambler, the last websites where you should not play are 1xbit and Betnomi.

The master license holder in Curacao even terminated the license of Betnomi since Betnomi frauded and there were to many complaints.
If you consider to bet, do NOT deposit on Betnomi, its outright scam and their trust rating is bought by some DT members which should not even have this status.

Hi, it came to my awareness that you've been enthusiastically posting against betnomi for the past three months, and I tracked your initial complaint against them was on 25 August. However, I can't find your formal complaint. Have you raised any accusation with evidences against them? I'd be more than happy to follow the development of the thread and the case if you make one.

Hmm... My previous post was deleted by mod. Been a while since I unintentionally posted something that's not on forum standard. Or maybe the content is a bit... controversial. My apology, mods. Please allow me to rephrase them.

The auld unintentionally tried to discredit someone. These mistakes happen. While you're waiting for Bislom, maybe you can ask Betnomi about why they lied about KYC? Since you're neutral (...), I'm sure you will also ask questions of them. KYC is fine, but why lie about it?

We have been here for at least 8 months. We never asked anyone for KYC and on multiple occasions clarified our position on the issue but still, a handful of people (the same people) repeatedly throw around the same stuff even though it has been addressed several times. Our understanding is, there are some people who have just one goal, to spread false information promote distrust and take down Casino projects/ companies. Whatever it maybe, we wish them good luck. To anyone who has a legitimate concern about the KYC issue, take our words for it. You will not be required to provide any such documents.

Thank you.

1 day later contradicting themselves, lol. Anyone = average I guess?

This is a good thing. If the terms are changed and it states that no KYC is required for cryptocurrency transactions, then that will certainly remove a lot of question marks and doubts from players.

We understand the urge/ need to have the KYC clause removed from our terms and conditions but unfortunately, for legal and regulatory reasons, we are unable to do that at this time. All we can do is, make clear we will not require an average player to under go the KYC process. Unless we determine the player to be a fraudulent player or reasons outside our purview. Other than these circumstances,  KYC should not be of a concern as a crypto user on our platform. If this is not enough, we are not sure what will be.

znbdnv, yesterday I received your letter in which you asked me to expedite the withdrawal process as much as possible and I told you that I would do my best. Nevertheless, without waiting for an answer, you immediately went here. Please be patient, I have just been told that your case is currently under review.

Given the large sum, they might require you to do a full KYC, did you already do this? Try to also contact the Betnomi representative that is active on this forum by PM.

Betnomi does not require KYC regardless of the withdrawal or deposit amount.

So, you had this problem couple of times? I haven’t used betnomi. Created an account. But this doesn’t sound good to be honest. Why would they make such delay on withdrawal? Is this something like the amount is higher? Can you share how much was your withdrawal on March?

Sir, the user answered this earlier.

I previously played Betnomi in March and after winning I received a payout in less than an hour (the amount was about $30,000). The current situation upsets me a bit.

Calling steam chasing cheating, or that they have "more events than any other books" when all Betconstruct books have those lines. Like these are also factually lies, you can look them up. And rejecting KYC documents equalling "refusing to comply" is either semantic games or poor command of English which seems to be a running theme.

With over 250k monthly Sports events, there is a lot of room for fraudulent users to exploit the product by doing,
Arbitrage Betting, Sure Betting, Late Betting, Fixed Match Betting, Betting on dropping Odds (Odds Manipulation), and many more

This is why on any day, anytime, our Sportsbook has multiple times the number of events on any other sportsbook.

In such cases, of course, depending on the nature of the abuse, we request KYC and other things and pay them out to ensure they are not back doing the same thing , and this mostly resolves the problem. However, some of these users refuse to comply and try to file reports and use pressure tactics to get away with their fraud.

[betnomi.com]

Guys great news!

In the news feed of the forum you will find a link to an extraordinary forum competition initiated by RickDeckard, a competition in which we were lucky enough to become sponsors.

The rules are simple:

- Bake a Bitcoin Pie
- Post photos in this thread.
- Win a Betnomi Custom Wallet.

[bislom]

Don't deposit your money on Betnomi, they don't pay you.
Stay away from this scam site.

[holydarkness]

Hi, it came to my awareness that you've been enthusiastically posting against betnomi for the past three months, and I tracked your initial complaint against them was on 25 August. However, I can't find your formal complaint. Have you raised any accusation with evidences against them? I'd be more than happy to follow the development of the thread and the case if you make one.

Hmm... My previous post was deleted by mod. Been a while since I unintentionally posted something that's not on forum standard. Or maybe the content is a bit... controversial. My apology, mods. Please allow me to rephrase them.

Dont try to turn the tables. mods are deleting messages if you write negative about betnomi. The forum is full about complaints and scam accustions against betnomi, betnomi does not pay winners and its a scam site.

Uhh... no, the post got deleted because someone reported it as an out of topic post, I asked the mods. If you want to ask who reported it, you're more than welcome to ask it yourself to the mods. I was contempt with the explanation as I can quite agree, my previous post did a little bit OOT, given this thread is about a gambling announcement and discussion and I was talking about a scam accusation and your old thread, which... is why, I urged you to create your own thread, complete with your evidences, so everyone can see and discuss it in a more on-topic manner. I wonder, why haven't you?

Betnomi is scamming people from the beginning. They paid Yahoo manager a lot of money to defend this scam site. People on this forum do everything for money. Not only betnomi.com
Betnomi does not pay out big players. They even extortioned a person with posting her passport.
This trash site only pay if you win 100$ or similar. If you win to much, Betnomi write that you violated the rules and they confiscated your money. But, first they will delay the withdrawal for some weeks or months, hoping the user will cancel his request and gamble it all. I am an experienced gambler, the last websites where you should not play are 1xbit and Betnomi.

The master license holder in Curacao even terminated the license of Betnomi since Betnomi frauded and there were to many complaints.
If you consider to bet, do NOT deposit on Betnomi, its outright scam and their trust rating is bought by some DT members which should not even have this status.

Hi, it came to my awareness that you've been enthusiastically posting against betnomi for the past three months, and I tracked your initial complaint against them was on 25 August. However, I can't find your formal complaint. Have you raised any accusation with evidences against them? I'd be more than happy to follow the development of the thread and the case if you make one.

Hmm... My previous post was deleted by mod. Been a while since I unintentionally posted something that's not on forum standard. Or maybe the content is a bit... controversial. My apology, mods. Please allow me to rephrase them.

The auld unintentionally tried to discredit someone. These mistakes happen. While you're waiting for Bislom, maybe you can ask Betnomi about why they lied about KYC? Since you're neutral (...), I'm sure you will also ask questions of them. KYC is fine, but why lie about it?

We have been here for at least 8 months. We never asked anyone for KYC and on multiple occasions clarified our position on the issue but still, a handful of people (the same people) repeatedly throw around the same stuff even though it has been addressed several times. Our understanding is, there are some people who have just one goal, to spread false information promote distrust and take down Casino projects/ companies. Whatever it maybe, we wish them good luck. To anyone who has a legitimate concern about the KYC issue, take our words for it. You will not be required to provide any such documents.

Thank you.

1 day later contradicting themselves, lol. Anyone = average I guess?

This is a good thing. If the terms are changed and it states that no KYC is required for cryptocurrency transactions, then that will certainly remove a lot of question marks and doubts from players.

We understand the urge/ need to have the KYC clause removed from our terms and conditions but unfortunately, for legal and regulatory reasons, we are unable to do that at this time. All we can do is, make clear we will not require an average player to under go the KYC process. Unless we determine the player to be a fraudulent player or reasons outside our purview. Other than these circumstances,  KYC should not be of a concern as a crypto user on our platform. If this is not enough, we are not sure what will be.

znbdnv, yesterday I received your letter in which you asked me to expedite the withdrawal process as much as possible and I told you that I would do my best. Nevertheless, without waiting for an answer, you immediately went here. Please be patient, I have just been told that your case is currently under review.

Given the large sum, they might require you to do a full KYC, did you already do this? Try to also contact the Betnomi representative that is active on this forum by PM.

Betnomi does not require KYC regardless of the withdrawal or deposit amount.

So, you had this problem couple of times? I haven’t used betnomi. Created an account. But this doesn’t sound good to be honest. Why would they make such delay on withdrawal? Is this something like the amount is higher? Can you share how much was your withdrawal on March?

Sir, the user answered this earlier.

I previously played Betnomi in March and after winning I received a payout in less than an hour (the amount was about $30,000). The current situation upsets me a bit.

Calling steam chasing cheating, or that they have "more events than any other books" when all Betconstruct books have those lines. Like these are also factually lies, you can look them up. And rejecting KYC documents equalling "refusing to comply" is either semantic games or poor command of English which seems to be a running theme.

With over 250k monthly Sports events, there is a lot of room for fraudulent users to exploit the product by doing,
Arbitrage Betting, Sure Betting, Late Betting, Fixed Match Betting, Betting on dropping Odds (Odds Manipulation), and many more

This is why on any day, anytime, our Sportsbook has multiple times the number of events on any other sportsbook.

In such cases, of course, depending on the nature of the abuse, we request KYC and other things and pay them out to ensure they are not back doing the same thing , and this mostly resolves the problem. However, some of these users refuse to comply and try to file reports and use pressure tactics to get away with their fraud.

"The auld" was explained above.

"The question to betnomi", I believe you asked this for the sake that it's being related to your own case? I am not really sure I get why you misunderstood their meaning, eventhough the posts you quoted above had explained quite well, they will not ask KYC as long as you gamble fairly. KYC would be required upon the findings of fraudulent activity. I urged you to re-read your thread, they've explained their KYC process, or just read below,

[...]

We will take this opportunity to clarify our position on KYC and other user verification processes. We are not a traditional casino, but a crypto casino - The concept and principles behind crypto is something we strongly believe in. Although there are some regulatory and compliance requirements, we walk a fine line between complying with the laws and preserving users' privacy and anonymity as much as possible.

The KYC process at Betnomi is in three stages.

• Basic - Basic information
• Intermediate - Proof of identity and address
• Advance - Source of funds

The reason for these separate steps is to preserve users' privacy and not be unnecessarily invasive and intrusive into our user's privacy.
In most cases, users are required to complete just basic KYC. For intermediate and advanced - this is subjective and a judgment call that our team rarely makes on an individual basis. If we detect suspicious or fraudulent activity based on its nature and extent, we request the appropriate level of KYC.

If there is a legitimate win, you can be sure you will not be required to go through any such process. For example, we recently paid out 400k ETH win on Baccarat the withdrawal was processed without any KYC requirement. Several users have successfully withdrawn large amounts without KYC, but you can be sure we will enforce KYC and other fraud-preventative measures when we detect such cases.

[cicadasTR]

Nope, asking in general. KYC is required in all circumstances 5k or over deposit according to the AML. But a "legitimate win" and 5k deposit KYC no longer required?? So which is it? Their terms are lying or they lie on here? Do you even know?

If a player deposits cryptocurrency equal to $5000 (five thousand dollars) and more, an SOW (source of wealth) must be established.
https://betnomi.com/aml

Not seeing the gamble fairly or fraudulent activity bit in that quote above either, can you show me?

[holydarkness]

Nope, asking in general. KYC is required in all circumstances 5k or over deposit according to the AML. But a "legitimate win" and 5k deposit KYC no longer required?? So which is it? Their terms are lying or they lie on here? Do you even know?

If a player deposits cryptocurrency equal to $5000 (five thousand dollars) and more, an SOW (source of wealth) must be established.
https://betnomi.com/aml

Not seeing the gamble fairly or fraudulent activity bit in that quote above either, can you show me?

This, IMO, is leaning towards one of the point on your case instead of "in general". Perhaps you can show us a case other than yours so the statement "in general" will have a better ground?

As for your account, was flagged and they initially asked for a simple KYC, which you failed to successfully pass, which worsen their suspicion towards you and escalated the KYC to the advance level. This also already explained on the post I quoted from Betnomi above,

[...]
The KYC process at Betnomi is in three stages.

• Basic - Basic information
• Intermediate - Proof of identity and address
• Advance - Source of funds

The reason for these separate steps is to preserve users' privacy and not be unnecessarily invasive and intrusive into our user's privacy.
In most cases, users are required to complete just basic KYC. For intermediate and advanced - this is subjective and a judgment call that our team rarely makes on an individual basis. If we detect suspicious or fraudulent activity based on its nature and extent, we request the appropriate level of KYC.

If there is a legitimate win, you can be sure you will not be required to go through any such process. For example, [...]

If you'd like to continue discussing about this matter, I encourage you to please consider moving the discussion to the designated thread; your scam accusation. It'll help a lot of people overseeing your case to understand the developments of it, as I've said numerous times on different occasions, it's quite hard to follow a case if the updates and exchanges of information are made through several different threads --plus, I am not in the mood of anyone reporting my posts which only aimed to address people's questions here as something OOT and got deleted, again.

I hope this could be the last time I have to reply you here for the issue you currently have. As an additional note, I'll add something I've been wanting to say on your thread tomorrow in regards to the last posts made on the said thread, but itll have to wait as its been way past my bed time.