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October 05, 2020, 12:50:20 PM
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Who is duplicating bitcoin forum?. no signup and a login button.

https://bitcointalksearch.org



forum has no signature, maybe someone creates this for searching only or try to create phishing, I Don't know what the motivation.

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Forum stats are different. The fake forum has smaller figures. No login so it is not a phishing site but be careful of backdoor risks.

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Domain:bitcointalksearch.org
Registrar:1API GmbH
Registered On:2018-07-23
Expires On:2021-07-23
Updated On:2020-07-24
Status:clientTransferProhibited
Name Servers:jim.ns.cloudflare.com
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October 05, 2020, 01:22:54 PM
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I guess that's why you should always double check the links you click while browsing, especially when it comes to crypto related websites. There are not only various scam/fake projects out there, scammers tend to copy whole websites to give you the impression you are logging in on the correct website, but you aren't.

Certain Bitcointalk accounts are valuable and people try to steal them obviously. So beware and always check on which website you are entering your details (even if it's not possible on the duplicate you mentioned above!).

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October 05, 2020, 01:24:06 PM
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It seems to be like a sort of hobby project of someone. The only reason I wouldn't call this a site for phishing, is that there's no login options like you said, and with taking a look at some pages, I currently don't see anything sketchy about it. The signature space is removed too.

With that said, of course, the site owner could add a fake login option mainly for phishing anytime in the future.

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October 05, 2020, 01:38:11 PM
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Well for me, there might something on this fake site there might be phishing sites under that website even they don't have a login page how about the links from threads or button on the site. Maybe one or many links from this site could be a phishing link if you click it can lead you to a phishing site that looks legit.

I tried to check their backlinks on Ahrefs but it seems they only have 8 backlinks linking to coupon sites where I think they are trying to use the bitcointalk forum as a landing page to promote a thread?

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bitcointalksearch.org/topic/listopen-merit-source-applicationswaiting-list-5197548/6-page.html
bitcointalksearch.org/topic/zero-coupon-bonds-catastrophe-bonds-based-mining-pool-5268474

This is the only two he promoted on other sites. That one(The merit source topic) has ads with the charity he might be trying to lead visitors in that ads "Ads: Support Bitcointalk Charity Program".

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October 05, 2020, 01:40:08 PM
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The only thing what can be achieved is to connect your IP with the information you are searching and somehow try to connect your main account with the used IP. Use VPN or TOR if you going to open it. I found this thread as well so it is quite updated, just the sorting of posts is opposite.

@BitMaxz using the name of the threads in the links is maybe a way to steal some traffic from the original forum, and get higher in the Search results. I see they did the same with the users. The link to a user is a combination of ID and Username.

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October 05, 2020, 02:05:58 PM
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It seems to be like a sort of hobby project of someone. The only reason I wouldn't call this a site for phishing, is that there's no login options like you said, and with taking a look at some pages, I currently don't see anything sketchy about it. The signature space is removed too.

With that said, of course, the site owner could add a fake login option mainly for phishing anytime in the future.

Indeed, phishing only occurs when a user did an INPUT of his account's login credentials on a fake website, in which the accused website here does not have. I think they only did this for tests or traffic purposes, that they would soon change this onto something much useful, or they might still be developing the phishing codes for this website yet they've published everything sooner. Its been only months since this is registered. I guess the makers of this alt website will update this soon. But as a warning, better not engage nor access this website, not until the further confirmation of its legitimacy.

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October 05, 2020, 02:21:02 PM
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The only thing what can be achieved is to connect your IP with the information you are searching and somehow try to connect your main account with the used IP. Use VPN or TOR if you going to open it. I found this thread as well so it is quite updated, just the sorting of posts is opposite.

@BitMaxz using the name of the threads in the links is maybe a way to steal some traffic from the original forum, and get higher in the Search results. I see they did the same with the users. The link to a user is a combination of ID and Username.

How can that be possible, because what we think that will work out at times,it doesn't work the way we expected, the question is that from your analysis has you tried it and it's work out for you. Because using VPN it depends the type or level of VPN used because some VPN does not work except that we use the strong one.

But is not that I'm disputing your suggestion but trying to get more points from your direction or description, shall everything is based on practical, I will ensure that I practicalised these so that I can testify these if such comes across again.


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October 05, 2020, 02:33:12 PM
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It is not the first bitcointalk clone website forum and they probably made it for some phishing scams and stealing members username and password information. Maybe it will help if we all report them to google and their domain also.
I see they are missing menu tabs and they probably have some custom login link. DO NOT TRY TO LOG IN



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October 06, 2020, 11:40:30 AM
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Who is duplicating bitcoin forum?. no signup and a login button.

https://bitcointalksearch.org


forum has no signature, maybe someone creates this for searching only or try to create phishing, I Don't know what the motivation.
I think it will hobby project as said by Mk4 or probably phishing in future but people need to be more careful as advised cause I have once seen a site like this before when I was doing some research online but the site was later shut down couldn't provide evidence that the site exists cause I'm unaware of archiving site then.
I will advise the OP to add the site archive link to the OP page for future purposes.

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October 06, 2020, 12:24:50 PM
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@OP how did you manage to stumble upon this website because I've searching "Bitcointalk" in Google and it is not showing up even on the second page? There is a potential that the designer of this website might go live and turn into a phishing website, all he has to do is to fake up the log-in page to fool people so I think informing everyone about a Bitcointalk clone is important

It seems to be like a sort of hobby project of someone. The only reason I wouldn't call this a site for phishing, is that there's no login options like you said, and with taking a look at some pages, I currently don't see anything sketchy about it. The signature space is removed too.

With that said, of course, the site owner could add a fake login option mainly for phishing anytime in the future.

Yeah but it has the potential to be one since they have a chance to change their website and if this is just a "hobby project" why would they make it on a live domain when designing a website can be done on offline means.
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October 06, 2020, 05:47:00 PM
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So, is it a phishing site or are they trying to replicate the success of bitcointalk? I wouldn't trust it at all and I hope people don't get tricked and try to log in using the same username and pass they use for bitcointalk.
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So, is it a phishing site or are they trying to replicate the success of bitcointalk? I wouldn't trust it at all and I hope people don't get tricked and try to log in using the same username and pass they use for bitcointalk.

If you are so afraid of it, go to "C:\Windows\System32\drivers\etc" and create a new line in your hosts file (assuming you are using windows) and paste down this line:

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and save.

From now on, you won't be able to reach this website even if you clicked its link by mistake.

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October 06, 2020, 08:27:45 PM
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If you are so afraid of it, go to "C:\Windows\System32\drivers\etc" and create a new line in your hosts file (assuming you are using windows) and paste down this line:

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127.0.0.1 www.bitcointalksearch.org

and save.

While he is correct, if you just do that ^^ you'll get a confusing "Access Denied" message.

Easiest way to do this is type "notepad" in the search bar, right click on the "Notepad" result and choose "run as administrator".   Then open the file
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October 06, 2020, 09:40:04 PM
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@BitMaxz using the name of the threads in the links is maybe a way to steal some traffic from the original forum, and get higher in the Search results. I see they did the same with the users. The link to a user is a combination of ID and Username.

No it will hard for this website to get rank and get traffic from the SERP, all of their contents are plagiarize, Google is always detects duplicate and plagiarism so they will out rank and remove on the SERP.

Since our forum has high-autority score they can't get or steal any traffic from the forum. Never heard someone succeed on getting traffic and get rank by duplicating a website.

Maybe the owner of the website doesn't know how SEO works and trying to promote the charity without following the "Google seo guidelines"(He might be thinking that he can get traffic so easily due to popularity of our forum).

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October 07, 2020, 11:11:04 AM
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@OP how did you manage to stumble upon this website because I've searching "Bitcointalk" in Google and it is not showing up even on the second page?
I found it by accident. I read this thread and try searching on google search using "Karartma1 satoshi" keyword. You will see more like, thebitcointalk.net either.

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October 07, 2020, 01:38:50 PM
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The only thing what can be achieved is to connect your IP with the information you are searching and somehow try to connect your main account with the used IP. Use VPN or TOR if you going to open it. I found this thread as well so it is quite updated, just the sorting of posts is opposite.


Only knowing the IP wont do any harm. I just visited the site and they may have tracked my IP. But they never know who am i on bitcointalk. They can't detect my username from my ip. So collecting only IP's are useless i guess. Maybe they have some other intentions.
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October 07, 2020, 01:52:05 PM
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@OP how did you manage to stumble upon this website because I've searching "Bitcointalk" in Google and it is not showing up even on the second page?
I found it by accident. I read this thread and try searching on google search using "Karartma1 satoshi" keyword. You will see more like, thebitcointalk.net either.

It probably got a hit with the SEO since it being a duplicate of Bitcointalk the thread you first saw the keyword is also in the clone's website which I think this is the reason why it is showing up in the search results. I also tried searching the keywords and indeed it showed up in the first page but it is 2nd to the last one before going to the 2nd page, the search result is giving me a link for their "Pizza for bitcoins?" thread.
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October 07, 2020, 05:22:32 PM
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It seems to be like a sort of hobby project of someone. The only reason I wouldn't call this a site for phishing, is that there's no login options like you said, and with taking a look at some pages, I currently don't see anything sketchy about it. The signature space is removed too.

With that said, of course, the site owner could add a fake login option mainly for phishing anytime in the future.
Maybe it is as you've said, just maybe a hobby gone viral or the owner of the site intends to showcase creativity with a mindset of posting it here but then, it could go wrong as the motives remains unknown.
Perhaps that which is not available now might be added later to serve various purposes. Besides, most newbies just might not know and some curious Bitcoin or cryptocurrency enthusiast might access it mistaking it for the original and the later result would be relayed here but by then, the damage would have been done already and with the nature of the crypto space, undoing what have been done or follow up is always rather too difficult or impossible. So, I still don't see the need for a duplicate with links. If anyone do, please be so kind and let us know perhaps, the site owner.

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October 07, 2020, 05:35:06 PM
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This is a phishing site even and using all these sites is stupid. In fact, it could be that they are carrying out a conspiracy to steal our bitcointalk password. On the other hand, they may want to search our personal wallet and try to hack it later. So be carefully and avoid it.  
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