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October 07, 2020, 04:34:16 AM
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I came accross this trading group on telegram they charge .06 btc to become a lifetime member, is anyone part of it ? are the trades any good ? Please dm me or reply let me know what you think

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October 07, 2020, 04:50:48 AM
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Its called Crypto Pump Island
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October 07, 2020, 04:52:24 AM
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I came accross this trading group on telegram they charge .06 btc to become a lifetime member, is anyone part of it ? are the trades any good ? Please dm me or reply let me know what you think


Thats expensive fee honestly. Signal groups are consideres pump and dump channels. Its rarely to find a legitimate trading signal that not depend on market makers. Ive once joined and the result is not that effective. Giving you a buy signal but I can say some are bit lucky for profits but its always a gamble cause some of the calls are also not accurate and inflicted some lose as well.

Just be careful, try the free version first there are lots of free one and no need for payment. Or better yet, learn yours personally.

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October 07, 2020, 04:52:52 AM
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A paid trading group should focus on education at the very least. Discussing set ups, targets, stop loss and other technical things.

"Crypto Pump Island" looks like a pump and dump group rather than a trading group. I'd be happy to pay 1 satoshi for lifetime membership to help them out.

Are you really asking or is this your own telegram group? I hope I don't see other new members posting their "profitable trades" later.

 

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October 07, 2020, 05:02:21 AM
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I came accross this trading group on telegram they charge .06 btc to become a lifetime member, is anyone part of it ? are the trades any good ? Please dm me or reply let me know what you think

https://ibb.co/bWtBSXd

Thats expensive fee honestly. Signal groups are consideres pump and dump channels. Its rarely to find a legitimate trading signal that not depend on market makers. Ive once joined and the result is not that effective. Giving you a buy signal but I can say some are bit lucky for profits but its always a gamble cause some of the calls are also not accurate and inflicted some lose as well.

Just be careful, try the free version first there are lots of free one and no need for payment. Or better yet, learn yours personally.

Makes sense thanks for replying to this I will wait before joining. Where do you recommed to go to learn to trade? Do you trade ? If yes how much do you make per week if you dont mind me asking
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October 07, 2020, 05:06:44 AM
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Don't join those "paid trading group". They are just some shitty groups that takes money from newbies giving them the hope of making money from trading. Those are just some shitty pumping and dumping groups. There is a high chance that you will make loss. Only those lucky enough makes the profit. I have heard there are groups with hundreds of people where the owners of the group start pumping a shit coin and then encourages others to invest in it. Once they start investing, the owners dumps the coin talking all the profit and while others make the loss.
Also there is a high chance they will provide you with information that are available publicly.

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October 07, 2020, 05:08:04 AM
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I respect the people who follow and enter groups so that they can give them signals, but it must be taken into account that they have many limitations, why do they give signals? why don't they use those signals for themselves and win?

A friend was in a group of signals and at that moment bitcoin had a fall, those of the group pointed out that they could not give it more signals until Bitcoin rises in price or recovers, also the coins they choose are only for pump and dump I really don't recommend it.

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You have made a thread asking about pump and dump groups. Crypto trading P&D groups

I think you should go back to that thread and read the suggestions people made to you. They are all good suggestions and tips which and which is not you should avoid in joining paid groups.

Just have your time to read those words.

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October 07, 2020, 05:27:35 AM
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Many other paid trading group on the telegram and 0.06 bitcoin is not the highest subscription fee. I saw the fee is 0.1 bitcoin in one paid trading group from one guy that promotes his groups. He claims that he will give an accurate trading signal, but I don't believe it because if we check on the free trading group, sometimes we can get a free signal without paying any money.

But I have not heard that name in my telegram because I don't log in to my telegram for a long time ago. If you want to join that group, go ahead, and see what you will get from that group. But I suggest you learn about trading, and you can use that 0.06 btc as your balance to trade. You can have a chance to profit from that 0.06 btc, but you should have the skills to analyze the market.
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October 07, 2020, 05:36:05 AM
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Just have your time to read those words.
No use telling that.

I am certain of my suspicions that the OP is a shill account.

Like many other shill accounts they first ask about PnD groups like an innocent newbie while many of us attempt to explain why it is wrong to join them hoping that we can save a newbie from getting scammed and the few days later we find the same noob coming here and posting about some PnD groups which they like.

Utter nonsense and annoying methods of shilling these people have though. if they really want to promote their groups, this is not the right place for it. But it shows how helpless they are in their attempts at scamming people. Making new accounts everyday on so many forums to get more people in and then probably sell away the forum account to another scumbag.

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Just have your time to read those words.
No use telling that.

I am certain of my suspicions that the OP is a shill account.

Like many other shill accounts they first ask about PnD groups like an innocent newbie while many of us attempt to explain why it is wrong to join them hoping that we can save a newbie from getting scammed and the few days later we find the same noob coming here and posting about some PnD groups which they like.

Utter nonsense and annoying methods of shilling these people have though. if they really want to promote their groups, this is not the right place for it. But it shows how helpless they are in their attempts at scamming people. Making new accounts everyday on so many forums to get more people in and then probably sell away the forum account to another scumbag.


Thank you for explaining no I will not join that telegram group thanks for making me understand.
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October 07, 2020, 09:40:25 PM
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I will not prefer this much. I think it is better to do manual trading and I do just that. But of course, I do use market analysis feature by my broker FreshForex, which helps me with getting things moving right and enables me to perform in better way due to better decision making.
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October 07, 2020, 09:47:48 PM
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I came accross this trading group on telegram they charge .06 btc to become a lifetime member, is anyone part of it ? are the trades any good ? Please dm me or reply let me know what you think

Honestly, this kind of question should be answerable by our "common sense".

Even with basically no experience encountering that kind of group, I doubt a newbie will show interest in this type of offer. That's why it makes me lead to think that this is all about shilling.

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October 07, 2020, 09:59:15 PM
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I came accross this trading group on telegram they charge .06 btc to become a lifetime member, is anyone part of it ? are the trades any good ? Please dm me or reply let me know what you think


As of this writing .06 btc = $600+ .Suggestions? Its better to trade on your own and learn everything up because these groups arent really worth for that $600 and i would
rather tend to make use of this amount on my trading capital rather than relying my trades into a certain group which doesnt guaranteed profits. Nothing on this world would able
to know on what would be the future prices.I dont even believe into their displays about percentage gains.

Logically, if those group owners of said TG were profitable then they wont tend out to make groups and would rather make their money with their own trade.
Sounds right?

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October 07, 2020, 10:30:53 PM
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Are you really asking or is this your own telegram group? I hope I don't see other new members posting their "profitable trades" later.

I also believe that Op is trying to show his telegram group. The simple thing about this is that telegram group that gives out signal are always doing pumping of a coin and dumping it without the knowledge of others.
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As of this writing .06 btc = $600+ .Suggestions? Its better to trade on your own and learn everything up because these groups arent really worth for that $600 and i would
rather tend to make use of this amount on my trading capital rather than relying my trades into a certain group which doesnt guaranteed profits. Nothing on this world would able
to know on what would be the future prices.I dont even believe into their displays about percentage gains.

Logically, if those group owners of said TG were profitable then they wont tend out to make groups and would rather make their money with their own trade.
Sounds right?
Some of people are not willing to learn by their own so they end up joining on these kinds of paid premium signal channel which all they will do is hit the buy/sell button when the paid group signal, so paid premium signals are also using some bot or automatically processes where they will also do the execution of their signals, you just hand some keys (e.g. API keys) on a exchanges.

And, owners of said paid premium channels also are just doing business here, that's why even they are already profitable while just doing trades, they want some side hustle, so they will share their signals and collect for subscription, so easy money, another source of income for their. And also some of the owners of this paid premium channeles maybe hiring some trader to do the analysis.

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Are you really asking or is this your own telegram group? I hope I don't see other new members posting their "profitable trades" later.

I also believe that Op is trying to show his telegram group. The simple thing about this is that telegram group that gives out signal are always doing pumping of a coin and dumping it without the knowledge of others.
Basically, what i saw with OP is showing the telegram group for more admission from noobs, who are just wanting to make profit from nothing. There are telegram groups that give out signals but thousands of them are the pump and dump signals givers, so, be mindful of their tactics. For those who seek for such groups shouldn't apply on their paid version but for their free signal version to avoid be scam at the end.

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I came accross this trading group on telegram they charge .06 btc to become a lifetime member, is anyone part of it ? are the trades any good ? Please dm me or reply let me know what you think


Have you tried asking it to your self if this is reliable? or this is trustworthy? Because for me, why I should have to pay that much if I can learn it by myself without the support from others. They said a lifetime membership but the question is how they can assure that they give you back for that amount?
No, If I were you, I have to keep my 0.06BTC, I'd rather have to make this as a capital than to feed these people's mouths. This makes no sense because we know that these people can't give you help but just leaving you once they receive the money. That is the reality.

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I came accross this trading group on telegram they charge .06 btc to become a lifetime member, is anyone part of it ? are the trades any good ? Please dm me or reply let me know what you think


I just heard about the group for the first time...
if you are a beginner trader then don't join the paid group, you will only lose. can be sure the members in the group make fake analysis to attract you, they are just a gang of scammers.



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Are you really asking or is this your own telegram group? I hope I don't see other new members posting their "profitable trades" later.

I also believe that Op is trying to show his telegram group. The simple thing about this is that telegram group that gives out signal are always doing pumping of a coin and dumping it without the knowledge of others.

Maybe he's just curious, some newbie wanted a guide or reference in trading as well a easy money that sometimes they got easily become a victim becaimuse of these reason. I just hope it will not be some sort of thread that will show their profit later. I'd rather pay in a course or tutorial than for some channels that ask payment for a lifetime we don't even guarantee with if it's really effective.

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Are you really asking or is this your own telegram group? I hope I don't see other new members posting their "profitable trades" later.

I also believe that Op is trying to show his telegram group. The simple thing about this is that telegram group that gives out signal are always doing pumping of a coin and dumping it without the knowledge of others.

Maybe he's just curious, some newbie wanted a guide or reference in trading as well a easy money that sometimes they got easily become a victim becaimuse of these reason. I just hope it will not be some sort of thread that will show their profit later. I'd rather pay in a course or tutorial than for some channels that ask payment for a lifetime we don't even guarantee with if it's really effective.
Why would pay if we can get it for free? If we do talk about courses then Coursera and Udemy will be having much more cheap prices if we do talk about trading usually it cost $20-30 which is a far cry
on the amount that you would pay for just joining the group and following someones signals which doesnt even give out precise results.Majority of noobs do really end up on this kind of option where
they do believe that easy money exist without doing much hard work.They would only realize that they had done the wrong thing when they had been scammed or being just used by those
group to be part of their pump and dump and leave those joiners hanging on the air which is a usual stuff with these trading groups thats why just like been mentioned its just a garbage thing to consider.

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Look at the name itself Crypto Pump Island, which makes him to be a wise man. The easiest way to make money on crypto space is to create pump and dump group and the cheapest way to lose your capital is to join one.

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Why would pay if we can get it for free?

Because they think that if they joined to that paid trading group, they would have the opportunity to make a big profit because they see that group promises to share the accurate trading signal. That makes many people greedy and decides to join with the paid trading group without thinking about whether they will share the real signal or copy-paste from the other group. But if they can learn by themselves, I am sure that their profit will be big too because they can analyze the coin and buy it at the right time. But we can use their signal to be our guide to analyze more to find the time to enter the market.
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Trust me they are all scams. Even back in the stock markets day there were links on the Yahoo stock discussions all the time for these "millionaire stock trading guru's". Usually what happens is they either give signals in hindsight, signals way too late, or they give exit signal way too late.

Most of the time the traders there almost NEVER take the actual trade, they maybe take it on demo. What you will find is they will enter a trade at say "buy BTC at $10000" and BTC will go to $10500 and later back down to $10000, they will say "Took profit at $10500". If it went to $10600, they would say "Took profit at $10600", if it went to $10987, they would also say "Took profit at $10987" and that's how you know its a scam. When they tell you to get out is usually way too late.

Same with exiting losing trades. Say they "Buy BTC at $10000", then BTC crashes to $9000, they will usually say "Got out of trade at $10000" or "Took a small loss at $9999".

The reason they get away with this is because most people that follow these signals are usually at work, they don't follow real-time. If you follow real-time you will see that ALL the signals came way too late and impossible to profit off.

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October 08, 2020, 04:17:17 AM
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Trading groups will never pay anyone for free these are new techniques to scam them trading groups are very effective in getting new updated information  there is no profit margin here trading strategies and currency selection have many advantages. your own groups will benefit more from others in terms of profit there will be less risk to do market analysis.
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October 08, 2020, 04:22:30 AM
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I dont trust telegram groups most of people are just scam on telegram. Most of trading groups shows only profitable signals only. There are many paid trading groups and most of them shows 90% accuracy which is impossible. I suggest learn trading and invest.
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October 08, 2020, 05:04:00 AM
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I came accross this trading group on telegram they charge .06 btc to become a lifetime member, is anyone part of it ? are the trades any good ? Please dm me or reply let me know what you think



To be honest, I don't trust telegram signal group. And that one you are about to join has a huge membership fee.
Usually, those signal groups has $100 to join and you can upgrade your membership fee with additional $100. And don't just rely on those telegram groups. They are not 100% accurate and will not guarantee you profits. I mean, I myself did not gain from that tg signal geoup I had joined before.

If you wanna learn, there are available content, video tutorials and threads here in forum that may eventually help you to improve your trading skills.
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October 08, 2020, 05:10:27 AM
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There was an offering to me when I was starting in trading.

0.01 BTC / month
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0.3 BTC / Lifetime

I was amazed by his trading group when he was at free signals because most of my trades before came to the signals specially for those who had good calls. But because he turned into premium signal, I had doubt to invest with it. Therefore, I studied a lot in trading and never fell to bait of paid signals. I think they are just good in first signals but it might give you wrong calls when time comes. This pump paid trading are the toxic of the community for me, they are teaching individual traders to become lazy in learning and developing skills in trading.

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October 08, 2020, 01:01:33 PM
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Look at the name itself Crypto Pump Island, which makes him to be a wise man. The easiest way to make money on crypto space is to create pump and dump group and the cheapest way to lose your capital is to join one.
agree with you. paid trading group is nothing instead of the dump on you. they just trying to shill some shitcoin and after that dump on you. personally i dont like any trading pump and dump or paid group.
Without proper technical knowledge its not good to follow anyone trade.its very risky, also you may lost all of your capital in this way. so I would suggest you to learn technical analysis and do practise a lot.
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October 08, 2020, 01:30:24 PM
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did they offer other plan or starter pack for newbies ? because 0.06 btc is too much if you dont know how things work inside this group but 0.06 btc  is also a good price for a lifetime account if this group is proven to be geniune  . cheaper price than this will become queationable because a good service does not need to be cheap . trading with the help of expert people or people that share info from the inside can be powerful enough to make money.  you can recover the amount that you have paid for the memebership and you can also earn extra income for yourself depending on how long the group will last .
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October 08, 2020, 02:19:53 PM
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I came accross this trading group on telegram they charge .06 btc to become a lifetime member, is anyone part of it ? are the trades any good ? Please dm me or reply let me know what you think


I special and expensive advise, dont join the group cause they will cheat you in the end by using you and other followers to pump the price of their puppet coin so they can sell at profitable price while you are use as a prey. However, you can still make a successful trade by following whales movement through Binance features rather than rely your trading decision on a third party.

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October 08, 2020, 04:04:39 PM
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I came accross this trading group on telegram they charge .06 btc to become a lifetime member,
At the current rate, 0.06btc is over $650. That's a huge sum of money for anyone to pay just to belong to a signal providing group. I would rather fancy my chances taking risk with any of these "Farm" projects at their ICO stage or with any other DeFis instead of paying such as a registration fee to someone whose calls for trades may not even be accurate. As a newbie, some of these motivational speeches and assurances of success also caught my attention. But with time I got to know they were all empty promises. Believe me, you will be better off without such groups. Most of them aren't even traders, but signal marketers.

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October 08, 2020, 04:20:33 PM
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Do these group even worth joining these days? I dont look at trades charts for 24/7, but I havent seen pumps for a long time. Last time I saw artificial price growth was 2018. The year or crazy and easy money.

I might be wrong, inexperienced or just dont know where to look. Would be pleased to see if someone will share his experience with paid group.

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October 08, 2020, 05:55:35 PM
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Something free and paid I personally still feel suspicious so I will not join the group like that if I have to pay. It's different if it's free, at least I'm only willing to join the trading group on telegram which is free and that's good enough, at least once a week or once a month the admin gives an option to trade. Well, I guess it depends on yourself because you are going to do it yourself not someone else, so do something that you can handle the risk because for me, .06 btc is a lot of money because not everyone can have it.

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October 08, 2020, 08:10:46 PM
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Something free and paid I personally still feel suspicious so I will not join the group like that if I have to pay. It's different if it's free, at least I'm only willing to join the trading group on telegram which is free and that's good enough, at least once a week or once a month the admin gives an option to trade. Well, I guess it depends on yourself because you are going to do it yourself not someone else, so do something that you can handle the risk because for me, .06 btc is a lot of money because not everyone can have it.
Well if we are talking about P&D group since the OP is talking about the group name Crypto Pump Island, Taking up free membership would likely be more sketchy since it is expected that there would be a bunch of people waiting for the signal and the owner would literally take his own profit, Both paid and free, The winner of profit is always the owner and the one who is fast enough to act before others. You can do many things with the 0.06BTC, It would be a waste if you throw it up on a group like that, and I don't know if any people want to join in these kinds of groups with a high membership fee.
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October 08, 2020, 08:28:54 PM
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Something free and paid I personally still feel suspicious so I will not join the group like that if I have to pay. It's different if it's free, at least I'm only willing to join the trading group on telegram which is free and that's good enough, at least once a week or once a month the admin gives an option to trade. Well, I guess it depends on yourself because you are going to do it yourself not someone else, so do something that you can handle the risk because for me, .06 btc is a lot of money because not everyone can have it.
Well if we are talking about P&D group since the OP is talking about the group name Crypto Pump Island, Taking up free membership would likely be more sketchy since it is expected that there would be a bunch of people waiting for the signal and the owner would literally take his own profit, Both paid and free, The winner of profit is always the owner and the one who is fast enough to act before others. You can do many things with the 0.06BTC, It would be a waste if you throw it up on a group like that, and I don't know if any people want to join in these kinds of groups with a high membership fee.
If its free then it wont really poke out someones interest thats why its better to have those fees to make it look more realistic and convincing that signals inside of that group are indeed working
compared if you do have just a free signal group where people can freely follow without benefiting its owner but somewhat it can be used for manipulation such as shills and fuds.
From the name itself pump and dump, you cant really just touch this field without prior knowledge or risk management or else you would really be fucked up but if you do then its up
to your choice and embrace up the risk.Majority will say that you would lost money but actually there are still people who do make out with this one.

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October 08, 2020, 09:44:31 PM
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I came accross this trading group on telegram they charge .06 btc to become a lifetime member, is anyone part of it ? are the trades any good ? Please dm me or reply let me know what you think


You can learn to trade without joining them and without paying anything especially right now that there’s a lot of way to learn how to trade. I don’t participate on any pump and dump group especially that one who ask you to pay big amount of money. They can claim if that’s a good group for a newbie trader, but it can be a big trap as well so be careful.
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October 08, 2020, 10:05:48 PM
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I came accross this trading group on telegram they charge .06 btc to become a lifetime member, is anyone part of it ? are the trades any good ? Please dm me or reply let me know what you think

No need to look/find/search for a real experience out from that trading group.

From now on,  consider every trading group you will see offering like that is a CRAP.

There's no such thing as an accurate signal. Crypto is volatile. And seems that they are aggressive to make a profit as they asking for a 0.06BTC for the subscription.

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October 08, 2020, 10:59:47 PM
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I came accross this trading group on telegram they charge .06 btc to become a lifetime member, is anyone part of it ? are the trades any good ? Please dm me or reply let me know what you think


I haven't joined any paid trading group yet, but I know some are part and really joined for a membership. In my own opinion, I’d rather study on my own on how to read signals so I can gained knowledge and can trade crypto at any time. Crypto is volatile we don't know when prices are high and low, so it is also best not to rely on others. There’s no assurance to earn and some exist for a pump and dump giving the signal for their benefit.
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October 08, 2020, 11:51:47 PM
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I suggest not to join a paid trading group like in the opening post, let alone the charge of 0.06 BTC is too big in my opinion.
I've joined a paid trading group like that, but after walking a few months the group admin just left the group. Especially for
newbies who can't analyze the market yet, joining the trading group like in the opening post will only make their capital run out.

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October 09, 2020, 12:20:07 PM
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I suggest not to join a paid trading group like in the opening post, let alone the charge of 0.06 BTC is too big in my opinion.
I've joined a paid trading group like that, but after walking a few months the group admin just left the group. Especially for
newbies who can't analyze the market yet, joining the trading group like in the opening post will only make their capital run out.

Sends complaints and ask help to recover their losses is ridiculous. One thing we should have to keep in mind, doubling our investment without doing anytime is truly a Ponzi scheme.  The group is pretty obvious and I'm wondering why there are still people who got crazy to participate in this foolishness. I'm not only pointing to a newbie but to everyone, we let greediness controls us, we should have to act cautiously and invest only those we think reliable and can be trusted, nothing else.

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October 09, 2020, 01:17:29 PM
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None of those paid trading group are a legitimate one until you meet them face to face in real life .. knows the person that leads the group from the first impression to how they talk realistically or full of promises bull shit. That's how i make a judgment in this kind case.

It's hard to get a proof this way could work , that way could work .. sometimes in the end you'll feel get fooled , especially if things not work out as you wish. Nothing is really sure ... you can't really rely on this kind paid trading group to make profit, one thing is sure , you'll get disappointed.

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October 09, 2020, 03:25:21 PM
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Is that a pump and dump group or what? I don’t know if I’m going to trust that kind of group.
Moreover, have you checked how much 0.6BTC is worth as of today? That’s over $6,00 (but let’s put it on $5,00) I am not sure I am ready to pay that much to any group when I am not sure what follows next.

Maybe if they were doing a trial it would have been better, so that you get to give it a try and know if it’s worth before you join, and of course that’s if it’s not a pump and dump group, because if that’s what it is I will advise you to stay clear from it. Pump and dump groups are not worth it. Better look for something else and invest your money.
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October 09, 2020, 03:50:23 PM
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I came accross this trading group on telegram they charge .06 btc to become a lifetime member, is anyone part of it ? are the trades any good ? Please dm me or reply let me know what you think

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I do not want to individually call this group a scam but from my experience the number of groups I have joined in the past year most of them have been a scam machine and I strongly suggest never to trust any groups.

0.06 BTC for being a part of the group? Man I mean there are people who start their whole trading career with $500 and this group needs way more than just to join them and to give advice and signals, wow just wow.

They have 85k members but that does not change the fact that there can be paid telegram members and fake members plus this is a channel so you never can even check the members either if they are real or just all botted members.
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October 11, 2020, 09:38:58 AM
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I entered the trading paid when I was newbie in industry and I can say that my paid pump and dump groups had gave me profits before. However, because I need to cash out my money because I need to pursue my studies, I left the trading group. As of now, I just want to start trading again and make money in cryptocurrency. Paid trading group is good if it brings you profit and shit or a scam when it leads you to a great loss. So, better to watch out your profits when you are joining such group in trading.
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October 11, 2020, 12:16:22 PM
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I came accross this trading group on telegram they charge .06 btc to become a lifetime member, is anyone part of it ? are the trades any good ? Please dm me or reply let me know what you think


you were looking for pump and dump groups right? because I find it very difficult that out of nowhere you have run into this group of pump and dump, because there is another thread that you created asking a question about another group of pump and dump:

Crypto trading P&D groups

Hello guys,
I am a bit new to crypto currency in the trading word, i wanted to see if anyone had a trading call inner circle that is legit ? I know there is a few out there but not sure who to trust.


Much appreciation in advance !

no offense, but it looks like you are the owner of these two channels and came on this forum to disclose your channels. In case you do not own these two channels I advise you to use your money wisely, never be depending on a group of signals, always fight to be the one to trade with your knowledge

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October 11, 2020, 04:56:17 PM
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I do not think anyone can benefit from any such group, and I do not think any sensible trader will trust its signals.
I will give you the same advice if you want to do trading, learn about it yourself. Of course, it is not easy but you can. I doubt the group you have asked about,  because it promises to give 700% profit to people in 24 hours.
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October 11, 2020, 05:17:15 PM
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When a "pump" appears on its name, I can guarantee that this is a shit group. Dont waste your money on this group. Dont throw a single penny to them because you cant learn anything from them. They always make critical statement whenever they receive a huge profit but avoid saying about their loss. I know that it is hard to put some effort in learning trading. But if you seriously want to make money from this field, investing your time to learn is better than invest your money for signal group.

I have been in many signals group before trading by myself. They never admit they wrong and only I knew that I were wrong cause of trusting them too much
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October 11, 2020, 09:36:55 PM
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I do not think anyone can benefit from any such group, and I do not think any sensible trader will trust its signals.
I will give you the same advice if you want to do trading, learn about it yourself. Of course, it is not easy but you can. I doubt the group you have asked about,  because it promises to give 700% profit to people in 24 hours.

No, its not in 24 hours yet you can see that some of them are 2 days past or 3 days but somehow its still unbelievable for those numbers that had been given.Its never been an ideal thing to rely into these paid groups
because majority of them would really be just using up those joiners to be sucked out their money with their own benefit.Even in free groups which i would really take cautious step if you do engage on them.
Its not always been suggested to join up and you would really just basically wasting up your money and the worst you would really make up losses since these groups doesnt really give out something helpful.
They can give out signals but those are just mere speculations too. If they are really that profitable in real case then they wont really tend up to make a trading paid signal group and just simply
trade on their own and make money.

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October 12, 2020, 02:30:39 AM
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Problem by joining paid trading group sis giving late information when have to buy or sell, like what happen on Binance when some coin will list on their exchange market and up drastically although few second announce to public, its happen because they buy first or sell first and then they ask to member to buy or sell their coin, we can't trust 100% with paid trading group because they make us panic for buying or selling some coin. But when you joining paid group always update and check their news what have to do when coin going up on higher price never take risk to get moment for buying coin.

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October 12, 2020, 03:23:48 AM
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I came accross this trading group on telegram they charge .06 btc to become a lifetime member, is anyone part of it ? are the trades any good ? Please dm me or reply let me know what you think


I have no intention to join any trading group if its not free, and joining that means depending on them for your trading actions and that is not a good idea.

Trading group is fine as long as you guys shares your speculation about the market, but if it became a pump and dump group better to leave early as possible. That money is huge already and you can use it to learn trading on your own, so don't join and invest on yourself first than anything else, learn to trade on the right process.

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Problem by joining paid trading group sis giving late information when have to buy or sell, like what happen on Binance when some coin will list on their exchange market and up drastically although few second announce to public, its happen because they buy first or sell first and then they ask to member to buy or sell their coin, we can't trust 100% with paid trading group because they make us panic for buying or selling some coin. But when you joining paid group always update and check their news what have to do when coin going up on higher price never take risk to get moment for buying coin.

It's the risk that most of the time happened when joining to a such kind of a groups, tipsters already bags a huge amount of coins before telling their members to buy it making it looks realistic as the coin simply pumped up.

Everyone who are already aware with such business won't risk their money paying this so called experts, they mostly ruined your investment.

Because aside from the money that you've paid them, you also risking the
actual investment that you'll to use following their tips without knowing that
you are just feeding them more as they can sell their bag holds before sending
their tips.


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October 12, 2020, 04:36:12 AM
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I understand why paid trading groups are still in demand today, because several paid trading groups provide screenshots of their success.
So it's not only newbie who is interested, but some old investors are also interested in joining a paid trading group. But without realizing it,
only successful screenshots are shown, they don't show their failure when predicting the market. Even I have discover a paid trading group
that edited screenshots of their success. So my advice is to avoid joining a paid trading group, it's better to trade manually.


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I understand why paid trading groups are still in demand today, because several paid trading groups provide screenshots of their success.
So it's not only newbie who is interested, but some old investors are also interested in joining a paid trading group. But without realizing it,
only successful screenshots are shown, they don't show their failure when predicting the market. Even I have discover a paid trading group
that edited screenshots of their success. So my advice is to avoid joining a paid trading group, it's better to trade manually.
they only share screenshots of their trading successes, but they will not publish how much they lost. This is a strategy used to attract as many members as possible. Paid trading groups with lots of trading signals that will attract anyone to join them.

I also used to join a paid trading group. at first it looks convincing, but over time the signal given is not accurate and it is proven that the signal given is taken from another group. then the group owner just disappeared.

Better to trade yourself, learn technical analysis and fundamentals. it will be better and provide more useful knowledge.

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October 14, 2020, 11:27:00 PM
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I am not sure paid trading groups will satisfy my needs because I have paid once for crypto groups which takes the orders from other paid groups. The fee was less than 0.1 BTC but the shared tips worth to pay this amount. After 2017, the group management has closed the group for new members, and a few months later group has been deleted from Telegram. "Crypto Pump Island" is the first time I heard about, maybe you can ask for weekly membership to test it.

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I am not sure paid trading groups will satisfy my needs because I have paid once for crypto groups which takes the orders from other paid groups. The fee was less than 0.1 BTC but the shared tips worth to pay this amount. After 2017, the group management has closed the group for new members, and a few months later group has been deleted from Telegram. "Crypto Pump Island" is the first time I heard about, maybe you can ask for weekly membership to test it.
It is better not to try.
Well, it was clear to see that this Crypto Pump Island group has involved in many scam issues and I don't think we need to find it just to prove that they are worth trying.

This has been in question in the past year.
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October 15, 2020, 02:28:47 PM
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The registration fee is quite high even if it will be a lifetime membership, I don't think if there will be traders that are willing to risk their money just to be part of this group.

It will be worth only if the signals that are coming from that group are 100% correct but if they will only promise that they can provide like 80% correct trading signal information then it's up for the user if they are willing to gamble their money. But lets see if there is a good feedback coming from a rusted members here.
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October 15, 2020, 03:34:41 PM
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honestly i don't trust groups like that do they have free trial to test out what signals they are giving and where it came from? it seems those subscribers is pretty huge and might be composed of bots. i think you should ask them if they have trial or maybe if they have monthly subscription you can try it for one month just to test it out.

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October 15, 2020, 03:42:05 PM
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When you all will finally understand that all these exclusive paid groups that allegedly give insider information or trading signals are nothing more than manipulative technologies aimed at creating problems for you at the expense of your resources. I have not yet heard a single positive response about such groups, which would confirm that such services can be provided for a long time. Usually, even if initially you are given to earn money, then later they will still strip you naked and leave you without your money.
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October 17, 2020, 03:50:20 PM
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Have to be careful about any group that’s charging you to join them. If they are really as good why don’t they give you a trial,? a trial is always good to be given to first timers so that they understand if what they are going to is something that’s fit for them, and apart from that, it also helps to build trust between those are participating. They don’t just tell you to give them .06 BTC , what if you join and you don’t like it, your money will then be a waste?

It is not good. Judging from the comment section no one is part of this group and with the description that was given, you’re going to be joining a pump and dump group. Be careful of what you are getting into.
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Can you find me a paid group that shows their results without editing them? I'm sure 99% of these groups run on people's money and they dump your money on you to make more money to them. I had been in a group for BTC0.02 a month but not satisfied with their results because they edited their 'entry' posts and set it to lower prices which they don't give you, but edit to try to show that they gave an accurate signal.
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I don't recommend joining a paid trading group, because most of the paid trading groups only use members money for the benefit of
the group owner. If the owner of the paid trading group does have accurate signals, why share with others. The signal should be used
for itself. I have joined the paid trading group twice, and did not get the promised profit, and also I lost the capital that I had. We better
learn how to read price movements in the market, and trade manually. This will improve our trading skills, so we don't depend on other
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October 18, 2020, 10:57:00 PM
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Haven't bump into such and based on your statement having such fee of 0.06BTC is already a large amount to start with to become a lifetime member of the paid trading group that you have mentioned. It is duly not advisable to engage into such groups sprouting in telegram for you are not familiar on it and it would just get worst once you put yourself into such groups who obviously have an intention to lure newbies dealing with such schemes they have created just to attract people to join their group.

Have to be careful about any group that’s charging you to join them. If they are really as good why don’t they give you a trial,? a trial is always good to be given to first timers so that they understand if what they are going to is something that’s fit for them, and apart from that, it also helps to build trust between those are participating. They don’t just tell you to give them .06 BTC , what if you join and you don’t like it, your money will then be a waste?

This got a point of having a free trial but still that can be seen a trap just to get your trust and interest to join their group but there is no assurance that you will not be locked up into them making you no choice since you have already make believed that what you have experienced on free trial can still happen once you have paid for your membership fee to join their group.

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You have nothing to expect from these pump and dump group. Joining them and this group seems so hopeless and you are just helping them to survive. Such reviews that we have read is enough for us to know what is really their intent. Should we have to try just to know it more? It finds ridiculous then, and I don't think that it works.

It was an obvious scam group, I suggest to keep away from them and any similar groups. There is no easy money in trading nor someone can predict the market flows, that is a thing that we should have to think always.

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October 19, 2020, 02:35:18 AM
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Everyone can make profit from trading signal group, but not all signals from that trading signal can make profit, even the signal not accurate, and after that many members lost their money. It was very detrimental. And then have you getting profit after you joined that signal group?
For me, I won’t follow the paid group signals. I’m better off using my funds to trade and not using my money to pay for premium signal groups.
I am optimistic if we want to learn for trade in crypto, we will have trade science gradually, because to be an expert trader in crypto it takes a long time.

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October 19, 2020, 03:30:42 AM
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I don't recommend joining a paid trading group, because most of the paid trading groups only use members money for the benefit of
the group owner.

People should be aware of this fact, the benefactors of every paid signal groups are the one who's behind it, they are being compensated from the fees and from the entire bagholds that they have while selling their tips. Knowing that they already have a huge numbers of assets before they provide the signal.

If the owner of the paid trading group does have accurate signals, why share with others. The signal should be used
for itself.

If it's for real, then he will continuously use his knowledge to keep being compensated from what he knows, he don't need to share anything as it will only cause him being caught and being played by big whales and lose his investment.


I have joined the paid trading group twice, and did not get the promised profit, and also I lost the capital that I had. We better
learn how to read price movements in the market, and trade manually. This will improve our trading skills, so we don't depend on other
people's signals.

Learning will keep you guarded, everything around the market always have a good patterns to learn to favor your investment, instead of wasting your money paying, much better to learn it by yourself and take good care of your investment.
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October 19, 2020, 04:44:53 AM
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Haven't bump into such and based on your statement having such fee of 0.06BTC is already a large amount to start with to become a lifetime member of the paid trading group that you have mentioned. It is duly not advisable to engage into such groups sprouting in telegram for you are not familiar on it and it would just get worst once you put yourself into such groups who obviously have an intention to lure newbies dealing with such schemes they have created just to attract people to join their group.

I have also asked about entering into premium trading signals but I was quite surprised to have to pay a deposit with a large amount of money I think this is like the scheme they employ for those who want to join.
What about newbies who are just learning to trade maybe they will enter into the signal and not necessarily it will produce because market predictions are difficult to predict maybe they just make a big pump and dump they make, maybe it could be like that, hmm I'm sure beginners still some are included in this scheme.

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October 20, 2020, 02:43:39 PM
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None of those paid trading group are a legitimate one until you meet them face to face in real life .. knows the person that leads the group from the first impression to how they talk realistically or full of promises bull shit. That's how i make a judgment in this kind case.
I would say maybe not face to face but at least I won't trust one who cannot show verifiable record of successful trading or price prediction with proofs. I mean yeah the group owner may remain silent as long as he or his team provides good data and better price prediction than other groups.

It's hard to get a proof this way could work , that way could work .. sometimes in the end you'll feel get fooled , especially if things not work out as you wish. Nothing is really sure ... you can't really rely on this kind paid trading group to make profit, one thing is sure , you'll get disappointed.
And people also need to think if a group or team actually had such accurate predictions then they would have had a huge group of investors by now and they won't need to sell signals or price predictions like that.

In simple words a successful trader would never ask for money if he actually has ability to read the market and predict the swing. One who is new might ask for money initially as they need some time to build their own capital so maybe such traders exist but really hard to know who is predicting by reading charts and who is actually making blind predictions.

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October 21, 2020, 09:54:35 AM
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You have nothing to expect from these pump and dump group. Joining them and this group seems so hopeless and you are just helping them to survive. Such reviews that we have read is enough for us to know what is really their intent. Should we have to try just to know it more? It finds ridiculous then, and I don't think that it works.

It was an obvious scam group, I suggest to keep away from them and any similar groups. There is no easy money in trading nor someone can predict the market flows, that is a thing that we should have to think always.
Greedy people will likely fall this kind of attraction and I don't want to wonder they are also the first to raise their hand and shout their complaints.

Scam groups and their activities will have to survive because there are a lot of people feeding them. If we all work together fighting this kind of group, keeping away from them, we gonna stop them.

And it doesn't give me a reason as well to be in with them, I don't think if there is someone who will tell their story.

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