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October 10, 2020, 10:30:13 AM
Last edit: February 28, 2021, 04:41:38 PM by BountyDetective
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⚪️ Hello to everyone,

To date, we did not post anything in this forum except the bounties we managed. We have been silent and so patient about the slanders about us. We had been focused on our job and did our best to manage the bounties we were hosting.

We have enough proof and arguments for some accusations about us, mostly spread by competitor bounty managers or their friends. We will acknowledge the facts in detail with several proofs.

We are okay with the competition. Already any business, not having competitors, has no chance to improve itself. However, unfair competition should not be tolerated; slanders should not damage people's business. The crypto community is on the same boat, especially honest and honorable people in this forum, and the industry should stay against these kinds of hateful and slanderer people for a securer industry.

It will be a long post, but instead of publishing several topics, we would prefer to share everything in the same thread. We will publish six topics in this thread:


⚪️ Topic 1) Summary of the Bounties Managed by Bounty Detective

We have managed 40 bounties within one year. 23 of those bounty rewards have successfully been distributed. 4 bounties are still ongoing, one bounty distribution is ongoing and 5 bounties are waiting for the distribution deadline. From 39 projects, 5 projects shutted-down, only Kingcasino and Excore involved an exit scam.

Thus, the claims by some people saying, "Most of the Bounty Detective's bounties are not distributed" is not valid; it is vice versa. Most of our bounties have been distributed and the tokens/coins have value.

Below you can see the project details and today's value of the bounty rewards managed by Bounty Detective:


DISTRIBUTED BOUNTIES

✔️ 1) HEX Bounty

  02.11.2020 Value: ~$660,000

  Total Reward: 50,000,000 HEX

  Listed Exchanges: Hotbit, BitMart , Uniswap, etc.

✔️ 2) HackenAI Bounty

  02.11.2020 Value: ~$23,242

  Total Reward: 1,000,000 HAI

  Listed Exchanges: Oceanex, Bitrue, Uniswap, BitMart.

✔️ 3) ARCS Bounty

  02.11.2020 Value: ~$25,500

  Total Reward: 85,000 ARX

  Listed Exchanges: KuCoin, ProBit.

 ✔️ 4) Ludena Protocol Bounty

  02.11.2020 Value: ~9300$

  Total Reward: 24 ETH

✔️ 5) EarnBet Bounty

  02.11.2020 Value: ~8300$

  Total Reward: 35,000 XRP

✔️ 6) Gaimin Bounty

  Total Reward: 10,000,000 GMRX

  Listed Exchanges: Planned to be listed on Probit

✔️7) IOI Game Bounty

  02.11.2020 Value: ~$4000

  Total Reward: 160,000 TRX

  Note: 10,000 TRX has been distributed by Bounty Detective Team as an extra.

✔️ 8) HOM Token Bounty

  Total Reward: 1,280,000 HOMT

  Listed Exchanges: Probit


✔️ 9) Optimus Bounty

  Total Reward: 900,000,000 OPTX

  Listed Exchanges: Optimus.


✔️ 10) AMZ Coin Bounty

   02.11.2020 Value: ~$450,000

   Total Reward: 3,500,000 AMZ

   Listed Exchanges: Collubus, Alcor, Evodex

✔️ 11) DACX Bounty

  Total Reward: 2,500,000 DACX

  Listed Exchanges: Not listed yet.

✔️ 12) SGC Coin Bounty

  Total Reward: 300,000 SGC
  Listed Exchanges: Not listed yet.

✔️ 13) Crypto Commonwealth Bounty

  Total Reward: 1,363,000 CBND

  Listed Exchanges: Not listed yet.

✔️ 14) TerraCredit Bounty

  02.11.2020 value: ~$2700

  Total Reward: 750,000 CREDIT

  Listed Exchanges: Hotbit, Bitforex, CREX24, Terrabit, Catex

✔️ 15) Candela Coin Bounty

  Total Reward: 4,000,000 CLA

  Listed Exchanges: Vindax

 ✔️ 16) Invizion Bounty

   Total Reward: 100,000 NVZN
  
   Listed Exchanges: Vindax

✔️ 17) Bounty Detective BNB Bounty

  Total Reward: $5000 worth of BNB

  Listed Exchanges: Binance, P2PB2B, WhiteBIT, HitBTC, Bilaxy

✔️ 18)  Tozex Bounty

  Total Reward: 100,000 TOZ

✔️ 19)  HEX Bounty Round 2

  Total Reward: $18000 worth of HEX

  Listed Exchanges: BitMart, Hotbit, Uniswap, HitBTC

✔️ 20)  Student Coin

  Total Reward: 4,850,000 STC

  Listed Exchanges: Uniswap, Cointiger

✔️ 21)  MeleCoin Bounty

  Total Reward: 28571 MLC

  Listed Exchanges: P2Pb2b

✔️ 22)  Gaimin Bounty Round 2

  Total Reward: 200,000 GMRX

  Listed Exchanges: Planned to be listed on Probit


 ✔️ 23) CorionX Bounty 31.12.2020

 Total Reward: 5,500,000 CORX

  Listed Exchanges: Probit, Bitmart, Uniswap


✔️ 24) BCMC Bounty

 Total Reward: 5,000,000 BCMC

  Listed Exchanges: P2PB2B, Tokpie


Distribution Ongoing:

  1) 3WM Bounty (2,000,000 3WM)


Awaiting Distribution Deadline:



1) Juiice Bounty 2021 (1,250,000,000 JUI)
2) Ezystayz Bounty (Waiting for the team's update) (30,000,000 EZY)
3) Bintex Bounty (333,333 BNTX)
4) MoonDeFi Bounty
5) Smarts Finance Bounty

Ongoing Bounties

1) Cyclops Finance Bounty (Escrowed)
2) CCM Bounty (Escrowed)
3) BeforeCoinMarketCap (Escrowed)
4) Prasaga Bounty



As a summary, the total current value of the above listed tokens/coins is over $1,000,000 excluding the ones that have not been listed yet, pending for distribution and not having enough volume on the exchanges yet. The total value is calculated regarding 2nd of November, 2020 exchange prices.

If we suppose the 5 pending bounties distributed (Already 2 of them are guaranteed by Bounty Detective), our success ratio will be almost %80. We don't think anyone having even one neuron will say, "Most of the Bounty Detective projects haven't been distributed."

Note: Blobflow, 1st Trade, and COI were not scam projects, they were crypto start-ups, which did not succeed and failed their ICOs, so they shut-down the project. For ICOs and IEOs shutting down a project because of not collecting enough funds is just normal. Anyone calling a project that has refunded all of the collected funds the project as a scam is amateurs of crypto or malignant, and their word has no value.

Besides, every bounty participant has to accept the risk of working for some tokens/coins that may not have any future value.



⚪️ Topic 2) ClipX Bounty


As the majority of our followers know, Bounty Detective is a subsidiary of Airdrop Detective.

As the Airdrop Detective team, we have been researching and evaluating almost all of the crypto projects for the last three years. We have evaluated tens of thousands of projects over the previous three years. Our two employees' only duty is to review projects daily.


Thus, of course, we have researched the ClipX project in detail regarding several criteria, like all of the projects we deal with.

ClipX is a registered company in Germany with 25k€ initial shares. We have researched their project, their team, token sale details, whitepaper, plagiarism verification, company details, roadmap, social media, and several extra controls. Apart from all this, one of our developers knows the CEO from Germany.

Anyone can check their company details by this link, including their official address: https://www.northdata.de/clipX+GmbH,+Regensburg/HRB+17069

They refunded the small amount of the raised funds, you can see their contract here: https://etherscan.io/token/0x213fbee1394b460eed9d1f87f0066c4ca5b85cea

In Germany, involving a scam is not that easy, and if the ClipX team did so, they would be in big trouble. Furthermore, they used IDnow Gmbh (idnow.io) for KYC verification, a trustworthy company that is live for six years. ClipX CEO claims that they have deleted all of the KYC information, and if anyone has proof for a reverse situation, they can share it with us, so we will also support the victims with our lawyers. To date, we did not get any complaints about that issue. Furthermore, we never recommended people to pass KYC for the ClipX bounty, and clearly warned people passing the KYC for this kind of situation would be their own risk.


The ClipX CEO did not mention that KYC is required for the bounty like the airdrop managed by them. So we did not add the KYC requirement to the bounty. (Proof #1)

Still, we have rigorously warned the CEO many times, and he told us KYC is legally required. We even talked harshly with him and threatened him to ensure he does not do anything wrong with the passports.  (Proof #2)

We also spoke harshly with him because he deleted his social media and told him that behavior might cause people to worry. (Proof #3)

After we checked the previous conversations, we noticed that the CEO asked us for the bounty list to distribute the rewards on the 7th of September, 2020. We required him ten days to finalize the list.  (Proof #4)

After the project announced the shut-down, we insisted on giving some rewards to the community to compensate for their time loss, but he did not accept it. Also, we accused their CEO of collecting the KYC information after the project was canceled. However, he told us they decided to shut down the project after their final token sale phase on the 15th of 2020, and they collected the KYC information before their shut-down decision. (Proof #5)


Note: A shut-down project, which refunded every investor, is not an exit scam. Too many projects could not achieve their objective in harsh market conditions. In business life, it is the same. Many companies can't succeed in business and wind up the company. Calling all of those companies as a scam is amateurish or not fair. To date, we have not witnessed any scam proof by them. Although they did wrong not to inform us about KYC for the bounty, it is not proof of being a scam project. Several times, we talked to their CEO and asked all questions on our mind, and they replied to them reasonably.

By the way, we only charged a symbolic fee for managing the ClipX bounty. We accepted that offer to bring the community an extra bounty.

To conclude, we did our best again to protect our community's rights, as we have done several times before. (More proofs on topic 4)



⚪️ Topic 3) KingCasino Bounty

On February 24, 2020, our team researched the KingCasino project and gave a negative rating for them. (Proof #1)

After a while, KingCasino had first contacted us on March 2, 2020, we have seen some improvements in their project, our co-founder charged the fee, but after our quality team's warning, we decided to refund them.  (Proof #2)

Steven asked the reasons for refusing to work with them, and our co-founder told it with reasons. He showed their IEO deal with P2pb2b. (Proof #3, Proof #4, Proof #5)

He then sent their license from Gaming Curacao, but our quality team still required extra days for further research. (Proof #6, Proof  #7, Proof #8, Proof #9)

Our co-founder still did not reply to them properly. On those days, other services were working with them or begging to work with them. (Proof #10, Proof #11, Proof #12)

However, the KingCasino team did not stop contacting us, and from March 9 to March 18 he wrote to us regularly and every time they sent documents/details about their project.  (Proof #13, Proof #14, Proof #15, Proof #16)

On March 24 he asked us again, and we also refused to work with them. (Proof #17)

On March 26 their other teammate contacted us, but we again refused them. (Proof #18, Proof #19, Proof #20)

After ten days, Steven informed us their platform is live. However, we required three more days.

As everyone can see in the screenshots, that conversation took almost 40 days, and we refused them several times.

After their further improvements our team did some more research, and at the latest, we accepted their offer. Because:

a) They had a license from Gaming Curacao
b) They completed the IEO deal with two medium-sized exchanges.
c) They had a working product, making it difficult and illogical for an exit scam.
d) They published the team's LinkedIn profiles, and some of their team members had high-quality profiles with good connections.
e) They were ready to give us the reward tokens as an escrow, and the bounty reward pool was better than average.

Many people know the story when all is said and done; they involved an exit scam and aggrieved the community and us. They have also scammed us; they never paid most of our service fee.

As everyone can see, we did elaborative research and due diligence about that project. However, due to reasons beyond our control, the project involved an exit scam.

The goal should be not to promote scam projects purposely; otherwise, these kinds of unluckiness are just typical in business. The point should be to minimize the risk. In crypto, it is not possible to %100 avoid scam projects.

Because of our team's attention and detailed evaluations, Bounty Detective's project success ratio is faraway better in comparison with most other bounty managers. (Please go to topic 3 for details)






⚪️ Topic 4) The Legitimacy and Honesty of Airdrop Detective and its Partners.

As we told in previous topics, we do research most of the projects daily, even the scam ones. We do additional research and due diligence for the projects which we are about to deal with.

Hundreds of projects contact us every month, and many of them are ready to work with us. However, we reject most of those job offers because they don't match our criteria. To date, we have refused thousands of those kinds of proposals. We have refunded too many projects after we detected some problems before beginning to work with them:

 
Proof #1, Proof #2, Proof #3, Proof #4, Proof #5, Proof #6, Proof #7, Proof #8, Proof #9, Proofs #10, Proof #11, Proof #12, Proof #13, Proof #14, Proof #15, Proof #16, Proof #17, Proof #18, Proof #19, Proof #20, Proof #21, Proof #22, Proofs #23, Proof #24, Proofs #25, Proof #26, Proof #27, Proof #28, Proof #29, Proof #30, Proof #31, Proof #32, Proof #33

We can provide hundreds of more screenshots similar to these kinds of conversations. Untrustworthy people don't do that. They take the money without any due diligence.

Unfortunately, we see those project airdrops or bounties managed/promoted by other platforms after we refuse those kinds of projects ready to pay us. We have observed that most airdrop and bounty platforms don't take seriously the legitimacy of the projects; they only care about money.

Interestingly, some jealous competitors or their briber guys might claim the most careful airdrop and bounty platform not doing due diligence. If we already refuse at least %90 of the paid job offers, how can some people claim we accept every job proposal? Is it how Bitcointalk works? "Mud Sticks"

Airdrop Detective and its partner platforms have completed thousands of deals including OKEx exchange, Charlie Lee, WAVES, Atomic Wallet, Richard Heart, etc. We are still in contact with several top projects worldwide.

No one has flagged us for being untrustworthy except our previous employee, xenon131, who we fired from the Korean Translation job because he was trying to pull strings for himself. Indeed, we did not let it, and we treated him equally, which made him crazy. The red trust that the guy gave to us is for a personal issue, which can't be acceptable for Bitcointalk's process.

Please read the fifth topic for the proofs.


⚪️Topic 5) Some legendary and hero accounts on the forum abusing their ranks for personal benefits and threatening people.

Assertion: Bounty Detective is not trustworthy; they left in the lurch the bunch of Bitcointalk users. You can see the profile of the guy claiming this because we fired him from bounty translation job: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1037701

As the majority of our followers know, that kind of assertion is ridiculous. Please see some examples of how we support our community below:

1) We advised TerraCredit CEO to triple the bounty rewards. (#Proof 1)
2) We added 10K from our pocket to the IOI bounty.  (#Proof 2)
3) We advised the ARCS team to distribute the rewards earlier than usual. (#Proof 3)
4) We argued with the COMM CEO to speed up the bounty distribution. (#Proof 4)
5) We discussed with the AMZ admin about not reducing the promised bounty rewards and avoiding the community to be damaged. (#Proof 5, #Proof 6) After our pressure, their CEO published this post: t.me/amzcoinofficial/21859
6) We advised the Earnbet team to increase bounty rewards from 5000 XRP to 7000 XRP (#Proof 7) + http://t.me/BountyDetective/185664
7) Our managers are almost online 7/24 and respond to people's questions kindly. We don't use bots in our group, not even prevent spam bots.
8) We escrowed many bounties to protect the community's rights. We spent more than 7 ETH for only ARX bounty distribution's tx costs from our pocket because of the significantly increased transaction fees. However, we still kept our promise and completed the distribution.
9) We introduced the complaint form system, which protected the community's rights more than usual.
10) We discussed with the SGC CEO several times about the distribution of the community rewards. (#Proof 8)
11) We pushed the Ezystayz team for the distribution several times. (#Proof 9)


Of course, we can count too many more topics about how we care about our followers and never leave them alone.

So why did that person give us a negative trust?

Because of his personal problems with us, not because he has any proof of our untrustworthiness or cares about the bounty hunters. He is the one who can't be trusted (will be proven on this topic)

Recently, our previous Korean translator stopped doing translations for a while because of his works, and the guy who gave us a negative trust applied for a Korean translation job.

He has participated in some of our bounties and translated a few whitepapers. He said: Bounty Detective's honesty is respected, hats off, your work is appreciable (#Proof 1). He was saying good things about us and praising us (#Proof 2)

However, our team was not happy with him interfering in our job and trying to manage us. He pushed us to distribute his reward earlier because he claimed social media participants sell the tokens' mass. We disagree with it. We have seen too many social media participants holding their awards for a long-time.

In our view, social media bounty participants and translators do not have a difference, and we can't give preferential treatment to any of our bounty hunters. Everyone is doing their jobs regarding their abilities and opportunities. (#Proof 3 - https://i.imgur.com/bQoMnFV.png and #Proof 4 - https://i.imgur.com/lTK6gPF.png)

His spamming to us never ended, and asked the same questions already replied in the group. How can we respond to every question from the DM? If we do so, who will manage the bounties? Why does this guy feel that we have to answer his questions from the DM? What is his privilege? Because he has a "hero rank," which he can abuse?

We have too many hero and legendary bounty participants. Most of them are respectful and understanding, but a few guys like him never let us do our job.

After a while, he began to spam our founder. The founder warned him that the account is not a support account several times and told him to wait as everyone does. And he was right; the founder account is for managing the team and talking to the projects' team, not for replying "Sir Xenon"'s never-ending same questions. He was not respectful, and he was trying to provoke him.

He did not stop, and at the latest, he began to praise another bounty manager. Then our founder told him to go and work with him, he fired him from the translation job, and that guy began to racist discourses, and our founder blocked him. (#Proof 5, Proof #6, Proof #7, Proof #8, Proof #9, Proof #10, #Proof 11)

We will have several questions to the slanderer:

1) If managing the bounty of a canceled project is a reason for being untrustworthy, why did you apply for a job in Bounty Detective? Before your application, we already had managed bounties of 3 canceled projects. Did ready money allure you? Because you are so "honest" any you take the community seriously, you would never participate in any of our bounties.

2) Why did you participate in Tozex, TerraCredit, HOMT, 3WM, ARCS bounties?

3) If you give negative trust to a bounty manager for managing a canceled project's bounty, why did you not do the same for that bounty manager, whom you praised to our founder? As we all know, he was bounty manager of much more shut-down and exit scam projects than Bounty Detective.

Note: Our problem is not that bounty manager or any other bounty manager. Our point is the inconsistency of this guy.

4) Why did you praise us several times? Why did you apply for a job from untrustworthy people? Is your honor not more valuable than money?  

5) If we were untrustworthy, why did we not disappear with $200K worth of HEX, and we distributed it fairly and transparently? For a bounty management platform, that money can't be earnt even in 10 years. Why did we distribute ARX (~20K), 150K  IOI (150K TRX, Ludena 24 ETH rewards equitably?

6) If we were untrustworthy, how would those projects commend hundreds of thousands of USD worth of tokens/coins to us, which is equal to real money?

7) If we were untrustworthy, why did we reject hundreds of paid promotions? (Topic 4)

8) Did you realize that we are untrustworthy right after we fired you because of your hate speech, racism, and spamming? Did you realize it after getting payment for ARX bounty ?

⚪️ Also, we have a question for the person who started a thread about the ClipX project and us. Can you tell us who are the trusted bounty managers? Is their success ratio better than ours? (Please see topic 3)

If so, please give their names, do a favor to the bounty hunters so that they will benefit from the "trusted bounty managers." Also, our team will participate in those bounties too.

As we mentioned on topic 3 in only one year, the community earned more than $400,000 from the bounties managed by us. That amount doesn't include the ones which is pending for distribution, which is distributed but not listed on any exchange yet.

Edit: Another proof about the mentioned gangs' unfair and abused trust feedback:

https://imgur.com/TD72QGF

Both guys' comments about the negative trusts are copy/paste. They don't even read anything and spend a few minutes to write a separate comment about negative trust. What kind of fair and objective trust system is this? Will not Bitcointalk moderators do anything about these unjustnesses in this forum?


⚪️ Topic 6) Our Answers to the inaccurate feedbacks about us on Bitcointalk

a) Shef198911  2020-09-20  A lot of fraudulent projects that are promoted, there are no payments that they promise as " guaranteed payments"

Answer: From the 28 bounties we managed, only Kingcasino was an exit scam. We don't know how you call it "a lot."

Bounty Detective's all guaranteed airdrop rewards have been successfully distributed. Only the ones which are still ongoing or have a deadline are pending. Only KingCasino bounty rewards are not distributed because those tokens have no value, and most of the community did not demand those tokens already.

Besides, trusting the words of a person who is selling merits equal to scamming is not the best option. We are sure that a merit seller person can also be paid by others to give this feedback about us.

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b) Paranosya 2020-08-28 Promotion of Scam projects: King Casino, BLOBFLOW, 1st Trade, CERVIERO, CO-Initiative. But by a strange coincidence, no one notices this, although ordinary users who try to run bounty campaigns and immediately give a red trust for the promotion of Scam projects!

Answer: As mentioned on our main thread's topic 5, we want to inform the crypto sector people about the difference between an exit scam and a shut-down project. We will not teach you what a scam is because you are already an expert in the scam, as we can see in your profile.

Scam projects collect the funds and abandon the project without refunding the people. Shut-down projects refund people and stop the project. If a project can't reach its aimed funds (soft-cap), they stop the project. No one can blame anyone for this kind of situation. Because not achieving the desired funds and targets are always within the bounds of possibility in crypto projects. Anyone not knowing this fact should already study this sector before blaming others. The ones who know this fact but trying to manipulate people are immoralists, and we would prefer newbies to immoralists.

A shut-down project, which refunded every investor, is not an exit scam. Too many projects could not achieve their objective in harsh market conditions. In business life, it is the same. Many companies can't succeed in business and wind up the company. Calling all of those companies as a scam is amateurish or not fair.

Therefore, BlobFlow, 1st Trade, Cerviero, CO-Initiative are not scam projects. They are shut-down projects, not scam ones.

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c) Shumadan 2020-09-05  Speculates and sells ARX tokens, which must be paid to bounty hunters. By walking the token in the etherscan, it is absolutely obvious how it covers its tracks, starting tokens on the exchange and withdrawing them to other wallets, connecting tokens through two wallets and starting them on the exchange, that is, it confuses the tracks! Also, this Manager held a lot of scam bounties , for which no one gave him a red trust for unknown reasons!

Answer:

Are we speculating 20.000.000.000 ARX total supply with only 85,000 ARX?

Also, where we sold those tokens? If we sold the tokens, how did everyone get their rewards? If you mean we trade with those tokens and make a profit, why would we do it? What if we make a loss? Besides, can't we already buy and sell ARX with our own funds, if we want?

We got 85,000 ARX from the ARCS team, and distributed above 83600. During the distribution our team has noticed some fake accounts, so they were eliminated. We will refund the 1400 ARX to the ARCS team.

In the Ethereum network, none of the transactions can be hidden, even if it is sent to the exchanges. All of the rewards have been distributed from 2 wallets, which already everyone could check:

If you don't know how to check the transactions, our team is ready to educate you.

https://etherscan.io/address/0x9d39497928671c4abb1a56a31c4e717be51fc796
https://etherscan.io/address/0x01cb072b318b19441d3eeb64e68d5a92c68b9388


⚪️ Conclusion:

In our opinion, abusing Bitcointalk's opportunities and ranks for slandering people, manipulating the forum users for personal benefits, giving negative trust without concrete proof, threatening businesses, racism, etc. would not be tolerated on this forum.

We, crypto enthusiasts, are all on the same boat, and we should not let people misuse this forum. It is a community platform and belongs to all of us. As long as these kinds of people misemploy their rank to threaten others and damage people's business unfairly, too many legit and honest people will suffer.

Even if we get hundreds of negative trusts because we don't bow to pressure, don't let racism, don't give preferential treatment to anyone, etc. nothing will change, and we will continue to work hard and honestly.

In any case, these kinds of malignant attempts will not stop us. We are sure of our honesty and transparency; we are not dirty, like many people trying to discredit us, so we have nothing to lose. We will be in the industry as long as we want. We have thousands of loyal followers who believe in our honesty, experience, and goodwill. Our supporters are much more than our enemies. We will not give up and continue managing the bounties in our way, which is appreciated by the majority of our followers.

We are sure that the reasonable and fair Bitcointalk moderators will fix this issue and punish this slanderer. Otherwise, we can even run a bounty from a Telegram bot, another forum, a website, even on a Telegram group.

Finally, We want to inform the newbie people in the sector about the difference between an exit scam and a shut-down project.

Scam projects collect the funds and abandon the project without refunding the people. Shut-down projects refund people and stop the project according to hoyle.

If a project can't reach its aimed funds (usually soft-cap), they stop the project. No one can blame anyone for this scenario. Because not achieving the desired funds and targets are always within the bounds of possibility in crypto projects.

Anyone not knowing this fact should study this sector before blaming others. The ones who know this fact but trying to manipulate people are immoralists, and we would prefer newbies to immoralists. As we said hundreds of times before, we don't force anyone to participate in the campaigns we manage. Everyone should do their own research and take their risk before participating in any airdrop or bounty. It is weird people accepting this risk but still complaining if the project fails. We can minimize failed or scam projects by doing several kinds of research, as we are already doing, but we can't %100 avoid it.

Thus, a shut-down project and a scam project are entirely different. Too many projects could not achieve their objective in harsh market conditions. In business life, it is the same. Many companies can't succeed in business and wind up the company. Calling all of those companies as a scam is amateurish or not fair.

We want to thank everyone who spent their time and read this thread.

Kind Regards,

Bounty Detective Team


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Bounty detective has done successfully many projects in the last one year. Maximum bounties they managed has been distributed payments to the bounty hunters where most of the other bounties has been cheated managed by others in the last 1.5 year. Actually bounty detective has 24 hours support team, when i face any problem like stake missing, or other problems and i knock them in telegram, they immediately solved the problems. I haven't seen such active team before here. When i observed that Clipx team wanted kyc after bounty ended, bounty detective team pinned message in the telegram for the bounty hunters that they didn't want kyc after bounty ended and protested to the Clipx team for bounty hunters. Hence they are not liable for kyc what Clipx team did. I hope bounty detective will manage bounties in the future with honesty and more cautious than before.
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October 10, 2020, 11:42:04 AM
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well you have said it all, and i sympathized with you coupled with the pressure which people are giving you presently as much as i know you have ran many successful project even they got listed in CMC and other reputable trading platform. so i m one of your supporter who love doing your projects. one thing in life is that you most have a competitor in the industry so you have to stand firm to beat all other people as they are trying to bring you down knowing that you have gain alot of ground in the industry so don't panic as we your supporters knows your credibility, capability and integrity so keep doing your job and push harder without looking at the physical challenges.
Believe on your hustle and trust your creator who gave you such wonderful opportunity to be among of the living irrespective of the world turbulence yet you still succeed.

thank you sir
Love you.

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October 10, 2020, 11:58:27 AM
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I'm just seeing the negative trust and believe me, its quite surprising. Before ever I joined bounty hunting, I have seen the injustice in the system and taken note of Bounty platforms that help to carry out this injustice. BountyDetectives is one platform I have come to see as the best both in integrity and delivering on their promises. To rate the BountyDetectives platform bad just because of a bounty campaign that went bad is really not fair. The managers there are also human and can in sometimes run into the bad hands who are bent on using others to their advantage.

As stated already, BountyDetectives has conducted a lot of successful bounties from solid projects and hunters got paid. It will be fair if other DT members also look into the case and rectify this.

As for me, I will keep supporting BountyDetectives as they are number 1 bounty platform I feel comfortable participating in their bounties, knowingly fully well they work with integrity and fairness. Just keep up the good work and know that the competition in this space is quite tough but the strong survives.
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October 10, 2020, 12:01:52 PM
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Most of the people who have been around the space for a long period of time clearly understand all of these things you are talking about. However, the newbies will not entirely see reasons with you until the explanations gets repeatedly resounded in their ears. I noticed that bounty campaign managers can not function beyond the terms stated by the project team that contracted them, and bounty hunters always have their preferences and those aren't within the confines of the campaign manager and when the term changes, hunters always complain too.

Bottom line is, hunters should understand that, although the campaign manager tries to ensure that they get their rewards, he is not the team as he was only contracted to manage the campaign and still is under their control and in most cases does not directly have access to the rewards of the hunters.

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October 10, 2020, 12:06:46 PM
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Let me support you. I often check your bounty companies for alternative accounts. And as it was once said here that the problem of cheating is not in farming, but in those managers who allow it.

So the rules of the companies of this manager do not allow fraud on the part of users. And this is one of the good indicators. If we talk specifically about managers who conduct bounties paid with different tokens, this manager is the most popular today and deserves a good reputation.

If bounty companies require KYC verification, people themselves must have their heads on their shoulders and decide for themselves what to do with their data.

I did not follow all the details of all the bounty campaigns carried out by this manager, but if you believe today's words of the manager, he leads them quite successfully. And in this case, bounty hunters should remember all those bounties that lasted for half a year in 2018-2019, and in the end, were not paid.
Participation in the bounty is the choice of the people themselves, no one forces them to do it.

As for the Shef198911 review, you shouldn't pay attention to it. He himself narrowly escaped the account painting for his offer to sell merit. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5105163.msg55065953#msg55065953
For anyone interested, you can check his story using social media.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5105163.msg55066795#msg55066795
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October 10, 2020, 12:25:51 PM
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I have just a few words that i can say the words when i was new just Bounty Dtective was the platform who completely guide me to learn how to earn from bounties as you can see now its the most trusted platform ever in my case.

Just listen that i have no words to say THANKS to that team i have earned 150+ $ in my first bounty which was from HEX and much more from ARCS .
Now i am earning from other platforms as well but i can join a new bounty from Bounty detective with close eyes this is my trust on them.
I have proof for that just search any Campign in Terra Credit , Candela or any other i will be in Top 10 first participants in bounty .
I can say only its your own decisions to trust them but never creat fake and spamming words in Competition compete by Work not by words

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October 10, 2020, 12:35:20 PM
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Well, I read this thread from A to Z. First of all, talking racist words is not acceptable, and should be punished. I know Bounty Detective and Airdrop Detective for a long time. I even did business with them. I did not have any problem, even if I paid all payment in advance.
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October 10, 2020, 12:47:02 PM
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Bounty Detective is the largest and best bounty service provider I have ever found, some managed projects always distribute their rewards, they have professional people and provide a very active discussion. Success for Bounty Detective.
Keep giving everyone the confidence to adopt he crypto
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I am very greatful to have the most successful bounty community like Bounty Detective Team. When many scam projects have disappointed a lots of bounty hunters, the Bounty Detective Community makes happy the hunters by offering the most successful  projects. I think, bounty programs are still attractive specially for the projects arranged by the Bounty Detective Community.  They are the best, best and best team. I wish their success forever.

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October 10, 2020, 01:25:22 PM
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In fact, you don't even need to take them seriously and make these statements. We know and trust you. We wish you continued success. We are always with you.   Smiley

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October 10, 2020, 01:30:15 PM
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Ever since i encountered bounty detective, I stopped participating other bounty which mostly result to scam...

It so unfair using high rank to influence the community to believe what was wrong,  I will keep supporting bounty detective 100% for their trust and transparency in handling bounties, keep doing the good works,  we the participants knows you're doing great.. As for those who are slandering, you better desist from such bad behavior..

We're one family..
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October 10, 2020, 01:32:05 PM
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Let me support you. I often check your bounty companies for alternative accounts. And as it was once said here that the problem of cheating is not in farming, but in those managers who allow it.

So the rules of the companies of this manager do not allow fraud on the part of users. And this is one of the good indicators. If we talk specifically about managers who conduct bounties paid with different tokens, this manager is the most popular today and deserves a good reputation.

If bounty companies require KYC verification, people themselves must have their heads on their shoulders and decide for themselves what to do with their data.

I did not follow all the details of all the bounty campaigns carried out by this manager, but if you believe today's words of the manager, he leads them quite successfully. And in this case, bounty hunters should remember all those bounties that lasted for half a year in 2018-2019, and in the end, were not paid.
Participation in the bounty is the choice of the people themselves, no one forces them to do it.

As for the Shef198911 review, you shouldn't pay attention to it. He himself narrowly escaped the account painting for his offer to sell merit. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5105163.msg55065953#msg55065953
For anyone interested, you can check his story using social media.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5105163.msg55066795#msg55066795
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Somewhat strangled by the behavior of xenon131. I think he will come to this topic and be able to explain everything

Thank you for your support,

Well, we don't think he will have any reasonable answer to this thread. Maybe he will find another friend and will slander us by another topic. But the truth will always remain and we will not be subject to threats from people of his kind. His problem is being fired from Bounty Detective. In his opinion, "Hero rank" can't be fired. But we did it. 😊

Besides, calling a project as a scam without any proof is against the "presumption of innocence."

Till date, we have never mandated KYC in our bounty campaigns because we believe and respect that people should have full custody of their private information and decide what to do with it.

Above all, we are trying to escape from fascism in crypto and trying to be freer here. Blaming all Muslim countries as not being free is ridiculous and will upset the Muslims in this forum. There is more than 50 countries that mostly Muslims live, how he decided all of those countries not being free? The same applies to black racism, or any other nations, religions, etc. We are in the year 2020.

Finally, as we mentioned before, he has no rights to spam managers from DM. The rules are clear. The bounty participants should ask their questions on the main group. He did not respect that rule. It's okay if someone asks a few questions kindly, but not every day to all managers.

Best regards.
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October 10, 2020, 01:36:05 PM
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I joined many bounty from Detective Group, almost Bounty company paid. They have a professional way of working, I love it.  They manage a lot of bounty, If you have joined bounty, everyone understands there will be some scam projects.

The accuser of this group, I think, obviously incites, they want to downplay the group's credibility.
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October 10, 2020, 01:42:59 PM
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I have been in this group for a long time and they deliver good bounties even though the reward is small but the point is its still pays.

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October 10, 2020, 02:07:09 PM
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I always monitor the bounty that you manage and like you have managed a lot of bounties in one year, of course many people are enthusiastic about joining and hope for good rewards at the end.
But on the other hand, we must remain vigilant about doing research on what will be managed because everyone has different views such as the example of KingCasino and Clipx who try to cheat and damage the reputation of the bounty detective, therefore we all have to know that Detective is doing this seriously and it is impossible to embezzle. what's in the hunter, still it's all from the team trying to commit the deception at the end.

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October 10, 2020, 02:08:25 PM
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Bounty Detective is a good team they always try their best for all members of their project, many of which are successful,  Cheesy

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October 10, 2020, 02:11:53 PM
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I have sent PM to: @xenon131, to review this thread.

Because I didn't participate in the bounty campaign managed by: @BountyDetective, so I don't know the initial problem, about the trust given to @BountyDetective by:@xenon131.

It seems that in your case the OP should involve:@ Mpamaegbu, Because I saw @ xenon131, gave red credentials based on this topic: ClipX steals KYC data and shuts down

If, @xenon131 responds to my PM and wants to say something here about trust, maybe your problem is solved, just wait for @xenon131 to come here, hopefully it goes well and is resolved well.

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October 10, 2020, 02:22:26 PM
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Bounty Detective is one of the bounty managers I've trusted here on Bitcointalk along with julerz and Arteezy.rtx. I joined a lot of their bounty campaigns. Despite that their updates are delayed because of the "lack of manpower" in bounty management (especially monitoring every participant on the spreadsheet, computing stakes and weekly distribution), I still trust them no matter what.

I like them being honest and transparent on what happened to them in this long post of theirs. They're not perfect, but I vouch them for being one of the best in bounty management here on Bitcointalk.

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I always support Bounty Detective, still the best they always pay for all bounty hunters
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