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October 13, 2020, 05:08:02 PM
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I'm afraid I'm the subject of money laundering in this whole thing. 

Of all the discussion this is just what pops into my mind.
Is the Bitcoin ATM owner really trying to abide by the law or just trying to get away with all that bitcoins they took?
That might be the question you want to ask your lawyer next.

It's a damn bitcoin ATM where mostly you don't need to disclose anything. It's a direct buy and sell machine. (most are just for purchase)
Money launderers will avoid them since they put high tx fees.
If you win this, you might want to kick back and let them pay for the waste of time they put in you.
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October 13, 2020, 05:34:11 PM
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This is not misleading. He have to open up about the situation of the matter cause the Bitcoin ATM provider may abuse the KYC/AML of the EU government
There is no EU government and Switzerland is not part of the EU.

Nobody in Switzerland has the right to confiscate your money and get away with it.
The funds are not confiscated they are frozen, and yes any licensed financial operator has the right to freeze accounts or sum transfers.

what worries me more, it is not being able to prove the entries of money on the account rahakott, on the legal aspect.
I'm afraid I'm the subject of money laundering in this whole thing.  The rahakott wallet had a built-in mixer, and I'm also worried that I would collect dirty money from a third party in the mixing as a result, if that were the case, it exposed me in spite of myself to a very  big problem.
I checked with my lawyer, and my lawyer told me that if the organization that provides the atm has any doubt about the source of the funds they are obliged to notify the LBA, in Switzerland it is a service information on money laundering.

Let's start with the basics.
You did multiple transactions, were all the previous transactions in which you sent coins to the ATM operator from the same address?
Or, simply, can they link you to other cash withdrawals based on that?

Now, to solve it there are two possibilities:
a) talk to the operator and ask them if it's still possible to return your cryptos to your address, or at least the $ equivalent of prices have changed in your advantage and they don't want to incur a loss if so take the offer and finish with them
b) if the above is not possible and they are not willing to release your funds as days have passed it's clear you have to go the legal path, so you will have to contact your financial ombudsman which I assume is FINMA in your case and ask them for help. Remember that

Combine the two and think what the best solution, and when thinking of dropping everything and take the loss think that you have already sent them documents, so most likely they will have to report you, either way, they can't simply stash your coins in the pockets and ignore the laws, especially since they don't know if you're contacting or not a lawyer, they will not risk embezzlement.

One more thing,
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I sent sums from wallet to wallet.
assuming your story is true, shouldn't those addresses in your wallet show absolutely no incoming funds for the last 9 years?




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October 13, 2020, 06:35:14 PM
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no, apparently according to my lawyer they should have long since submitted to me to fill in the kyc form.  they ask and insist on the source of financial funds to protect themselves I think, probably because of the self-regulating body which monitors them above.

I voluntarily filled out the form and sent my identity card by email, when the transaction was blocked I called the operator with my phone, that's when they asked me to send  an email of complaint to the technical service, which I did, they then said that they went to release the funds after giving them this information but they have now insisted for two weeks on the provenance.
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October 14, 2020, 08:23:01 AM
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They are looking for your source of income. They have regulations about getting some KYC for their valued customers. Don't you have a job or perhaps small business to show off some documents? This is no difference from some local crypto exchanges that I had also experienced. Requiring me to submit KYC, ID and proof of income or financial documents.
 
 Op, they will not accept your reasons of winning that bitcoin of yours before. For them, it is maybe a form of money laundering even if it is not. So they need some proofs that you need to show them off. However, you can still talk to the representative who handles the KYC, who knows? Maybe he/she will gonna accept your letter and KYC alone.
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