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October 17, 2020, 03:45:30 AM
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So it seems like almost every week or so, when i go check coinmarketcap.com, you see a random coin that you never seen before, suddenly make the top125 list in market cap.  Some of these coins even show up top 10 out of no where.  Then many eventually go all the way down the list but still are a high price.



First off, how do these coins suddenly appear from no where?  Were these coins even in the top 50 before they suddenly came in top 25?  Some examples are polkadot.  I saw it came weeks ago suddenly in top 10, now its still top 10.  How did this coin come out of no where?  Also, wrapped bitcoin?  That is over 10k a coin.  Where did that come from?  Also not long ago, a coin named hyperion suddenly was high up the list and stayed pretty high for weeks, then now suddenly its all the way like 100+ etc on the list.



So where do these coins suddenly come from?  Also, how would one be able to get up to date news on coins like this?  It seems like when a coin comes in the top out of no where, seems like for a few days, it keeps going up... then after a while it settles down and drops a lot back down.  So wouldn't it make sense if you see a coin make the top 25 out of nowhere, just buy it and then sell it once it hits a certain percentage of profit?  Of course that could already be the high.  But seems like these coins keep staying that price and higher for few days before dropping?
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You should make questions about:

- Total supply: Check it from https://coinmarketcap.com/ or https://www.coingecko.com/en
- Current market price and their ICO/ IEO / crowdsale price: Higher or lower. If higher, how much higher the market price is?
- Look at the chart to see its trend and its volume

If a coin or a token has huge huge total supply it will be very normal to see it jumps to top 100 or top 50 on coinmarketcap ranking list because huge total supply x sudden rise of price (x5, x10) can help one coin join the top list.

Bad story is it won't last too long and you will see shit altcoins fall to the hell weeks or months later.

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October 17, 2020, 04:43:27 AM
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I know that your main concern was how possible for a new coin to enter the top coins list but remember about these coins were putting a very big supply as the total supply and then try to make the circulating supply became less and less. I meant the circulating supply in the market was very low and that makes the price of coins can worth a lot of money or even a few dollars for a single coin.
Those coins are using the trick to make it happen.


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October 17, 2020, 09:20:16 AM
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So it seems like almost every week or so, when i go check coinmarketcap.com, you see a random coin that you never seen before, suddenly make the top125 list in market cap.  Some of these coins even show up top 10 out of no where.  Then many eventually go all the way down the list but still are a high price.



First off, how do these coins suddenly appear from no where?  Were these coins even in the top 50 before they suddenly came in top 25?  Some examples are polkadot.  I saw it came weeks ago suddenly in top 10, now its still top 10.  How did this coin come out of no where?  Also, wrapped bitcoin?  That is over 10k a coin.  Where did that come from?  Also not long ago, a coin named hyperion suddenly was high up the list and stayed pretty high for weeks, then now suddenly its all the way like 100+ etc on the list.



So where do these coins suddenly come from?  Also, how would one be able to get up to date news on coins like this?  It seems like when a coin comes in the top out of no where, seems like for a few days, it keeps going up... then after a while it settles down and drops a lot back down.  So wouldn't it make sense if you see a coin make the top 25 out of nowhere, just buy it and then sell it once it hits a certain percentage of profit?  Of course that could already be the high.  But seems like these coins keep staying that price and higher for few days before dropping?

Great observation and question. Here is my reaction.

1. Creation of artificial Scarcity through the fixation of Coin supply could possibly lead to a rise in the demand and price of a particular coin.

When the DD>SS, you the price and popularity of a coin rise due to this disequilbrium situation.

2. What are the criteria for ranking coins.
Does organizations that rank coins also earn revenue to review some coins, which may biased their ranking?

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October 17, 2020, 09:32:14 AM
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Some of the latest addition on top 25 were defi based tokens thanks to the defi hype. But I don't think they will remain there for long as every hype is followed by a correction. There are more and more stable coins entering this list as there are many being issued mostly with an escrow from real currency so as to facilitate crypto trading. The wrapped btc is btc backed token and their cap comes within the cap of bitcoin as well. Adding them up would make the total marketcap unrealistic.



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October 17, 2020, 09:59:39 AM
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I saw it came weeks ago suddenly in top 10, now its still top 10.  How did this coin come out of no where?  Also, wrapped bitcoin?  That is over 10k a coin.  Where did that come from? 
Wrap bitcoin into the top 20 because most people use it. Everyone needs bitcoin at erc20, so wbtc was created to strengthen the integration between ethereum and bitcoin. You can read more at https://wbtc.network/
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October 17, 2020, 10:17:25 AM
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So it seems like almost every week or so, when i go check coinmarketcap.com, you see a random coin that you never seen before, suddenly make the top125 list in market cap.  Some of these coins even show up top 10 out of no where.  Then many eventually go all the way down the list but still are a high price.
Well this is the proof about our market being volatile,as what you said it grows up from nowhere and now taking the top list
there must be good reason for this right?


First off, how do these coins suddenly appear from no where?  Were these coins even in the top 50 before they suddenly came in top 25?  Some examples are polkadot.  I saw it came weeks ago suddenly in top 10, now its still top 10.  How did this coin come out of no where?  Also, wrapped bitcoin?  That is over 10k a coin.  Where did that come from?  Also not long ago, a coin named hyperion suddenly was high up the list and stayed pretty high for weeks, then now suddenly its all the way like 100+ etc on the list.
actually i'm sure all the coins you are asking are those from Defi projects?

in which make a great explosions this late 3rd quarter and still having movement till 4th quarter.



So where do these coins suddenly come from?  Also, how would one be able to get up to date news on coins like this?  It seems like when a coin comes in the top out of no where, seems like for a few days, it keeps going up... then after a while it settles down and drops a lot back down.  So wouldn't it make sense if you see a coin make the top 25 out of nowhere, just buy it and then sell it once it hits a certain percentage of profit?  Of course that could already be the high.  But seems like these coins keep staying that price and higher for few days before dropping?
you should check them one by one instead of asking here,but 1 think i am sure off mate,that these increase will fade sooner and only few will
 remain on top not even 1/4 of those who are pumping now.









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October 17, 2020, 12:10:37 PM
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Its not a wonder that new coins suddenly raises and enters into the top list of coinmarket cap because even though it is new it might had lot of hype before it gets listed do people are more curious to buy that coin which suddenly ends up ending in chain reaction.But we can't consider it is a coin to invest only due to the price increase in quick time, need to wait for a while and see the coin is really able to hold that position or just short term hype.
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October 17, 2020, 12:16:16 PM
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Usually what happens is upon listing, some coins have a lot of hype behind them which will result in the price surge of the token which will give them a higher rank and market cap. After a couple of days when the hype slowly cools down the price drops which lowers their market cap and the rank.

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October 17, 2020, 12:43:55 PM
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One truth is that prices or value of cryptocurrencies as well as the market capitalisation of cryptos can be easily manipulated for a while to get the desired result for the developers and project owners. But this manipulations cannot stand the test of time. That explains why the value is only held up for a short while, after which they would go to where they really belong. One of the prevalent way of manipulations is restriction of circulating supply.

I was recently following a new project whose value was spiking after the tokensale and the project was listing across several exchanges, upon careful investigation, I found out that the tokens purchased by the investors are yet to be distributed and its been unduly delayed by the developers so as to get the desired result and get more persons to fall for the bait.



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October 17, 2020, 12:55:08 PM
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To be honest i also don't know about their algorthm (talking about cmc), but maybe some of the indicators like 24h volume, projects developments, partnership also the trend will make the chance to get into top 25 or top 10 more easier.

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October 17, 2020, 01:19:42 PM
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If the coins is not so popular and become one of the top crypto currency then this coins can easily be manipulated. Or owner of that coins want to sell it to more people so having in the top list will make it easily for them to notice by other investors you should also check the old graph how they are actually doing it and when they become so aggressive to pump the coins.
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October 17, 2020, 02:52:50 PM
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Many Crypto has ICOs before but they are only traded until the project has a product. I am not unfamiliar with such projects. They are very smart in implementing such a slow listing strategy.
Apart from Polkadot, we could see Filecoin, Tezos, Cosmos listing very late after the ICO. They do this to protect the value of the project from manipulation and the market goes down. The investors for these projects have reaped good returns.
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October 17, 2020, 03:34:12 PM
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I have noticed that there are 5 new coins that reached the latest top 50 ranking list:
1. Polkadot - Rank 8
2. Filecoin - Rank 28
3. Uniswap - Rank 34
4. Uma - Rank 38
5. Yearn Finance - Rank 40

Projects with full platform development and Hype defi have changed the list of top 50 coins before, each project appears in a different way but only projects whose products are already established survive market turmoil, because that hype will change as soon as the community gets fed up of It.

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October 17, 2020, 04:03:17 PM
Last edit: October 17, 2020, 04:25:08 PM by qwizzie
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I have noticed that there are 5 new coins that reached the latest top 50 ranking list:
1. Polkadot - Rank 8
2. Filecoin - Rank 28
3. Uniswap - Rank 34
4. Uma - Rank 38
5. Yearn Finance - Rank 40

Projects with full platform development and Hype defi have changed the list of top 50 coins before, each project appears in a different way but only projects whose products are already established survive market turmoil, because that hype will change as soon as the community gets fed up of It.

Marketcap = Supply x Price

https://coinmarketcap.com/coins/

Polkadot (Rank 6) : existing crypto coin that issued a denomination that increased its supply x100 and decreased its price x100 --> https://medium.com/@polkadotters/how-polkadot-token-denomination-is-going-to-affect-trading-e6dfae5c0d68
Filecoin (Rank 19) : new crypto coin that just launched its Mainnet --> https://decrypt.co/45013/crypto-exchanges-filecoin-mainnet-launch

https://coinmarketcap.com/tokens/

Uniswap : DeFi token (Rank 10)
Uma : DeFi token (Rank 13)
Yearn Finance : DeFi token (Rank 15)
 
Difference between coins and tokens :  

Coins have their own blockchain & have full control over their own fees and network.
Tokens are mostly depending on one specific blockchain (often Ethereum) and have no direct control over the fees and network. If that one specific network that so many token projects depend on is congested and unable to scale, then all those token projects will feel the negative effect of that as well (high fees).  

Comparing coins with tokens is like comparing apples with oranges.

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October 17, 2020, 04:10:38 PM
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They use some strategy for doing such things. First, they come with a mass supply of token, so they don't need to increase their tokens price to 1$, 0.001$ is too much for them when they have a mass supply of tokens. Second, sometimes they use the development news, maybe some exchange listing news so that they can get attention from their communities. ITs help them to create a hype and MM makes another push with it. But they can't stay long with this kind of strategy.
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October 17, 2020, 04:15:22 PM
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Market cap determines all these. that a coin make it to the top spot on coinmarketcap shows strong support from teams and community. we can not rule out fake volumes created by some exchanges that run bot trading. also volume of trades and different exchange listing can triggers high volumes on that particular token.

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October 17, 2020, 04:30:11 PM
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There are many coins which are suddenly boomed and placed themselves on top25. Among them, the Chainlink is the true and highly demanded project which is now in the 7th position and after this in the 8th position, Polkadot is trading at $3.94. One more coin is very challenging now is WBTC which is also in top25 in Coinmarketcap.

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October 17, 2020, 04:52:29 PM
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The simple formula when you mention marketcap is the circulating supply multiplied by the price of the coin/token. Therefore, in addition to large projects with huge initial investment capital, projects that self-issue tokens and list them on the exchange, with a very small number of holders, they can easily push their marketcap into top rank of coimarketcap.

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October 17, 2020, 05:16:22 PM
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To the best of my understanding, I believe the things that brings a coin up that much is either hype or they have a major development they are working on which attracted a lot of people. When it is based on hype, the coin will appear from no where because of massive attention but when that hype starts dropping the coin start dropping down the rank. But most coins which got to that level they are, maybe top 25 via having strong use case, they will be revolving round that range, that is, they might drop in rank and later still come up; this is what differentiates them from those that rosed with hype.
Additionally, a clear observations will show that most of those coins in top 25 got there during the DeFi hype, now the question is, how long will they stay there?
From another angle, the circulating supply of a coin can also take a coin to such rank (the lower the better) at the same time, the coins use case can also be a deciding entity to such actualization.
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