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October 05, 2020, 11:07:07 AM
Last edit: October 18, 2020, 07:30:21 AM by derago21
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About software

CTR - GUI utility that can possibly boost ZEN2 processor performance on your PC.

CTR (ClockTuner for Ryzen) software allows each user to customize the system with maximum energy efficiency. In this case, CTR is fully automated and does not limit the user in actions. The program has a kind of artificial intelligence, which will help in any situation, and the protection system will monitor each step so that your components were not exposed to danger. CTR is compatible with all motherboards on the AM4 socket, despite the artificial limitations of AMD. As for conditions, it is probably one thing - the processor should be based on Zen 2 architecture. CTR is made by Guru3D's oldtimer 1USMUS.

How to install CTR

1. Download the CTR archive (download) and unpack it in a convenient place for you
2. Download and install Ryzen Master 2.3 (download)
3. Download Cinebench R20 (download) archive and extract the archive contents to the "CB20" folder (this folder is located in the CTR folder)
4. Run Cinebench R20, accept the license agreement, close Cinebench R20.
CTR is ready to work



The main principle of this software is to evaluate the quality of each CCX and adjust the frequencies individually. Prime95 with a number of special presets assesses the stability of each CCX. A step-by-step frequency algorithm with multiple rules allows you to select the most stable frequency for all CCX simultaneously without disturbing the energy balance between the CCX. CTR also contains a plug-in (optional) test package Cinebench R20 from Maxon, which will evaluate the results of the tuning

System requirements and preparation for work

-Windows 10 x64 1909-2004 build;
-AMD Ryzen processor with Zen 2 architecture (Renoir is temporarily not supported);
-BIOS with AGESA Combo AM4 1.0.0.4 (and newer);
-.NET Framework 4.6 (and newer);
-CPU Voltage - Auto (BIOS);
-CPU Multiplayer - Auto (BIOS);
-SVM (Virtualization) – disabled (BIOS, optional);
-Spread Spectrum – disabled (BIOS, optional);
-Ryzen Master 2.3 (uses the driver for monitoring);
-Stable RAM overclocking or stable XMP.
-The next set of requirements are also mandatory and apply to UEFI (BIOS) settings. Since the success of CTR depends heavily on the capabilities of the motherboard VRM (highly recommended to read this chapter - link), we need to make a kind of foundation in the UEFI (BIOS) to secure the process of tuning the system from BSOD.

The most important setting is LLC (Load Line Calibration), my recommendations are as follows:

-ASUS - LLC 3;
-MSI - LLC 3;
-Gigabyte - in most cases Turbo, but it can also be Auto;
-ASRock is Auto or LLC 2; Importantly, CTR is mediocre compatible with ASRock motherboards, as all LLC modes show abnormally high Vdroop;
-Biostar - Level 4+.
It is recommended to use additional settings for ASUS motherboard owners:

-Phase mode - Standard;
-Current capability mode - 100%;



CTR 1.0 Beta 3

-The problem with abnormal results in the "DIAGNOSTIC" mode has been completely solved.
-New hints in the log.
-The tolerances for Vdroop have been revised, LLC status alerts will only be issued if there is only a serious problem with the processor power supply. In most cases LLC Auto will now be enough.
-Ryzen 5 3500,  Ryzen 5 3500X and  Ryzen 9 3900 now fully supported.
-Additional protection against non-indigenous input of values.
-CTR no blocks the interface, if the operating system contains incorrect CPPC tags or the tags cannot be read.
-Additional calibrations in error detection algorithms.
-The default temperature threshold has been increased (80->85). CTR will stop all processes if the temperature of 85 degrees is reached.
-No results in "BENCHMARK" tab. Fixed.

CTR 1.0 Beta 2

-Fixed "Diagnostic" mode. A number of improvements should make diagnosis more safe and clever. Also slightly increased diagnostic time.
-Fixed LLC warnings.
-OC recommendations (reference voltage and reference frequency) have been changed for some processors.
-CTR now knows, how to notify the user if a problem is detected in the monitoring system.
-New! Ramping system. This system is provided to lengthen the ramp time and lessen the current in-rush. An attempt to save the system from BSOD.
-New! Voltage compensation. A system that will compensate Vdroop at the final stage of overclocking or undervolting. An attempt to save the system from BSOD.
-Fixed (partially) a rare bug "CTR does not start".
-Fixed abnormal Cinebench R20 results (voltage or power consumption).
-Fixed a rare bug "Problems with reading CBlog.log".
-"EDIT PROFILE". Additional protection of text fields from incorrect actions.
-Changed "CCX delta" (default) for Ryzen 9 3900X.



Known issues

-BSOD during the diagnosis. Try to increase LLC or do not try to use CTR anymore. Weak VRM or microcode error (BIOS) may be the main reason for CTR incompatibility.
-Ryzen 3 3100. During overclocking or undervolting, one of the threads will report a fall with the value "usage 0%". I strongly recommend not to conduct any experiments.
-Some MSI motherboards do not display SVI2 voltage correctly. Does not affect the results or CTR stability.
-CTR requires Ryzen Master to be reinstalled. There are cases when second reinstallation of Ryzen Master not eliminate problems. You should wait for a new BIOS / Ryzen Master / Chipset driver. The source of the problem is not found.
-CPPC tags "100 100 100 100 etc". You should wait for a new BIOS / Ryzen Master / Chipset driver. The source of the problem is not found.

Note

-For correct tuning of Ryzen processors it is sometimes necessary to disable SVM (virtualization). This condition does not have to be fulfilled. Compatibility is present.



Source: https://twitter.com/1usmus

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Anyone get this working?   Tried it on my asrock b450 with a 3900.  It reboots.  Thinking it’s the board. 
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Anyone get this working?   Tried it on my asrock b450 with a 3900.  It reboots.  Thinking it’s the board. 
Everything works, I will try to collect a full FAQ on the utility in the near future
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October 05, 2020, 04:13:58 PM
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Anyone get this working?   Tried it on my asrock b450 with a 3900.  It reboots.  Thinking it’s the board. 

Well there actually is a non X 3900 which this isnt compatible with.
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October 05, 2020, 09:02:23 PM
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mine is a 3900x.    think its my memory. might see if i can clock it down and see if i get better results
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October 06, 2020, 11:59:01 AM
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mine is a 3900x.    think its my memory. might see if i can clock it down and see if i get better results

it will be cool if you share the results here later, thank you
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October 06, 2020, 12:25:57 PM
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Works fine om My Ryzen 5 3600 with crappy ram.
Bronze sample it said.  Performance wise  4075/4050 all core oc @ 1.25v i belive it went to.
From 6600h/s to 7100h/s for me .

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October 07, 2020, 07:48:33 AM
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"CTR 1.1 development is finished.
CTR 1.1 has received a new engine. The internal testing statistics show cardinal changes. I really hope that you will be satisfied as well"
Release is scheduled for early next week. More information a bit later


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October 07, 2020, 10:50:13 PM
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Works fine om My Ryzen 5 3600 with crappy ram.
Bronze sample it said.  Performance wise  4075/4050 all core oc @ 1.25v i belive it went to.
From 6600h/s to 7100h/s for me .



Pretty much identical to mine. I got early batch dont seem to clock well. Beats the stock CB20 score but more importantly under load it only get to 52c so its running cool when stressed.
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Works fine om My Ryzen 5 3600 with crappy ram.
Bronze sample it said.  Performance wise  4075/4050 all core oc @ 1.25v i belive it went to.
From 6600h/s to 7100h/s for me .


good results
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October 10, 2020, 08:10:31 AM
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The official guide to additional Ryzen Performance!
Get a perfect CPU Overclock AUTOMATICALLY in just a few clicks with a Clock Tuner For Ryzen!

Watch: https://youtu.be/YdbFqedM8MQ
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October 12, 2020, 09:33:19 AM
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This week, a new version of the program is expected, with an update to the engine and other useful features.
As soon as this happens, the topic will be updated.
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October 13, 2020, 02:29:30 PM
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AMD Launches AMD Ryzen 5000 Series Desktop Processors: The Fastest Gaming CPUs in the World
More info: https://ir.amd.com/news-events/press-releases/detail/972/amd-launches-amd-ryzen-5000-series-desktop-processors-the

All new CPUs scored more points than the 11th generation Intel Core. The blue company's CPU didn't even get 600 points.
At the same time, AMD's variants performed better in the test (Cinebench R20 test)

The program update will be released tomorrow, the topic will be updated, stay tuned
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October 15, 2020, 05:48:05 PM
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Test results.

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CTR v1.1.0 available on October 17

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New version CTR v1.1.0 release

CTR 1.1 got a new engine with some additional rules. Before making a step to a higher frequency, CTR checks the current frequency with reduced voltage relative to the reference one. In most cases, this can prevent BSOD during the frequency step or high Vdroop. It also helps to prevent the system from false pitch to a higher frequency if the CCX is on the edge of instability.

Another important advantage of the new CTR 1.1 engine is the new, secure method of controlling the processor's frequency and voltage. This will protect user systems from sending incorrect commands to registers.

The load level of stress tests has been corrected for all processors and all modes. Now uses a more loyal value of FFT, which can protect the system from BSOD.

Load Line Calibration level requirements have been revised, and thanks to the new CTR rules, you can use LLC in Auto mode (in most cases, you will not need to use LLC Mode 3). This also means that ASRock and Gigabyte motherboards are fully supported.

Note. The "Recommended to improve voltage compensation" warning is information only and does not require the user to intervene in the UEFI (BIOS) immediately.

"Enhance accuracy" is a system of additional frequency step crushing using voltage. Depending on the reference voltage value, the CTR selects the optimal number of extra steps. Yes, the "tuning" process becomes longer, but the results are more accurate.

Note. This setting has a direct impact on your diagnostic time. If this option is enabled, the step time is doubled to 2 minutes.

The diagnostic mode has received several improvements. Step time was increased, and the stress load was corrected using FFT. This significantly reduced the probability of BSOD. The evaluation of the cooling system allows offering the user the optimal mode automatically. It can be an undervolting mode or an overclocking mode with the current PPT level saved. That is, if you use a BOX cooler, you will be automatically offered an undervolt mode, which has a chance to reduce the processor temperature in the load up to 15 degrees (and reduce the noise level).

The system of penalties for creating the final profile was redesigned. Now the penalty will depend on the maximum processor temperature during the diagnostics and the current Vdroop level. This allows the profile to have some additional stability reserve.

New interface


New profile management


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October 19, 2020, 09:39:59 PM
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Anyone get this working?   Tried it on my asrock b450 with a 3900.  It reboots.  Thinking it’s the board. 

b450  can bus 3900 but many mainboard of b450 not have good power phase to overclock 3900
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