US Elections 2020 - very self such moderated

[TwitchySeal]

I am getting confused. In case the fight about the election outcome ends up in the supreme court, will Biden be able to sworn in as the president on January 2021? There are going to be tons of lawsuits. Republican observers were kicked out of the counting center in Michigan, access was denied to Republican observers in Pennsylvania, dead people voting in Nevada and so on.. 

The only votes that actually matter are the 538 electors that meet on the Monday after the second Wednesday in December.

If nobody receives a majority of the 538 votes, the House of Representatives will choose the next president.

So, no.

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[Gyfts]

Georgia has to get a recount because of the 9k military ballots that are presumably going to be sent in tomorrow. But the recounts don't do anything. Florida's recount bumped Bush by a couple hundred votes so there's no way the state will flip if Biden gets a sizeable lead.

PA is all but gone for Trump which would end this shit show. NC is not going to be decided until Nov. 12th so even if Trump outperforms, we still don't know the winner until the 12th.

Senate is at a 48 48 split.

Another close race is the Georgia Senate race.

David Perdue (R) is at 49.9% and needs a majority in order to avoid a run off which he couldn't get, so we have two Georgia run offs which would decide the senate majority. The other race is Kelly Loeffler (R) v. Warnock. Apparently Loeffler is worth 500 million dollars and lives in a 10 million dollar home so this person is probably some self serving narcissist running for the senate for the prestige. Apparently that was the best republican Georgia could put up.


Thom Tillis (R) SHOULD* win NC, so Republicans are at 49 seats. Alaska will ofc elect their Republican senator, so R's are at 50.

The picture of Kamala Harris walking down the chamber smiling waving her hands around as she tie breaks every piece of legislation is not a pretty sight...Republicans will dump all they have into the race hoping to get at least one.

[casperBGD]

I am getting confused. In case the fight about the election outcome ends up in the supreme court, will Biden be able to sworn in as the president on January 2021? There are going to be tons of lawsuits. Republican observers were kicked out of the counting center in Michigan, access was denied to Republican observers in Pennsylvania, dead people voting in Nevada and so on..  

I doubt this will go anywhere. A few random lawsuits that Trump campaign tried to file have been thrown out because the lawyers couldn't produce evidence. They could force a couple of recounts (WI and GA) but that's about it.

agree, and the difference in Michigan and Wisconsin is now even higher than 4 years ago, when Trump claimed this countries
these lawsuits are just chit-chat, and will not produce anything significant legally, since there is no evidence at all, but could produce unrest in the country and i think that this is primary goal for Trump, although do not know what will be next step for him

PA is all but gone for Trump which would end this shit show. NC is not going to be decided until Nov. 12th so even if Trump outperforms, we still don't know the winner until the 12th.

yeah, flip should happen today, and that should end this show that is currently on the run, three days on TV, i have heard that online food purchase jumped significantly during this show, and people are probably staying at home, so this could be a type of quarantine for people

[TwitchySeal]

PA is all but gone for Trump which would end this shit show.

Hope you're right.  But this shit show might just be getting started.

[Gyfts]

Don't even have to look at PA. Biden at the time of this post takes the lead in Georgia by ~1k votes with >99% reporting.

Regardless of your political views, votes trickling in by the hundreds at 5 AM in Georgia two days after the election has passed is beyond mental retardation on behalf of state officials.

[casperBGD]

Don't even have to look at PA. Biden at the time of this post takes the lead in Georgia by ~1k votes with >99% reporting.

agree, but final difference in PA would be 100k+ for Biden, if this trend continue till the end of the counting, and it will, so there would not be any suspicion there, i presume that Trump will try to blame everyone and claim re-election, but do not see how he can do something

[suchmoon]

Hope you're right.  But this shit show might just be getting started.

I didn't know I could file a case with the SC via tweet

Seriously though, he needs to bring a plausible case that has the potential of changing the outcome of the election. If he loses PA, which he will, he has no case.

Edit: Biden ahead in PA.

[Gyfts]

Decision Desk calls it. Biden's the 46th President of the United States.

https://results.decisiondeskhq.com/


PA was going to flip, AZ was never going to flip, neither was NV. Figured anyone that was being realistic would have called it 24 hours ago, but here we are.

[casperBGD]

Hope you're right.  But this shit show might just be getting started.

I didn't know I could file a case with the SC via tweet

Seriously though, he needs to bring a plausible case that has the potential of changing the outcome of the election. If he loses PA, which he will, he has no case.

Edit: Biden ahead in PA.

yeah, he is ahead in PA, and will probably have good advantage at the end, just looking at trend, which is mainly 75% of new votes for Biden, so he can allow to lose Arizona, that can happen in the end, but PA is enough to reach 270
GA could overturn back, as i understood there is 9000 US army votes there, and difference is really low (<1000 votes), but that will not be important, if Biden wins PA

[TwitchySeal]

Assuming AZ, GA and PA are done, If Biden takes NV and GA he will have 306 electoral votes.

[coins4commies]

Its over when the media says its over.

[TwitchySeal]

Its over when the media says its over.

The media says it's not technically over till one candidate receives a majority of votes from the electors on December 15th, or the House of Representatives chooses the next president.

[bryant.coleman]

Georgia has to get a recount because of the 9k military ballots that are presumably going to be sent in tomorrow. But the recounts don't do anything. Florida's recount bumped Bush by a couple hundred votes so there's no way the state will flip if Biden gets a sizeable lead.

PA is all but gone for Trump which would end this shit show. NC is not going to be decided until Nov. 12th so even if Trump outperforms, we still don't know the winner until the 12th.

Senate is at a 48 48 split.

Another close race is the Georgia Senate race.

David Perdue (R) is at 49.9% and needs a majority in order to avoid a run off which he couldn't get, so we have two Georgia run offs which would decide the senate majority. The other race is Kelly Loeffler (R) v. Warnock. Apparently Loeffler is worth 500 million dollars and lives in a 10 million dollar home so this person is probably some self serving narcissist running for the senate for the prestige. Apparently that was the best republican Georgia could put up.


Thom Tillis (R) SHOULD* win NC, so Republicans are at 49 seats. Alaska will ofc elect their Republican senator, so R's are at 50.

The picture of Kamala Harris walking down the chamber smiling waving her hands around as she tie breaks every piece of legislation is not a pretty sight...Republicans will dump all they have into the race hoping to get at least one.

Even in case Republicans somehow manage to win the two remaining seats in Georgia (Perdue and Loeffler), their majority will be reduced to 52-48. But then there are at least two "Republican" senators who vote with Democrats most of the time - Murkowski and Collins. So even in the best case scenario for Republicans, the actual balance in the senate is going to be 50-50.

[suchmoon]

Even in case Republicans somehow manage to win the two remaining seats in Georgia (Perdue and Loeffler), their majority will be reduced to 52-48. But then there are at least two "Republican" senators who vote with Democrats most of the time - Murkowski and Collins. So even in the best case scenario for Republicans, the actual balance in the senate is going to be 50-50.

Democrats effectively gained 2 seats (1 proper Senate seat + VP tiebreaker) but I would expect the GA runoffs to be fierce. Now that a state-wide Georgia election has been shown to be winnable for Democrats they will probably gamble a $100 million on it.

[TwitchySeal]

they will probably gamble a $100 million on it.

I'd say over. 

[Cnut237]

Its over when the media says its over.

I think Trump will drag it out beyond that point. Even if the media turns against him and stops granting him airtime, he still has his own communication channels. The man will never, ever accept that he's been defeated in anything, or that he's been wrong in anything. Can you imagine him admitting that he called wrong on even the most insignificant event, such as a coin toss or a dice roll? Or that he lost in a golf match? Let alone that he's come second in a two-horse race for leader-of-the-free-world, with billions of people watching on.

For Biden supporters the election has two possible outcomes:
Biden wins
Biden loses

For Trump supporters* the election has two possible outcomes:
Trump wins
Trump wins but is cheated out of victory

It's absurd. The problem is that a proportion of the Trump base are backing him through faith rather than reason. That's why facts have no effect on them.
Of course some benighted countries do have elections where the result is determined prior to ballots being counted. America really shouldn't want to become one of those countries.

*_{Not all Trump supporters, obviously. But the loudest ones tend to grab the attention.}

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Further to this, the fallout could get messy and violent. Will he leave the White House quietly? Will he encourage armed extremist nut-jobs to vote with their guns? I think it's a genuine concern. It's difficult to rule anything out at this point. The Biden campaign's tongue-in-cheek comment that "the United States government is perfectly capable of escorting trespassers out of the White House" could yet come to pass.

[sujonali1819]

Trump tweeted few minutes ago. 🤣🤣🤣

[eddie13]

Trump is either making a fool of himself, or this is another "I was wiretapped" situation where everyone that calls him a liar are making fools of themselves and will be shown when the proof drops.. (remember that one?)

Trump likes to set his opponents and the media up like that..

[Artemis3]

According to ABC, Biden got Pennsylvania, so game over. 273 vs 214.

Of course Trump will do the American thing to do: Sue 

[vapourminer]

According to ABC, Biden got Pennsylvania, so game over. 273 vs 214.

Of course Trump will do the American thing to do: Sue 

looks like most news outlets have agreed.

well except for fox; it has reserved its call.

edit: fox news has now called it for biden.