Unacceptable attitudes from new project teams

[Byakuga]

Bounty managers of this forum it's time to wisen up, I know few bounty managers are already doing this but majority aren't,  top rated crypto projects that raised millions of dollars successfully are finding it very very hard to pay Bounty Hunters their tokens after all the hardwork talkless of med rated crypto projects, they feel reluctant to pay bounty hunters reward so I'm begging you guys to start compulsory Escrow, if every bounty managers they seek ask for Escrow they won't have any choice but to comply

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[articlecity]

I totally agree, it is time for bounty managers to take action and be responsible for the reward token distribution and it will greatly benefit them too as their reputation will increase and they will be able to attract more participants in their campaigns.

[Zeehaxan]

The bounty managers need to create win win deals with the project teams to make sure that they are willing to distribute the reward tokens after the campaign end, the team can send the tokens to bounty manager that could be unlocked after bounty completion and then distributed and if the team does not have that level of trust in bounty manager then the reward tokens should be properly escrowed using professionals.

[VDraci]

Honestly speaking, enough is enough, you promote a project for months and a date is picked for distribution later it get postponed for months again and this keeps happening over and over, bounties frustrations alone is enough to quit promoting new projects, new projects are so blessed with teams that doesn't care nowadays, it's a good advice telling bounty managers to reform too.

[Mealea]

I think as a bounty hunter, you have a choice to selective when it comes to bounty campaigns. There are some campaigns that are escrow why there are some campaigns that are not escrow, we also have reputable bounty managers that will guarantee your rewards to a certain extent, we should make it a duty to go for good campaigns instead of useless campaigns.

[Genemind]

I had the same struggle before but there are some instances where we can't put all the blame on bounty managers. As participants and bounty hunters, we still have the free will to choose legit projects with a reputable and trusted team and bounty manager. I just hope that all bounty managers would be fair in paying their participants' effort and hard work.

[blockman]

Then choose a good bounty manager that doesn't have history of comprising bounty hunter's reward. They have their own style of campaign/bounty management and you can just avoid a bounty if you don't like the bounty manager's style of managing his/her bounties. You can also ask the manager if he/she can hire an escrow for the rewards. There were projects that have been doing this but you can't just see that most of them do it as mandatory.

[Johnyz]

The bounty managers don’t want to get involved if the project turn into a  scam project and this is one of the reason why they don’t ask for escrow and beside they are being paid in $$$ so they’ll lose nothing. Most of the managers especially the good one assure us to receive token on time, but when the distribution begin the developer is indeed hesitating to send the bounties. Managers already know this risk, but we still have to trust them.

[fadhilz123]

No one knows and no one guarantees that in the future the team of the project surely will pay the bounty hunters, maybe after the project success they choose to not pay the hunter and kick them all out of the group, so to avoid it, escrow is the solution. This is should be mandatory requirements before a new project launch their bounty

[makishart]

I do agree with this idea and this idea has already sounded by so many users too since a long time ago. What you can do to talk with the manager directly as the only the managers who can try to make a deal with the team. I heard that inthesilence campaign, bountydetective have already escrowed the reward since i have also participated in one of the campaign that's managed by them and get's a nice reward from there.
It should all of the managers use escrow.

[kawetsriyanto]

~it is time for bounty managers to take action and be responsible for the reward token distribution~

Do you think the bounty managers not responsible previously? And they don't do big efforts for the token distribution?
FYI, you won't know in detail what the bounty managers do behind the bounties. I know some bounty managers, the did very hard efforts to pay the bounty hunters. They worked hard since offering the team projects to have bounties, then share the bounties to hunters. Then, they struggle to give proper payments to the bounty hunters. But yes, most bounty hunters don't care about this, they only think about their payments to get as quick as possible.

~it will greatly benefit them too as their reputation will increase~

I'm pretty sure all bounty managers know it very well.
Once the bounty managers can bring good bounties paying hunters with a good amount of money, then surely increases their reputation.
Moreover, if the bounty managers can manage the bounties well such as finish the spreadsheet fast and distribute the payment on time. You don't need to remind them, it directly gives big impacts.

[Kasabus]

~it is time for bounty managers to take action and be responsible for the reward token distribution~

Do you think the bounty managers not responsible previously? And they don't do big efforts for the token distribution?
FYI, you won't know in detail what the bounty managers do behind the bounties. I know some bounty managers, the did very hard efforts to pay the bounty hunters. They worked hard since offering the team projects to have bounties, then share the bounties to hunters. Then, they struggle to give proper payments to the bounty hunters. But yes, most bounty hunters don't care about this, they only think about their payments to get as quick as possible.

~it will greatly benefit them too as their reputation will increase~

I'm pretty sure all bounty managers know it very well.
Once the bounty managers can bring good bounties paying hunters with a good amount of money, then surely increases their reputation.
Moreover, if the bounty managers can manage the bounties well such as finish the spreadsheet fast and distribute the payment on time. You don't need to remind them, it directly gives big impacts.

I think bounty managers are already responsible enought about their own obligations towards those bounty hunters who made efforts for the promotion of the project. Reputable managers should not be asked anymore about escrowing because they knew already what's the best thing to do. But if you fall on a bounty manager that does not pay rewards, might as well question him about escrowing.

[Kemarit]

Bounty managers of this forum it's time to wisen up, I know few bounty managers are already doing this but majority aren't,  top rated crypto projects that raised millions of dollars successfully are finding it very very hard to pay Bounty Hunters their tokens after all the hardwork talkless of med rated crypto projects, they feel reluctant to pay bounty hunters reward so I'm begging you guys to start compulsory Escrow, if every bounty managers they seek ask for Escrow they won't have any choice but to comply

As much as I agree with this, bounty managers hands are also tied. If the projects doesn't want to escrow so what can they do about it? They are just a facilitator and they themselves are just one victim together with bounty hunters is some shit happens on the campaign.

And I'm sure there could be some bounty managers who are doing some escrow already, but I doubt majority can follow because it's beyond their control. And you don't need to remind this as well specially for experience managers.

[LogitechMouse]

I know the feeling that the bounty hunters aren't paid because of their effort and time that they gave to advertise the project.
The only thing is that, what the bounty campaign manager is doing is to just manage the campaign, compute the number of tokens they will give to hunters and that's it.

Escrow?? It will depend on the team. I would be happy if every bounty campaign is like that but it isn't so there is nothing we can do about it. Not paying the bounty hunters isn't fault of the bounty campaign manager but it is the fault of the team of the project.

I see one solution with this. The team will give the total bounty rewards to the campaign manager and give him some ETH for the transaction fee when the manager will distribute the token to the bounty hunter. In this process it will lessen at least the number of bounty hunters that will not be paid unless the campaign manager will run with the token and ETH or the team will disagree with this.

[tsaroz]

Escrow is a great choice, but many bounty Managers haven't been able to get it. As only the firmness of a BM is needed, like a BM that threatens to make a SCAM Thread if the payment for the Bounty Hunter is not paid immediately, that's a form of responsibility and firmnes

One of the reason for it is bounty managers themselves are not professional enough. When there are rookie bounty manager running a bounty, they are ready to compromise in most things. And another reason is greed, the once popular bounty manager atriz saw himself fall from fame just because he thought it was good to keep promoting a scam even after he'd realized it is. A professional bounty manager should always escrow the rewards wherever possible and stop promoting anything that's know to be a scam.

[crzy]

Good project should always fulfill and perform base on their promise date, though some problems may occur but as much as possible, they have to do everything to pay on time. We cannot blame the managers for not accepting escrow because that's another job for them and the blame is on your side for sure, hunters are too aggressive most of the time, so managers are also thinking about their reputation.

[rat03gopoh]

This is good advice, but if you just hope without pressing them, you can't do anything even if they aren't willing to escrow. If you want to start a change, then apply it from yourself.
Avoid bounties that don't escrow then create groups or moves to get other hunters to care about this.

[istiak2277]

Bounty managers of this forum it's time to wisen up, I know few bounty managers are already doing this but majority aren't,  top rated crypto projects that raised millions of dollars successfully are finding it very very hard to pay Bounty Hunters their tokens after all the hardwork talkless of med rated crypto projects, they feel reluctant to pay bounty hunters reward so I'm begging you guys to start compulsory Escrow, if every bounty managers they seek ask for Escrow they won't have any choice but to comply

I agree with you on this matter but the fact is now there are too many bounty managers than there is a new project. And it's not very hard for the project owners to find someone who will manage their project without Escrow with lower payments. So we can not prevent this but if top-rated bounty manager sticks to these rules then escrowed will be a trend in bounty campaign if some project successfully does that.

[btc-facebook]

This problem has become a common problem that has never been resolved, the problem is no one cares about this,
I just hope the bitcointalk staff will initiate this step, because if there are special rules about this, I guess all projects will inevitably follow it,
if necessary all well-known forums create discussions about this, so that all projects have no other choice but to agree, I am sure this will be successful because all projects need forums to be known by many people.

[Mulann2]

Bounty managers of this forum it's time to wisen up, I know few bounty managers are already doing this but majority aren't,  top rated crypto projects that raised millions of dollars successfully are finding it very very hard to pay Bounty Hunters their tokens after all the hardwork talkless of med rated crypto projects, they feel reluctant to pay bounty hunters reward so I'm begging you guys to start compulsory Escrow, if every bounty managers they seek ask for Escrow they won't have any choice but to comply

Very true, this is becoming too much, most bm are just too self centered, they only care about their payment and not that of hunters who do the work, all alts campaign should be subjected to using escrow to promote their campaign otherwise to accept the job, it doesn't matter if the token is tradeable or not,  they should escrow it to avoid having second thoughts at the end,
We have seen too many of this cases that it is now a thing of concern, I hope bm's will yield this advice.