Why would anyone pay for Covid testing?

[Jet Cash]

It seems that Boots ( a UK retail pharma chain) is going to offer fast testing for Covid infections. Now I can't see the point of this, as there seem to be a number of results from the tests.

Your test is negative. Now you don't know if that is a false negative, or if you have long term immunity and no recent infections. The other alternative is that you have no immunity, and you are at risk of infection.

Your test is positive. Now this has a variety of possibilities, assuming that you have no serious symptoms ( in which case you wouldn't be walking into a shop for testing).
- It is a false positive, and some other virus has triggered the result.
- You have no idea of the live load of the virus, so you don't really know what to worry about.
- You have a load of dead viral particles, but no active viruses.
- You have antibodies resulting from the activity of your immune system.
- If it is a mucosal test, you don't know if the virus is active in any serious organs in your body.

So it seems to me that if you do test positive, it is an indication that your immune system is working, and you should not do anything to try to reduce it potency. Of course a retail chemist will try to sell you products to suppress symptoms and thus prolong the recovery process.

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[franky1]

first lets correct jetcash's falsehoods
it wont get triggered by 'other viruses'
it will trigger when at near-peak infection. but wont trigger at low infections period before or after
it wont trigger due to the low 'shedding' of dead viruses
it has nothing to do with antibodies

yes the 'rapid test' is for those at the peak of infection.
pre symptomatic - post infection wont really detect it. so yes there is some issues with best timing to be tested

the idea of these rapid tests is only good in a situation where everyone is tested regularly, eg every 3 days. thus when an infection is at peak they can spot it and act the same hour.

having someone pay for it. well thats just foolish especially if it means a potential sick person has to go to a shop and get it(thus interacting with people) but also people wont pay out for a test every couple days just to find out when they are most infectious because they might only get sick 2 times a year. so thats like 10 tests a month for 6 months to get one positive. (60 tests).. costs soon add up

yes 60 tests per person at the true manufacturing cost is still cheaper than a single PCR test. and yes if government funded to just distribute 60 tests to every citizen for free has many many benefits over all

but a single test where people have to buy it from a retailer.. seems oppertunist profit for the retailer while negating the proper usage/method of best effectivity

by al this im not saying the 'rapid test' does not work. but the timing of when you take the spit test is critical.
no point taking it a week after feeling symptoms to find out if you had covid.
more so it can be used to show you are no longer in the infectious stage. but that too could be where you are pre-symptomatic to not yet be at the peak infection.

so regular testing using rapid testing is the best effective method. not sporadic/random testing

[Poker Player]

I don't see the point either.

The other day I was talking to some nurses and they told me that this kind of quick test is unreliable. I guess a lot of people will end up paying to have them done, simply because of the fear and hysteria that has been created.

[BADecker]

Why would anyone pay for Covid testing?


franky1 might do it, just to promote doctors, etc.

[tvbcof]

I'd happily pay for the results I want as will most people who have money.  'Testing' will be a great business opportunity, and obviously there is zero oversight in the 'new normal' with it's 'public/private partnerships.'

If I needed to travel I'd pay for a negative result.

When I need to argue that it is 'altruistic' for me to give up my place in line for the covid-19 so-called 'vaccine' to a 'poor person' who 'needs' it, I'll pay for a positive result.  That's why all the media personalities and politicians are getting it on-record that they 'caught covid-19' of course.

[Mauser]

In my country it's a bit different, you can get free test at the airport after travelling, but the results usually take 48 hours. And if you are in a hurry and need a faster test result you can get a test in 8 hours but have to pay for that. This is a pretty good trade off because not everybody can afford to pay for a test, so you get the basics for free, but for fast results you have to pay. This is of course only for the quick test that shows if you are infected with Covid-19 right now. The bigger blood test that shows if you had the corona virus in the past you don't get for free and cost around 80€ here. But who really needs that test?

[TwitchySeal]

So they can travel somewhere that requires a recent negative test.

[Juggy777]

I'd happily pay for the results I want as will most people who have money.  'Testing' will be a great business opportunity, and obviously there is zero oversight in the 'new normal' with it's 'public/private partnerships.'

If I needed to travel I'd pay for a negative result.

When I need to argue that it is 'altruistic' for me to give up my place in line for the covid-19 so-called 'vaccine' to a 'poor person' who 'needs' it, I'll pay for a positive result.  That's why all the media personalities and politicians are getting it on-record that they 'caught covid-19' of course.

@tvbcof you’re right in a way because travellers will be using rapid testing more than anyone, but is it really needed for other citizens is up for a debate, and secondly not all can afford it as most if not all have been hit by the pandemic (job loss, business loss etc). Furthermore they could limit rapid testing to an area where covid cases has escalated quickly, but doing rapid testing in areas where covid cases are less won’t make any sense in my personal opinion.

Sources:

https://www.npr.org/2020/10/26/927334455/can-pre-flight-covid-19-testing-get-travelers-back-on-planes

https://www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/issue-briefs/2020/oct/how-many-lost-jobs-employer-coverage-pandemic

[tvbcof]

I'd happily pay for the results I want as will most people who have money.  'Testing' will be a great business opportunity, and obviously there is zero oversight in the 'new normal' with it's 'public/private partnerships.'

If I needed to travel I'd pay for a negative result.

When I need to argue that it is 'altruistic' for me to give up my place in line for the covid-19 so-called 'vaccine' to a 'poor person' who 'needs' it, I'll pay for a positive result.  That's why all the media personalities and politicians are getting it on-record that they 'caught covid-19' of course.

@tvbcof you’re right in a way because travellers will be using rapid testing more than anyone, but is it really needed for other citizens is up for a debate, and secondly not all can afford it as most if not all have been hit by the pandemic (job loss, business loss etc). Furthermore they could limit rapid testing to an area where covid cases has escalated quickly, but doing rapid testing in areas where covid cases are less won’t make any sense in my personal opinion.

Sources:

https://www.npr.org/2020/10/26/927334455/can-pre-flight-covid-19-testing-get-travelers-back-on-planes

https://www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/issue-briefs/2020/oct/how-many-lost-jobs-employer-coverage-pandemic

After the 'great reset' most people should not travel at all.  Even _within_ a city.  You've heard of 'carbon footprint', right?

This stuff has long been planned, written about, and predicatively programmed.  I've been researching it actively for about 5 years and it's 100% fraud.  Ass-wipes like franky1, Twitchy, Mauser, etc probably don't know who and what they are fighting for.  I can tell you in no uncertain terms, however, that those who do have a clue and think they are doing 'God's work' or whatever are in for a rude awakening.  Their efforts will not be rewarded with brownie points and little fiefdoms to exert control over.  They'll probably be dispatched early on in the game just in case they actaully are 'true believers'...and because the suck-ups are universally despised.

I may get around to listining the the seasme-street-for-adults link after a while.  Mostly just to understand what kind of garbage is being pumped into the minds of much of my family and most of my former co-workers in Silicon Valley.

Anyway, understanding a system (e.g., the burgeoning Technocracy) is key to exploiting it.  So, research up no matter what side you choose.

[Jet Cash]

But what we really want to know is if a person has long term immunity, and not if they have a few viral particles in their mucus. mucosal virus entrapment is one of out first lines of defence, and if this is the only place viral RNA can be detected, them the person isn't infected. As I understand it, very few people are tested to see if they have immunity. Even the post vaccination tests just check for antibodies, and without a natural way to create target specific antibodies, you don't have immunity. Viruses are countered by a whole variety of natural methods - apoptosis, destruction by killer cells, smothering by protective sells, binding with non-productive cells, the simple expedient of ejection by the body, and a number of other methods.

So what is the point of spending £120 on a useless test that will probably just result in you buying some destructive pharmaceuticals. It's the medical equivalent of the false car MOT reports that are designed to generate more work for the garage.

[bakasabo]

The only reason I see why people should pay for covid testing is to reduce amount of people who wants to run testing every day, every hour.
There will be people who will wish to do test after every shop visit or crowded place.

Imagine situation, when you need to be limit your time in crowded places, but you go to the mall on Monday, to the movie on Tuesday, Wednesday and Friday are gym days (even when they are closed, people still find the way to use them), Thursday you spend time in the bar. 5 days, 5 tests. So far these tests are not unlimited.

Other situation - with free testing we got 250-300 cased daily in your country. When people were asked to pay for the test, we had around 30 cases daily. The whole situation with paid tests are both stupid and useful.

[Renampun]

in my country, in order to get on the train, we need a covid19 test...
The residents are actually forced to pay for the covid19 test so as not to obstruct activities during this outbreak, even though it is quite cheap, many are actually unwilling to pay for the covid19 test.

[BADecker]

in my country, in order to get on the train, we need a covid19 test...
The residents are actually forced to pay for the covid19 test so as not to obstruct activities during this outbreak, even though it is quite cheap, many are actually unwilling to pay for the covid19 test.

That's the trouble with all countries... even the USA. Is your body your own? Does the comb in your pocket belong to you? Is your car yours? Or do all these things belong to the State?

If my body is mine, and I don't want a Covid test, are there not more people who don't want a Covid test? Yes! There are many more people who don't want a Covid test. Rather than test the people who don't want it, set up a train where all the people who don't want the test can ride without a test. Then set up all kinds of areas where people who don't want to follow the masks and lockdowns can live without these. Even set up cities for them. There are many people who are like this.

In addition, it's your body. If government is going to be fair, when they require something about your body, they should at least pay you... not you pay them.

Your government leaders are not being fair. They are even being dictatorial. They are being just like Hitler and Stalin and many other Communistic and Dictatorship oriented leaders of the world. And they are even starting to get violent about it. They are taking your freedom away by force with regard to Covid. What they are doing is just the same as Hitler and Stalin.

Want freedom? Fight the unfairness in what they are doing to you. Push them into developing full access to all the liberties that the people have who want to be tested. Tested people can ride the train and go to the store and everywhere else. Set up a section of the country where the untested people can have the same freedoms. Then, split the nation into two parts, a free part, and a part that is held down by government tests and are forced to pay for it.

The people of the USA are rather ignorant. Sure, they know that they can hold rallies. But they need to do two things on every level:
1. If government asks them to do anything, government pays for it;
2. If government asks them to do anything they don't want to do, government needs to set up free locations for them to live without it.

[Jet Cash]

The basic flaw in the whole concept is that all of the reports discuss the spread of infection. Now to gain immunity, you have to be infected first. This can be a natural process resulting from mixing with infected people, or an artificial process based of vaccination using synthetic viruses that bypass the normal immune system, and this means they need toxic adjuvants to trigger a reaction. What should be reported is the spread on immunity, and not the spread of possible infections that created immunity in the testee.

[franky1]

in my country, in order to get on the train, we need a covid19 test...
The residents are actually forced to pay for the covid19 test so as not to obstruct activities during this outbreak, even though it is quite cheap, many are actually unwilling to pay for the covid19 test.

That's the trouble with all countries... even the USA. Is your body your own? Does the comb in your pocket belong to you? Is your car yours? Or do all these things belong to the State?

If my body is mine, and I don't want a Covid test,..., set up a train where all the people who don't want the test can ride without a test.

but the train is not yours. so if you want to aces someone elses property. then you have to follow their rules for which they will allow you access.

if you do not like those rules. then get your own car and make your own journey your own way. but be careful the roads do not belong to you. so be prepared for the rules of the road which you have to follow if you want granted access to the roads.

[Xembin]

Covid-19 is real but many people in some community are still thinking is a scam. I am not a doctor but use to listen to doctors instruction very well . Since this virus came up to killed so many people in the country many still in isolation center receiving treatment but still people don't still believe the test.
Maintaining social distance and washing of hands does not cause you any thing. It can just only prevent you from the virus. Running tests in my country is free of charge and the treatment is free. But the government don't joke with lockdown because if you disobey they will file you big money.

[Fortify]

I think lots of people will be willing to pay for Covid testing. There are a lot of people who have relatives and friends who live overseas. Many countries now require one or two exit covid tests, if you do not get them you will be required to quarantine in the country you want to visit. Lots of people are simply unable to spare 2 weeks extra on their holiday in order to be able to do what they want and they will be more than willing to pay for this sort of testing. As long as it reaches a clinical standard that is accepted elsewhere, it does help to give people peace of mind at a cost and that can only be a good thing.

[BADecker]

in my country, in order to get on the train, we need a covid19 test...
The residents are actually forced to pay for the covid19 test so as not to obstruct activities during this outbreak, even though it is quite cheap, many are actually unwilling to pay for the covid19 test.

That's the trouble with all countries... even the USA. Is your body your own? Does the comb in your pocket belong to you? Is your car yours? Or do all these things belong to the State?

If my body is mine, and I don't want a Covid test,..., set up a train where all the people who don't want the test can ride without a test.

but the train is not yours. so if you want to aces someone elses property. then you have to follow their rules for which they will allow you access.

if you do not like those rules. then get your own car and make your own journey your own way. but be careful the roads do not belong to you. so be prepared for the rules of the road which you have to follow if you want granted access to the roads.

I am totally in agreement with this. But if government orders me to use the roads this or that way, I have the right to travel with my property as I wish. The roads are public property. In the USA, the right to travel stems out of court cases based on the First Amendment.

If any government official orders me to do anything with my property, my body, my car, my right to travel, let him prove in court that he has the right to order me, and that it was indeed an order, and that I am required to obey the order. No proof? Pay me for ordering without the authority to do so.

[squatz1]

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Well, people would pay for a Covid test in order to find out if they have COVID.

If you pay for the rapid test, then yes there is a higher chance of you having a false pos/neg.

If you pay for the regular test, which is the one that goes pretty far into your nose, then your chance of a false pos/neg are pretty low.

Not really sure why everything has to be a conspiracy for ya Jet Cash.

[ololajulo]

Seeing some countries make provision for free testing, it makes paying from other countries irresponsible for there leaders, however the testing is costly and most citizens cant afford it. More attention is shifting from testing to prevention and curing. The chance of been 100% protected is reducing with the rate of spread especially for a virus that can be active on surface for over 72 hours, everyone maybe more vulnerable. So more funding is in the prevention, curing and Vaccines.