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November 05, 2020, 03:05:39 PM
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  • Bitcoin should account for 70% to 80% of your portfolio.

Super great advice you've given on here for general trading. I really would like to emphasise the importance of portfolio proportion and how BTC should be among the highest.

The reason for reiterating this is that I find it so fundamental to trading that often many people forget or don't think about how the market really is dictated by BTC and as long as you give yourself that higher proportion you can in a more 'safer' way explore the market conditions with the alts while always having that BTC to back you up. It's super important.

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November 05, 2020, 03:30:55 PM
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First to say it's a big difference between $100 and $10k! Whatever goal you have 10%, 50%, x2, x3.... is a lot more from $10k than from $100, but you risk more money. It's a situation where you need to make a trade with $10 and you just click the button and do it, with +$1000 (for many even lower than that) your hands are shaking, your mind is going crazy... it's the same in gambling, with lower amounts it's easier to gamble than with huge amounts.
My trades are usually around $100, and it's the amount I feel relaxed with. And I think people should trade/gamble with the amount they feel relaxed with, if you make some profit great, do it again, if you lose some/all it's not a big deal you will try again with new deposit! It's going better when you are relaxed and objective than in moments when you are stressed and you hope for the best or else you are screwed!

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November 05, 2020, 08:22:09 PM
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I think a high capital won't make you success in crypto trading or you aren't guarantee to get a profit. It doesn't makes sense when you have $10000 in your capital and start trading but you have no strategy to start. Yeah, rely on someone else signal is useless at the end it just make you a short term profit.

But, when you have many understanding against trading you have a chance to success in crypto trading, believe me. Moreover now, there is a laverage system who will make you have a high capital, it will be the same when you have $100 and you use 10 laverage and you will feel you are trading with $10.000 and that is real. And it is good for you when you have a good knowledge how to trade well.
Having more money is not going to make a you a better trader, but using leverage is completely unjustified especially if you are a newbie, leverage for the most part is seen as a way to multiply your money really quickly on the markets but it is in fact just a way to increase your exposure to the market and as such your risk.

And the main difference between the good and the bad traders is how much they expose themselves to risk and for the most part those that end up being bankrupt take too much risk while those that make money in the markets take as little risk as possible on each of their trades.

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November 05, 2020, 10:37:49 PM
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Trading capital matters because trading is all about percentage of income. The more you can dominate the market, the more you can win the trades. If you have 100k usd, you can have 1k usd when you hit 10% of your trades but it took 1000% percent before you hit 1k usd  if you have 100 bucks only. High capital gives you high result, that's the math of trading.

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November 05, 2020, 10:58:08 PM
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  • Bitcoin should account for 70% to 80% of your portfolio.

Super great advice you've given on here for general trading. I really would like to emphasise the importance of portfolio proportion and how BTC should be among the highest.

The reason for reiterating this is that I find it so fundamental to trading that often many people forget or don't think about how the market really is dictated by BTC and as long as you give yourself that higher proportion you can in a more 'safer' way explore the market conditions with the alts while always having that BTC to back you up. It's super important.

But there are people whom do make out their portfolio which is only composed lower than 50% and mainly focused with alts.They should really changed up their minds and 80% is indeed
the best proportion.

People will just realize it on how BTC is the main player when it comes to dictation so its better to stick with it.For in talks about how much capital then it wouldnt really matter

as long you do know how to play with the movement then it doesnt care if you do have less or lots because outcome or result would be always proportion to that.

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November 05, 2020, 11:49:38 PM
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We don't get mad if we are not able to get huge profits from trading if we just have a small capital. Trading capital matters a lot as the profits will be depending on your capital invested. People who have more than enough capital will likely gain more or to lose more but they are not thinking about losing because they are already prepared for the consequences and they know what they are doing. So there is no need to question why I only got this and that? If we want more, then increase our capital. And it is clear enough and very understandable.

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November 06, 2020, 05:21:41 AM
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Yes there is a difference especially with leveraged trading. Say you buy BTC at $10000 and you are paying 0.1% fee, so round trip its 0.2% so about $20 in fees. Now consider that you have an account with $10000 in it, if you get out at break even you still have $9980.

Now consider you got an $100 account, you go 100x on the trade, so same principal and closed at break-even, your account is now $80. Hence a huge portion is lost due to fees. Hence why its very difficult to make large sums of money with small accounts. Those people you hear who went 100x and made like $1000 from $100 got extremely lucky and doesn't really happen all too often.





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November 06, 2020, 12:32:04 PM
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I am a practical answer of this question. I started with a poor amount and still The amount is 4 times better than my 1st investment. Good observation and good timing can be the best thing in this sction. A larger amount does help sometimes but to grow here skills and observation  policy is more important.

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November 06, 2020, 12:43:47 PM
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Yes there is a difference especially with leveraged trading. Say you buy BTC at $10000 and you are paying 0.1% fee, so round trip its 0.2% so about $20 in fees. Now consider that you have an account with $10000 in it, if you get out at break even you still have $9980.

Now consider you got an $100 account, you go 100x on the trade, so same principal and closed at break-even, your account is now $80. Hence a huge portion is lost due to fees. Hence why its very difficult to make large sums of money with small accounts. Those people you hear who went 100x and made like $1000 from $100 got extremely lucky and doesn't really happen all too often.
You do not pay the same amount of fee when it comes down to 100 dollars and 10k. If you pay 0.1 fee for 10k to make it 10 bucks, you also pay the same 0.1 for 100 dollars which comes down to 0.1 dollars or 10 cents, which means you need to make 0.20 in order to break even, so at 99.80 in that case.

However where you are right is the fact that between depositing cash, trading to bitcoin and paying a fee, making a profit, and trading fee back to fiat and back to your bank account, your 100 dollars would be basically all gone, in a situation where you need to transfer your bitcoins somewhere else which could take as high as 10 bucks these days due to high blockchain fee, we are talking about basically nothing with a 100 dollar investment whereas 10k could do a lot better for those things and cover it with a small increase.

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I think the answer will be depend on what kind of trader are you, there are 3 kinds of traders which are the level 1 trader who are new in the market or what we can say the beginner. The next trader is the level 2 trader where he/she have now foundation in trading and he/she needs mastery and consistency in order to go in the next level trader which is the level 3 where it can considered as professional because of experiences and knowledge that he get from the past years in trading. Those type 3 trader are the one who usually posting snapshot of their winnings in their past trades. So let's back to the topic, If the trader is a level 1 trader or a beginner in the market; it is not advisable to invest $10,000 because for sure that he/she can lose it in just matter of weeks or even days. A level 1 trader should put small money first where it can considered as trial account. There are some level 1 trader who usually go all in where they will invest all of their savings in their first account in certain exchange and then later they will regret their decision after they lose the money that they invested.

If a certain trader already achieved the level trader or the professional level then it is time that it is advisable to invest big amount of money like $10,000 or more. This kind of trader for sure have good risk management where for them there are only 3 possibilities which are win big, win small and lose small. Losing big is the one that they are avoiding through risk management. A lot of opportunities that a level 3 trader can get if they invested high capital because they can maximize the gains. For those who are still in level 2, I advise to lower the trading capital first because it is considered as training or practice portfolio. I always saying for those who want to become successful in trading, if you are new focusing on learning first than in earning. Your goal should get a lot of experience first and not to gain huge amount of money. The profit will come if you are able to feed your mind by learning a lot of ideas and concepts that you can use in order to be profitable trader. 

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November 06, 2020, 02:56:03 PM
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Trading capital matters because trading is all about percentage of income. The more you can dominate the market, the more you can win the trades. If you have 100k usd, you can have 1k usd when you hit 10% of your trades but it took 1000% percent before you hit 1k usd  if you have 100 bucks only. High capital gives you high result, that's the math of trading.
This is true. I think this kind of style is called scalping. Capital does really matter in trading. You can do this kind of trade if you have a huge amount of capital. You can profit with small price changes in a short amount of time.

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It is always better to have a good amount of money as your capital while trading because there is a big possibility that you may lose right away for the first time so what if you only have few amounts of capital then the ending is you will leave or quit trading because you don't have money anymore to trade, you just wasted your money if that would happen. most of the successful traders have good enough money and source of income as well to sustain their trading strategies so if you are unfortunate one does not take the risk.

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November 06, 2020, 03:33:36 PM
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Trading capital matters because trading is all about percentage of income. The more you can dominate the market, the more you can win the trades. If you have 100k usd, you can have 1k usd when you hit 10% of your trades but it took 1000% percent before you hit 1k usd  if you have 100 bucks only. High capital gives you high result, that's the math of trading.
This is true. I think this kind of style is called scalping. Capital does really matter in trading. You can do this kind of trade if you have a huge amount of capital. You can profit with small price changes in a short amount of time.

But if the coin can not go up and down for the price, you will be difficult to scalping because the price will not move as you want. Bigger capital doesn't mean you can make a big profit because you still need to determine the time to buy and sell. The important thing is you have the skills to analyze to find the coin, so you can execute by buying low and sell high. No matter how much your money, if you don't have skills, that will be difficult to make a profit, even for just $10.

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First to say it's a big difference between $100 and $10k! Whatever goal you have 10%, 50%, x2, x3.... is a lot more from $10k than from $100, but you risk more money. It's a situation where you need to make a trade with $10 and you just click the button and do it, with +$1000 (for many even lower than that) your hands are shaking, your mind is going crazy... it's the same in gambling, with lower amounts it's easier to gamble than with huge amounts.
My trades are usually around $100, and it's the amount I feel relaxed with. And I think people should trade/gamble with the amount they feel relaxed with, if you make some profit great, do it again, if you lose some/all it's not a big deal you will try again with new deposit! It's going better when you are relaxed and objective than in moments when you are stressed and you hope for the best or else you are screwed!

Agreed, as you said, it better to trade on what amount you can afford to lose, just like gambling.
But can you say crypto/forex trading is gambling? even with the right amount of knowledge at your disposal
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Trading capital matters because trading is all about percentage of income. The more you can dominate the market, the more you can win the trades. If you have 100k usd, you can have 1k usd when you hit 10% of your trades but it took 1000% percent before you hit 1k usd  if you have 100 bucks only. High capital gives you high result, that's the math of trading.
This is true. I think this kind of style is called scalping. Capital does really matter in trading. You can do this kind of trade if you have a huge amount of capital. You can profit with small price changes in a short amount of time.
Scalping is the worst and respectful form of losing capital in volatile markets because only bots can beat the speed of price action with different limit orders. The scalpers usually stare on the screen for a long time but pro scalpers only for low volatile altcoins with automated scripts. In the end, both traders lose..

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November 06, 2020, 11:12:04 PM
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I hear some people that doing trades and complaining about their trading capital.

So, does trading capital really matter at all?
Are there any disadvantages to having a low capital the higher one?

My point is, having a higher trading capital will make you a good trader or successful trader?
Because what I think is if you have high capital, the risk is high for sure yet the reward is also high, but when you have low trading it's still the same, you got low risk and still low reward.
trading capital should not be problem for us now since almost all exchanges provide margin trading feature, it will give us many advantages for our capital. even we only have $100 , in trading margin it could multiplied till 50x   for several pairs. by this ,now we could focus improve our skill in techical or fundamental that be most problem for trader. at this moment to many signal provider that make us lazy to improve trading skill.

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November 06, 2020, 11:20:50 PM
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Agreed, as you said, it better to trade on what amount you can afford to lose, just like gambling.
But can you say crypto/forex trading is gambling? even with the right amount of knowledge at your disposal
It is what traders or any kind of risk taker must do.

Always use an amount as capital that's very affordable to lose. This is a very simple reminder but do you think that many are losing? especially if the market is going up like this time.

Greed is starting to get us again and in the end, many will fail.

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November 06, 2020, 11:37:22 PM
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Agreed, as you said, it better to trade on what amount you can afford to lose, just like gambling.
But can you say crypto/forex trading is gambling? even with the right amount of knowledge at your disposal

It depends on how you feel about cryptocurrency. If you treat trading like gambling, you won't analyze the market by choosing at random between long and short. In this case, you may be able to earn money, but this tactic will definitely lead to the loss of the deposit.





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November 07, 2020, 03:01:26 PM
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I hear some people that doing trades and complaining about their trading capital.

So, does trading capital really matter at all?
Are there any disadvantages to having a low capital the higher one?

My point is, having a higher trading capital will make you a good trader or successful trader?
Because what I think is if you have high capital, the risk is high for sure yet the reward is also high, but when you have low trading it's still the same, you got low risk and still low reward.
Well it’s normal for people to complain about their capital when they see that there are others that are trading with huge capital and raking in lots of profit due to their huge capital.

But, everyone should learn to manage what they have and cut the coat by their size. If you work hard and make steady profit you will cover up and be bigger and have enough. Bigger capital gives you bigger returns, but if you have small capital and you’re the pro in trading, and can maintain the steady profit, then you’re better than someone with big pockets.

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November 07, 2020, 03:28:48 PM
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There's no difference at all it's just that if you have high capital you will earn high and if you have low capital you will earn low. Still if you earn 10% from $100 you still earn 10% too from $10,000 so I don't think there's no differences in terms of risk and advantage.

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