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November 03, 2020, 10:00:34 PM
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Donaire has been counted out by experts for a while now. His best years might be past him but he is still able to compete at the top level. Size and experience will be in Donaire's favor. We have not seen enough of Oubaali against high level fighters but as the defending champion and younger fighter I think he will be considered the favorite by most people.

I don't think that Nonito Donaire is way past his prime, he can still punch and has fought the best in the WBSS tournament. Donaire has fought a lot of fighters with Oubaali type and built before and he had successes against them. It's good that Oubaali will be the favourite here, would be very attractive to beat for Nonito.

I still have the Filipino Flash by UD or if by chance, can score a knock out, as he still have some power, specially that signature left hook of Nonito. And one advantage is that he is the taller guy here so he can see when Oubaali starts to charge and be ready with the counter.
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November 03, 2020, 10:47:20 PM
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After Donaire's performance against Inoue I have strong faith that he can win this fight against Oubaali, Oubaali is the one who beat Inoue's younger brother to win the title, there was no slowdown and weakening on Donaire's power and he is still a very top fighter at his age, he can take Oubaali's power because he is not powerful like Inoue.

Maybe he's age really affects his K.O capabilities but he still have everything, I saw also that fight against Inoue he still wanted to show his skills but Inoue just accepting the punch and ignoring it.

I'll go for Doniare as I believe that this man already trained back unlike when he fight Inoue where he missed long time inside the ring before deciding to comeback and fight Inoue.

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November 03, 2020, 10:54:29 PM
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After Donaire's performance against Inoue I have strong faith that he can win this fight against Oubaali, Oubaali is the one who beat Inoue's younger brother to win the title, there was no slowdown and weakening on Donaire's power and he is still a very top fighter at his age, he can take Oubaali's power because he is not powerful like Inoue.

Maybe he's age really affects his K.O capabilities but he still have everything, I saw also that fight against Inoue he still wanted to show his skills but Inoue just accepting the punch and ignoring it.

I'll go for Doniare as I believe that this man already trained back unlike when he fight Inoue where he missed long time inside the ring before deciding to comeback and fight Inoue.
Neither he trained not that active before that Inoue fight or he had, there are no footages nor news about on what he's been doing that's why its really wrong to presume out that
he aint still making his body in good shape or doesn't really train at all.Its just a lame excuse to tell.

Nonito Donaire isn't still old and do still have the fire power even though his speed isn't really just the same on his prime where you would really be amazed with
good counter attacks that had been made which do really knocked out lots of opponents that he had.

My bet surely goes for Donaire and I don't still have doubts about his capability.

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November 03, 2020, 11:16:18 PM
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I don't think that Nonito Donaire is way past his prime, he can still punch and has fought the best in the WBSS tournament. Donaire has fought a lot of fighters with Oubaali type and built before and he had successes against them. It's good that Oubaali will be the favourite here, would be very attractive to beat for Nonito.

His performance in WBSS is impressive. Not showing any signs of that he is way past his prime. He even gives the crowd favorite Inoue a hard fight in the final match. The fight against Oubaali will be another ticket for his rank-up. But he must not take easy on this fighter. Oubaali has a notable fight too.

Nonito is still in his shape as long as he will stay around the bantamweight class. He can handle all fighters here fair and square. But higher than that, it's a big no.
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November 04, 2020, 12:39:46 AM
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I don't think that Nonito Donaire is way past his prime, he can still punch and has fought the best in the WBSS tournament. Donaire has fought a lot of fighters with Oubaali type and built before and he had successes against them. It's good that Oubaali will be the favourite here, would be very attractive to beat for Nonito.

His performance in WBSS is impressive. Not showing any signs of that he is way past his prime. He even gives the crowd favorite Inoue a hard fight in the final match. The fight against Oubaali will be another ticket for his rank-up. But he must not take easy on this fighter. Oubaali has a notable fight too.

Nonito is still in his shape as long as he will stay around the bantamweight class. He can handle all fighters here fair and square. But higher than that, it's a big no.

I think this is a perfect fight for Donaire, as he can showcase his wares against a tough fighter in Oubaali. As for the betting favorites, it will be close, I don't think that Oubaali will be the outstanding favorites as Donaire even though has age already, has still some pop on his punch.

Yes, Nonito should be in 110% in perfect shape to be able to beat Oubaali. He did try to go up in weight, but he was knockout by Nicholas Walters, and as he age, he should be fighting in this division and could beat anyone maybe except Inoue.

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November 04, 2020, 01:12:58 AM
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Nonito Donaire will surely bounce back this time and this will be an exciting match again, hopefully he can bring proud to Philippines again just like many boxer. I'll go for Nonito on this match, he's eager to win the title again after falling short on his last fight. Well, Nordine is not an easy opponent after all so Nonito must do everything and train harder, he's not old yet so I'm sure he can give a great fight again.
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November 04, 2020, 01:24:32 AM
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Nonito Donaire will surely bounce back this time and this will be an exciting match again, hopefully he can bring proud to Philippines again just like many boxer. I'll go for Nonito on this match, he's eager to win the title again after falling short on his last fight. Well, Nordine is not an easy opponent after all so Nonito must do everything and train harder, he's not old yet so I'm sure he can give a great fight again.
Sorry to interrupt your prediction but I don't think there is an assurance about Nonito Donaire Winning this Bout.
Nordine Oubaali is a tough Boxer with no loss and all Knockout wins,in this we can see how hard Nonito can win this fight.
and upon checking the recent fight of Oubaali i found out that He once Beat the famous and Inoue bringing Him best in this division.
But of course Boxing is sometimes with luck,If you Hit the opponent in perfect timing and combination then the chance of winning is there.

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November 04, 2020, 02:05:09 AM
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Guys what do you think about this fight both are champions and whoever will win this fight will gonna fight Inoue in he does not want to fight Casimero.
I think this will come for Oubaali,Donaire is not like what he use to be in His younger age,Now He is slower and Punches is not that powerful like in the past.
So i think He will be defeated in this one again.
Whatever the result will be I'm sure these both boxers will show us entertainment as both of them are know to be knockout artists especially Donaire in his prime.
Well If Nordine wins this Fight then He will also beat Inoue as he did this recently .
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On Saturday, December 12 at the Mohegan Sun Casino in Uncasville, USA Nordine Oubaali will meet Nonito «The Filipino Flash» Donaire for the WBC title in a 12-round bantamweight bout.

https://champinon.info/schedule/oubaali-vs-donaire/
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November 04, 2020, 02:59:24 AM
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Looking at the tale of the tape, i could say that Nonito Donaire have the advantage of this fight, that may be the reason why persuaded Top Rank to give him this fight.
But is this the Boxer who defeat Inoue?(am not sure of this one)and also having 0 loss meaning this is a Great boxer also so with that Donaire is facing a hard fight here,Oubaali has 17 Knockouts with good reach and strong stamina,with Speed .This will be one of the toughest fight this year from Our Filipino fighters.
Inoue, of course is eyeing to fight the winner of this mtch as either of them is very beatable. Though a Donaire fan, i see him on the losing end again in the rematch as Inoue already figured out how to handle the Filipino Flash.
Donaire lose to inoue while inoue lose to Oubaali this is a good trilogy fight i guess,because the winner will face Inoue again for the Second time.

There is no trilogy here. Inoue is undefeated. I'm referring to Naoya. Oubaali and Naoya didn't face each other inside the ring. It was Takuma Inoue, the younger brother of Naoya, who had a match against Oubaali, in which Oubaali won by UD. Which means Oubaali does not have 17 KOs in his record because he's only got 17 fights in total. He only has 12 wins by KO.

Anyway, I am for Oubaali here. Nonito has lost much of his power and speed already.

Nonito Donaire is quite being the next Pacquiao of the Philippines...

That's more than a decade ago. And Nonito fell short of the expectation.

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November 04, 2020, 03:46:40 AM
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Nonito Donaire is quite being the next Pacquiao of the Philippines, he also dominated his previous fight with Nordine but who are we to judge already? There's always room for improvement for Nordine to take revenge against Nonito, and this tension is what makes this match exciting.

If I were to place a for this match, I will consider betting for Nonito. Not just a support for the country, but I see his skill way faster and better than Nordine, with the performance he is showing, it's a big sign for another win.

Both were good fighter and will surely did their best during the fight at the ring. Both were physically fit and has a high potential for the game to be amazing game to watch for. But we have our own bet about this game so me either i'll quick choose Nonito Donaire to place my bet. Well im not that quiet lucky bettor but at this point i have this gut feeling that i may win this bet of mine with Nonito.

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November 04, 2020, 04:13:06 AM
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Nonito Donaire will surely bounce back this time and this will be an exciting match again, hopefully he can bring proud to Philippines again just like many boxer. I'll go for Nonito on this match, he's eager to win the title again after falling short on his last fight. Well, Nordine is not an easy opponent after all so Nonito must do everything and train harder, he's not old yet so I'm sure he can give a great fight again.

If he does so, then I think he will have a chance to get a re-match with Inoue and when that happened, he is not going to be like he was in their first fight or else he will go down like morales when he fought Pacquaio in their 3rd fight. He needs to focus on his speed and power because Inoue will likely over speed him with that right hook. Also, before that, he needs to get through with this storm because Oubaali is not like his past opponents. If he brings some sort of new technique in the ring the fight will not reach the 12 rounds.


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November 04, 2020, 04:38:36 AM
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Guys what do you think about this fight both are champions and whoever will win this fight will gonna fight Inoue in he does not want to fight Casimero. Whatever the result will be I'm sure these both boxers will show us entertainment as both of them are know to be knockout artists especially Donaire in his prime.




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On Saturday, December 12 at the Mohegan Sun Casino in Uncasville, USA Nordine Oubaali will meet Nonito «The Filipino Flash» Donaire for the WBC title in a 12-round bantamweight bout.

https://champinon.info/schedule/oubaali-vs-donaire/
Our Kababayan will Win on this for sure,With his experience and stamina?no wonder this will end of Him winning the game.

And will Fight Inoue again but this time with revenge and more dedication.

But of course Nordine is one great boxer also,lets see what it takes to win the battle.

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November 04, 2020, 06:34:50 AM
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I thought Nonito already retired about the Inoue fight, he was lucky that his been given another opportunity to crack Inoue again if he will win against Oubaali. I think this is enough motivation for him and prepare harder again, he still has some power in this weight division although it will be a big challenge to fight another young guy because stamina wise he is at a disadvantage. But if he can get past Oubaali, then he has the experience to crack the enigma of Inoue as he fought a very close fight and almost win. He even broke Inoue's orbital bone, if this happens early in the fight, Inoue could have lost against him.
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November 04, 2020, 06:43:19 AM
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This is a great fight for Nonito Donaire, his opponent is younger than him but not too young like Inoue.

Oubaali is 34 years old while Donaire is 37 years old.
This is the type of fight where Donaire likes to, because he can use his height and reach advantage.

https://sportometer.net/boxing/nonito-donaire-vs-nordine-oubaali---115-116



As of now, there's no betting odds for this fight yet, hopefully soon it will be available.

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November 04, 2020, 04:55:00 PM
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As of now, there's no betting odds for this fight yet, hopefully soon it will be available.
Well, for sure there is.
Based on the tale of the tape, -- Donaire has an edge on this fight knowing of his loss with Inoue this upcoming fight is different, and rest assure Donaire right now is more eager to redeem himself and have a rematch with him. We can't underestimate Oubaali because of what he has also shown us as he defeated Takuma Inoue by a unanimous decision, but fighting against Donaire I really doubt that he will be able to win in this game. If I will be placing a bet in this fight I will still put my wager with Donaire for he has proven himself in this sport though Oubaali has shown excellence as well in comparison with Donaire I can still say he is still young and unripe only.









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November 04, 2020, 05:37:27 PM
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I thought Nonito already retired about the Inoue fight, he was lucky that his been given another opportunity to crack Inoue again if he will win against Oubaali.
I also thought after that fight with Inoue he's already done and willing to rest and live a normal life away from the ring. But it's good to see him back and ready to fight knowing his capabilities when he still on he's prime.

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I think this is enough motivation for him and prepare harder again, he still has some power in this weight division although it will be a big challenge to fight another young guy because stamina wise he is at a disadvantage.
well, for fighters / champ like him, there's always a desire to take the shot.  He just need to win over Oubaali and if after that both camps agree for the said rematch that will be an interesting fight for sure.

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But if he can get past Oubaali, then he has the experience to crack the enigma of Inoue as he fought a very close fight and almost win. He even broke Inoue's orbital bone, if this happens early in the fight, Inoue could have lost against him.
I can agree to that. But let see if what fate will be there for Donaire, for now better to enjoy watching this incoming fight.


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November 14, 2020, 09:42:12 PM
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Update on this fight, Oubaalii is out, Emmanuel Rodriguez.

And what happens to Oubaalii? positive for Covid-19,

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Nordine Oubaali has dropped out of a bantamweight world title defense against mandatory challenger and four-division champion Nonito Donaire because he is ill with Covid-19, not because he had issues securing a visa to travel from his native France to the United States.

BoxingScene.com reported Thursday that visa issues caused Oubaali to withdraw from the Donaire fight, but contracting COVID-19 has prevented him from training recently.

“Oubaali is positive for Covid-19. That is why he is out of the fight. It has nothing to do with his visa,” Bob Yalen, the CEO of Oubaali adviser MTK Global, told BoxingScene on Friday. “This is strictly for the health and safety of the boxer. He has the virus and he has not been able to train effectively for the past two weeks. Nordine was really excited about the fight. He was all fired up for the fight.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/oubaali-out-donaire-fight-he-covid-19-says-adviser--153232

I guess the OP needs to update the thread will Rodriguez vs Donaire now. No need to create a separate thread though, it's good enough for boxing fans to see Donaire fight another boxer and then continue with the discussion.  Smiley fight also reset to Dec. 19.

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November 14, 2020, 09:59:00 PM
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So another boxer is down with the virus, at least they have find a replacement on Rodriguez which is also a tougher match for Donaire since we all know that Donaire is slowly ageing already. And Rodriguez' only lost came from the hands of Inoue. Looking at his boxrec here: https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/614887, seems a decent fighter. But I think with Donaire's experience, he can beat Rodriguez by decision or by another highlight knockout, his left hook.

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November 14, 2020, 11:16:55 PM
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So another boxer is down with the virus, at least they have find a replacement on Rodriguez which is also a tougher match for Donaire since we all know that Donaire is slowly ageing already. And Rodriguez' only lost came from the hands of Inoue. Looking at his boxrec here: https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/614887, seems a decent fighter. But I think with Donaire's experience, he can beat Rodriguez by decision or by another highlight knockout, his left hook.

The odds will favour Donaire here, I guess. And let's hope, no one will contract the virus just before the fight. Seems that sportsbookies haven't picked this match yet. This will be the comeback of Donaire if he will win this match.
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November 14, 2020, 11:28:42 PM
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So another boxer is down with the virus, at least they have find a replacement on Rodriguez which is also a tougher match for Donaire since we all know that Donaire is slowly ageing already. And Rodriguez' only lost came from the hands of Inoue. Looking at his boxrec here: https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/614887, seems a decent fighter. But I think with Donaire's experience, he can beat Rodriguez by decision or by another highlight knockout, his left hook.

The odds will favour Donaire here, I guess. And let's hope, no one will contract the virus just before the fight. Seems that sportsbookies haven't picked this match yet.

I would also go with Donaire, it's a kind of fight that Donaire like since he has the reach advantage and the height, I never saw a small fighter beat Donaire in his division now. Betting odds will not be available until first week before the fight will happen, that's normal for a non popular bout I guess.

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Donaire loss to Inoue but he was an underdog of that fight, here, I think he will be the favorite.

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