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November 06, 2020, 01:48:00 PM
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Joe Biden may look favorite to win this election but still there is no official announcement of the results.

Joe Biden is only narrowly ahead of Donald Trump and Trump may not accept the results.




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November 06, 2020, 02:09:12 PM
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Joe Biden may look favorite to win this election but still there is no official announcement of the results.

Joe Biden is only narrowly ahead of Donald Trump and Trump may not accept the results.
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Care to explain what's the impact on gambling like the title suggests?

Other than those who made a bet on this election, how will gamblers be affected or the gambling industry in general? I'm personally not concern whatever the result will be. No effect on my gambling strategies whatsoever.
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November 06, 2020, 02:29:10 PM
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I don't know what impact it has exactly, but you do see those elections on all gambling sites that you can bet on. Nice that that is possible nowadays. I just want to know how the probabilities are calculated, after all, there are a lot of factors.

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November 06, 2020, 03:12:11 PM
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I don't know what impact it has exactly, but you do see those elections on all gambling sites that you can bet on. Nice that that is possible nowadays. I just want to know how the probabilities are calculated, after all, there are a lot of factors.

These days almost all the betting and gambling sites allow you to bet on such big events. Most popular ones being stake and freebitco. You have to bet your money on either one to the two candidate and you will either win or lose based upon who win the election. It should have been straight forward win or lose but since the election results are unclear, people will have to wait few more days before they know who is the next president of USA.
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November 06, 2020, 03:26:02 PM
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In recent years, most presidents of the United States have been elected for the second time.  but Trump seems to be losing this election.  Although a clearer explanation is not given, many people now think that this is the case.  we will see the winner together at the end of the day.
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November 06, 2020, 03:26:51 PM
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I don't know what impact it has exactly, but you do see those elections on all gambling sites that you can bet on. Nice that that is possible nowadays. I just want to know how the probabilities are calculated, after all, there are a lot of factors.

These days almost all the betting and gambling sites allow you to bet on such big events. Most popular ones being stake and freebitco. You have to bet your money on either one to the two candidate and you will either win or lose based upon who win the election. It should have been straight forward win or lose but since the election results are unclear, people will have to wait few more days before they know who is the next president of USA.
If I am one of the citizens of America, I will choose Joe Biden for a new and fresh start in the US government because Trump has a bad reputation already and I think the USA citizens need a new president for a new beginning and platform to look forward because it is indeed proven and tested that their past president (if ever) is not that totally reliable and responsible after a lot issues  about him.

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November 06, 2020, 03:41:10 PM
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I don't think there's any global impact of the elections on gambling, only on those bets related to Presidential elections that people made (including me). Biden is likely to win the electoral college, but there's still a tiny chance that Trump will win it. Moreover, there's a solid chance that Trump will use the loopholes in the US legislation to stay in power. He can and already  did start by not conceding in the election night as well as lawsuits alleging fraud, and he can also try to campaign for the electors, and then there's a bunch of other things he can do (here's a good video about it).

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November 06, 2020, 04:18:50 PM
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I don't know what impact a presidential election of a country will have on crypto gambling! Are you thinking about some policy change kind of thing where US will be opening up for online gambling? If it happens, then definitely it will have a big impact on crypto gambling market because we will start seeing new players coming into the market. But that's highly unlikely to happen!

I don't think of anything else out of this entire election drama! Trump behaves and sounds like mentally ill, seriously!

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November 06, 2020, 04:27:17 PM
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I don't know what impact it has exactly, but you do see those elections on all gambling sites that you can bet on. Nice that that is possible nowadays. I just want to know how the probabilities are calculated, after all, there are a lot of factors.

These days almost all the betting and gambling sites allow you to bet on such big events. Most popular ones being stake and freebitco. You have to bet your money on either one to the two candidate and you will either win or lose based upon who win the election. It should have been straight forward win or lose but since the election results are unclear, people will have to wait few more days before they know who is the next president of USA.
If I am one of the citizens of America, I will choose Joe Biden for a new and fresh start in the US government because Trump has a bad reputation already and I think the USA citizens need a new president for a new beginning and platform to look forward because it is indeed proven and tested that their past president (if ever) is not that totally reliable and responsible after a lot issues  about him.

When it comes to negatives then it will most likely be emphasized and always been looked by most people which do aside into those things that had been made positively by Trump.
Im aint a supporter but lets look on what he had done in good ways but i do agree somehow that when it comes to issues then its really there.If Biden is really winning this time then
American people do really look for something new so basing of into those numbers above then you can really see the margin between on both.

Just like on what had been said above on how this event do affect on gambling? I cant really see the reason.

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November 06, 2020, 04:29:53 PM
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The election results hasn't made any big impact on gambling. For users who have been waiting for Nov 3rd to know about the win or lose on their bets were waiting as no official statement or media has projected the result of the election. Gambling market is comprised of sports and Casinos. These elections were a small part of the gambling sites. This won't make any big changes on the market as well.

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November 06, 2020, 04:41:02 PM
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I don't know what impact it has exactly, but you do see those elections on all gambling sites that you can bet on. Nice that that is possible nowadays. I just want to know how the probabilities are calculated, after all, there are a lot of factors.

These days almost all the betting and gambling sites allow you to bet on such big events. Most popular ones being stake and freebitco. You have to bet your money on either one to the two candidate and you will either win or lose based upon who win the election. It should have been straight forward win or lose but since the election results are unclear, people will have to wait few more days before they know who is the next president of USA.
And that is without taking into account that there are going to be lawsuits which will delay the official outcome of the election for weeks and even a month, so it is going to be interesting how casinos manage this, after all they cannot really pay their customers that bet on Biden until the result is official and there are no more lawsuits in place as it is likely this will reach the US supreme court.

I just hope that all of those that took a bet on Biden are patient because I really think they will have to wait for a long time before they can get their profits.

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November 06, 2020, 05:05:46 PM
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Joe Biden may look favorite to win this election but still there is no official announcement of the results.

Joe Biden is only narrowly ahead of Donald Trump and Trump may not accept the results.

You just simply tell us the current status of the election but where's your stand about the impact of it on gambling? Next time also input your stand as you are the one introducing the topic to us.

I don't see any correlation between gambling and the Presidential election as a whole. This is not the first time also wherein there is a heated election. By impact, do you mean changes? Or maybe you are talking about the volume of bettors who participated in the US Presidential election?

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November 06, 2020, 05:07:40 PM
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I see some news about betting in the US presidential election. Many people wager in a very high amount, till $5M. It is wow and tell us that everything can be a matter of betting, moreover this kind of a big thing.
'but here I am, not taking part in the party  Grin Grin

let's see what will the decision take and what we will get the good news or bad news later. And let's see how the condition of the gamblers after the election and the final result.

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This has no impact on the gambling industry so to speak but rather those who actually bet on this event. I can't forget that one British dude who bet on Trump to win, and must be clenching his fists for the most parts of this day due to Biden continuously turning predominantly red states into blue. The outcome of this election is already clear, though would surely be contested by the Republicans to the death since they believe that the election is being rigged through the mail-in votes. Whatever the outcome is, the gambling industry will not be directly affected, but the bookmakers surely got something in the bag for making this event possible to be bet on.

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November 06, 2020, 05:24:13 PM
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This has no impact on the gambling industry so to speak but rather those who actually bet on this event.
I see some news about betting in the US presidential election. Many people wager in a very high amount, till $5M. It is wow and tell us that everything can be a matter of betting, moreover this kind of a big thing.
'but here I am, not taking part in the party  Grin Grin

let's see what will the decision take and what we will get the good news or bad news later. And let's see how the condition of the gamblers after the election and the final result.
I've seen that one and im wondering on whats been they've been doing at the moment yet the results are just too obvious on what would happen.

Can we see an another suicide news about this one? Hopefully that there would be no something like that to happen.This do really only affect to those who do bet but talking about

affecting the gambling industry? No it doesnt but this is just an another major event where gamblers can make some bet on.. We cant be sure if there only that someone bet 5million dollars.

There might be even more which do happen underground.

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November 06, 2020, 05:26:13 PM
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The election just becomes the main subject of gambling because no big event is happening in sports at the same time as them. We also know that Trump's reputation is a big deal in the US so gamblers want to settle their support at the gambling event.

We don't have any accurate stats wherein how much money circulated in the gambling industry betting on the US Presidential election but surely lots of gamblers involved here.

About the impact, maybe the current US Presidential election beat the total wagered bets on the previous elections. But after the election, no direct impact on the gambling industry as I don't even see how. This is just a normal event that passed by.

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November 06, 2020, 05:30:21 PM
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Where's the impact?  Grin

Anyway, it doesn't matter who will win when the discussion is about gambling.
It will still continue.
America didn't vote for the Pope so the gambling industry will stay.
Lots of money coming from that industry and whoever sits will not vanish that amount. Some of it will go directly to their pockets.
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Looking from outside the USA, the notices have said that this is one of the biggest elections of Americans and that it has motivated many voters to choose a side, something that hasn't happened in a long time.
I believe that gambling bets have also increased significantly, and those who bet on Biden early on should leave with a higher profit (if he wins, of course) since Trump started off as a "favorite" to re-election.

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November 06, 2020, 10:29:22 PM
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Joe Biden may look favorite to win this election but still there is no official announcement of the results.

Joe Biden is only narrowly ahead of Donald Trump and Trump may not accept the results.

yep, my 100 buks (not dollards, he he) tell me "Good bye"  Undecided

I doubt that if Trump will not accept results it would help me, because court with a very high probability will reject all his claims, it's just will take a little more time for a new president inauguration.

And i doubt that will impact in some special way on gambling what a nonsense

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November 06, 2020, 10:36:52 PM
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Looking from outside the USA, the notices have said that this is one of the biggest elections of Americans and that it has motivated many voters to choose a side, something that hasn't happened in a long time.
I believe that gambling bets have also increased significantly, and those who bet on Biden early on should leave with a higher profit (if he wins, of course) since Trump started off as a "favorite" to re-election.
Yes but when we will be able to get our profits? It seems Trump wants to contest the results and to seize the supreme court, so it can take several months!
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November 06, 2020, 11:11:27 PM
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affecting the gambling industry? No it doesnt but this is just an another major event where gamblers can make some bet on.. We cant be sure if there only that someone bet 5million dollars.

There might be even more which do happen underground.
There was a lot of bets for Trump and to be frank it was really close and even though Biden is leading i did not expect them to be this close, there were many hating on Trump from the beginning especially the Hollywood elites and other prominent voices from certain communities and yet if he is able to gain this much votes it is unbelievable.
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yep, my 100 buks (not dollards, he he) tell me "Good bye"  Undecided

I doubt that if Trump will not accept results it would help me, because court with a very high probability will reject all his claims, it's just will take a little more time for a new president inauguration.

In my own view, your bet might be canceled.

But more chances that you will lose it even Trump will not accept results as it won't stop Biden's inauguration so you will still lose as he will occupy the Presidency while investigation about anomalies and irregularities is rolling.
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November 07, 2020, 05:46:59 AM
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I don't know what impact it has exactly, but you do see those elections on all gambling sites that you can bet on. Nice that that is possible nowadays. I just want to know how the probabilities are calculated, after all, there are a lot of factors.

These days almost all the betting and gambling sites allow you to bet on such big events. Most popular ones being stake and freebitco. You have to bet your money on either one to the two candidate and you will either win or lose based upon who win the election. It should have been straight forward win or lose but since the election results are unclear, people will have to wait few more days before they know who is the next president of USA.
If I am one of the citizens of America, I will choose Joe Biden for a new and fresh start in the US government because Trump has a bad reputation already and I think the USA citizens need a new president for a new beginning and platform to look forward because it is indeed proven and tested that their past president (if ever) is not that totally reliable and responsible after a lot issues  about him.

This is your own wish of choosing Joe Biden. If you see people in America are divided almost equally in favor of both Biden and Trump and therefore who ever will be declared the next president will not have full support from the public.
I think this will have bad impact on all businesses including gambling.
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November 07, 2020, 09:13:44 AM
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affecting the gambling industry? No it doesnt but this is just an another major event where gamblers can make some bet on.. We cant be sure if there only that someone bet 5million dollars.

There might be even more which do happen underground.
There was a lot of bets for Trump and to be frank it was really close and even though Biden is leading i did not expect them to be this close, there were many hating on Trump from the beginning especially the Hollywood elites and other prominent voices from certain communities and yet if he is able to gain this much votes it is unbelievable.
But this is another concern. I am still looking on how will the result of the elections affect the gambling industry. That is right, this event became a huge betting topic but its effect to gambling is quite sketchy. But in some sense, there Could be an effect especially if the winning leader will make actions or orders regarding this activity or industry in general. Whether they will ban it or support it but that is something to be determined eventually. For example, if I'm not mistaken, Biden is eyeing for taxation increase so maybe he could also do the same thing in gambling platforms. But at this moment, this is just a possibility and let us hope that things will be good for people and economies no matter who will win this election.

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November 07, 2020, 09:51:12 PM
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affecting the gambling industry? No it doesnt but this is just an another major event where gamblers can make some bet on.. We cant be sure if there only that someone bet 5million dollars.

There might be even more which do happen underground.
There was a lot of bets for Trump and to be frank it was really close and even though Biden is leading i did not expect them to be this close, there were many hating on Trump from the beginning especially the Hollywood elites and other prominent voices from certain communities and yet if he is able to gain this much votes it is unbelievable.
But this is another concern. I am still looking on how will the result of the elections affect the gambling industry. That is right, this event became a huge betting topic but its effect to gambling is quite sketchy. But in some sense, there Could be an effect especially if the winning leader will make actions or orders regarding this activity or industry in general. Whether they will ban it or support it but that is something to be determined eventually. For example, if I'm not mistaken, Biden is eyeing for taxation increase so maybe he could also do the same thing in gambling platforms. But at this moment, this is just a possibility and let us hope that things will be good for people and economies no matter who will win this election.

right now, the visible effect on gambling is the betting aspect on politics. for sure, huge money was involved in this single event of american history. but other than that, we dont know the after effect of this election.
not seeing major influence in the gambling industry, other than the fact that most of physical casinos are still in the recovery period because of the pandemic. dont think that increase in taxation will take in effect as businesses are still struggling. not the right time to implement this new regulation.

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November 07, 2020, 09:59:11 PM
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There's a little impact in gambling but there's a big impact on the citizens of the USA as they now have a new president, and it is already official.

Biden defeats Trump to become 46th president

People have chosen their leader, congratulations to them as this seemed an honest election, but bad for bettors who lose money especially those who bet $5 million for Trump.  Tongue

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November 08, 2020, 03:16:57 AM
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How does two different things relate to each other? It won't have any impact at all.
Gambling is a habit and all about the probability of win and losses, meanwhile election is decided by people who vote on the candidates.
It's not like sports where you can vote who's going to win.
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November 08, 2020, 03:27:30 AM
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Joe Biden may look favorite to win this election but still there is no official announcement of the results.
Yeah and even the counting seems to be paused in releasing?because this scores recorded since almost 2 days ago yet nothing in available updates..
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Joe Biden is only narrowly ahead of Donald Trump and Trump may not accept the results.
Trump won't easily accepting the result since He is claiming that this is some things need to be corrected before the final result be respected.
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This is a Good margin about their difference in score,hope things will be done by monday.
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November 08, 2020, 03:52:46 AM
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Now it's official that Biden won this election but so far there wasn't any news from Trump about his acceptance of his defeat. Anyway, it says that Trump is the first one-term president of the United States for almost 30 years. This is a good start for the United States and forgets all the bad things Trump has done to their Country. That man from the UK who bet million dollars for Trump to win have already cried right now I think.



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November 08, 2020, 04:27:03 AM
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Now it's official that Biden won this election but so far there wasn't any news from Trump about his acceptance of his defeat. Anyway, it says that Trump is the first one-term president of the United States for almost 30 years. This is a good start for the United States and forgets all the bad things Trump has done to their Country. That man from the UK who bet million dollars for Trump to win have already cried right now I think.
I'm glad Joe Biden is now the president of the United States with this election. Many Americans want a change from what Trump did before him in being too arrogant in his tenure to even get him re-elected, what a shame.

Not finished with their million dollar bet, just crying because the hero defeat oh no I will not behave like this.

Trump is far from winning.

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November 08, 2020, 06:20:23 AM
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It has no impact. Like why would it even have one, is Biden someone who despises gambling or something? Even with Trump being the president for the past years, nothing really happened with Gambling so that says things for itself on Trumps side. One thing I do know that it has an impact though is.. Rip to the dude that bet for Trump with a huge amount of money. There was an article here back then about it, and it was a pretty big amount. He'd probably be like Trump right now, doubting the results are rigged and what not.

Anw, Congrats to the US winning against Trump. Turns out that a lot of voters back then registered to vote this year, possibly to push Trump out of the position. The fight was close initially tbh, and a lot of people actually voted for Trump.

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Anw, Congrats to the US winning against Trump. Turns out that a lot of voters back then registered to vote this year, possibly to push Trump out of the position. The fight was close initially tbh, and a lot of people actually voted for Trump.

So finally Biden wins.
I hope now everyone's bets will be settled on different gambling sites and people who bet on Biden will be the ones happy for these results.  Smiley

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I'm glad Joe Biden is now the president of the United States with this election. Many Americans want a change from what Trump did before him in being too arrogant in his tenure to even get him re-elected, what a shame.

Not finished with their million dollar bet, just crying because the hero defeat oh no I will not behave like this.

Trump is far from winning.

I read that he is the first incumbent to be defeated in re-election in over thirty years, he could have won easily because he is the incumbent but his approval rating is very low he never gets fast the 50% rating, his loss is a big blow to the Democrat, they should have fielded another candidate but they have no one but Donald Trump, Trump is a big lesson on how not to get re-elected.

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lots of people lose in these bets because they are rooting for trump, with big bets maybe they are just playing with money because they have lots, they don't know what to them with it, im thinking how much it the fee takin by different site with that big amount of money on the line, for sure its also thousands or millions of dollar,

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November 08, 2020, 07:47:18 AM
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There was a lot of bets for Trump and to be frank it was really close and even though Biden is leading i did not expect them to be this close, there were many hating on Trump from the beginning especially the Hollywood elites and other prominent voices from certain communities and yet if he is able to gain this much votes it is unbelievable.

In any election it's the silent majority who always deliver the win to candidates, yes Trump looks good and very confident to win the election but the silent majority will always have their voices heard in the ballot, even in the survey Biden is winning the race for the presidency I have this feeling that Trump will be a sour loser because he is a defeated incumbent president and this is his first major loss
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November 08, 2020, 09:04:26 AM
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lots of people lose in these bets because they are rooting for trump, with big bets maybe they are just playing with money because they have lots, they don't know what to them with it, im thinking how much it the fee takin by different site with that big amount of money on the line, for sure its also thousands or millions of dollar,

Do someone has the data showing how much was put in this gambling on this election and how much people have won in total and lost in total. I Know it is impossible to find exact figures but still i would like to know how much approx. money was spent on the gambling for this election ?
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The election just becomes the main subject of gambling because no big event is happening in sports at the same time as them. We also know that Trump's reputation is a big deal in the US so gamblers want to settle their support at the gambling event.

We don't have any accurate stats wherein how much money circulated in the gambling industry betting on the US Presidential election but surely lots of gamblers involved here.

About the impact, maybe the current US Presidential election beat the total wagered bets on the previous elections. But after the election, no direct impact on the gambling industry as I don't even see how. This is just a normal event that passed by.
Right.  Presidential election is a rare event, especially the US presidential election. Every people on earth watch and following this event.

Because there are only two presidential candidates, it really makes it easier for gamblers to analyze potential wins and Does not require mathematical skills to participate in this gambling event.


For the reasons above, I believe that the money circulation in this US election is much more than a weekly football event.

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November 08, 2020, 10:00:12 AM
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lots of people lose in these bets because they are rooting for trump, with big bets maybe they are just playing with money because they have lots, they don't know what to them with it, im thinking how much it the fee takin by different site with that big amount of money on the line, for sure its also thousands or millions of dollar,

Do someone has the data showing how much was put in this gambling on this election and how much people have won in total and lost in total. I Know it is impossible to find exact figures but still i would like to know how much approx. money was spent on the gambling for this election ?

No one can give the exact figures of how much amount was invested in gambling for the trump or biden win. Mostly gambling sites does not disclose this data and even if they disclose there are so many offline betting happening in every country which is impossible to track. Just came across a post where A gambler living in England makes a $5M bet on Trump. We can't even imagine how much people had bet on this biggest event.
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November 08, 2020, 11:53:53 AM
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The election just becomes the main subject of gambling because no big event is happening in sports at the same time as them. We also know that Trump's reputation is a big deal in the US so gamblers want to settle their support at the gambling event.

We don't have any accurate stats wherein how much money circulated in the gambling industry betting on the US Presidential election but surely lots of gamblers involved here.

About the impact, maybe the current US Presidential election beat the total wagered bets on the previous elections. But after the election, no direct impact on the gambling industry as I don't even see how. This is just a normal event that passed by.
Right.  Presidential election is a rare event, especially the US presidential election. Every people on earth watch and following this event.

Because there are only two presidential candidates, it really makes it easier for gamblers to analyze potential wins and Does not require mathematical skills to participate in this gambling event.


For the reasons above, I believe that the money circulation in this US election is much more than a weekly football event.



Probably way higher if this article is accurate.

U.S. presidential election expected to involve more than $1 billion in wagers

Hence, the $5 million bet from a single bet is only half of 1% from the total wagered expected.

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I would say that this election was very significant for the gamblers. It once again proved that when it comes to predicting the outcome of the elections, gamblers are more accurate when compared to the opinion polls. Gambling sites have a high probability of win for Trump, and it was justified by the close results. On the other hand, opinion polls were predicting blowout for Biden and they have lost their credibility.
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I would say that this election was very significant for the gamblers. It once again proved that when it comes to predicting the outcome of the elections, gamblers are more accurate when compared to the opinion polls. Gambling sites have a high probability of win for Trump, and it was justified by the close results. On the other hand, opinion polls were predicting blowout for Biden and they have lost their credibility.
This is a very interesting take and I think you could be on something, after all you just have to follow the money, people can say whatever they want which is why you got such huge numbers for Biden but once money was on the table and people needed to make a decision Trump got a lot more support and we saw this on the election day.

Also I find interesting the reaction of the markets, they went up during the whole process before Biden was declared a winner as if they did not care the controversy that was coming, so it seems they are comfortable which whichever ended up becoming the president of the US.

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November 11, 2020, 05:31:11 PM
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I don’t see an impact in the gambling industry in the US election. The only affected at the moment are those who bet who might win between Trump and Biden, as Trump is eager to do investigations and not ready to concede and step down. On the other hand world leaders already recognised the victory of Biden over Trump, goodluck to the United States with their new leader.
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November 11, 2020, 05:45:34 PM
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Joe Biden may look favorite to win this election but still there is no official announcement of the results.

Joe Biden is only narrowly ahead of Donald Trump and Trump may not accept the results.





The subject and the very post doesn't seem to coincide with one another. The only impact of US presidential Election with relations to gambling is the bets on who will win the election. But there is no impact on gambling in general.

I'm expecting that there is propaganda by Biden/harris that greatly affect the gambling industry.

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I would say that this election was very significant for the gamblers. It once again proved that when it comes to predicting the outcome of the elections, gamblers are more accurate when compared to the opinion polls. Gambling sites have a high probability of win for Trump, and it was justified by the close results. On the other hand, opinion polls were predicting blowout for Biden and they have lost their credibility.
This is a very interesting take and I think you could be on something, after all you just have to follow the money, people can say whatever they want which is why you got such huge numbers for Biden but once money was on the table and people needed to make a decision Trump got a lot more support and we saw this on the election day.

Also I find interesting the reaction of the markets, they went up during the whole process before Biden was declared a winner as if they did not care the controversy that was coming, so it seems they are comfortable which whichever ended up becoming the president of the US.
As if they would able to counter it if they dont like Biden to be the president? Of course there would be oppositions but theres nothing they can do yet the
results where finalized.There are lots of issues now that those werent precise results but i doubt that it wont really give out any further recounting or somewhat.

For the talks about impact on gambling then i dont see about the relevance of it yet events would really have its favorites and less ones.Lucky for those who took
risk for Biden to win.

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November 12, 2020, 04:32:06 AM
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As if they would able to counter it if they dont like Biden to be the president? Of course there would be oppositions but theres nothing they can do yet the
results where finalized.There are lots of issues now that those werent precise results but i doubt that it wont really give out any further recounting or somewhat.

For the talks about impact on gambling then i dont see about the relevance of it yet events would really have its favorites and less ones.Lucky for those who took
risk for Biden to win.

I guess you may need to wait for many weeks before the results are finalized. The Trump campaign has filed lawsuits in a number of states and they have come up with substantial evidence on vote rigging and other malpractices. Until these lawsuits are settled, I don't think that the gambling sites will process the winnings for the gamblers. So it is going to be a long wait, for those who won the bet.
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November 12, 2020, 05:21:38 PM
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As if they would able to counter it if they dont like Biden to be the president? Of course there would be oppositions but theres nothing they can do yet the
results where finalized.There are lots of issues now that those werent precise results but i doubt that it wont really give out any further recounting or somewhat.

For the talks about impact on gambling then i dont see about the relevance of it yet events would really have its favorites and less ones.Lucky for those who took
risk for Biden to win.

I guess you may need to wait for many weeks before the results are finalized. The Trump campaign has filed lawsuits in a number of states and they have come up with substantial evidence on vote rigging and other malpractices. Until these lawsuits are settled, I don't think that the gambling sites will process the winnings for the gamblers. So it is going to be a long wait, for those who won the bet.
People who have bets on trump are loving all this drama and supporting his stupid acts in hope of winning their bets somehow and some are even trying to get the bet voided citing the reason that the votes might be casted again.

It was suspicious when during counting was going on, Trump said about voter fraud despite saying that he won the elections because it was confusing at one side he says we already won and on the same time he says there is a voter fraud and we will go to court.

I believe trump knew he was going to lose and was well prepared to counter attack and do everything to prove election fraud actually happened and his supporters are just as dumb as him.
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November 12, 2020, 06:00:56 PM
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As if they would able to counter it if they dont like Biden to be the president? Of course there would be oppositions but theres nothing they can do yet the
results where finalized.There are lots of issues now that those werent precise results but i doubt that it wont really give out any further recounting or somewhat.

For the talks about impact on gambling then i dont see about the relevance of it yet events would really have its favorites and less ones.Lucky for those who took
risk for Biden to win.

I guess you may need to wait for many weeks before the results are finalized. The Trump campaign has filed lawsuits in a number of states and they have come up with substantial evidence on vote rigging and other malpractices. Until these lawsuits are settled, I don't think that the gambling sites will process the winnings for the gamblers. So it is going to be a long wait, for those who won the bet.

I doubt that something will change. At least my bet was already taken away by book. So this doesn't matter will Trump win in court or not, books will not give lost money to people (this would be to hard to do)

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You could also check out what Biden's plans are regarding the legalization of online gambling, as now in many places / states in the states it is illegal to gamble online anywhere. That would be something if Biden wants to change that and I wonder if he gets a lot of support or a lot of counterparts.

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November 12, 2020, 10:51:37 PM
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You could also check out what Biden's plans are regarding the legalization of online gambling, as now in many places / states in the states it is illegal to gamble online anywhere. That would be something if Biden wants to change that and I wonder if he gets a lot of support or a lot of counterparts.

Legalizing gambling is not a hard decision to make, the word "legal" gives them the control of the casinos, so we will likely to see more of casinos to be legalized, however, what I want to see is how Biden would react on casinos adding bitcoin as their payment options and crypto casinos operating in his country, it would be big if Biden has positive reaction to that.
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November 13, 2020, 07:44:53 AM
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I don’t see an impact in the gambling industry in the US election. The only affected at the moment are those who bet who might win between Trump and Biden, as Trump is eager to do investigations and not ready to concede and step down. On the other hand world leaders already recognised the victory of Biden over Trump, goodluck to the United States with their new leader.
He has forced manual recount of votes in some states as I heard some news regarding that in states like Georgia the counting of the votes will be done manually. I do not understand why Trump cannot accept his defeat gracefully and at least save the image that is being created right now in other countries as comical. Everyone is laughing at US and their system right now.

People who had bets on this election will finally get all their bets settled by January 20 as I was reading some article that on 20th Jan the new president takes the chair from the previous one so not much of an issue for bettors apart from the painful wait.

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November 13, 2020, 09:22:55 AM
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I don’t see an impact in the gambling industry in the US election. The only affected at the moment are those who bet who might win between Trump and Biden, as Trump is eager to do investigations and not ready to concede and step down. On the other hand world leaders already recognised the victory of Biden over Trump, goodluck to the United States with their new leader.
He has forced manual recount of votes in some states as I heard some news regarding that in states like Georgia the counting of the votes will be done manually. I do not understand why Trump cannot accept his defeat gracefully and at least save the image that is being created right now in other countries as comical. Everyone is laughing at US and their system right now.

People who had bets on this election will finally get all their bets settled by January 20 as I was reading some article that on 20th Jan the new president takes the chair from the previous one so not much of an issue for bettors apart from the painful wait.

Some other sites are paying out already, what would be the scenario if Trump would be declared as the winner and there was a fraud happening?
Trump can't just give way to Biden, he is in the position and he has every reason to ask for a recount and if the court would approve that, then it will happen. But January 20, that's next year more than 2 months for now, that's a long wait for the winners.  Cry

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November 13, 2020, 10:13:40 AM
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You could also check out what Biden's plans are regarding the legalization of online gambling, as now in many places / states in the states it is illegal to gamble online anywhere. That would be something if Biden wants to change that and I wonder if he gets a lot of support or a lot of counterparts.

Legalizing gambling is not a hard decision to make, the word "legal" gives them the control of the casinos, so we will likely to see more of casinos to be legalized, however, what I want to see is how Biden would react on casinos adding bitcoin as their payment options and crypto casinos operating in his country, it would be big if Biden has positive reaction to that.

I don't think if Biden will be thinking about legalizing gambling or bring reforms to the gambling industry. This is not the preference for sure at the present moment. Forming a government and managing / taking over other administrative tasks are more important for the president of the USA, then to think about the gambling industry.
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November 13, 2020, 12:03:06 PM
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You could also check out what Biden's plans are regarding the legalization of online gambling, as now in many places / states in the states it is illegal to gamble online anywhere. That would be something if Biden wants to change that and I wonder if he gets a lot of support or a lot of counterparts.

Legalizing gambling is not a hard decision to make, the word "legal" gives them the control of the casinos, so we will likely to see more of casinos to be legalized, however, what I want to see is how Biden would react on casinos adding bitcoin as their payment options and crypto casinos operating in his country, it would be big if Biden has positive reaction to that.

I don't think if Biden will be thinking about legalizing gambling or bring reforms to the gambling industry. This is not the preference for sure at the present moment. Forming a government and managing / taking over other administrative tasks are more important for the president of the USA, then to think about the gambling industry.

Gambling is not a highlight for a candidate to prioritize, but we will know more about that if Biden will officially be declared as a winner, right now, Trump are still in protest so even if we Biden is likely the winner, but we can't be too overconfident while waiting for the official announcement. 

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When there are sooooo many problems in USA because of Trump, I doubt that having casinos everywhere would be the first thing Biden would worry about. For the first 2 years of his presidency Biden will probably try to just fix what Trump has broken, it would take at least 6 months for Biden to just stop the bleeding let alone fix the wound, so I do not expect him to do anything new at all and would probably just focus on putting the nation back on the right track.

Believe me I know that Biden is not the perfect candidate to do it, I would prefer someone else as well but Trump was SO bad that even Biden looks like a great president when compared to Trump, hell I would let that octopus that decides on world cup games pick legislation and rule the nation over Trump so it isn't really a high bar to pass for Biden.

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November 13, 2020, 08:50:53 PM
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Since Biden won this election, we know that there are too many eyes of people observing and waiting the Biden's implementation and action of what first he is going to do. I guess crypto and gambling are not his priority on this, after all, there could be an impact on the bitcoin price in the market but for sure later on, as we will notice that we have a massive price increase after the election.

Gambling sites are continuously looking for people to deposit, that's why we always ready first the TOS.

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November 13, 2020, 10:23:19 PM
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Even though Joe Biden has now been confirmed to win the US president election 2020, I believe it will not have an effect on the world of gambling.
Because for Joe Biden casinos are not the main priority that must be changed, so it's possible that nothing will change regarding gambling-related
policies. So for gamblers who are in America can still play gambling as usual, because indeed US president election 2020 did not have any effect
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November 13, 2020, 10:39:44 PM
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Since Biden won this election, we know that there are too many eyes of people observing and waiting the Biden's implementation and action of what first he is going to do. I guess crypto and gambling are not his priority on this, after all, there could be an impact on the bitcoin price in the market but for sure later on, as we will notice that we have a massive price increase after the election.

Gambling sites are continuously looking for people to deposit, that's why we always ready first the TOS.

I'm not even thinking about crypto casinos to be widespread when Biden sits.

USA is dealing with a lot more serious problem now, I believe they will start resolving that first, their relationship to countries and their economic ties, then slowly, we might see him seeing how valuable and helpful crypto in the world, well, that's what I'm hoping as I don't really know his take on crypto casinos.

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November 13, 2020, 10:41:54 PM
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The short answer is: There is no any impact on gambling from USA election.

Topic can be closed for honest. This is the same as discuss how tornado in Alabama will impact the future of Britney Spears career or something like that  Grin

The only moment which can really impact is the scenario when book will pay to the winners and court decide that the winner is not Biden but Trump. Yeah, then it will be fun enough to watch. But the impact will still minimal in term "gambling"

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November 13, 2020, 11:39:36 PM
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The short answer is: There is no any impact on gambling from USA election.

Well I disagree. The GOP and Trump are against regulations, even obviously good ones, for example Trump signed orders allowing companies to dump toxic waste in rivers, like in a third world country.

The Dems are much more in favor of regulations. So if the online gambling industry is in the crosshairs of the administration for things like lax KYC, tax evasion, money laundering, then I'd expect a Biden administration to clamp down on these.
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November 14, 2020, 02:53:02 AM
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The short answer is: There is no any impact on gambling from USA election.

Well I disagree. The GOP and Trump are against regulations, even obviously good ones, for example Trump signed orders allowing companies to dump toxic waste in rivers, like in a third world country.

The Dems are much more in favor of regulations. So if the online gambling industry is in the crosshairs of the administration for things like lax KYC, tax evasion, money laundering, then I'd expect a Biden administration to clamp down on these.

I agree with Johnny there is no impact because majority of the gambling sites are not accepting US citizens to play in their platform, they cannot clampdown on something that they have no jurisdiction or do not accept any of their citizen, the US elections has been trying to connect the price in the market and now the gambling as if the US has impact to the world on what's happening in their internal affairs.

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November 14, 2020, 03:56:15 AM
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The short answer is: There is no any impact on gambling from USA election.

Well I disagree. The GOP and Trump are against regulations, even obviously good ones, for example Trump signed orders allowing companies to dump toxic waste in rivers, like in a third world country.

The Dems are much more in favor of regulations. So if the online gambling industry is in the crosshairs of the administration for things like lax KYC, tax evasion, money laundering, then I'd expect a Biden administration to clamp down on these.

I agree with Johnny there is no impact because majority of the gambling sites are not accepting US citizens to play in their platform, they cannot clampdown on something that they have no jurisdiction or do not accept any of their citizen, the US elections has been trying to connect the price in the market and now the gambling as if the US has impact to the world on what's happening in their internal affairs.
unless the US government will going to change the way they wanted to happen in their community. Leaders had different thoughts about gambling and cryptocurrency. Beside, no on had ask the new elected leader on this matter since this is not the priority. However, if time comes that all will be settle and in regards of this matter will brought to the new administration and they different perception then we can somehow see q different gambling and cryptocurrency depending on thew new administration.
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November 14, 2020, 03:57:50 AM
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Well I disagree. The GOP and Trump are against regulations, even obviously good ones, for example Trump signed orders allowing companies to dump toxic waste in rivers, like in a third world country.

The Dems are much more in favor of regulations. So if the online gambling industry is in the crosshairs of the administration for things like lax KYC, tax evasion, money laundering, then I'd expect a Biden administration to clamp down on these.

If a company dumps toxic waste in rivers, then the promoters will be jailed, with or without any regulations. Republicans want to remove unwanted regulations, which result in businesses losing a lot of time and effort without any positive impact. Look at the Bitcoin regulations in the US. Democrat run New York is having the toughest regulations, while Republican run states are having the most relaxed ones.
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November 14, 2020, 04:17:08 AM
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Joe Biden the candidate of Democratic party, later declared the winner of November 3 US presidential election that just ended in the country. Many gambler who predicted that Trump will defeat Biden in the election loss their bet because of the final result release by the college electoral, that give Joe Biden victory . US citizens gave Biden massive vote just because of the promise he made during his campaign to make gambling environment more convenient to all Gambler in the country.

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November 14, 2020, 04:23:28 AM
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US election has come and gone and a winner had already emerged, I don't think the outcome of this election will have any  positive or negative impact on gambling industries except of there is a total ban or some regulations in US gambling Industries which is very unlikely,  the government of the day do generate income from  taxes imposed on gambling industries and these industries had never been a security threat to US government.

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November 14, 2020, 04:54:46 AM
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I don't see the logic of the election 2020 on the US presidential position in the impact of gambling.
Because for me as an individual player in any of the gambling platform whoever wins it won't affect me at all,
my way or strategy will remain on my style.
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November 14, 2020, 05:23:27 AM
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I don't see the logic of the election 2020 on the US presidential position in the impact of gambling.
Because for me as an individual player in any of the gambling platform whoever wins it won't affect me at all,
my way or strategy will remain on my style.
I don't have an idea either because we're not from that country. But there's one thing for sure that I have read about him and that is the taxes.

There will be an increase in taxes and from the comments that I am seeing for certain news about the election. Particular people who like and voted for him are liking that happen as long as it is no longer Trump is their POTUS.

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November 14, 2020, 11:38:44 AM
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Joe Biden the candidate of Democratic party, later declared the winner of November 3 US presidential election that just ended in the country. Many gambler who predicted that Trump will defeat Biden in the election loss their bet because of the final result release by the college electoral, that give Joe Biden victory . US citizens gave Biden massive vote just because of the promise he made during his campaign to make gambling environment more convenient to all Gambler in the country.

Is this true ? Did biden really speak about the gambling industry during his campaign for the presidential elections ?

I am sure Biden did not win only by the votes of the gamblers  Cheesy

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November 14, 2020, 03:02:37 PM
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The impact is the bets that was made and nothing else I believe. There was hundreds of millions of dollars wagered on the elections itself and that obviously had a big impact in the gambling world, on top of that Biden looks to be winning and already claimed president elect by the unofficial results given by election officials counting results so far, yet Trump still tries to do take over the election by claiming fraud that nobody has found so far, yet he could postpone it as much as he wants until it is officially declared, he could even continue after it is officially declared but nobody would care at that point when Biden takes power for good. This caused another impact, some sportsbooks paid up Biden bets, but some are still keeping the bet going without paying anyone, which did created a divide between gamblers.
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November 15, 2020, 03:52:10 AM
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I don't see the logic of the election 2020 on the US presidential position in the impact of gambling.
Because for me as an individual player in any of the gambling platform whoever wins it won't affect me at all,
my way or strategy will remain on my style.


I don't see either, what's with the logic of impact on Biden's winning the election, will we have a new regulation in the gambling industry, is he a threat to the industry, in fact, many of the gambling sites here do not accept players from the US, we all know that the US is a superpower but it's not within their jurisdiction to disrupt the industry, whoever wins the election, the industry will still continue to be what it is.


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November 15, 2020, 04:58:07 AM
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I don't see the logic of the election 2020 on the US presidential position in the impact of gambling.
Because for me as an individual player in any of the gambling platform whoever wins it won't affect me at all,
my way or strategy will remain on my style.

I am wary about Biden, because even before he was elected as the president of the United States, he was saying that he would increase the taxes (on income, as well as that on capital gains). This is going to have a negative impact on all the sectors, including gambling. The 4-year term of Donald Trump saw sharp economic growth, in part due to his measure which lowered the tax levels. Biden may reverse everything.

Too early to speculate or be worried about the upcoming term of the new president. I think he has other priorities to tackle once officially declared as the President of US such as covid response and how to aid businesses to restore the economy. Increasing taxes may not be immediate as everyone is still battling the crisis. Not really helpful to his fellow countrymen. Anyway, I don't see vital impact on gambling, in my opinion, still the same as what the previous administrations have done.
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I don't see the logic of the election 2020 on the US presidential position in the impact of gambling.
Because for me as an individual player in any of the gambling platform whoever wins it won't affect me at all,
my way or strategy will remain on my style.

I am wary about Biden, because even before he was elected as the president of the United States, he was saying that he would increase the taxes (on income, as well as that on capital gains). This is going to have a negative impact on all the sectors, including gambling. The 4-year term of Donald Trump saw sharp economic growth, in part due to his measure which lowered the tax levels. Biden may reverse everything.

Yes, but it's not final yet, it's just an initial statement. As far as i know most of the online gambling sites exclude this country in fact almost all sites ban players from this country
Although the statement is true, I don't think it has much effect especially for online gambling.

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November 15, 2020, 05:15:36 AM
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I don't see the logic of the election 2020 on the US presidential position in the impact of gambling.
Because for me as an individual player in any of the gambling platform whoever wins it won't affect me at all,
my way or strategy will remain on my style.

I am wary about Biden, because even before he was elected as the president of the United States, he was saying that he would increase the taxes (on income, as well as that on capital gains). This is going to have a negative impact on all the sectors, including gambling. The 4-year term of Donald Trump saw sharp economic growth, in part due to his measure which lowered the tax levels. Biden may reverse everything.

One factor that this industry will be affected, but for sure it will be tackled as their economy are still affected by this pandemic implementing such

rules may not be appropriate, he needs to build more job and forget about adding taxes. Gambling industry will move forward whoever take this

position as gamblers won't mind anything, they are more on playing instead of worrying about it.
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November 15, 2020, 06:15:51 AM
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If you were pertaining about the bets to whoever wins the US presidential election, then it's legal I guess since it's trending all over the world. But according to this article US Presidential election bets a lot of major gambling companies decided to hold the payouts since Donald Trumph are still not happy with the election result trying to squeeze everything up if he was really cheated on by Biden's .

But if you're asking on point about what's Biden would say about US gambling industries, I think it's still too early to answet that since he didn't say anything about that matter yet. For sure, there are going to be a lot of changes in rules and regulations in US gambling industries.
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There's goes Trump legacy he cannot accept defeat, well for an arrogant man who is the first incumbent president not to get elected for 30 years, he should be angry on this achievement  Cheesy but all he and his party says are all nonsense because they cannot present a valid or strong proof that there is rigging of poll, he is actually the one rigging the election.

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November 15, 2020, 08:40:35 AM
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Trump legacy he cannot accept defeat

Yes, exactly. We all knew before the election started that he would never admit losing. For Trump, the election only had two possible outcomes: a) he won, b) he won but was cheated by fraud from the other side. There was never an outcome he'd accept where he genuinely lost.

One impact on gambling is companies refusing to pay out on a Biden win because Trump is challenging the result (although he has no evidence of fraud).
If we're talking about the impact due to Biden's policies... we don't know yet, what politicians say they'll do during an election campaign and what they actually do in office are often different hings. Also if - as looks likely - the senate will end up being Rep controlled, then it's difficult to see him getting any remotely controversial policies through.






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November 15, 2020, 10:09:20 AM
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I don’t know if Bidden’s leadership will have a significant impact on gambling in the US.
But in fact, they have recorded the 2020 US presidential election as the biggest betting event in history in political betting.
For someone who bet on a Biden victory, the US presidential election isn’t over yet, because they cannot withdraw the money from the bet.
Although news of Biden’s victory has spread in several well-known media outlets, such as CNN, NBC News, and CBS. But to date,
Donald Trump has yet to concede defeat and sued, so there has been no declaration of election results because there was no concession speech
by the losing presidential candidate. This is upsetting for those who bet on a Biden victory because the losing presidential candidate didn’t admit it.

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November 15, 2020, 10:22:24 AM
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Trump is losing and he might not accept it.

I don't see how will this impact or influence gambling activities, casinos, or online casinos in the US. Maybe Biden has something to say about gambling that the OP knows and he did not state that on the OP?
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Well it IS trump. Even his supporters are calling bs on the results of the election, which pretty trump like. Nothing we can do about it tbh, Trumps acting pretty much like a sore loser right now after all.
Trump is losing and he might not accept it.

I don't see how will this impact or influence gambling activities, casinos, or online casinos in the US. Maybe Biden has something to say about gambling that the OP knows and he did not state that on the OP?
I don't think Biden has said anything about it tbh. I hold the same idea that there's really nothing that the US election can do with gambling. At most, the news we've received is someone betting a huge amount of money on Trump winning, which he's probably regretting right now btw, but other than that, there's no news about gambling. Hardly doubt gambling would get impacted much with the switch tbh, even if there is one that is.

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November 15, 2020, 12:43:23 PM
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Before becoming is the president is the speech and after becoming and realizing the various factors would be different because now directly he would be responsible if by increasing taxes the  revenue decreases and I am sceptical he would be doing so, because now after pandemic it has already effected all businesses.

Biden has proposed a huge increase in the welfare budget. So in order to fund this increase, he needs to find funds. Either he can raise the taxes, or he can borrow from various donor agencies. The second option doesn't look very attractive right now, because the federal debt is already at sky-high levels. Anymore increase in the federal debt level can cause a collapse of the economy.
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November 15, 2020, 12:53:27 PM
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Before becoming is the president is the speech and after becoming and realizing the various factors would be different because now directly he would be responsible if by increasing taxes the  revenue decreases and I am sceptical he would be doing so, because now after pandemic it has already effected all businesses.

Biden has proposed a huge increase in the welfare budget. So in order to fund this increase, he needs to find funds. Either he can raise the taxes, or he can borrow from various donor agencies. The second option doesn't look very attractive right now, because the federal debt is already at sky-high levels. Anymore increase in the federal debt level can cause a collapse of the economy.

Raising taxes is not gonna help, they need to attract investors so they can increase their tax revenue by not affecting the life of the small earners. When we say increase of taxes, this has a big effect to the employees as they are really the ones who are paying big money while they aren't making that big.

The quality of life will be affected if the economy is not doing well, and attracting new investors like gambling businesses is for sure a great thing to do.

Well, I just recommended it since I know how big the gambling world is and I'm a gambler who likes to see countries to be a casino friendly, besides it's a win-win situation for both.

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November 15, 2020, 01:05:59 PM
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Before becoming is the president is the speech and after becoming and realizing the various factors would be different because now directly he would be responsible if by increasing taxes the  revenue decreases and I am sceptical he would be doing so, because now after pandemic it has already effected all businesses.

Biden has proposed a huge increase in the welfare budget. So in order to fund this increase, he needs to find funds. Either he can raise the taxes, or he can borrow from various donor agencies. The second option doesn't look very attractive right now, because the federal debt is already at sky-high levels. Anymore increase in the federal debt level can cause a collapse of the economy.

We need to take note that an increase in the services will almost always mean an increase of taxes. That is a pattern because governments are not creating money. They are printing money but they do not create its value. The value of money is backed by the economy. The government is not the one which creates the economy. The economy means money to the people, jobs, shops, stores, manufacturing companies, factories, etc, and they are created by the business sector. The money of the government is coming from taxes from the people and the business owners.
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Without the COVID 19 pandemic, Trump would have easily won the elections. The economy was doing exceptionally well, and unemployment rate was at all time low. But the pandemic changed everything and the mainstream media pounced on the opportunity. For the last 5-6 months, the network news channels of US acted like the mouthpiece of Democrat party. Various biased opinion polls predicted a Biden blowout. And despite all this, Trump lose by a razor thin margin.
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There is no version where Trump "doesn't accept it" and he stays. USA is not some third world nation and there is no way that anyone would allow anything like this to happen if Trump requests it. Just for starters to help you understand, SCOTUS is filled and packed by Republicans, they put Barret literally few days before the election, they rushed it soooo quickly just so they could get her in, right now there is 3 Trump judges just in there and few from before Obama era, so it is HEAVILY republican, not even close.

You know what happened? When trump sent court case about election fraud, they rejected it instantly without even considering it, literally within few hours. Even republican packed SCOTUS doesn't care what Trump thinks when it comes to elections, while ruling the nation? sure, but not about elections.

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November 15, 2020, 02:43:02 PM
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Before becoming is the president is the speech and after becoming and realizing the various factors would be different because now directly he would be responsible if by increasing taxes the  revenue decreases and I am sceptical he would be doing so, because now after pandemic it has already effected all businesses.

Biden has proposed a huge increase in the welfare budget. So in order to fund this increase, he needs to find funds. Either he can raise the taxes, or he can borrow from various donor agencies. The second option doesn't look very attractive right now, because the federal debt is already at sky-high levels. Anymore increase in the federal debt level can cause a collapse of the economy.

Trump said numerous times that the dems are going to raise taxes. Biden is also going to lock the country down. I even heard Biden is after a 5 Trillion USD QE which is... crazy af.

He is going for the great reset.

Even the world's reserve currency cannot handle that much QE but we will see.

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Trump said numerous times that the dems are going to raise taxes. Biden is also going to lock the country down. I even heard Biden is after a 5 Trillion USD QE which is... crazy af.

He is going for the great reset.

Even the world's reserve currency cannot handle that much QE but we will see.

What Biden wants to do and what Biden can do might be very different things. It is likely he will face a Republican-controlled senate, so he's unlikely to get anything through without at least an element of cross-party appeal.






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Trump said numerous times that the dems are going to raise taxes. Biden is also going to lock the country down. I even heard Biden is after a 5 Trillion USD QE which is... crazy af.

He is going for the great reset.

Even the world's reserve currency cannot handle that much QE but we will see.

What Biden wants to do and what Biden can do might be very different things. It is likely he will face a Republican-controlled senate, so he's unlikely to get anything through without at least an element of cross-party appeal.

Biden on his campaign promised to close tax loopholes for the rich and make them pay what they need to. He might do that but I don't think he'll be increasing the taxes for most of the part. It's still can't be said for exact as there have been claims of corruption and differential behavior to the business as well. There's an increasing trend of giving tax cuts for their supporter while increasing it for the ones who didn't supported him.
For gambling, it's been known that gambling tycoons had graced for Biden, he won't be hurting them.

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Biden on his campaign promised to close tax loopholes for the rich and make them pay what they need to. He might do that but I don't think he'll be increasing the taxes for most of the part. It's still can't be said for exact as there have been claims of corruption and differential behavior to the business as well. There's an increasing trend of giving tax cuts for their supporter while increasing it for the ones who didn't supported him.
For gambling, it's been known that gambling tycoons had graced for Biden, he won't be hurting them.

The rich are already paying around 40% of their income as tax, while the middle-class is paying somewhere between 12% and 22%. If we take in to account the long term capital gains tax, then those at the highest income tax bracket are paying 20%, while the middle-class pay 0%. Biden wants to increase these rates, which can result in capital flight. Just remember what happened in France, when François Hollande imposed the 75% tax on the rich.
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I suggest that the title should be replaced because there is no connection to gambling unless, if you bet on who among these two candidates will win. Among the two the impact on gambling candidate is unclear unless they have laid down their platforms about it but until date, neither of the two have provided their outlook regarding gambling and casinos.

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November 16, 2020, 11:20:59 PM
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Some of you have answered me that gambling sites don't accept US citizens, and that Biden hiking taxes could affect gambling. If you're a US citizen and gambling online, you are thus using a fake identity, so I doubt you're paying taxes on your gains !

Besides, Biden wants to increase the taxes for people making more than 250,000$/year, is that you ?

Before becoming is the president is the speech and after becoming and realizing the various factors would be different because now directly he would be responsible if by increasing taxes the  revenue decreases and I am sceptical he would be doing so, because now after pandemic it has already effected all businesses.

Biden has proposed a huge increase in the welfare budget. So in order to fund this increase, he needs to find funds. Either he can raise the taxes, or he can borrow from various donor agencies. The second option doesn't look very attractive right now, because the federal debt is already at sky-high levels. Anymore increase in the federal debt level can cause a collapse of the economy.

Trump said numerous times that the dems are going to raise taxes. Biden is also going to lock the country down. I even heard Biden is after a 5 Trillion USD QE which is... crazy af.

He is going for the great reset.

Even the world's reserve currency cannot handle that much QE but we will see.

First of all, why would you believe anything Trump says ?

Trump was all for QE, even before the pandemic, he was rambling day and night that the Fed wasn't printing enough money, and of course under him the deficit skyrocketed, which shouldn't happen if the economy is doing well, the deficit should be 0 or even negative.
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Without the COVID 19 pandemic, Trump would have easily won the elections. The economy was doing exceptionally well, and unemployment rate was at all time low. But the pandemic changed everything and the mainstream media pounced on the opportunity. For the last 5-6 months, the network news channels of US acted like the mouthpiece of Democrat party. Various biased opinion polls predicted a Biden blowout. And despite all this, Trump lose by a razor thin margin.
Even i think Trump would have easily won the elections if not for the pandemic as he was a good president in my opinion and it is true that he did some exceptional things but the media was more focused on tarnishing his image and he did not do anything that could make that better either and as you said most of the network news channels were against him from the beginning mocking and undermining his achievements.
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November 17, 2020, 12:39:23 AM
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I suggest that the title should be replaced because there is no connection to gambling unless, if you bet on who among these two candidates will win.
of course there is Mate because the new President will have His own stand regarding gambling policies and also for cryptocurrencies so this means effect will be on soon.

and As we are talking about America for sure gambling site owners now are having concerns for what will be the future deals.

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Among the two the impact on gambling candidate is unclear unless they have laid down their platforms about it but until date, neither of the two have provided their outlook regarding gambling and casinos.
That is why OP is asking for t least we will have our own opinion and ideas for what will be tomorrow says.
So at least we will be ready in case big changes comes right?

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Sorry but seems like i am loss?what is the connection of post to the title?you did not even give a meaningful question.

But if you are asking of Our opinion if how and what will the Winner though it is an obvious in your post that pointing into the new administration of Biden.

I think we can see small future compared to what Trump's administration treat this community.









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Without the COVID 19 pandemic, Trump would have easily won the elections. The economy was doing exceptionally well, and unemployment rate was at all time low. But the pandemic changed everything and the mainstream media pounced on the opportunity. For the last 5-6 months, the network news channels of US acted like the mouthpiece of Democrat party. Various biased opinion polls predicted a Biden blowout. And despite all this, Trump lose by a razor thin margin.
Even i think Trump would have easily won the elections if not for the pandemic as he was a good president in my opinion and it is true that he did some exceptional things but the media was more focused on tarnishing his image and he did not do anything that could make that better either and as you said most of the network news channels were against him from the beginning mocking and undermining his achievements.

It was not just the mainstream media. Social media was also extremely biased in this election and the Democrats used their leverage with various social media platforms very cleverly. Both Facebook and Twitter censored or removed posts from Donald Trump and the other Republicans, while refusing to allow publication of anything which would harm the prospects of Joe Biden. The Hunter Biden scandal was not covered by any of the mainstream media channels and social media blocked anyone who would post anything related to this news. And BTW, the legal head of Twitter (Vijaya Gadde) is an extreme-left loonie.

Now coming back to the topic, I hope those who bet in favor of Joe Biden have received their rewards. Trump is yet to concede, but now it looks clear that Biden will take charge on January 2021. So I would assume that the gambling sites would start distributing the winning amounts this month itself.
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Both Facebook and Twitter censored or removed posts from Donald Trump

Twitter tagged certain Trump posts with 'Some or all of the content shared in this Tweet is disputed and might be misleading about an election or other civic process'. This was actually extremely generous of them, given that everyone knew that the stuff he was posting was outright lies with zero basis in fact. If he claims fraud, or claims that he won, then he needs to supply evidence. This is quite straightforward. The reason he hasn't supplied evidence is that there isn't any, because it didn't happen. He should really be prosecuted for the inflammatory lies he posts, instead of receiving a little 'might be misleading' tag.






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I decided not to bet for this election. I thought that I would bet in favor of Biden, when he was the underdog (beginning of this year), but then his odds improved and Trump became the underdog. I was waiting for better odds and the odds got worse. So in the end, I thought it would be better not to place a bet. So what about others? Those who bet in favor of Biden have received their winning amount, or the gambling sites are still processing them?
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November 17, 2020, 11:14:45 AM
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I see some news about betting in the US presidential election. Many people wager in a very high amount, till $5M. It is wow and tell us that everything can be a matter of betting, moreover this kind of a big thing.
'but here I am, not taking part in the party  Grin Grin

let's see what will the decision take and what we will get the good news or bad news later. And let's see how the condition of the gamblers after the election and the final result.

See I will advise everyone not to gamble in US election because I think their is a lot of controversy concerning the election and if mistakenly gamble such,their will be a lot of lost, that's from my perspective, but i don't from others.

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I see some news about betting in the US presidential election. Many people wager in a very high amount, till $5M. It is wow and tell us that everything can be a matter of betting, moreover this kind of a big thing.
'but here I am, not taking part in the party  Grin Grin

let's see what will the decision take and what we will get the good news or bad news later. And let's see how the condition of the gamblers after the election and the final result.

See I will advise everyone not to gamble in US election because I think their is a lot of controversy concerning the election and if mistakenly gamble such,their will be a lot of lost, that's from my perspective, but i don't from others.

But for some people gambling bring a lot of fun and joy when they got the result into their favor. Even gambling is not a good habit but when we do this for fun than it would be nice but when we rely on it and do this for our living than it turn into crap. I also place my bet on Biden and luckily it helped me to get good amount.
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November 17, 2020, 02:10:27 PM
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When you spread lies, there is really no censorship, you do not have the "right to lie if I want to" in free world, you do have the right to lie, but you also have the opportunity to face the consequences of that. Free speech is not something you enter with others, it is something you enter with government, you can say "fuck trump" or "fuck biden" and that would be free speech but that doesn't mean others will not say anything to you, they could still decide to fire you or not work with you for example.

Hence trump saying "I won the election" type of stuff while ALL PROOF from election officials and counts show that Biden has won, could be silenced very easily by putting "official results say the opposite" and that is not censorship, that is just fact checking.

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Both Facebook and Twitter censored or removed posts from Donald Trump

Twitter tagged certain Trump posts with 'Some or all of the content shared in this Tweet is disputed and might be misleading about an election or other civic process'. This was actually extremely generous of them, given that everyone knew that the stuff he was posting was outright lies with zero basis in fact. If he claims fraud, or claims that he won, then he needs to supply evidence. This is quite straightforward. The reason he hasn't supplied evidence is that there isn't any, because it didn't happen. He should really be prosecuted for the inflammatory lies he posts, instead of receiving a little 'might be misleading' tag.

Its just right for them to block those tweets or post into known big social medias yet this will really give out false information due to those kind of baseless claims that he won that election.

I don't know on why he do still fight for the said position if its already been declared officially on who had win the presidential election.Whining and throwing baseless accusations would turn out
to be a joke and Trump should accept on whats the outcome.

Talking about impact on gambling? It doesn't really give out significant impact yet this is just an another major event where gamblers can do make some bet.

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Without the COVID 19 pandemic, Trump would have easily won the elections. The economy was doing exceptionally well

The economy was above water but exceptionally well is over stating it, there is massive amounts of QE even before the pandemic and its clear trouble would occur without that support.   You cant argue in favor of both, strong economy needs no support and sadly its still required every year.   Its problem not well discussed by either side.
   I agree Trump would have won 2020 if this had been a normal year, he has the most votes ever collected by a losing candidate apparently.    The ironic thing to his bad natured loss is his supporters were well behind him still; its just the other side rose up even more with again a recording breaking amount of votes and were unsurmountable.   Theres such a thing as a good fight and that was it tbh

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Raising taxes is not gonna help, they need to attract investors so they can increase their tax revenue by not affecting the life of the small earners.

Raising taxes can reduce the taxes received, its a not quite as conflicted statement as it sounds.   Put simply government requires efficiency, they cannot place too much tax on any particular source of revenue or risk the overall reduction of the tax take and losses to business moved abroad.   Its not something avoidable by either side but taxes explains why the Senate remains in Rep hands for now, populations fear excessive red tape and restriction from over taxation.    In betting terms this Georgia Senate race should be interesting to see contrasted vs the change in the white house.


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It was not just the mainstream media. Social media was also extremely biased in this election and the Democrats used their leverage with various social media platforms very cleverly. Both Facebook and Twitter censored or removed posts from Donald Trump and the other Republicans, while refusing to allow publication of anything which would harm the prospects of Joe Biden. The Hunter Biden scandal was not covered by any of the mainstream media channels and social media blocked anyone who would post anything related to this news. And BTW, the legal head of Twitter (Vijaya Gadde) is an extreme-left loonie.
I knew that there were censoring things and Trump was hated by celebrities as well as the media and does not give any merit for his performance and then hide the rest of the stories. I was not aware of the extend of the censorship but it is outrageous.

Now coming back to the topic, I hope those who bet in favor of Joe Biden have received their rewards. Trump is yet to concede, but now it looks clear that Biden will take charge on January 2021. So I would assume that the gambling sites would start distributing the winning amounts this month itself.
I placed a few bets on Trump and it is not cleared and placed last minute bets on Biden and those are cleared.
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November 17, 2020, 11:50:41 PM
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I decided not to bet for this election. I thought that I would bet in favor of Biden, when he was the underdog (beginning of this year), but then his odds improved and Trump became the underdog. I was waiting for better odds and the odds got worse. So in the end, I thought it would be better not to place a bet. So what about others? Those who bet in favor of Biden have received their winning amount, or the gambling sites are still processing them?
There were bookies that have already proclaimed that Biden is the winner and as the usual process, they already sent the payments and winnings for those who bet for Biden. Just in case you have missed this guy who bet for Trump which seems was the largest political bet in the history. Take time and have a read.
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5286581.0)

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There were bookies that have already proclaimed that Biden is the winner and as the usual process, they already sent the payments and winnings for those who bet for Biden. Just in case you have missed this guy who bet for Trump which seems was the largest political bet in the history. Take time and have a read.
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5286581.0)

Have to appreciate the gambling sites for clearing the payments on time. They could have given the excuse that the results are still being contested and they will disburse the amount only after the legal formalities are over. This would have been justified even with their current T&C. BTW, I guess the gambling sites are in good profit, as a lot of people bet in favor of Trump.

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November 18, 2020, 04:32:22 AM
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Trump said numerous times that the dems are going to raise taxes. Biden is also going to lock the country down. I even heard Biden is after a 5 Trillion USD QE which is... crazy af.

He is going for the great reset.

Even the world's reserve currency cannot handle that much QE but we will see.

What Biden wants to do and what Biden can do might be very different things. It is likely he will face a Republican-controlled senate, so he's unlikely to get anything through without at least an element of cross-party appeal.
But the question is Will Biden be the one to run the government?there are rumors about Him having an alsymer signs?and about His age and health?looks like Kamala Harris is soon to run the US  Grin

I decided not to bet for this election. I thought that I would bet in favor of Biden, when he was the underdog (beginning of this year), but then his odds improved and Trump became the underdog. I was waiting for better odds and the odds got worse. So in the end, I thought it would be better not to place a bet. So what about others? Those who bet in favor of Biden have received their winning amount, or the gambling sites are still processing them?
Actually what hinders me to bet for this election?is that man from other country that Bets $5 million for trump.I decided not to bet and its a good thing because i am aiming for the former president lol.
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November 18, 2020, 05:37:48 AM
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Actually what hinders me to bet for this election?is that man from other country that Bets $5 million for trump.I decided not to bet and its a good thing because i am aiming for the former president lol.

I also skipped placing a bet for this election, because the odds were not very attractive. Saved some money, because if I too would have gone with Trump. Since the opinion polls were giving less than 10% chance to Trump, I thought I would get similar betting odds. But the gambling sites had higher odds for Trump and I thought that the potential rewards were not large enough to take this risk.
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November 18, 2020, 06:19:33 AM
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I decided not to bet for this election. I thought that I would bet in favor of Biden, when he was the underdog (beginning of this year), but then his odds improved and Trump became the underdog. I was waiting for better odds and the odds got worse. So in the end, I thought it would be better not to place a bet. So what about others? Those who bet in favor of Biden have received their winning amount, or the gambling sites are still processing them?
There were bookies that have already proclaimed that Biden is the winner and as the usual process, they already sent the payments and winnings for those who bet for Biden. Just in case you have missed this guy who bet for Trump which seems was the largest political bet in the history. Take time and have a read.
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5286581.0)
I have read the topic what I'm interesting now is about His reaction and how he handles such a Loss,being the Most popular gambling these days if he will reveal His identity ,because this is unusual thing that will only happen once in a million chance.

About the effect in Gambling world of this recent election?Rules will be set once Biden took His oath and seat on that presidential chair in white house.

What we need to do now is Hope that Biden will be easy towards gambling and crypto because these 2 is our main concern here.









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I have read the topic what I'm interesting now is about His reaction and how he handles such a Loss,being the Most popular gambling these days if he will reveal His identity ,because this is unusual thing that will only happen once in a million chance.

Revealing his identity would be like the most foolish thing to do. He can attract unwanted attention from the criminals as well as from the tax authorities. If the tax authorities hear about this, then the first thing they will enquire is how this guy can afford to risk this huge amount. There is a good chance that the money was not earned through legal means. Even if it was earned through legal means, there can be additional verifications required by the authorities.
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Trump is losing and he might not accept it.

I don't see how will this impact or influence gambling activities, casinos, or online casinos in the US. Maybe Biden has something to say about gambling that the OP knows and he did not state that on the OP?
I don't think Biden has said anything about it tbh. I hold the same idea that there's really nothing that the US election can do with gambling. At most, the news we've received is someone betting a huge amount of money on Trump winning, which he's probably regretting right now btw, but other than that, there's no news about gambling. Hardly doubt gambling would get impacted much with the switch tbh, even if there is one that is.

I don't know if this is legitimate, but here is this article

It states that Joe Biden didn't talk much about sports betting, this article only states about sports betting but not gambling as a whole. Based on the articles, Biden
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I don't know what will happen that much but the article says that it indicates his support for getting involved in federal guidelines in sports betting.
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I agree with others that literally nothing will change. Trump was a person who literally owned a casino and yet he didn't do anything to change the casino world in USA, not many before him did anything drastic neither, and Biden won't do anything about it neither.

Gambling world in USA is already something settled and working, there is really no need to change anything right now and there is no reason to change anything neither, it is done and it is working as intended and that is fine as it is. Sure you could make more drastic changes if you set mind into it and you could create a lot more business' if you open it legally in some other state but usually this is something federal government leaves to states and states do not make these type of changes that easily.

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November 18, 2020, 06:40:08 PM
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According to everything I think that now it's clear that Budem has won. Even some judicial processes that Trump has announced can't give him the chance to change this. Although he will be president until January I don't see reason why bookies wouldn't pay the gamblers who bet on Biden.
I also think that he does win. Still, there are some uncounted votes but I don't think it will make a change in the result.

I have read the topic what I'm interesting now is about His reaction and how he handles such a Loss,being the Most popular gambling these days if he will reveal His identity ,because this is unusual thing that will only happen once in a million chance.
I feel sorry for the man but he's brave if he will share his story of how he handles things after the bet.

Have to appreciate the gambling sites for clearing the payments on time. They could have given the excuse that the results are still being contested and they will disburse the amount only after the legal formalities are over. This would have been justified even with their current T&C. BTW, I guess the gambling sites are in good profit, as a lot of people bet in favor of Trump.
Well for most of them, they can see a clear winner in this election. But if there are casinos that still have to wait for the clear results, it's understandable for those pending bets.

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It will do him a big service if he choose not to reveal his identity. The guy who placed 5M dollars for Trump. If he is a responsible gambler then I bet he has like 500 million dollars to his name and it is ok for him to lose just 5 million especially if he is a businessman and can earn the said money and recuperate his losses within months. He did a very risky move and people are talking about him like he is a celebrity or something. I would suggest that we move on from that. Unless of course he waits until the fight is over, we all know Trump has not conceded yet (what I think as of this writing).

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November 19, 2020, 03:26:11 AM
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I decided not to bet for this election. I thought that I would bet in favor of Biden, when he was the underdog (beginning of this year), but then his odds improved and Trump became the underdog. I was waiting for better odds and the odds got worse. So in the end, I thought it would be better not to place a bet. So what about others? Those who bet in favor of Biden have received their winning amount, or the gambling sites are still processing them?
There were bookies that have already proclaimed that Biden is the winner and as the usual process, they already sent the payments and winnings for those who bet for Biden. Just in case you have missed this guy who bet for Trump which seems was the largest political bet in the history. Take time and have a read.
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5286581.0)
I have read the topic what I'm interesting now is about His reaction and how he handles such a Loss,being the Most popular gambling these days if he will reveal His identity ,because this is unusual thing that will only happen once in a million chance.

About the effect in Gambling world of this recent election?Rules will be set once Biden took His oath and seat on that presidential chair in white house.

What we need to do now is Hope that Biden will be easy towards gambling and crypto because these 2 is our main concern here.
Still do not make a research of his identity yet. It would be a painful to me if I lost such huge money. But I guess he could at least afford his loss. Such a huge bet for president Trump


There are more issues to concern about rather than just gambling or crypto. It is hard to implement a decetralized system to a centralized system. Dont expect too much on whoever the next president

Moreover, Trump still sues for recount votes. Many uncount votes have been revealed. Lets wait and see

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November 19, 2020, 04:18:18 AM
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According to everything I think that now it's clear that Budem has won. Even some judicial processes that Trump has announced can't give him the chance to change this. Although he will be president until January I don't see reason why bookies wouldn't pay the gamblers who bet on Biden.

As long as the current president doesn't concede the elections, they have a justification here. The terms and conditions for many of these online gambling sites are very vague. I won't be surprised if a small fraction of them refuse to process the winnings. The vast majority would not go that route, because for them maintaining their brand reputation is very important.
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November 19, 2020, 05:36:41 AM
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According to everything I think that now it's clear that Budem has won. Even some judicial processes that Trump has announced can't give him the chance to change this. Although he will be president until January I don't see reason why bookies wouldn't pay the gamblers who bet on Biden.

As long as the current president doesn't concede the elections, they have a justification here. The terms and conditions for many of these online gambling sites are very vague. I won't be surprised if a small fraction of them refuse to process the winnings. The vast majority would not go that route, because for them maintaining their brand reputation is very important.
Even Trump don't want to concede yet seems like the Whole government is turning into Biden by now so it won't take time for Him to finally realized that He's time is over and time to move out.
It will do him a big service if he choose not to reveal his identity. The guy who placed 5M dollars for Trump. If he is a responsible gambler then I bet he has like 500 million dollars to his name and it is ok for him to lose just 5 million especially if he is a businessman and can earn the said money and recuperate his losses within months. He did a very risky move and people are talking about him like he is a celebrity or something. I would suggest that we move on from that. Unless of course he waits until the fight is over, we all know Trump has not conceded yet (what I think as of this writing).
well revelation may come if He is interested but for now since the painful day is just right there better for Him to internalize about what happen to His decision.

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November 19, 2020, 05:52:06 AM
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According to everything I think that now it's clear that Budem has won. Even some judicial processes that Trump has announced can't give him the chance to change this. Although he will be president until January I don't see reason why bookies wouldn't pay the gamblers who bet on Biden.

As long as the current president doesn't concede the elections, they have a justification here. The terms and conditions for many of these online gambling sites are very vague. I won't be surprised if a small fraction of them refuse to process the winnings. The vast majority would not go that route, because for them maintaining their brand reputation is very important.

That is wrong justification, because its impossible now for the results to make a big turn around and announce Trump as the winner, Trump is just stubborn, he's been stubborn all his life and it's a pity that he carried his stubbornness in the presidency, whether he likes it or not he'll have to vacate the seat and give way to Biden this January.

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November 19, 2020, 06:44:36 AM
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According to everything I think that now it's clear that Budem has won. Even some judicial processes that Trump has announced can't give him the chance to change this. Although he will be president until January I don't see reason why bookies wouldn't pay the gamblers who bet on Biden.

As long as the current president doesn't concede the elections, they have a justification here. The terms and conditions for many of these online gambling sites are very vague. I won't be surprised if a small fraction of them refuse to process the winnings. The vast majority would not go that route, because for them maintaining their brand reputation is very important.

That is wrong justification, because its impossible now for the results to make a big turn around and announce Trump as the winner, Trump is just stubborn, he's been stubborn all his life and it's a pity that he carried his stubbornness in the presidency, whether he likes it or not he'll have to vacate the seat and give way to Biden this January.

That's likely to happen because until now there's has been no solid evidence that cheating has occurred.
USA will have a new president next year, so Trump should think now what his next action that he is going to be out of power soon.

I'm pretty sure there's a lot of changes that will come and that includes many filing a case against Trump if the new administration would find enough evidence of Trump's violation while he was still in power.

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According to everything I think that now it's clear that Budem has won. Even some judicial processes that Trump has announced can't give him the chance to change this. Although he will be president until January I don't see reason why bookies wouldn't pay the gamblers who bet on Biden.

As long as the current president doesn't concede the elections, they have a justification here. The terms and conditions for many of these online gambling sites are very vague. I won't be surprised if a small fraction of them refuse to process the winnings. The vast majority would not go that route, because for them maintaining their brand reputation is very important.

That is wrong justification, because its impossible now for the results to make a big turn around and announce Trump as the winner, Trump is just stubborn, he's been stubborn all his life and it's a pity that he carried his stubbornness in the presidency, whether he likes it or not he'll have to vacate the seat and give way to Biden this January.

@bryant.coleman while each sportsbook has their own reasons for either settling the bets, or withholding them, Stake has decided to take a unique approach whereby they have paid the gamblers who placed their money on Biden.

Furthermore for Trump supporters they have kept their bets as unsettled, and they have agreed to pay if *Trump wins.

In my personal opinion the route taken by Stake is the right one, and by doing this not only have they maintained their credibility but they have kept both the sides happy, and now I’m sincerely hoping that other sportsbook providers too will follow their lead.

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November 19, 2020, 05:00:01 PM
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I definitely agree that what stake is doing is what people want from betting places to do as well. For people, who wagered on Biden they would be getting their money and there is no problems with that, Biden wagerers would be happy about it as well.

For people who wagered on Trump would be happy that they are not losers for now, sure they will be losers when it is official but they are postponing their sadness anyway, hell even when Biden becomes president and starts ruling over the nation they will keep saying they didn't lose, it was stolen so you can't make them happy so you can only postpone it until it is official and at that point stake could at least say the results are now official. So at the end of the day every sportsbook should have done what stake has done.
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November 19, 2020, 05:52:14 PM
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I definitely agree that what stake is doing is what people want from betting places to do as well. For people, who wagered on Biden they would be getting their money and there is no problems with that, Biden wagerers would be happy about it as well.

For people who wagered on Trump would be happy that they are not losers for now, sure they will be losers when it is official but they are postponing their sadness anyway, hell even when Biden becomes president and starts ruling over the nation they will keep saying they didn't lose, it was stolen so you can't make them happy so you can only postpone it until it is official and at that point stake could at least say the results are now official. So at the end of the day every sportsbook should have done what stake has done.
What do other bookies do still wait? Its clear that Biden had won the election and its just right that they do make those bets final and close it and give the
winnings to those who bet with Biden.Its just too unethical for them to held off yet its clear on whats the result.Those Trump issues are just delay but
if you do try to look carefully then theres nothing they can do on making the decision to be reverted.
For those who are still anticipating for Trump then its better to move on first rather than waiting up for something stressful.

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Does anyone know or have it confirmed when the date of it being confirmed as a solid result, my take was the actual electoral college count which is December 14th
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  At that point its out of the hands of any of the parties or candidates or even voters, its purely the result returned by constitution unopposed by any court or type of legal challenge.   Its almost impossible to over turn at this point anyway as many have noted correctly but still we arent legal scholars so we have to wait.

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Many gambler are not yet happy for the result they are getting from the electoral college, which is making Joe Biden to lead Donald Trump because many gambler use huge amount to bet for the election that take place November third, that make Joe Biden to pulled 306 vote to defeat Trump who pulled 230 to lose the election in the country. The game is not yet over with Donald Trump who claimed that the election was full with fraud, that he is the winner of the game not Biden.
Despite the delay of the original score of the game I believe Joe Biden will still win the game, to become the US president 2020, that will create more conducive to all gambler in the country and also make all the casino center attractive.

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In recent years, most presidents of the United States have been elected for the second time.  but Trump seems to be losing this election.  Although a clearer explanation is not given, many people now think that this is the case.  we will see the winner together at the end of the day.

Mainly trump loses because people of the America is not favorable for him already. Trump had businesses but did not work out and became bankrupt. Meanwhile, when America was in his hands the economy of the country drop down seemingly odd because for the pas presidents the economy was good. The idea of gambling i think that was said in here is if the president at the present will continuously allow the operation and support it all the way. Joe Biden, is a respectable president and could easily adapt to changes. But I think the focus of the current president of America is to make the lives of their people better and I think gambling is far way from that.
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Many gambler are not yet happy for the result they are getting from the electoral college, which is making Joe Biden to lead Donald Trump because many gambler use huge amount to bet for the election that take place November third, that make Joe Biden to pulled 306 vote to defeat Trump who pulled 230 to lose the election in the country. The game is not yet over with Donald Trump who claimed that the election was full with fraud, that he is the winner of the game not Biden.
Despite the delay of the original score of the game I believe Joe Biden will still win the game, to become the US president 2020, that will create more conducive to all gambler in the country and also make all the casino center attractive.
The game is over to be frank and there is nothing left to be done apart from the sore loser to accept his fate and acknowledge how bad he was during his reign because I don't live in the US but for sure if he did enough for the people there was no way he would have lost.

In fact most of the sportsbooks have settled Biden as winner an Trump as loser which tells you how empty and bogus those election fraud claims are by the Republican party and Trump. Anyone who actually thinks that Trump is going to somehow come out as the next President is doing no favor to themselves and is living in their own fantasy.

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November 20, 2020, 05:45:41 PM
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Mainly trump loses because people of the America is not favorable for him already. Trump had businesses but did not work out and became bankrupt. Meanwhile, when America was in his hands the economy of the country drop down seemingly odd because for the pas presidents the economy was good. The idea of gambling i think that was said in here is if the president at the present will continuously allow the operation and support it all the way. Joe Biden, is a respectable president and could easily adapt to changes. But I think the focus of the current president of America is to make the lives of their people better and I think gambling is far way from that.

Before Covid-19, The American economy was in its best shape in the last 50 years probably. The unemployment rates were at record low. The US basically had "zero unemployment". These all happened under the Trump administration.

And covid19 wasn't his fault so I don't think it is fair to blame him for that.

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I can't see how a different president could have an impact on the gambling habit of people or on the gambling industry as a whole.
I really can't imagine that biden will completely ban gambling in the united states and that's the only way i could see him have an impact on gambling.
Regarding the election itself: It seems like 99% safe now that biden won it, all those lawsuits that the trump team is trying now won't change that.
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Tax law and various allowances can vary quite alot with the change of party, I dont know Biden will be any more positive for crypto then Trump was but there was a possibility Trump would have advanced some forced regulation and disadvantages for crypto.   That was my impression last January that legislation was imminent but was interrupted by the virus measures.
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I don't think it is fair to blame him for that.
The buck stops here, a recession is tne of the major ways for a term to end early.  People at the top are given every privilege, its not fair but nor are many other things in the economic system.   The big deal was Trump got so many votes but still was defeated, it was the largest turnout recorded for both parties.

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The funny thing is, they applied for a recount in Georgia and lost that too, and they applied to courts again and they lost that too Cheesy. It is obvious that the "aim" of Trump team is not to actually try to win, they know they lost, there is no logical and sensible lawyer in the entire world to take this case and try to win it, they know they will not win at all.

What they however trying to do is obvious, they are going to try to do this as long as they can, put the doubt seed in everyone's mind, and when they eventually leave office they are going to act like victims to win back in 2024. There is a huge chance Trump becomes a candidate in 2024 once again and I feel like republican party could potentially nominate him again so this will be base of his operations and he will call out foul play on his 2024 campaign.
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The funny thing is, they applied for a recount in Georgia and lost that too, and they applied to courts again and they lost that too Cheesy. It is obvious that the "aim" of Trump team is not to actually try to win, they know they lost, there is no logical and sensible lawyer in the entire world to take this case and try to win it, they know they will not win at all.

What they however trying to do is obvious, they are going to try to do this as long as they can, put the doubt seed in everyone's mind, and when they eventually leave office they are going to act like victims to win back in 2024. There is a huge chance Trump becomes a candidate in 2024 once again and I feel like republican party could potentially nominate him again so this will be base of his operations and he will call out foul play on his 2024 campaign.
Do you really think that he would have some chance on year 2024? It all varies or depends on Bidens performance with that 4 year term and if americans do see that it fits them
well then they wouldnt consider any candidate to be voted next which will purely stick out to Biden but who knows? No one can predict out on what would happen because
everything can be changed when it comes to own personal views and into the masses.It all matters on performance and changes that had been made.
For Trumps current rumbling about recount and other things then its just pure useless.

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November 20, 2020, 08:37:46 PM
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There is a huge chance Trump becomes a candidate in 2024 once again and I feel like republican party could potentially nominate him again so this will be base of his operations and he will call out foul play on his 2024 campaign.

If he will still alive or at least still have memory and brains to remember his opponent name  Smiley
But for serious, i doubt that Trump will try to elect in 2024, more likely republicans will find someone who will fit better. But yeah, they can try to use this situation with Trump to catch some minds.

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There is a huge chance Trump becomes a candidate in 2024 once again and I feel like republican party could potentially nominate him again so this will be base of his operations and he will call out foul play on his 2024 campaign.

If he will still alive or at least still have memory and brains to remember his opponent name  Smiley
But for serious, i doubt that Trump will try to elect in 2024, more likely republicans will find someone who will fit better. But yeah, they can try to use this situation with Trump to catch some minds.

Do you realize Biden is 3 years older than Trump?

If Biden can get elected at 77, then Trump can get elected at 78... and break Biden's record.

If Trump somehow returns empty handed this year and it looks so, maybe Pence would be a better candidate but I can't be sure.

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We wont be betting on Trump in 2024, I agree its Pence or they have a wealth of other candidates just waiting to take the part in a different direction.   Likely not Pence just like it wasnt Biden 4 years ago, someone else was waiting and had greater support at that time.
  Its not going to be a static situation, its not just Republicans but any parties has a number of factions who dont all perfectly agree with each other.   The point being, if Trump cant gain the Rep nomination then he isnt entering the race in 4 years.
  Near term the most interesting bet now would be the Georgia Senate race and can that tip the whole power structure back to senate control under the same party as the President, thats actually a big deal so I wonder how many bets will be available for that.

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The funny thing is, they applied for a recount in Georgia and lost that too, and they applied to courts again and they lost that too Cheesy. It is obvious that the "aim" of Trump team is not to actually try to win, they know they lost, there is no logical and sensible lawyer in the entire world to take this case and try to win it, they know they will not win at all.

What they however trying to do is obvious, they are going to try to do this as long as they can, put the doubt seed in everyone's mind, and when they eventually leave office they are going to act like victims to win back in 2024. There is a huge chance Trump becomes a candidate in 2024 once again and I feel like republican party could potentially nominate him again so this will be base of his operations and he will call out foul play on his 2024 campaign.
It is possible but I do not think the attempt will be successful in my opinion, because most Presidents that tried to do a re-election campaign is successful as far as I know, except for Trump. Maybe it will be effective but four years is a very long time for the people to wait for him and vote again, along the way, there might be a more influential one that can will takeover the spotlight that Trump has been trying to create for himself in the next four years. I have heard rumors back then of election bets but this is the first time that I have heard of it as I find it taboo to put gambling and politics together, we all know that it leaves a sour taste in our mouths, but hey, money is money.

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November 23, 2020, 02:02:25 AM
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The funny thing is, they applied for a recount in Georgia and lost that too, and they applied to courts again and they lost that too Cheesy. It is obvious that the "aim" of Trump team is not to actually try to win, they know they lost, there is no logical and sensible lawyer in the entire world to take this case and try to win it, they know they will not win at all.

What they however trying to do is obvious, they are going to try to do this as long as they can, put the doubt seed in everyone's mind, and when they eventually leave office they are going to act like victims to win back in 2024. There is a huge chance Trump becomes a candidate in 2024 once again and I feel like republican party could potentially nominate him again so this will be base of his operations and he will call out foul play on his 2024 campaign.
It is possible but I do not think the attempt will be successful in my opinion, because most Presidents that tried to do a re-election campaign is successful as far as I know, except for Trump. Maybe it will be effective but four years is a very long time for the people to wait for him and vote again, along the way, there might be a more influential one that can will takeover the spotlight that Trump has been trying to create for himself in the next four years. I have heard rumors back then of election bets but this is the first time that I have heard of it as I find it taboo to put gambling and politics together, we all know that it leaves a sour taste in our mouths, but hey, money is money.

If they create enough doubt about the results (or if there's enough doubt about the result) and than the senate could call it an undecided election and go for a contingent election deciding the POTUS through a vote in the house. I don't know if it's a real thing or just a rumor but even the republicans who had initially called Biden a winner have now back from their words and claiming Trump the winner. Whatever the result be, instability in US would have some effect on economy and crypto.

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Tax law and various allowances can vary quite alot with the change of party, I dont know Biden will be any more positive for crypto then Trump was but there was a possibility Trump would have advanced some forced regulation and disadvantages for crypto.   That was my impression last January that legislation was imminent but was interrupted by the virus measures.

Democrats went after poker in 2011, Democrats wanted to 'shut down' Bitcoin the same year, new VP is a prosecutor who's earned the nickname of 'Copmala'. Maybe I'm missing something but that sounds to me like the new presidency is going to be a continuation of the status quo, i.e. laws and regulations surrounding cryptocurrencies will probably continue getting stricter with time.

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There is a huge chance Trump becomes a candidate in 2024 once again and I feel like republican party could potentially nominate him again so this will be base of his operations and he will call out foul play on his 2024 campaign.

If he will still alive or at least still have memory and brains to remember his opponent name  Smiley
But for serious, i doubt that Trump will try to elect in 2024, more likely republicans will find someone who will fit better. But yeah, they can try to use this situation with Trump to catch some minds.
Lol Trump is far from alzheimer's like biden so i thing He will still remember those people that involves in Election Cheating as he claim  Grin

and you are correct it is far that after 4 years His supporters and believers will still hold for Him?for sure the 4 years will build another candidate that will gather more popularity and support.

But Lets give it a chance if things happen favoring this.
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November 23, 2020, 12:46:30 PM
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There is a huge chance Trump becomes a candidate in 2024 once again and I feel like republican party could potentially nominate him again so this will be base of his operations and he will call out foul play on his 2024 campaign.

If he will still alive or at least still have memory and brains to remember his opponent name  Smiley
But for serious, i doubt that Trump will try to elect in 2024, more likely republicans will find someone who will fit better. But yeah, they can try to use this situation with Trump to catch some minds.
Lol Trump is far from alzheimer's like biden so i thing He will still remember those people that involves in Election Cheating as he claim  Grin

and you are correct it is far that after 4 years His supporters and believers will still hold for Him?for sure the 4 years will build another candidate that will gather more popularity and support.

But Lets give it a chance if things happen favoring this.

The longer he holds to that false hope the more it will be hard for him to accept the painful defeat. He was too confident that he will win, even doing things that would not help him raise his chances in the election. Imagine, an elected candidate seeking for re election is an underdog in the betting, you already know what it means, even him.  Grin
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So the elections are finally over and we did see a lot of unrest since the people were getting heated up due to debatable arguments and their beliefs.

apparently people betted around 300 millions ! On these elections 57% went for Trump
https://www.forbes.com/sites/willyakowicz/2020/10/30/bettors-have-wagered-more-money-on-trump-vs-biden-than-nevada-collected-during-super-bowl-liv/?sh=347a4da25ae3

There had been news about a person who used 5 million dollars on Trump.!!!!!!!
The guy actually slashed the previous record of most used money on a single bet !! It's unfortunate that he lost.

But Trump after loosing just said that "he is going to prepare for the next elections "
Let's see what Biden does and if he is able to take the economy to better levels.

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regulations surrounding cryptocurrencies will probably continue getting stricter with time.

The taxation of the exchange of currency is a means of confiscation, just holding money is protected by law in many places but first BTC would have to be recognised as a legal currency.  So far as I know its most often taxed as an asset and the worst we can expect is being labelled a security which means they literally throw books of red tape at anyone handling until they no longer can move.    This is why I never lament the passing by of either candidate, both will result in the same thing which is massive inflation and unfortunately losses hard to avoid, inevitably the inflation pays for the debt by value lost.    My take on politics now is its a game of hot potato and republicans should maybe be glad later if the debt problem blows up on the democrat term and it appears as if their failure; this is a scenario that could easily unfold.
  There is surely no more bets being taken on this main event to the elections, strange thing is I do see live prices for Biden and Trump. Huh  I dont expect to win what I dont understand so Im not involved, I dont get why both rose.

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There is a huge chance Trump becomes a candidate in 2024 once again and I feel like republican party could potentially nominate him again so this will be base of his operations and he will call out foul play on his 2024 campaign.

If he will still alive or at least still have memory and brains to remember his opponent name  Smiley
But for serious, i doubt that Trump will try to elect in 2024, more likely republicans will find someone who will fit better. But yeah, they can try to use this situation with Trump to catch some minds.
Lol Trump is far from alzheimer's like biden so i thing He will still remember those people that involves in Election Cheating as he claim  Grin

and you are correct it is far that after 4 years His supporters and believers will still hold for Him?for sure the 4 years will build another candidate that will gather more popularity and support.

But Lets give it a chance if things happen favoring this.
I don't care who represents the republicans in 2024 because it remains to be seen how Biden will operate and how his policies are going to roll out because while he seems the better option we never know because when Trump won last elections he looked good too but he all know what kind of a disaster he turned out to be for them.

Not sure how many people lost or won money with his loss but there was a serious and massive opportunity for arbitrage because the odds were favoring trump then it went ballistic and swung in favor of Biden and then again this kept happening and a serious gambler could have made decent profits without actually risking anything.
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November 24, 2020, 12:50:20 PM
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I can't see how a different president could have an impact on the gambling habit of people or on the gambling industry as a whole.
I really can't imagine that biden will completely ban gambling in the united states and that's the only way i could see him have an impact on gambling.

the election have glitches and this affects the politics betting only not other areas of sportsbetting . we dont know the attitude of biden and if he will ban gambling in the usa that can also affect the gambling on this country not to the rest of the countries .

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Regarding the election itself: It seems like 99% safe now that biden won it, all those lawsuits that the trump team is trying now won't change that.
this gives a relief to those that voted and betted on biden because finaly it was proven that biden really won the election game and i felt sorry for trump because they did everything , they waste money and time but at the end biden still got it . he can better luck again next time
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November 24, 2020, 05:45:29 PM
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this gives a relief to those that voted and betted on biden because finaly it was proven that biden really won the election game and i felt sorry for trump because they did everything , they waste money and time but at the end biden still got it . he can better luck again next time

The final results (some of the states are yet to release them) prove that the margin was not extremely small, and this prevented Trump team from filing tons of lawsuits. Both the parties have a lot to cheer about. The Democrats won the presidential elections, which would enable them to pack the supreme court with liberal justices. GOP on the other hand, gave a very tough fight in the POTUS elections, while maintaining their majority at the senate. And surprisingly, they gained more than a dozen seats during the House elections. And finally, from what I have heard, the gambling sites got good profits as almost equal number of people made bets in favor of Trump and Biden respectively.
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November 24, 2020, 06:40:47 PM
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Trump is 74 years old right now, by the time next elections come he will be 78 years old and by the time his term ends he would be 82 years old.

So, I doubt that he would be going for another presidency at 2024, he would probably just run away to Russia or something. We all know that he did things that was impossible to indict a sitting president and put to jail, but when he is not the president, he is as regular of a citizen as it can be. Plus he angered a lot of people so he will have to pay for every single small mistake he did not only during his presidency but whatever before as well.

From many democrat states and judges to federal ones to house and if they can get senate democrate senate as well, he will be in BIG trouble. Dude was literally impeached if senate was democrat he would have been gone. Think what democrats can do to someone outside if they are willing to do this when he is the president.

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Trump is 74 years old right now, by the time next elections come he will be 78 years old and by the time his term ends he would be 82 years old.

So, I doubt that he would be going for another presidency at 2024, he would probably just run away to Russia or something. We all know that he did things that was impossible to indict a sitting president and put to jail, but when he is not the president, he is as regular of a citizen as it can be. Plus he angered a lot of people so he will have to pay for every single small mistake he did not only during his presidency but whatever before as well.

This would be the time on where people would able to do things when he's already out into his seat into those time when he's still on his position then lots had really
been affected nor doesnt really like on what he had done in the past or the time on his presidency.There would always be some opposition and with some
accumulated anger and if someone do able to see the opportunity then no one knows on what would happen.

About on running in next term then i wouldnt see that it would be still feasible for him to push it through basing off into his age alone then
we can tell that it wouldnt really be that ideal to continue.Aside into those side complications to others then that will really be something risky.

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November 24, 2020, 08:40:34 PM
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the election have glitches and this affects the politics betting only not other areas of sportsbetting .

Are those glitches are proven to be true? It's more of an accusation.

we dont know the attitude of biden and if he will ban gambling in the usa that can also affect the gambling on this country not to the rest of the countries .

That was too much to think. It's impossible that Biden will ban gambling in the USA.

Maybe you read this that's why you said that: https://www.marketwatch.com/story/what-a-joe-biden-presidency-could-mean-for-legalized-sports-betting-11605289652

It's not that simple to ban the whole gambling industry in the US and it will not happen. It just needs a hard regulation.
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So the elections are finally over and we did see a lot of unrest since the people were getting heated up due to debatable arguments and their beliefs.
It was never in doubt but because Trump made those baseless accusations against Biden about election fraud it caused a chaos and Trump bettors got a lifeline even though it was never going to help.

There had been news about a person who used 5 million dollars on Trump.!!!!!!!
Must be more upset than Trump for his loss lol and I don't know why people are betting so high on elections because there are better things to bet in life.

I don't think there is ever going to be any impact of anyone winning the elections on gambling apart from the obvious wins and loses people go through and it is funny this election was so popular among people and by the way this was the first and probably the last time I made a bet on elections.

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November 25, 2020, 01:38:43 PM
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Trump is 74 years old right now, by the time next elections come he will be 78 years old and by the time his term ends he would be 82 years old.

So, I doubt that he would be going for another presidency at 2024, he would probably just run away to Russia or something. We all know that he did things that was impossible to indict a sitting president and put to jail, but when he is not the president, he is as regular of a citizen as it can be. Plus he angered a lot of people so he will have to pay for every single small mistake he did not only during his presidency but whatever before as well.

From many democrat states and judges to federal ones to house and if they can get senate democrate senate as well, he will be in BIG trouble. Dude was literally impeached if senate was democrat he would have been gone. Think what democrats can do to someone outside if they are willing to do this when he is the president.

Let's not forget the fact that the Democrats failed to obtain the senate majority, despite spending billions of USD in campaign funds more than the GOP. And despite this huge financial advantage, their earlier 232-197 lead in the United States House of Representatives is now hammered down to just 222-210 (with three seats yet to be declared). Biden won't be able to take radical steps, simply because he doesn't have enough support in the Senate/House.
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November 25, 2020, 05:27:26 PM
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There are high chances this election was frauded, so I think the impact on gambling will be very negative. It's like playing at a rigged casino. After being cheated, who will want to do play there again?
With so many complainments and testimonies about fraud I would be very upset if I had bet on the election's result and even not having placed any bet I won't do this in future due to this shameful episode. Better to bet in another kinds of subjects.

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November 25, 2020, 07:35:38 PM
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It is weird to see this many Trump fans in bitcointalk as well but considering dude got 70+ million votes from just USA and probably have some fans overseas as well, I would say there are at least 100+ million Trump fans in the world and obviously having some here is not shocking.

First of all, there were not even a single case of election fraud found, Trump team literally fought to find one, and if they couldn't find a single evidence of it, why are you still listening to Trump and not the proof? And secondly Democrats didn't spend "billions more" than republicans, it was literally 280 million dollar difference, mainly used to beat Lindsay Graham and there were plenty of places in USA where republicans got more money. And House is still at democrats with Georgia run-off could go to democrats which would mean senate majority. That should be scaaaaary for you republicans because if democrats get all three, you are as gone as it can be forever.

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The hate for Trump is so strong that some people can't see how absurd this election was. It's not only Trump who is saying the election was frauded, but also many american citizens who worked as volunteers during the process and couldn't observe the votes counting too close. Others received ballots addressed to dead people or in the incorrect address.
All Trump is doing is to make worth the right and the indignation of the american people who are suspicious about the results. And I think anyone has the right to question a rigged system like that without fear of mockery or being labeled as *fan*. But nothing different can be expected from vulgar democrats.

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November 26, 2020, 11:56:56 AM
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There are high chances this election was frauded, so I think the impact on gambling will be very negative. It's like playing at a rigged casino. After being cheated, who will want to do play there again?
With so many complainments and testimonies about fraud I would be very upset if I had bet on the election's result and even not having placed any bet I won't do this in future due to this shameful episode. Better to bet in another kinds of subjects.

Obviously there were isolated reports of fraud, similar to what happened during the previous elections. But there is no evidence to prove that these acts would have influenced the overall result. The closest states were Georgia and Arizona, and even in these states, Biden won by more than 10,000 votes. So there is no point in saying that he won as a result of electoral fraud.
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November 26, 2020, 12:24:40 PM
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The hate for Trump is so strong that some people can't see how absurd this election was. It's not only Trump who is saying the election was frauded, but also many american citizens who worked as volunteers during the process and couldn't observe the votes counting too close. Others received ballots addressed to dead people or in the incorrect address.
All Trump is doing is to make worth the right and the indignation of the american people who are suspicious about the results. And I think anyone has the right to question a rigged system like that without fear of mockery or being labeled as *fan*. But nothing different can be expected from vulgar democrats.
Nice statement and really transparent to read about the Election Situation in America,really thanks for this.

But This is about gambling thread,and the effect of the US election in gambling world and not about the Issue they are facing.

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The hate for Trump is so strong that some people can't see how absurd this election was. It's not only Trump who is saying the election was frauded, but also many american citizens who worked as volunteers during the process and couldn't observe the votes counting too close. Others received ballots addressed to dead people or in the incorrect address.
All Trump is doing is to make worth the right and the indignation of the american people who are suspicious about the results. And I think anyone has the right to question a rigged system like that without fear of mockery or being labeled as *fan*. But nothing different can be expected from vulgar democrats.
All true and I very much agree with you. I observed the gradual increase from the first count before Trump started probing the credibility of the result and frankly, it seems that even made the rigging worst as the votes on Trump were creepingly coming while that of Biden gallloped all the way up. It's sad for a looked up to country like America to have this sort of voting and counting of votes still amongst them but, I'm sure Trump won't hesitate to prob the process until he gets to it's root.

Again, the Biden and Trump election is one of the most controversial I'v observed in a while now. Not just because it was an election of the world power but the both candidates seemed rather very compatible and very competitive. At least, it brought forth the highest stake in bet history on politics by a gambler from England who placed a $5M bet on Trump to win. I wonder how bookmarkers are deciding this with the seat of the presidency still at stake despite the conclusion of the election.

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November 26, 2020, 01:04:55 PM
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There are high chances this election was frauded, so I think the impact on gambling will be very negative. It's like playing at a rigged casino. After being cheated, who will want to do play there again?
With so many complainments and testimonies about fraud I would be very upset if I had bet on the election's result and even not having placed any bet I won't do this in future due to this shameful episode. Better to bet in another kinds of subjects.

Obviously there were isolated reports of fraud, similar to what happened during the previous elections. But there is no evidence to prove that these acts would have influenced the overall result. The closest states were Georgia and Arizona, and even in these states, Biden won by more than 10,000 votes. So there is no point in saying that he won as a result of electoral fraud.
I won't extend it too much here, because I'm already being accused of going off topic. But in no way the reports were isolated, they were really massive and in much higher proportions than at any previous election I can remember. Just because mainstream media is hiding the reports don't mean they are isolated.
And 10,000 votes is nothing when compared to the total. It just increases the suspicion over the result, especially because Trump had large advantage in several states until the dawn, when the counting stopped. And once the mail ballots arrived and the counting resumed the results changed completely, what would be very unlikely in a legit scenario, as the tendency wasn't that since the beginning.

What happens is that people don't like Trump, so they can ignore the inconsistencies and pretend everything was fine if the consequence is to remove him from power.

Discrepancies like this don't give me any confidence to gamble in politics results. Even sports results that many people also complain look much more legit in my opinion. That is why I think the impact of this election will be negative for gambling industry.

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The results of elections in many countries raise a lot of questions. In my opinion, the use of outside observers, video surveillance cannot ensure control over elections and the day has come when people should think that in order to ensure greater transparency in elections, it is simply necessary to use blockchain technology. This is the only way for every voter to check if their vote was stolen.

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November 26, 2020, 02:40:10 PM
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Trump is 74 years old right now, by the time next elections come he will be 78 years old and by the time his term ends he would be 82 years old.

So, I doubt that he would be going for another presidency at 2024, he would probably just run away to Russia or something. We all know that he did things that was impossible to indict a sitting president and put to jail, but when he is not the president, he is as regular of a citizen as it can be. Plus he angered a lot of people so he will have to pay for every single small mistake he did not only during his presidency but whatever before as well.

From many democrat states and judges to federal ones to house and if they can get senate democrate senate as well, he will be in BIG trouble. Dude was literally impeached if senate was democrat he would have been gone. Think what democrats can do to someone outside if they are willing to do this when he is the president.

I don't think he will be in the position to run again for the presidency because he already lost lots of money from promoting himself that fake virus infection didn't do anything about the election and I think it is better for him to stop his dream right now and go for other goals because honestly, to be president of a major country is not fit for him. He is good with his past job where he did well his entire life.

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November 26, 2020, 04:29:48 PM
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Trump is 74 years old right now, by the time next elections come he will be 78 years old and by the time his term ends he would be 82 years old.

So, I doubt that he would be going for another presidency at 2024, he would probably just run away to Russia or something. We all know that he did things that was impossible to indict a sitting president and put to jail, but when he is not the president, he is as regular of a citizen as it can be. Plus he angered a lot of people so he will have to pay for every single small mistake he did not only during his presidency but whatever before as well.

From many democrat states and judges to federal ones to house and if they can get senate democrate senate as well, he will be in BIG trouble. Dude was literally impeached if senate was democrat he would have been gone. Think what democrats can do to someone outside if they are willing to do this when he is the president.

I don't think he will be in the position to run again for the presidency because he already lost lots of money from promoting himself that fake virus infection didn't do anything about the election and I think it is better for him to stop his dream right now and go for other goals because honestly, to be president of a major country is not fit for him. He is good with his past job where he did well his entire life.
I think officially announcement with Joe Bidden win the US election and become United State president on January 2021, maybe with gambling site waiting when Joe Bidden become president to give your betting reward and looks not normally why reward distribution delay and have waiting for long time. Joe Bidden have been president and Democratic party have claimed they are the winner and beat Donald Trump for the first time only get one period become United State president, better you ask on gambling site have officially announcement with Joe Bidden win why still delay for giving your betting reward.

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November 26, 2020, 04:38:25 PM
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The impact on gambling is clear that it will increase gambling itself, but one thing that might be different is that one of the candidates nominated does not accept defeat. Yes, the voting result has been obtained and when the result has been obtained then the bet is settled, no matter what suspicions there are and are raised there because I think in the end the result will remain the same, even though the result may change but when the bet is settled it still will not change regardless of the outcome of the bet.

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November 26, 2020, 04:46:35 PM
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The results of elections in many countries raise a lot of questions. In my opinion, the use of outside observers, video surveillance cannot ensure control over elections and the day has come when people should think that in order to ensure greater transparency in elections, it is simply necessary to use blockchain technology. This is the only way for every voter to check if their vote was stolen.

Any attempt to do that would be painted as "voter suppression" and liberal Democrat mouthpieces such as CNN, CNBC and MSNBC would go ballistic. For Republicans, what they need to do is quite simple. Voter fraud is unlikely to give more than 0.1% to 0.5% advantage for the Democrats. So if they could make up for that, from a higher turnout among their supporters, then they can easily win the elections in swing states.
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November 26, 2020, 07:06:07 PM
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Okay lets tackle it one by one and proved that trump fans are wrong. First of all, the few hundred voting frauds that were found were literally just that, people doing voting fraud and voting fraud is not the same as election fraud, from the simple yet very effective example of how it took this long to just COUNT votes, can you imagine how impossible to have a whole election fraud.

One is an individual voting illegally, the other means a whole group or state knowing fraud the elections, one is common and happens in EVERY election, the other is impossible and what Trump is claiming that happened.

Secondly regular citizens can be denied to watch, if there are enough number of people who are watching, the extra numbers can be denied, when one place has 280 (140 democrat and 140 republican) that is usually max and 281th person and all the rest can be denied. I can continue to prove that trump fans are not aware of the situation with these proofs, but eventually they won't care.
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November 26, 2020, 11:20:44 PM
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The impact on gambling is clear that it will increase gambling itself, but one thing that might be different is that one of the candidates nominated does not accept defeat. Yes, the voting result has been obtained and when the result has been obtained then the bet is settled, no matter what suspicions there are and are raised there because I think in the end the result will remain the same, even though the result may change but when the bet is settled it still will not change regardless of the outcome of the bet.
I agreed that the US presidential election will impact gambling positively since online gambling site experience the highest gambling per bet in history but I don't see any reason why we have to be bothered by a candidate not accepting defeat when he hasn't won any of the sue he make about the election.

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This is a big election where it also became a big field of betting. It is not only in online betting but also offline betting. They were betting to know the winner of the election. This is interesting because it is an election of a big country in the world. Where the decision of the election will really influence the decision to the world. Additionally, we can see many people are betting with a very big amount of money. And the result? it has been clearly accepted that Biden is the winner. I really think how the gambler that is willing Trump to be president again. They lost the betting.

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November 27, 2020, 10:34:54 PM
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I agreed that the US presidential election will impact gambling positively since online gambling site experience the highest gambling per bet in history but I don't see any reason why we have to be bothered by a candidate not accepting defeat when he hasn't won any of the sue he make about the election.

The only way as it can influence on gambling industry is if Trump will win trough court and many books will be in hard situation, because some of them already accepted results with Biden and already awarded people which bet on Biden. So yeah.

But in any another ways the impact will be minimal

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November 27, 2020, 11:07:32 PM
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apparently people betted around 300 millions ! On these elections 57% went for Trump
https://www.forbes.com/sites/willyakowicz/2020/10/30/bettors-have-wagered-more-money-on-trump-vs-biden-than-nevada-collected-during-super-bowl-liv/?sh=347a4da25ae3

But Trump after loosing just said that "he is going to prepare for the next elections "
Let's see what Biden does and if he is able to take the economy to better levels.

*$300M on Betfair alone by late October
So the real figure is probably on the order of billions of dollars.

The media may very well not give Trump as much attention as back in 2016, without that many will probably forget him unless Biden turns out to be less likeable than Trump. Not to mention his advancing age which could be another hindrance.

It is weird to see this many Trump fans in bitcointalk as well but considering dude got 70+ million votes from just USA and probably have some fans overseas as well, I would say there are at least 100+ million Trump fans in the world and obviously having some here is not shocking.

Much more than that, actually:

https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2020/01/08/trump-ratings-remain-low-around-globe-while-views-of-u-s-stay-mostly-favorable/

Many of them are ignorant of his actual policies, or are his fans due to cultural factors (e.g. the populist right in Europe), or due to a single issue (e.g. some Asians due to Trump's foreign policy and his attitude towards China).

The only way as it can influence on gambling industry is if Trump will win trough court and many books will be in hard situation, because some of them already accepted results with Biden and already awarded people which bet on Biden.

At least legacy gambling places accept fiat and know the identity of the bettor, it would be interesting if any of them would want to (try to) go after their customers and clawback the money they already paid out. Probably not, but at least BTC and altcoin gamblers don't even have to entertain such thoughts.

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November 27, 2020, 11:18:30 PM
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I don't really know how 2020 us election make an impact in gambling. Unless, the new president Joe Biden will totally ban all crypto gambling sites in USA. But it won't happen since Americans love gambling. The only that influence the new administration in gambling industry is to impose high tax or ban it.

The huge amount of bet in election does not give a huge impact, only people who bet in Trump lose the money fast. I remembered when a thread here told that a person bet 5M dollars in trump side. I think he is crying out loud now.

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I could speculate on what Biden might do but I dont think theres any point right now as he does not have a clear mandate to pass unlimited legislation.     So his party didnt win all the houses outright which for anyone who doesn't like red tape and nonsense its a good thing and they'll have a hard time achieving consensus to be wrecking various industries with big government.    On the other hand you could say the dust is not settled till January not because of Trump but the senate has a run off and the numbers are close enough that it matters to the balance of power.
  70 million votes is alot but I dont think any candidate beaten is able to return because both parties then move onto new candidates.   The clearest reason I can state for that is younger candidates exist and what do you bring against a President who is well into senior years, you bring what he doesn't have etc. so they come back with a younger candidate to oppose Biden in 2024.   We wont see this bet repeat, its already done in all but name.

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November 28, 2020, 03:33:44 AM
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I don't really know how 2020 us election make an impact in gambling. Unless, the new president Joe Biden will totally ban all crypto gambling sites in USA. But it won't happen since Americans love gambling. The only that influence the new administration in gambling industry is to impose high tax or ban it.

The huge amount of bet in election does not give a huge impact, only people who bet in Trump lose the money fast. I remembered when a thread here told that a person bet 5M dollars in trump side. I think he is crying out loud now.

We will not know if the election of 2020 can have an impact on gambling, but for people who are always betting on a special moment, they will search for it, and they will try to place their bet. Perhaps, that will not be too popular in another country, but people from that country can use the local casino, or even bet between them. I hope that the USA is not banned crypto and will allow people to use crypto without a problem helping crypto grow. If many people bet on that election and choose Trump, they are losing their money, but we don't know how much precisely the money people spent on that betting.
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November 28, 2020, 05:01:54 PM
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I agreed that the US presidential election will impact gambling positively since online gambling site experience the highest gambling per bet in history but I don't see any reason why we have to be bothered by a candidate not accepting defeat when he hasn't won any of the sue he make about the election.

The only way as it can influence on gambling industry is if Trump will win trough court and many books will be in hard situation, because some of them already accepted results with Biden and already awarded people which bet on Biden. So yeah.

But in any another ways the impact will be minimal
You are absolutely right but it shouldn't influence the gambling industry because both sides of the players are already aware that the bookers have already paid the winning to the supporters of Biden's and if we look at vote result by election Biden is the winner.

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November 28, 2020, 08:21:12 PM
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People have already started talking about what they want from Biden to do as executive order. Considering Republicans do not have the 2/3 majority of the senate it is obvious that all the things Biden can do as executive order will continue to be a law, there are few ways it could be overruled I suppose, never really seen any time recently but maybe supreme court can? I do not know but it is obvious that when a president signs on an executive order, it is limited to certain stuff but it becomes the law. First thing first is cancel all the student debt.

It is a crisis that doesn't need to exist and it is waaaaay too much money into the world when they do not have to pay it to corporations who already have billions of dollars. Things like that would make USA richer and when people are richer they can gamble a lot easier and gamble a lot more money as well.

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I don't seeit inducing a huge impact to the gambling indjstry really. Except of course if a foulplay is discovered which will direclty affect the winnings of the people who have already placed their bets. Especially for those who have already enjoyed their winnings and would have a hard time, if not an imppssible time retrieving these money.

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I don't seeit inducing a huge impact to the gambling indjstry really. Except of course if a foulplay is discovered which will direclty affect the winnings of the people who have already placed their bets. Especially for those who have already enjoyed their winnings and would have a hard time, if not an imppssible time retrieving these money.

Most of the gambling sites have disbursed the winning amount to those who made bets in favor of Biden. So in the very unlikely scenario of the election results getting overturn, I don't think that the other set of players may receive their rewards. To be honest, everyone were unprepared for this. Both the gamblers, as well as the online casinos. No one expected the election to be so close. The media was always claiming that it is going to be a blowout for Biden.

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November 29, 2020, 04:05:30 AM
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I don't seeit inducing a huge impact to the gambling indjstry really. Except of course if a foulplay is discovered which will direclty affect the winnings of the people who have already placed their bets. Especially for those who have already enjoyed their winnings and would have a hard time, if not an imppssible time retrieving these money.

Most of the gambling sites have disbursed the winning amount to those who made bets in favor of Biden. So in the very unlikely scenario of the election results getting overturn, I don't think that the other set of players may receive their rewards. To be honest, everyone were unprepared for this. Both the gamblers, as well as the online casinos. No one expected the election to be so close. The media was always claiming that it is going to be a blowout for Biden.

At the time of writing the thread, biden had won the election but trump challenged him and therefore most of the gambling sites held the results until the situation in cleared. Now it looks that there is no chance of trump electing back in the elections therefore congratulations to those who bet in favor of Biden.  

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