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November 07, 2020, 05:53:01 AM
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Decided to create a one-page Basic Bitcoin security guidelines site, as to have a quick link to give to beginners that are just getting started with hodling bitcoin. Yes, it’s intentionally not 100% complete with information concerning coin-control and such, but this is to hopefully not overwhelm the beginners.

Hope you guys like it, and happy HODLing! https://NotYourKeys.org/



I decided to create an avatar campaign! NotYourKeys.org - Community Contribution Avatar Campaign

If you want to spread the word of the importance of self custody especially now that were closing in to bitcoin's all-time high, you can help out by using the avatars below. This campaign might not get any traction at all, but if it ends up helping one person secure his or her funds then it's totally worth it.

Simply right click and save(imgur link):

       

I added colour choices just for fun.  Cheesy if you're a lot more creative than me, feel free to create your own avatar design. It's the message that matters, anyway.

or, if your signature campaign requires you to use an avatar, you can just add "NotYourKeys.org" to your personal text area instead.

NOTE: Wearing this avatar is free. It's pretty much doesn't earn any money, so I won't be able to pay anything.

Yes, the site contains a bitcoin donation address, but I don't expect to receive any donations anyway, and that's totally fine by me.

Final note: If you don't want to help out, that's totally fine. But if you want to help sharing, then in behalf of the community, I really thank you.

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November 07, 2020, 06:00:37 AM
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^ That is very informative but it looks like you input a very common problem which everyone knows and lack of information regarding the wallet. That is definitely right, not your key, not your crypto but I think the best bitcoin wallet that intends for holding long term is a paper wallet. However, this is not good for a new bitcoin holder due to the fact that probably will have a glitch upon creating a paper wallet. Nevertheless, in addition to the security list, beware of double sending transactions, they should wait for at least 1 confirmation.
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And maybe you can add this as well: [Guide] Secure air-gapped crypto wallet storage method. Regarding Ledger though, since the data breach, there have been a lot of attacks as of late,

https://cointelegraph.com/news/ledger-owners-lose-1-1-million-xrp-to-scam-site

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Since the inception of Bitcoin and the cryptocurrency industry, there has been a total of 47 exchanges hacked, with approximately $2.1 billion in stolen money from exchange users.
More than 47 exchanges has been hacked, which even shows how exchanges are not secure by descern. Use the below quote to count the numbers to make proper edition. But, I can not keep it to myself to comment about your write up, it really make good sense.


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2011 > 7
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Year Month Exchange   Amount/$ Hacked    Source:

2011  Jun. MTGOX           30.000     2.000 / BTC    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mt._Gox#Security_breach_and_invalid_addresses_(2011)
2011  Jun. Mass MyBitcoin   60.000            4.000 / BTC    blog.goodaudience.com
2011  Jul. Ubitex   15.575     1.138 / BTC    en.bitcoin.it/wiki/List_of_Major_Bitcoin_Heists,_Thefts,_and_Losses
2011  Jul. Bitomat.pl 231.570    17.000 / BTC    coindesk.com/hacker-attack-polands-bitcoin-exchange
2011  Aug. MyBitcoin                   1.072.500    78.735 / BTC    arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/12/a-brief-history-of-bitcoin-hacks-and-frauds/
2011  Sep. Mooncoin   22.300     4.000 / BTC    @wayne_huang medium.com
2011  Oct. Bitcoin7           50.000     5.000 / BTC    coinsutra.com/biggest-bitcoin-hacks/

2012 > 5
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Year Month Exchange		  	Amount/$		 Hacked	   Source:

2012  Mar. Bitcoinica 228.000    43.000 / BTC    hackernoon.com/a-huge-list-of-cryptocurrency-thefts-16d6bf246389
2012  May. Bitcoinica   87.000    18.457 / BTC    hackernoon.com/a-huge-list-of-cryptocurrency-thefts-16d6bf246389
2012  Jul. Bitcoinica 300.000    40.000 / BTC    news.bitcoin.com/bitcoin-exchange-thefts-forgotten
2012  Jul. BTC-e     4.500 / BTC    bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/btc-e-attacked-1343738085
2012  Sep. Bitfloor 250.000    24.000 / BTC    coinsutra.com/biggest-bitcoin-hacks/

2013 > 18
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Year Month Exchange		  	Amount/$		 Hacked	   Source:

2013  Feb. Bit LC     Not revealed            2.000 / BTC    themerkle.com/top-5-bitcoin-heists-of-2013/
2013  Mar. Bitcoin Rain 230.000     4.000 / BTC    bitcoinsaints.blogspot.com/p/3rd-mt.html
2013  Mar. BTC Guild     Not revealed            1.254 / BTC    bitcoinsaints.blogspot.com/p/3rd-mt.html
2013  Apr. Ozcoin 100.000       923 / BTC    bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/ozcoin-hacked
2013  Apr. ZigGap 195.000     1.708 / BTC    bitcoinsaints.blogspot.com/p/3rd-mt.html
2013  Apr. Bitcoin Central     Not revealed     x.xxx / BTC    coindesk.com/hackers-hit-bitcoin-central-exchange
2013  May. Vircurex 160.000     1.450 / BTC    coiniq.com/cryptocurrency-exchange-hacks/
2013  Jun. PicoStocks          130.000     1.300 / BTC    coiniq.com/cryptocurrency-exchange-hacks/
2013  Aug. Android RNG bug     Not revealed        60 / BTC    bitcoinsaints.blogspot.com/p/3rd-mt.html
2013  Oct. basic-mining     Not revealed     2.131 / BTC    bitcoinsaints.blogspot.com/p/3rd-mt.html
2013  Oct. GBL     Not revealed           22.000 / BTC    bitcoinsaints.blogspot.com/p/3rd-mt.html
2013  Oct. Silk Road FBI confiscation   171.955 / BTC    Silk Road - FBI.gov
2013  Nov. Just-Dice 108.807     1.300 / BTC    https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Talk:Inputs.io
2013  Nov. Bips     Not revealed     1.295 / BTC    thehackernews.com/2013/11/danish-bitcoin-exchange-bips-hacked-and_25.html
2013  Nov. Bidextreme     Not revealed       500 / BTC    bitcoinsaints.blogspot.com/p/3rd-mt.html
2013  Nov. bitcash.cz 100.000              485 / BTC    coindesk.com/czech-bitcoin-exchange-bitcash-cz-hacked-4000-user-wallets-emptied
2013  Nov. inputs.io        1.200.000     4.100 / BTC    wired.com/2013/11/inputs/
2013  Nov. PicoStocks        3.000.000     5.896 / BTC    coiniq.com/cryptocurrency-exchange-hacks/
2013  Dec. Sheep Market 100.000     5.400 / BTC    coindesk.com/sheep-marketplace-track-stolen-bitcoins

2014 > 12
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Year Month Exchange		  	Amount/$		 Hacked	   Source:

2014  Feb. Silk Road 2        2.600.000     4.476 / BTC    coindesk.com/silk-road-2-loses-bitcoins-hack
2014  Feb. Mt.Gox      473.000.000      750.000 / BTC    cointelegraph.com/news/the-mess-that-was-mt-gox-four-years-on
2014  Mar. Bitcurex             Not revealed   / BTC    coindesk.com/polish-bitcoin-exchange-bitcurex-targeted-hacking-attack
2014  Mar. Canadian Bitcoins   95.000       149 / BTC    coindesk.com/9-biggest-screwups-bitcoin-history
2014  Mar. Flexcoin          600.000              896 / BTC    coindesk.com/bitcoin-bank-flexcoin-close-600000-bitcoin-theft
2014  Mar. CryptoRush          570.000       950 / BTC    coiniq.com/cryptocurrency-exchange-hacks/#Cryptorush
2014  Mar. Poloniex           64.000        97 / BTC    coiniq.com/cryptocurrency-exchange-hacks/#Cryptorush
2014  Jul. Cryptsy                7.500.000    13.000 / BTC    coindesk.com/cryptsy-bankruptcy-millions-bitcoin-stolen
2014  Aug. BTER        1.065.000   / NXT    coindesk.com/bter-nxt-bitcoin-exchange-hack
2014  Oct. KipCoin          690.000     3.000 / BTC    selfkey.org/list-of-cryptocurrency-exchange-hacks/
2014  Oct. MintPal        1.300.000      / VeriCoin    cointelegraph.com/news/mintpal-hacked-considerable-amount-of-vericoin-stolen
2014  Dec. BitPay        1.800.000     5.000 / BTC    siliconangle.com/2015/09/17/bitpay-hacked-for-1-8-million-in-bitcoin-during-december-2014/

2015 > 7
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Year Month Exchange		  	Amount/$		 Hacked	   Source:

2015  Jan. LocalBitcoins        17 / BTC    newsbtc.com/2015/01/29/localbitcoins-hacked-17-bitcoins-stolen-amongst-users/
2015  Jan. 796Exchange          230.000     1.000 / BTC    coiniq.com/cryptocurrency-exchange-hacks/#2015
2015  Jan. Bitstamp        5.200.000    19.000 / BTC    coiniq.com/cryptocurrency-exchange-hacks/#Bitstamp
2015  Feb. BTER        1.750.000     7.170 / BTC    coindesk.com/bter-to-return-hacked-funds-following-security-partnership
2015  Feb. KipCoin 600.000     3.000 / BTC    newsbtc.com/2015/02/19/chinese-bitcoin-exchange-kipcoin-shuts-claims-losing-3000-btc-hackers/
2015  May. Coinapult   42.900       150 / BTC    coindesk.com/coinapult-loses-40k-hot-wallet-compromise
2015  May. Bitfinex        Hot Wallet Hacked     1.500 / BTC    cointelegraph.com/news/breaking-bitfinex-hot-wallet-hacked-bitcoins-stolen

2016 > 5
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Year Month Exchange		  	Amount/$		 Hacked	   Source:

2016  Mar. Cointrader     Not revealed         Shuts Down    coindesk.com/bitcoin-exchange-cointrader-shuts-down
2016  Apr. Shapeshift 230.000              469 / BTC    coiniq.com/cryptocurrency-exchange-hacks/#2016
2016  May. Gatecoin        2.140.000              250 / BTC    coiniq.com/cryptocurrency-exchange-hacks/#2016
2016  Aug. Bitfinex       77.000.000   119.700 / BTC    coiniq.com/cryptocurrency-exchange-hacks/#2016
2016  Oct. Bitcurex        1.500.000     2.300 / BTC    news.bitcoin.com/bitcurex-forced-million-theft/

2017 > 5
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Year Month Exchange		  	Amount/$		 Hacked	   Source:

2017  Apr. Yapizon (Youbit)        5.300.000     3.816 / BTC    news.bitcoin.com/hacked-korean-bitcoin-exchange-yapizon-offers-ious/
2017  Jun. Bithumb       31.000.000          Crypto    coindesk.com/bithumb-exchanges-31-million-hack-know-dont-know
2017  Aug. OKEx        3.000.000       600 / BTC    cointelegraph.com/news/chinese-bitcoin-exchange-okex-hacked-for-3-mln-police-not-interested
2017  Dec. Nicehash       65.000.000     4.736 / BTC    coindesk.com/62-million-gone-cryptocurrency-mining-market-nicehash-hacked
2017  Dec. Youbit       Stolen 17% of its assets       Shut Down    https://coiniq.com/cryptocurrency-exchange-hacks/#2017

2018 > 9
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Year Month Exchange		  	Amount/$		 Hacked	   Source:

2018  Jan. Coincheck       500.000.000   / NEM    coindesk.com/coincheck-confirms-crypto-hack-loss-larger-than-mt-gox
2018  Feb. BitGrail         187.000.000   /Nano    bitcoinist.com/bitgrail-cryptocurrency-exchange-hacked-170-million-nano-allegedly-stolen/
2018  Mar. Foxbit 270.000        30 / BTC    finance.yahoo.com/news/270-000-brazil-largest-bitcoin-172549113.html
2018  Apr. Coinsecure        3.500.000       430 / BTC    bitcoinist.com/3-5-million-bitcoin-stolen-coinsecure-exchange-hack-security-chief-suspected/
2018  May. Bitcoin Gold       18.000.000   / BTG    news.bitcoin.com/bitcoin-gold-hacked-for-18-million/
2018  Jun. Coinrail          40.000.000             Crypto    bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/south-korean-exchange-coinrail-hacked-40-million-crypto-reported-stolen
2018  Jun. Bithumb       30.000.000 Crypto    cointelegraph.com/news/from-coincheck-to-bithumb-2018-s-largest-security-breaches-so-far
2018  Jul. Bancor        13.500.000  Crypto    coindesk.com/token-platform-bancor-goes-offline-following-security-breach
2018  Sep. Zaif          60.000.000     Crypto / BTC    coindesk.com/crypto-exchange-zaif-hacked-in-60-million-6000-bitcoin-theft

2019 > 16
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Year Month Exchange		  	Amount/$		 Hacked	   Source:

2019  Jan. Cryptopia       16.000.000    Crypto / ETH    twitter.com/Cryptopia_NZ/status/1085084168852291586
2019  Jan. Liqui Crypto        lack of liquidity       Shut Down    cointelegraph.com/news/ukrainian-crypto-exchange-liqui-shuts-down-cites-lack-of-liquidity
2019  Jan. QuadrigaCX      190.000.000 Blocked    coindesk.com/quadriga-creditor-protection-filing
2019  Feb. Coinmama 450.000       emails+passwords    ccn.com/exchange-coinbene-swears-it-wasnt-hacked-traders-fear-the-worst
2019  Mar. DragonEx     Not revealed          Crypto    coindesk.com/singapore-based-crypto-exchange-dragonex-has-been-hacked
2019  Mar. Coinbene     Not revealed Blocked    blockonomi.com/coinbene-hacked-exchange-says-not/
2019  Mar. Bithumb       13.000.000          Crypto    coindesk.com/crypto-exchange-bithumb-hacked-for-13-million-in-suspected-insider-job
2019  May. Binance       41.000.000     7.000 / BTC    cointelegraph.com/news/hackers-withdraw-7-000-bitcoins-in-binance-crypto-exchange-security-breach
2019  Jun. GateHub       10.000.000   / XRP    cointelegraph.com/news/report-nearly-10-million-in-xrp-stolen-in-gatehub-hack
2019  Jun. Bitrue        5.000.000    cointelegraph.com/news/singaporean-exchange-bitrue-gets-hacked-losing-5-million-in-xrp-cardano
2019  Jun. Bitsane     Not revealed            cointelegraph.com/news/exit-scam-dublin-based-exchange-bitsane-vanishes-with-users-funds
2019  Jun. Bitcoins Norway     Not revealed    news.trijo.co/news/norwegian-crypto-exchange-wants-to-force-users-to-sell-their-cryptocurrencies/?lang=en
2019  Jun. BitMarket     Not revealed       Shut Down    cointelegraph.com/news/polish-crypto-exchange-bitmarket-shuts-down-citing-liquidity-loss
2019  Jul. Bitpoint       32.000.000           Crypto / BTC    cointelegraph.com/news/japanese-crypto-exchange-bitpoint-suffers-32-million-hack
2019  Nov. Upbit       49.000.000   342.000 / ETH    coindesk.com/crypto-exchange-upbit-confirms-theft-of-49m-in-ether
2019  Dec. PlusToken Ponzi        scammers    coindesk.com/chainalysis-report-on-plustoken-scammers-blamed-for-mondays-crypto-selloff

2020 > 4
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Year Month Exchange		  	Amount/$		 Hacked	   Source:					

2020  Jul. Cashaa          -------          336 / BTC    cointelegraph.com/news/hacker-stole-336-btc-from-crypto-exchange-cashaa
2020  Feb. Altsbit           63.000    Crypto / BTC    coindesk.com/new-crypto-exchange-altsbit-says-it-will-close-following-hack
2020  Sep. Eterbase        5.300.000    Crypto / BTC    coingeek.com/european-exchange-hacked-for-over-5-million/
2020  Sep. KuCoin              150.000.000    Crypto / BTC    decrypt.co/43015/cryptocurrency-exchange-kucoin-likely-hacked-reports

Please, post your comment if you are affected by this unpleasant situation or how you solved it, of course, it can help a lot.



Before this thread, in the forum there was a thread with very detailed information, but it is no longer updated, I leave the link in case you want to visit it, maybe some information is useful for you.

List of Major Bitcoin Heists, Thefts, Hacks, Scams, and Losses:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=83794.0
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November 07, 2020, 07:04:09 AM
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And maybe you can add this as well: [Guide] Secure air-gapped crypto wallet storage method. Regarding Ledger though, since the data breach, there have been a lot of attacks as of late,

https://cointelegraph.com/news/ledger-owners-lose-1-1-million-xrp-to-scam-site
I do think that it is an advance level for the bieginners in cryptocurrency. It is not like everyone will be a target of this attacks. I say do not flood them with information that they will not use for the time being. Kudos to OP for making an informative website to help beginners get into the community without being intimidated.

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Decided to create a one-page Basic Bitcoin security guidelines site, as to have a quick link to give to beginners that are just getting started with hodling bitcoin. Yes, it’s intentionally not 100% complete with information concerning coin-control and such, but this is to hopefully not overwhelm the beginners.

Hope you guys like it, and happy HODLing! https://NotYourKeys.org/

I think you should include Ownbit in the wallet list. I think it's the best compared to any others.
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I like the simplicity of the website to be honest.
Simple yet informative Smiley. That would be better for the eyes of other people. I also laughed a bit with the quote in the end which is true.

Possible that there will be some who will question some things in your website but that is still ok if it will improve the site.

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I think you should include Ownbit in the wallet list. I think it's the best compared to any others.

Seems like a wallet that's a bit under the radar as I've only heard of this one just now. Not saying that this wallet is bad(it actually looks good), but I'd personally prefer recommending wallets that are already quite reputable.

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This right here is not just for beginners but also for people who are still using exchanges and wallets.

I have heard about news where people actually had millions worth of Bitcoins but still decided to store them in an exchange!! You have to invest if you have to make things work out.
If you are holding Bitcoins above a certain value and you want to hold it for a long term then you should buy a hardware wallet.

- exchanges are also different , find the one that's secure and good for you
- one has to also focus on mobile security, cyber security , make sure you don't accidentally install any malicious malware , install apps from non trusted websites.

But kudos on trying to help the beginners. It's a really good initiative. Keep updating and adding !!

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November 07, 2020, 12:38:41 PM
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Website looks good but I would not say that mobile wallets are more secure than wallets installed on desktop/laptop computers.
I think there is also one error and missing letter N in word buch, and it should be bunch I think. Smiley

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Out of the buch, hardware wallets provide the best security, followed by mobile phones, then desktop/laptop computers.
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Design could be a bit better but i like the whole idea of it
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I think you should include Ownbit in the wallet list. I think it's the best compared to any others.
Unknown wallet with promising words. You should at least check other reputed wallets before comparing this new wallet of yours.

To OP, I guess you're underestimating or didn't heard on how desktop wallets especially an air-gapped desktop works, than using a mobile wallet on your definition of having the best security.
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Decided to create a one-page Basic Bitcoin security guidelines site, as to have a quick link to give to beginners that are just getting started with hodling bitcoin. Yes, it’s intentionally not 100% complete with information concerning coin-control and such, but this is to hopefully not overwhelm the beginners.

Hope you guys like it, and happy HODLing! https://NotYourKeys.org/
Well done, it can be a very good quick start guide into bitcoin security and OpSec. There are a few subjects which require a lot of study and research but I guess for a privacy-oreinted beginner it's a good place to find more than basic info.
Allow me to suggest an add to your site, regarding point 9
https://bitcoinqna.github.io/noKYConly/
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A small criticism for an otherwise great effort OP:
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A recovery seed is also referred as a "backup seed", "recovery phrase", "backup phrase", "private keys", etc.
A recovery seed is definitely not also referred to as a "private key", and if it is, then it is being done so incorrectly. They are two very different things. I would remove the words "private keys" from this sentence.

And maybe you can add this as well: [Guide] Secure air-gapped crypto wallet storage method.
Although a great post, it definitely does not fit with a "quick guide for beginners".

I think you should include Ownbit in the wallet list. I think it's the best compared to any others.
The website links to a GitHub, but the GitHub page simply contains a bunch of forks of other projects and some vary basic wallet code which is over 2 years old. Based on that, the wallet is not open source and therefore should not be recommended.

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One last thing from me: it is definitely fair to suggest using Wasabi Wallet under the Desktop category. Users should be advised that Wasabi Wallet is a different wallet though, focused on privacy. I would not use WW as I use Electrum for example. I guess beginners should first learn about the bitcoin basics and then move onto more advanced tools such as WW. I don't know if it makes sense.
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I genuinely thank you for the warm welcome of my small project, and thanks a lot of the recommendations. You guys definitely gave valuable information and opinions. Thanks a lot!

Good idea, but there are few things that could be improved.
1. You might want to define "non-custodial", it might be confusing for beginner who isn't native english speaker.
2. Remove ColdCard from list of Hardware Wallet, it's not user friendly at all.
3. Sentence "Hardware > Mobile > Desktop" is a bit ambiguous, add more context or turn it into a short paragraph.
Thanks for this. Was trying to make the page as brief and simple as possible, without realizing that I sacrificed the knowledge part.

Design could be a bit better but i like the whole idea of it
I intentionally made it a one-page as-simple-as-possible content for the beginners with a Medium-like feel, as so they wouldn't be overwhelmed by information and unnecessary designs.

Well done, it can be a very good quick start guide into bitcoin security and OpSec. There are a few subjects which require a lot of study and research but I guess for a privacy-oreinted beginner it's a good place to find more than basic info.
Allow me to suggest an add to your site, regarding point 9
https://bitcoinqna.github.io/noKYConly/

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A recovery seed is definitely not also referred to as a "private key", and if it is, then it is being done so incorrectly. They are two very different things. I would remove the words "private keys" from this sentence.
I'm completely aware that they're different things. What I meant with that part, is that some people use "recovery seed" and "private keys" interchangeably regardless if they're not exactly the same. Though I removed that part to prevent misinterpretation.

One last thing from me: it is definitely fair to suggest using Wasabi Wallet under the Desktop category. Users should be advised that Wasabi Wallet is a different wallet though, focused on privacy. I would not use WW as I use Electrum for example. I guess beginners should first learn about the bitcoin basics and then move onto more advanced tools such as WW. I don't know if it makes sense.
People can still use Wasabi Wallet without using the CoinJoin features.

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I am going back to the suggested Mobile Wallets to make a quick comment: you are suggesting three good wallets but there is one caveat that must be made. Those ones are not open source and/or the code is not reproducible (please check https://walletscrutiny.com/ for further details).


Being your site focus on privacy and security I would add some notes regarding those wallets: forward your visitors to wallet scrutiny to make their own judgement.
I know I sound pick but security is never enough. Wink
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I think you should stick to Free and Open Source wallets and operating systems. You never know what hidden exploit or backdoor could have a wallet with closed code.

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I wish we had sort of a system on bitcointalk where we force members to read this document and then take a small test based on those security concepts as one of the required criteria to get promoted to a higher level member. Like NewBie to Junior member no test but one has to pass the test to become Full Member and above. The plan is to get everyone educated on basic security-related stuff in bitcoin. This website has all the required information. Good work!
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Hey guys! I decided to create an avatar campaign for those who want to help out. Smiley Unfortunately, I'm not allowed to have an avatar yet. Maybe soon!

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On your site, you gave readers some good non-custodial wallets for desktop and mobile. Electrum wallet is listed but for desktop only. Why did you not put Electrum in Mobile wallet? Electrum has mobile wallet: https://electrum.org/#download

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    Hardware: Ledger | Trezor | Coldcard
    Mobile: BlueWallet | BRD | Samourai Wallet
    Desktop: Electrum | Wasabi Wallet

You created a good site from domain names (easy to remember) to documents but you forgot a very important thing for bitcoin wallets: Verification that must be done to avoid loss for phishing sites and bad applications.

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This is an awesome idea / site.

Is there a reason the Bitcoin Core Wallet (in the desktop section) isn't listed?
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Is there a reason the Bitcoin Core Wallet (in the desktop section) isn't listed?

Imagine yourself when you discover bitcoin for first time and ask this question to yourself, do you want to download and store 300GB+ (you only need to store few GB if you use prune mode) of blockchain while there are light wallet (such as Electrum)?

Sure, I would, I think that is the whole point of BTC. Minimizing trust.
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Sure, I would, I think that is the whole point of BTC. Minimizing trust.

That makes sense. But prooobably not a good idea to recommend for the masses. I personally think it's better to point them to the user-friendly wallets first, and if they actually want to get serious with Bitcoin, chances are they'll find their way into running their own node. Personally even as a decently tech-savvy person, I could see the possibility of me getting easily uninterested when starting out.

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