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November 09, 2020, 08:22:15 AM
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What the heck is happening? Canada’s tax authority is reportedly asking a federal court to force cryptocurrency exchange Coinsquare to hand over information and certain documents on all of its users since the beginning of 2013...

News source: https://news.bitcoin.com/canada-tax-authority-coinsquare-crypto-exchange-data-all-users/

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November 09, 2020, 08:53:29 AM
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No longer news, they can easily get their hands on those data from all the centralize exchanges out there, where they will experience a road block is with dex since no kyc is required to trade, goodluck to them, lol, this is the reason why many crypto users are avoiding all this centralize exchange because of unforeseen situations like this, one way or the other tax authority will find a way to get you, it seem not going to be easy to avoid them.   

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November 09, 2020, 09:10:58 AM
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What the heck is happening? Canada’s tax authority is reportedly asking a federal court to force cryptocurrency exchange Coinsquare to hand over information and certain documents on all of its users since the beginning of 2013...

News source: https://news.bitcoin.com/canada-tax-authority-coinsquare-crypto-exchange-data-all-users/

This is just fcuk up, seriously
It's not a fuck up, I don't expect centralized exchanges to be that loyal in the first place and I don't believe that users data are safe in the hands of any centralized entity, at least they are fully centralized after all, maybe it's finally the time for DEX to take over? Let's wait and see what will happen from here on

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November 09, 2020, 09:45:11 AM
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What the heck is happening? Canada’s tax authority is reportedly asking a federal court to force cryptocurrency exchange Coinsquare to hand over information and certain documents on all of its users since the beginning of 2013...

News source: https://news.bitcoin.com/canada-tax-authority-coinsquare-crypto-exchange-data-all-users/
Is this a Centralized exchange?if does then what can you expect?and besides Government need not to ask for it because they can just dig the info and do what they wanted.
I know that flame.exchange and most DEXs don't require KYC
So you got a chance to promote DEX exchanges lol.

Not only DEX are decentralized there are also some exchange in which not dex but have no KYC requirements.

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November 09, 2020, 09:52:11 AM
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I think this is just exchanges that is registered on Canada? But I think this is inevitable at some point. What ever their decision, they'll be affected in many ways. If they don't hand the data of the users, they might stop operating, if they hand over the data of the users, they might lose some of their users. Either way, they lose.
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November 09, 2020, 09:54:27 AM
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This is why I fear centralized exchanges, government can easily control such exchanges if they want, till this day I still trade on binance without approving KYC verifications, since I'm not hitting the minimum requirements for KYC yet I will be fine, on data part centralized exchanges can't be trusted

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November 09, 2020, 10:12:59 AM
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What the heck is happening? Canada’s tax authority is reportedly asking a federal court to force cryptocurrency exchange Coinsquare to hand over information and certain documents on all of its users since the beginning of 2013...

News source: https://news.bitcoin.com/canada-tax-authority-coinsquare-crypto-exchange-data-all-users/
Honestly I've been waiting for the time that DEX exchanges will take the power from centralized exchanges, maybe this is it? If users data are been shared with the government centralized exchanges will lose lots of customers and finally they will have to embrace DEX, I know volume and liquidity is what DEXs don't have but with this it will happen eventually
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November 09, 2020, 10:13:12 AM
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What the heck is happening? Canada’s tax authority is reportedly asking a federal court to force cryptocurrency exchange Coinsquare to hand over information and certain documents on all of its users since the beginning of 2013...

News source: https://news.bitcoin.com/canada-tax-authority-coinsquare-crypto-exchange-data-all-users/

This could spread to other countries because the government certainly wants to collect taxes from the cryptocurrency market whose transaction value continues to increase. But if this happens, I think our funds should be safe in the exchanger because the exchanger can act like a bank where we store our assets.
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November 09, 2020, 10:31:51 AM
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What the heck is happening? Canada’s tax authority is reportedly asking a federal court to force cryptocurrency exchange Coinsquare to hand over information and certain documents on all of its users since the beginning of 2013...

News source: https://news.bitcoin.com/canada-tax-authority-coinsquare-crypto-exchange-data-all-users/
This really surprised me because from before I myself had never found anything like this in other countries and even neighboring countries from Canada as well, so if I may know their purpose for asking all those documents for what?
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November 09, 2020, 10:35:03 AM
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I know this will happen for sure. The tax authorities are seeing crypto as another source to get more income for the countries. Dex is the only solution to this.
I think we will see that if it's not only canada but another countries will be trying to do the same like what canada did with coinsquare.
The tax authority seeing it as an opportunity.

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November 09, 2020, 10:36:21 AM
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November 09, 2020, 10:42:02 AM
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Then let's get ready for DEX taking over, though I'm not a fan of dex exchanges because of lack of liquidity and trading volume but I remember that binance got binanceDEX   Cool so I got nothing to worry about here, this is why I always have problem dropping my KYC information to third parties.

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November 09, 2020, 10:45:00 AM
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Tax is one of the major problem to the government and it is certain that they will not allow businesses operating without paying a single tax. But I do not like an idea of forcing an exchange to provide its customers' private data. Well, this means that governments still do not like bitcoin and other cryptoccurencies at all. Being anonymous gives people too much power which make the leader scared of

I guess Coinsquare must have a solution for this circumstance. Many consequences will happen if they decide to transfer all the data. They are likely to lose all of their reputations and clients. Compromise is necessary. There are many firms moving to other country to avoid being controlled by the governments. Personally, I want them to do that Huh
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November 09, 2020, 10:53:44 AM
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I'm wondering what government plans to do with the data, honestly I don't like this because they will know the worth of every crypto traders, I'm glad  I use dex exchanges most times for selling coins, I don't do trading much but if I have to there are still few centralized exchanges that are useable without KYC

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November 09, 2020, 11:01:10 AM
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Only exchanges that are centralized and request our personal data (KYC) can do that. If an exchange were decentralized, of course, the tax authorities would be in trouble for that. I think DEX will be the future of crypto.
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November 09, 2020, 11:27:15 AM
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This is just the beginning, in a few years, tax authorities in many countries will be more closely monitoring crypto traders and their income on centralized exchanges.  Some centralized exchanges do not ask for your personal information, but the future will still be with decentralized exchanges.
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November 09, 2020, 04:21:12 PM
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these regulations are like that, but it is very good for the future of crypto currencies,
because cryptocurrencies are recognized by the state, maybe taxes will be imposed on the condition, not all members are given taxes
There should be no reason one should trade on centralized exchanges if they don't want to pay taxes or evade them, there are so many DEX made for the exact same reason for people who wish to remain unknown and don't want to pay taxes. If paying taxes is right or wrong I don't want to get that debate going here but if you are using centralized exchanges you should be fine with the law enforcements as well.

till this day I still trade on binance without approving KYC verifications, since I'm not hitting the minimum requirements for KYC yet I will be fine, on data part centralized exchanges can't be trusted
You know Binance doesn't ask for verification for certain under limits but they can ask your verification if they found something fishy or they detect certain abnormalities.
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November 09, 2020, 04:31:34 PM
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Not only DEX are decentralized there are also some exchange in which not dex but have no KYC requirements.
I bet you're referrs to Binance since they didn't required any KYC but there's a limit with the withdrawal.

To be honest Binance DEX aren't trully decentralized exchange, they can force you to submit KYC anytime if they wanted.

When most DEX exchanges don't need KYC, actually it is a very big danger, because scammers can easily enter there and easily put useless tokens there, so users who trust the DEX exchange too much will always be victims scam.
Self education is a must in this case, you'll not be scammed since you already know how to differentiate scam token and don't be greedy.

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November 09, 2020, 04:39:54 PM
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That's the problem if we are using CEX for crypto trading, there's a big chance that the exchange site will reveal your real identity.  We can't blame the country of Canada because since the start they are against and fighting fraud activities in their country.  Tax evasion is one of the very common problems of the government, of course, they need to force implement this for the sake of economic growth.

If you don't care about your government and evade tax, there's no reason you will use DEXs in trading.  It's completely anonymous that will never reveal your real identity once government confiscates on exchange.

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November 09, 2020, 05:36:14 PM
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It's not that surprising at all as the government will surely to find a way to increase it's tax collection especially if they can see this kind of chance where
they can surely get a good amount of tax if they can force a certain exchange to pay their taxes.

But I am not so sure if it is very necessary to hand over all the users information and certain details because their is a big risk that the users privacy will be in danger
in this situation even if we can say that the one asking for it is the government itself.


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November 09, 2020, 06:27:25 PM
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What the heck is happening? Canada’s tax authority is reportedly asking a federal court to force cryptocurrency exchange Coinsquare to hand over information and certain documents on all of its users since the beginning of 2013...

News source: https://news.bitcoin.com/canada-tax-authority-coinsquare-crypto-exchange-data-all-users/
I am not sure why anyone would have any problems doing that because most of the exchanges ask for KYC and if you are comfortable doing KYC then you must be well prepared for the taxes and it would be a dumb idea to have the KYC done but try and evade taxes. I am not sure of the Canadian rules and regulations but surely if they allow trading in crypto you shouldn't be afraid.

Actually it is a little unfortunate that users who thought they were trading anonymously will now be busted but seriously exchanges don't have an option rather than to follow the legal procedure. If you have done KYC on your exchange then no need to worry at all because you played safe from start.

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November 09, 2020, 06:42:24 PM
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Well.. this is something that is expected. I always prefer Dex sites to mainstream exchanges. And to convert Bitcoins or Ethereum to fiat cash, I always use peer-to-peer platforms. A couple of years ago, Localbitcoins was the preferred platform to convert Bitcoins to fiat. But after they made it mandatory to have KYC verification, I shifted to some of the lesser known P2P platforms.
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Upon using centralized exchanges, expect that you will be facing the interfering of the government upon wanting to have the data covered up to be into their hand to have a payback on what must be paid upon issuing taxations with regards to crypto trading. We all do know that the government is the one managing the taxes from the people and use it upon such projects and related innovations that is supposedly for national use excluding personal interest and corruption. Now, anything that is operated to earn up money is need to have tax which is maybe the reason why they were asking for the data of the crypto traders on certain exchanges. Surely, centralized exchanges were obligated to do such for they were under government supervision so expect no less that they will follow through such recommendation. We are talking about legal matters in here and with regards to that, that must be a followed procedure specially by the centralized exchanges.

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Then let's get ready for DEX taking over, though I'm not a fan of dex exchanges because of lack of liquidity and trading volume but I remember that binance got binanceDEX   Cool so I got nothing to worry about here, this is why I always have problem dropping my KYC information to third parties.
Absolutely agreed with you. You know I have a few friends who use fake identities on exchanges to avoid taxes and being recognized by legal authorities and I don't like such practices but now I understand why some guys pay to buy identities online and then use those on exchanges.

Although this is a bad news but I see one positive here that is, if authorities are asking for data they are recognizing the crypto trading as legal and that makes me feel good because in certain countries the laws about crypto trading are still bogus and ambiguous. I think more and more people might shift to dex after such news but the legal traders will be more than happy to pay some taxes/fees and trade proudly.

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What the heck is happening? Canada’s tax authority is reportedly asking a federal court to force cryptocurrency exchange Coinsquare to hand over information and certain documents on all of its users since the beginning of 2013...

News source: https://news.bitcoin.com/canada-tax-authority-coinsquare-crypto-exchange-data-all-users/

For sure, they want to collect the data of the Canadian citizens and track their activity on the exchanges and then perhaps charge them the taxes which the traders had avoided. To be completely anonymous, we need decentralized exchanges. The data and the activity on the centralized exchanges can be monitored anytime.
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What the heck is happening? Canada’s tax authority is reportedly asking a federal court to force cryptocurrency exchange Coinsquare to hand over information and certain documents on all of its users since the beginning of 2013...

News source: https://news.bitcoin.com/canada-tax-authority-coinsquare-crypto-exchange-data-all-users/

I have not traded on Coinsquare but do they enforce KYC for every person who opens the account there ? 

That's one drawback of doing the KYC at exchanges.









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What the heck is happening? Canada’s tax authority is reportedly asking a federal court to force cryptocurrency exchange Coinsquare to hand over information and certain documents on all of its users since the beginning of 2013...

News source: https://news.bitcoin.com/canada-tax-authority-coinsquare-crypto-exchange-data-all-users/
Its not a wonder, every centralized exchanges under the regulation of their origin which mean they should follow what their government asks and even in future it maybe changed and centralized exchanges has no choice other than accepting it.









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This isn't surprising because from scratch that's what centralized exchanges or platform are all about, they can easily be put to trails or controlled or even manipulated, if you are surprised by this then you are just using exchanges without understanding what they are all about, DEX will surely have a solid community love in near future, Centralized platforms should be ready to lose their customers because of this
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What the heck is happening? Canada’s tax authority is reportedly asking a federal court to force cryptocurrency exchange Coinsquare to hand over information and certain documents on all of its users since the beginning of 2013...

News source: https://news.bitcoin.com/canada-tax-authority-coinsquare-crypto-exchange-data-all-users/
Canada is seemingly opposed to using Crypto in their own country.  The Government of Canada allows Crypto to operate in their own country but they have high taxes Smiley
To me , this action also makes sense that the Canadian government does not want their country to have more money laundering crimes.  It was also a political decision and I support it.

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