One more stupid Ledger app bug

[dkbit98]

What you see here is one more stupid Ledger wallet app bug that shows unreal spikes your portfolio at beginning of each month.
Everyone including Ledger developers are aware of this bug for several months and maybe even a year, but they keep ignoring it and delaying fix.
This is how they (not) fix everything in Ledger... 

I am not using Ledger app all the time, but when I need to update I always look at this spikes 

[NeuroticFish]

This is how they (not) fix everything in Ledger... 

I am not using Ledger app all the time, but when I need to update I always look at this spikes 

I am not surprised at all. I expect that there are rather few complaints on Ledger Live bugs, since the people with skills that could complain simply go for better wallet application.
Imho the main functionality of Ledger live is to update the firmware and apps. That one works well. The rest are (buggy) additions, which is a shame, since many newbies do use that wallet... 

[dkbit98]

Since Ledger Live is open source (https://github.com/LedgerHQ/ledger-live-desktop), maybe you could contribute to fix the bug or simply use another software

I am not a coder, but I am sure some novel writers from bitcointalk forum can contribute better than me  
And important part of ledger wallet is closed source.

You could disable it, by "removing" account on Ledger Live.

Yes, and I can also close my eyes and pretend everything with Ledger is just fine.

[bob123]

You could disable it, by "removing" account on Ledger Live.

Yes, and I can also close my eyes and pretend everything with Ledger is just fine.

Who cares about the wallet functionality of ledger live?

Everyone buying a ledger always gets recommended to use a proper wallet as an interface for their hardware.

Ledger live is flawed, yes. But it can be argued whether this really is worse than using a web application (e.g. trezor).
With a trezor, more secret information is being entered via the computer, which should never be the case. And don't get started with their unfixable architectural vulnerability.

[dkbit98]

Who cares about the wallet functionality of ledger live?

Stupid question.

With a trezor, more secret information is being entered via the computer, which should never be the case. And don't get started with their unfixable architectural vulnerability.

What a bunch of malarkey  
Trezor app actually works on something and not only on shitcoins like ledger, and Trezor actually care about people privacy with integrating Tor switch.
They will also add Coinjoin in next year (something ledger can only dream about)
https://suite.trezor.io/
https://blog.trezor.io/all-you-wanted-to-know-about-trezor-suite-ama-highlights-42f69a031afb

[bob123]

Who cares about the wallet functionality of ledger live?

Stupid question.

Please elaborate.

Trezor app actually works on something and not only on shitcoins like ledger

Ledger supports about 26 coins and more than 1500 tokens.
Trezor supports 1631 cryptocurrencies.

Not that big of a difference.

and Trezor actually care about people privacy with integrating Tor switch.

Tor can't be integrated into a hardware wallet.
It has to be integrated into the interface used to interact with the hardware wallet and the internet.

Wasabi automatically uses the tor network. And electrum also offers the option to connect via tor using your hardware wallet (both ledger and trezor).
Electrum and wasabi are definitely better and more recommendable than ledger live or the trezor web application.

They will also add Coinjoin in next year (something ledger can only dream about)

CoinJoin is also something which can't be implemented into a hardware wallet properly.
It is being implemented into the interface.

Wasabi offers CoinJoin with the ability to deposit onto hardware wallets.
CoinJoining from hardware wallets isn't as easy since the transactions havve to be signed in a timely manner. This would mean a person has to sit in front of the hardware wallet all the time waiting for a small time window to press a button.



I understand that you for some reason hate on ledger and try to praise trezor.
But the fact is that the trezor wallet does have an unfixable architectural vulnerability.

I feel like your aren't technically versed enough to make a competent decision on which wallet is "better" or "more secure". No offense tho.

[Husna QA]

What you see here is one more stupid Ledger wallet app bug that shows unreal spikes your portfolio at beginning of each month. -snip-

If you don't like the Ledger live app, ignore it and don't use it. Or if you need it, but you find a lot of bugs, report it to the ledger.
You can still use Ledger with Electrum or any other supported wallet.

So, is this purely a bug disclosure so that there are improvements by the developer or even to raise opinions so that other people don't like specific hardware wallets?

-snip-
I am not using Ledger app all the time, but when I need to update I always look at this spikes  :D

Does that mean you still have the Ledger Nano? If you don't like it, maybe you can donate it to someone else who doesn't have a hardware wallet yet. :)

[hugeblack]

I think that a development policy is concerned with what the customers want and not fixing the problems. If the problem does not lead to a loss of clients ’money, what they ask for first will be developed first.
So you find rapid development to add more currencies while they are not fixing bug because there is not enough demand to fix it.

If many people write to them about this vulnerability, it will be fixed soon, although they should do this faster and without the need to wait for the report.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Yeah, I've seen that pattern before on one of my balances (it was a month or so ago).  I had no idea what to make of it, so I just ignored it, as my balance was correct--and wouldn't you know, those spikes disappeared after logging in and out a few times.

There's a lot I like about the Ledger devices and Ledger Live, but all of them have their share of problems unfortunately.  It would be nice if Ledger could "smooth out" those bugs, as it would give me more faith that I'm not just using a beta version, which it feels like I am sometimes.

Who cares about the wallet functionality of ledger live?

Aw hell, I do.  I know I don't absolutely have to use it in order to store coins long-term, but sometimes I do like to logon and look at everything.  If it isn't working right, it's just a hassle.

[Maus0728]

Other than the unusual spike of your portfolio, have you also experience that after a successful coin deposit -- the transaction history and the graph does not update? It just bothers me even though the value is showing correctly, I also tried using the sync button but it does not help.

[dkbit98]

Other than the unusual spike of your portfolio, have you also experience that after a successful coin deposit -- the transaction history and the graph does not update? It just bothers me even though the value is showing correctly, I also tried using the sync button but it does not help.

Their graphs and api are obviously crap, and even if many people are complaining on email support and reddit, same problems exists for many months.
Don't worry about it, they will fix it in this century. 

[Pmalek]

Looks like the Ledger Live developers got tired of you constantly attacking and criticizing them, so they finally fixed this visual glitch with the spikes that were seen in the yearly portfolio view. It looks much more natural now. Keep bashing out on them so they can fix their app once and for all.

[dkbit98]

Looks like the Ledger Live developers got tired of you constantly attacking and criticizing them, so they finally fixed this visual glitch with the spikes that were seen in the yearly portfolio view. It looks much more natural now. Keep bashing out on them so they can fix their app once and for all.

I am not bias, so I will criticize any company or individual doing something wrong not just ledger

In looks like they fixed this stupid ledger bug and graph is looking normal (maybe they changed API idk) so I can lock this topic now.