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November 19, 2020, 01:19:27 PM
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I believe that we all know what Biden’s tax policy is going to be, as he had clearly advocated this in the run up to the elections, and now I believe is the right time to discuss what impact will it bring for Americans.

1) This policy plans to target those who earn $400,000 in wages, and levy an additional 12.4% tax on their existing tax structure.

2) Those who earn $125,000 a year will see lots of benefits from this policy:

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Lower-income Americans, by contrast, may see benefits through an expanded Earned Income Tax Credit, an expanded Child Tax Credit, and a proposal to institute free college for families that make less than $125,000 a year, Prisinzano said.


Lastly in such a pandemic year do you’ll feel that he’s right to levy additional tax on the wealthy as they’re already reeling due to covid? or do you’ll feel that he’ll relax his tax policies for a while.

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November 19, 2020, 01:29:21 PM
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In an interview even the President Trump said he used all the loop holes available in the policies to make his Companies get exemption from taxation. Right now Biden government seems to make correction to the policies. Every government at the beginning acts fast and this is why everything is started from now on, without taking into consideration the prevailing situation in the country.

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November 19, 2020, 02:05:19 PM
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That could not hurt on the low income earners and I think it is just fair in my opinion but I do not really know how the setting of a workplace in your country. But here in country where it was already implemented where low to average income earners are only getting low income tax and getting high returns in their salary. However the load of works here in our place is that if you are in higher position all the works will be passed on the lowest position but getting high salary. Those who work hard for them get less salary compared to them. This is very unfair but we have no choice because they are already in the position and we coule not do nothing except to accept it or resign.
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November 19, 2020, 02:06:10 PM
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I believe that we all know what Biden’s tax policy is going to be

Not necessarily. There may be a considerable gulf between what Biden wants to do and what he can do. Remember that—depending on the results of the GA run-offs—he is likely to face a Republican-controlled senate. I know he's a bridge-builder by nature, but still, it seems unlikely he'd get any major tax overhauls past the senate.






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November 19, 2020, 02:09:14 PM
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Post pandemic time, we will see a lot of other countries to increase tax on high networth individuals. Even in my country, the government has implemented 4% cess additional to the current tax structure on whoever is earning beyond a certain limit. As the world trade is slowing down, it makes no sense in imposing additional taxes on the corporates because then these corporates will move to a different country where the tax rate is low. But government will have to find new avenues for making money otherwise the public services will suffer at the end of the day!

I believe this tax restructuring in US is still at discussion level. But 12.4% seems quite high! Possibly the percentage would come down after deliberation.

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November 19, 2020, 02:31:06 PM
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Increase on taxation won't be that much of a problem IF the projects regarding investment and other plans would meet reality. In other words, if no corruption will happen. I live in a country wherein taxes are one of the highest but progress still is lacking simply because officials are putting the money of the countrymen in their pockets. If things of such won't happen during his presidency, plans would benefit the economy and country in general.



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November 19, 2020, 03:22:12 PM
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The above taxation is really unfair for the rich and this tax disparity will also reduce people's ambitions. Because if you work hard, the higher your salary, the heavier you will be taxed, so why work hard to get rich?
This is Biden's weakness in taking care of the economy in America. If Biden really elected, I think the United States will once again fall into critical.

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November 19, 2020, 03:36:06 PM
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By calculation with 125,000 per annum, that is about 10,000 per month and this class is referred to low income earners  Grin . Anyway, I think trump tax regime wasn't very stiff compared to what I think Biden will be doing in the later days of his administration. The tax levy has been a major generation of income to the democrats from my idea.

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November 19, 2020, 04:28:06 PM
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That could not hurt on the low income earners and I think it is just fair in my opinion but I do not really know how the setting of a workplace in your country. But here in country where it was already implemented where low to average income earners are only getting low income tax and getting high returns in their salary. However the load of works here in our place is that if you are in higher position all the works will be passed on the lowest position but getting high salary. Those who work hard for them get less salary compared to them. This is very unfair but we have no choice because they are already in the position and we coule not do nothing except to accept it or resign.
It feels unfair to have low income, while the work done is often not worth the salary you get. the government needs to check the wages of casual workers, or casual workers. If seen from the tax payment it is quite low, but there are still many workers who still complain, because there is no increase in wage prices each year.
If Biden does not follow up in America, he will be considered the leader of a country that is unable to develop the economy there.

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I think people need to stop speculating on this Tax issue, I believe there is going to be an income cap on those that fit into the tax bracket, the major thing is if the economy is doing well and people are well paid then the tax burden won't be an issue

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November 19, 2020, 09:25:48 PM
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I think people need to stop speculating on this Tax issue, I believe there is going to be an income cap on those that fit into the tax bracket, the major thing is if the economy is doing well and people are well paid then the tax burden won't be an issue
If you are going to collect unfair amount of taxes the companies may move to another country where they can make more money so its not really big problem for the companies,its going to be an issue only for the salaried people and you can't say it won't be a burden for them because you may know the actual situation only if you are in such condition.

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November 19, 2020, 09:35:49 PM
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"You will see a depression the like you have never seen before" - DJ Trump.

Taxing the top 1-5% only makes them get out from the US and invest elsewhere. It also makes foreign investments into the US not appealing. Hence, fewer jobs, less income, less consumption -> downward spiral.

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Food for thought.  ^

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I'm a big fan of the tax plan posted on Donald Trump's website (above) when he ran for President in 2016. Tax cuts for poor to middle class earners would free up income allowing consumers to individually decide how capital should be allocated. Tax hikes shift that decision making capacity into the hands of the government, rather than free markets. Personally I would prefer free markets decide how funds are allocated through competition and meritocratic process.
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November 20, 2020, 12:34:10 AM
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None of the big tech giants that helped Biden get elected actually manufacture anything. Their entire contribution is payroll taxes and any C-corp taxes they pay above that. It's the little S-corps run by mom and pop business that carry a higher tax burden. Guess who Biden is going to help.

Trump's policies were not the best as that 0% interest rate which he pushed the Feds who wanted to knee jerk raise on a growing economy in 2017/2018 but it was the best considering the crap we had to work with with an overheated housing market on the expensive coasts and a depressed workforce.

Unless all those unskilled labor masses suddenly learn to code there's going to be a lot of unemployment. Companies are going to take their capital and just allocate it to automation to avoid paying high corporate rates Biden institutes - or they'll just leave the country.
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It is already hurting Americans.
Usd is losing value against most currencies world wide. And he didnt even started doing what he promised.
I understand it was hard to vote in Donald Trump... but  to raise  taxes is quite crazy also.


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While it indeed benefits the low-income families, I think it is extremely untimely and quite unfair for the government to levy additional taxes to certain sectors in the middle of a pandemic and economic crisis. I think a new tax policy could wait for several months, until the smoke of the present crisis settles down. It could be implemented while the recovery is ongoing. But, as it is, Biden's tax policy looks fair enough.

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November 20, 2020, 07:33:45 AM
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It is already hurting Americans.
Usd is losing value against most currencies world wide. And he didnt even started doing what he promised.
I understand it was hard to vote in Donald Trump... but  to raise  taxes is quite crazy also.
Tax raise policy that Biden wants to propose does not hurt Americans, remember that taxes is used to fund infrastructure that benefits the public. I think that it is fair that people earning more money should pay more taxes. USD will not completely lose its value because there is a gold backing the fiat. I understand the sentiment of the taxes that are mishandled and mismanaged that might be the reason that taxes leave a sour after taste but trust me, taxes is the reason why there are roads and bridges. Just consider tax as your rent to your country that you are living in, sort of.

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November 20, 2020, 08:07:58 AM
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"You will see a depression the like you have never seen before" - DJ Trump.

Taxing the top 1-5% only makes them get out from the US and invest elsewhere. It also makes foreign investments into the US not appealing. Hence, fewer jobs, less income, less consumption -> downward spiral.

I've never been remotely convinced by this argument. It's pure scaremongering. A small tax increase for the ultra-rich doesn't suddenly transform the US into a socialist dystopia where everyone is haemorrhaging money and it's impossible for billionaires to make a profit, and they have to spend vast amounts of money uprooting and establishing a base in a different country.






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Donald Trump's reduced tax rate cuts have not succeeded in creating jobs in America.

Yet the number of employed people during his term has grown by 6 million.
From the article the OP quoted:

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Between 2021 and 2030, Biden’s plan calls for raising $3.375 trillion in additional tax revenue and increasing spending by $5.37 trillion.

Yeah, tax the kulaks, tax the rich give to the poor, indebt your self to buy votes for poor people on promises that will lead only to make them poorer.
How many times has this shit failed and how many times do we need to see it fail to understand the who damn concept is fundamentally broken?
But I think it's about time the US has a bit of taste of real socialism and it will teach them a lesson for a century or so, one they will not be able to forget.

USD will not completely lose its value because there is a gold backing the fiat.

First time I've heard of this! Care to explain a bit further?  Grin

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November 20, 2020, 08:46:25 AM
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We cant not know yet. But Trump's policies have made wealthy people and companies become even wealthier. The new policies is a way Biden promising to reduce the rich-poor gap and improve the standard of those who live under condition. Though, nothing ensures that everything will be ameliorated after new policies. Just wait and see how we use the tax for national purposes.

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