Satoshi Nakamoto Lived In London While Working On Bitcoin + proof

[bitpotter]

It's interesting analysis, but it won't help much to discover Satoshi identity since it's not proof, but mere possibility. Additionally the analysis uses assumption that Satoshi follow common sense.

Legit proof is what we really need to know who the real Satoshi is. However, wherever he is right now I believe that he still deserves peace and privacy because that's the path that he had chosen despite the existence of Bitcoin. These assumptions and conclusions still couldn't prove us anything. I'm sure that he has his own reason why he's keeping his life in private if ever he's still existing.

Here I also want to know who Satoshi Nakamoto is and where he is now. One thing is for sure, he has created a digital currency technology that is now being adopted by many people and many companies. Of course it also makes our lives easier without having to bother carrying paper money everywhere, because all we have to do is scan the barcode, fill in the amount, send it to the address and it's done. So I am very grateful to this person named Satoshi Nakamoto. We wish you good health and a long life!

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[usekevin]

Santoshi identity has always remain a controversy as some individual has tried to steal his identity to scam people into believing them and they projects, I know the great santoshi anonymousity has given room to so many claims.

You are right brother.All the time people try to share they was a Sathoshi. Not only for the proud, but also for the controversy to the market.But the original sathosi will not show they indetity for sure.Because they will have nearly 1 million bitcoin and he will sell that happily. Surely he will live their life like a king without a kingdom.

[omone1]

All these are just still guessing and remain so. The identity of Satoshi will remain anonymous and people will keep laying claim to the name. Where is BCH "BSV" king who always claimed he was the real Satoshi? and deceived a lot of his followers, they should be regretting today, having held BSV and missed the BTC moon.

[verita1]

Satoshi has an unknown identity because he wanted it that way. He has been a genius from the get-go while creating Bitcoin. It is still impressive and a mystery to talk about Satoshi today. The reading is still interesting, however I prefer to appreciate the legacy that Satoshi left us and the beginning of the disruption of money.

[sayaya17]

Uncovering the mystery of Satoshi’s figure is still a debate and a conspiracy theory. For those who want to investigate and prove the truth of Satoshi figure is not easy, because accurate evidence must accompany the claim. But so far I don’t think there have been any investigations or conspiracy theories confirming that Satoshi Nakamoto has been found. Russia, London, America or wherever Satoshi, this is not enough to prove

[NelfiNovita]

I still doubt this news, I don't think he's Satoshi Nakamoto because so far his whereabouts are still a mystery.  So a question for me, why is Satoshi Nakamoto just announcing his whereabouts now?  I think there is an element of deception.

[Gotumoot]

That's really interesting to know but still his identity is still unknown after all. Does this proof shows that Satoshi Nakamoto lived in London?
Or maybe that was just a temporary residence when he created the Bitcoin?

ya.ya.yo!

I agree to this even if we found out where Satoshi was located at the time Bitcoin was being created we wouldn't know the real identity of the creator.
Who knows maybe Satoshi is already a millionaire before the BTC was created and doesn't really have a permanent address that loves to go to different places or country.

[BitcoinFX]

Speaking from personal esperience and thoughts: when you want to hide something, you will try to do and think everything out well before you start actually hiding it. Satoshi more than likely knew people would be going heavily after him if Bitcoin ever became a successful project, and so he more than likely planned his entire Internet existence very well.

I'd imagine he even went for some stuff such as using prepaid disposable SIM cards as his Internet connection, which today is quite hard to do considering the new (at least European) restrictions on purchasing prepaid cards. Faking your timezone is quite easy to do (and mostly doesn't even require intentionally faking it). Each of us has a different daily schedule, so he may be a night owl just as well as being an "early bird". His time activity doesn't say much, or at least nothing to rely on as an information imo.

One particular thing I've thought about is that he might've even used one of his closest friends (or co-workers) to write the Internet  posts and BTC Whitepaper for him. That makes it very easy for me to pose as a native American, British or whatever on the Internet.

Let's not forget something: Satoshi has created the banking system's Enemy. I am pretty sure he went all in and looked for the best and safest ways to keep his identity anonymous before he even leaked a single word about his project on the web. Hence, I really think trying to find his real identity will only end up as a now-even-larger mystery with even more questions than we had before.

What if he specifically changed his working schedule just to fake his timezone?
What if he used the British news specifically to make us believe he's British?
What if someone else actually wrote all those posts instead of him, and he was just the mastermind behind them?

It's all a mystery. He created it, he launched it, he wanted his privacy. Let us give at least that much back to him as a reward.

I despair.

"... as we know, there are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns – the ones we don't know we don't know ..." - Donald Henry Rumsfeld

You all know we know the following, (right!?) ...

Excerpt;

- https://whoissatoshi.wordpress.com/2016/02/20/satoshi-in-california/

"... Debug Log

In the initial days of Bitcoin, the software used IP address to send and receive bitcoins. For this reason the debug log becomes crucial for the investigation. It reveals IP’s of 3 users who were connected to the IRC. This happened on 2009-01-10. Satoshi and Hal were the only two people working on the project during that time. ..." [citation's needed]

I have researched these IP addresses extensively against old Tor exit node lists, old proxy lists and old GeoIP (maxmind) database lists.

Whois Satoshi? Known Satoshi IP addresses? ...
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5155191.msg51497775#msg51497775
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5155191.msg55065045#msg55065045

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How can I put this ... the true satoshi candidate had an internet presence before the creation of Bitcoin. He (seemingly) later increased obfuscation and went pseudonymous, before disappearing after Bitcoins inception was considered successful (even unsuccessful!? See: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Value_overflow_incident) and/or because he got spooked. The most likely satoshi candidate is in fact hidden in plain sight, if you know where to look. He quite literally moved onto other things.

Who told you Satoshi Nakamoto did not want to be found ? Media mythopoeia and 'community' hearsay ?

It's now a complete farce! A total media circus! Why would the real satoshi even want to return?

London ...  

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Take Me Back To London (feat. Stormzy) [Official Lyric Video]
- https://youtu.be/ehQcuKhO5n0

[DougM]

includes some more related musings on the timestamps

Researcher Publishes Never Before Seen Emails Between Satoshi Nakamoto and Hal Finney
https://www.coindesk.com/satoshi-nakamoto-hal-finney-emails

Researcher Publishes Never Before Seen Emails Between Satoshi Nakamoto and Hal Finney by Jamie Redman
https://news.bitcoin.com/researcher-publishes-never-before-seen-emails-between-satoshi-nakamoto-and-hal-finney/
Just recently three previously unpublished emails from Bitcoin’s inventor, Satoshi Nakamoto, have been made public. The emails reveal the correspondence between Satoshi and the early Bitcoin developer Hal Finney. The communications between Nakamoto and Finney stem from November 2008 and January 2009, the very month Bitcoin was launched.

On November 27, three emails that have never been seen before were made public in an editorial written by Michael Kaplikov, a professor at Pace University. According to Kaplikov, the emails derived from the New York Times contributor Nathaniel Popper. The NYT journalist also wrote the book “Digital Gold” and Hal Finney’s wife Fran Finney gave Popper the emails at this time. Kaplikov published the emails alongside his editorial after confirming that the emails were indeed legitimate, and stemmed from the now-deceased Hal Finney’s old computer.
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The very next day, Hal Finney took to Twitter and told his followers he was “running bitcoin.” It seems Finney did get a chance to look at the code after his recent correspondence with Nakamoto. In addition to the three unpublished emails, Kaplikov also discussed the email correspondence between Finney and Nakamoto that was given to the Wall Street Journal back in 2014.

The reason for this is because Kaplikov discusses discrepancies with the email’s timestamps. Kaplikov stresses that the January 2009 emails appear to be roughly eight hours ahead of Greenwich Mean Time (GMT). Just recently, new research from The Chain Bulletin contributor Doncho Karaivanov tried to pinpoint Satoshi’s home location by leveraging all his activity and scatter charts of all the timestamps.

Karaivanov’s study assumes that Satoshi Nakamoto lived in London (GMT) when he/she or they created the Bitcoin project. However, studies from the past show that Nakamoto could have also resided in California on the west coast and some have asserted he lived on the eastern side of the United States. Moreover, it is also assumed in a few of the studies that Satoshi Nakamoto pulled a lot of ‘all-nighters’ and crammed his work before he left the project.

[wiss19]

How sure are we about these claims? Though I will agree that I have seen theories that said Satoshi Nakamoto writings are mix of British and American English and some say it’s only British English, but there have also been claims that he’s from Japan.

Even on Wikipedia it says that he was born in Japan, and his nationality is Japan. Then just today I have seen another forum member that posted a theory that claims that Satoshi Nakamoto is from Russia and that the Russian government must be aware of it and are covering it up, and this website also have their own “proof”, lol you all have proof. You know what? I am just tired of all these theories, I will just wait till Satoshi is ready to reveal his identity with proof.

[Silberman]

Since I entered this Forum, maybe, I've seen a topic about Satoshi 100x, possibly more.

OP, I have a question for you.
1. Why don't you think for yourself, how can you buy Bitcoin as much as possible, which has been made by Satoshi for mankind in this world.
2. What's in it for you, if you find out that Satoshi lives in London.
3. If it is true that Satoshi lives in London, then what can you do, you want to tell the FBI or the king/queen of England.
4. Stop looking for Satoshi, enjoy and take advantage of what Satoshi left to the world today, Bitcoin.

Hopefully in the future people will realize that Satoshi was never found.

While I agree that we must enjoy and take advantage of the legacy that he left behind him at the same time it is simply too tempting for people to keep speculating about who he is, after all if bitcoin really becomes as big as we think it can get then the mystery and the interest about his identity will only increase, think about it, the story of the creation of bitcoin is almost legendary, and unknown person created something that changed the world and we have no clue who he was, this ignites the imagination of people and this will keep being the case for generations to come.

[Shasha80]

I still doubt this news, I don't think he's Satoshi Nakamoto because so far his whereabouts are still a mystery.  So a question for me, why is Satoshi Nakamoto just announcing his whereabouts now?  I think there is an element of deception.

Yeah, many have identified themselves as Satoshi Nakamoto before, but none of them can prove it. And people don’t believe it because no one
meets the criteria as a satoshi. When bitcoin is growing in popularity, it is only natural that there are people who want to be popular as well
by recognizing themselves as Satoshi Nakamoto.

[Ridwan Fauzi]

I have no interest with satoshi conspiracy anymore, whoever he is and whereever he is I don't care with it. I just focus on myself to buy bitcoin as much as I can and even it would be better if I learn more strategy about trading  for provisions, yeah I think it more useful rather than looking for an information about satoshi nakamoto.

There may be two type person to respect his service, first like you who keep finding more information about satoshi nakamoto. And two, respect what he makes and use it as if he can't escape and for me I belong to the second type, I like bitcoin because it has given me many thing especially teaching me how to be a person who have financial freedom.

[Mr.sprin]

The question is whether the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto has been revealed. Many people have been digging for information on Satoshi but no one has found it yet, and now there is news that Satoshi is in London, can I believe it? I am personally not sure about this news.

[so98nn]

Since I entered this Forum, maybe, I've seen a topic about Satoshi 100x, possibly more.

OP, I have a question for you.
1. Why don't you think for yourself, how can you buy Bitcoin as much as possible, which has been made by Satoshi for mankind in this world.
2. What's in it for you, if you find out that Satoshi lives in London.
3. If it is true that Satoshi lives in London, then what can you do, you want to tell the FBI or the king/queen of England.
4. Stop looking for Satoshi, enjoy and take advantage of what Satoshi left to the world today, Bitcoin.

Hopefully in the future people will realize that Satoshi was never found.

Pretty awesome thought by this guy.

We all should be mature enough to understand that it doesn't matter if we ever found out whose Satoshi and who isn't. It won't change anything in the world if we ever came to know whose that guy. He did his job, and looking at the success of blockchain one can say that he loved doing his job. Whether he is alive or into the heavens doesn't matter anymore. It's public ledger, people will keep contributing to Satoshi's workflow. They will re-develope it as and when required.

The serious question is, how are we doing with the crypto space that was invented by someone unknown? Just consider the whole crypto is Satoshi himself and move on.

Conspiracy theories would be built on and on to claim the fame and nothing else.

[BitcoinMoses]

London !?

Excerpts;

"... On first glance, all three locations seem plausible. In London, he is a night owl, working until the early hours of the morning and sleeping until noon. On the east coast, he works all the way up until the end of the day and then sleeps until early morning. On the west coast, he is an early bird, going to bed early in the night, but also waking up very early. Looking at this data alone, we cannot determine, beyond reasonable doubt, which time zone Satoshi lived in. ..."

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"... In summary, Satoshi’s activity on Bitcointalk and SourceForge, and his emails, all set a clear pattern. Using that pattern we can make reasonable guesses as to where the mysterious inventor of Bitcoin resided while working on the project. The patterns laid out by all the charts above clearly confirm the three most probable time zones – Greenwich Mean Time (GMT), Eastern Time (ET), and Pacific Time (PT). ..."

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"... This translates to March 24, 2009 at 11:33:15 UTC-6. This date also falls into the DST period, but is obviously not Pacific time. It is Mountain Time (MT). States which fall into this time zone include New Mexico, Arizona, and Utah. ..."

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More like San Diego ... !?

- https://whoissatoshi.wordpress.com/2016/02/20/satoshi-in-california/

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Check the date format ...



Bitcoin.org snapshot 3rd March 2009.

Source: https://web.archive.org/web/20090303195936/http://bitcoin.org/

BitcoinFX,

You know that I lived in London and still I am living in London. I cannot keep silent anymore. It is too much for me. Just leave me alone please.

[oktana]

Hey OP, he lived in my country. Nothing's gonna change. Even the it's his identity, if it gets revealed to you right now, you'll definitely see that knowing him or not, you still have to buy your bitcoins

[FinneysTrueVision]

Analyzing timestamps is far from being definitive proof. It is just speculation. There have been other studies that came to a different conclusion. Unless Satoshi decides to come forward we will never know who he was. It does not matter to me if we ever find out his true identity because the project belongs to the community now and not a single person. That is what differentiates Bitcoin from other cryptocurrencies where the creator is treated like a king.

[BitcoinFX]

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BitcoinFX,

You know that I lived in London and still I am living in London. I cannot keep silent anymore. It is too much for me. Just leave me alone please.

@BitcoinMoses - I don't know you at all.

[Walterhank]

It could be true as a matter of fact there are 90% chances that it is true. But still, who knows his real identity, he hasn't made any contact with the world and a lot of time has been passed since his first contact.