The Kracken!

[Tzupy]

Anything after Dec 14th when the Electoral College votes is irrelevant since you can't go back.

Not true. The Congress will decide on the 6th January which Electors are the correct ones. And in the meantime, Trump may win enough
lawsuits that the Congress will decide in his favor. It's a longshot, but not impossible, especially if foreign interference will be reported soon.

Kris Kobach: January 6 ‘May Very Well Be a Big Fight in Congress’ over Election
https://www.breitbart.com/radio/2020/12/15/kris-kobach-january-6-may-very-well-be-a-big-fight-in-congress-over-election/

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[BADecker]

The Kraken is starting in the USA. Watch the Twitter video.


SolarWinds HQ Raided in Austin -- More News Coming on CEO

Last night the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA) issued a rare Emergency Directive 21-01, in response to a KNOWN COMPROMISE involving SolarWinds Orion products.

This was only the fifth Emergency Directive issued by CISA under the authorities granted by Congress in the Cybersecurity Act of 2015.

CISA reported a breach of the SolarWinds Orion products.

This Emergency Directive called on all federal civilian agencies to review their networks for indicators of compromise and disconnect or power down SolarWinds Orion products immediately.

Dominion Voting Systems uses SolarWinds products.
It's right there on their website.

This afternoon a guest on Hannity told the popular conservative host the FBI, US Marshals and Texas Rangers were raiding SolarWinds headquarters in Austin Texas!

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Murray
🇺🇸
@Rothbard1776
BREAKING per guest on @seanhannity’s radio show: “The FBI, Texas Rangers & US Marshals are all at the SolarWinds HQ in Austin, TX” looking at their systems. Notes the Executive VP sold 57k shares [$1.2M] on 11/9. The CEO, Kevin Thompson, had sold 700k shares [$15M] 10 days later

TheSharpEdge
@TheSharpEdge1
About that Major SolarWinds CyberSecurity Threat...

This is a Must Listen.

SOUND ON:

https://radio.com/talk1370/listen

[theymos]

Theoretically, the Republicans could still take it on the 6^th by throwing out some states as "irregular". The House votes weirdly in this process, so the Republicans would control both chambers here. They'd have to all stick together, though: only a few Republican defections could be tolerated. McConnell is apparently completely against the idea, so unless this reporting is wrong and even most centrist Republicans like Romney and Collins can be persuaded to pretty transparently steal this election, it seems dead in the water.

(I would love to see it, though. Can you imagine the utter chaos? I think that it'd hold up in court, too.)

The lawsuits were a bit ridiculous and I think the extreme far right Trump base with the IQ of a peanut legitimately believes there was magnitudes of fraud that stretch hundreds of thousands of votes. Just isn't enough evidence. On the other hand, it was hilarious watching the far left (and the media) have a melt down over "democracy dying" when Trump literally followed the law in contesting the results by letting the legal process play out. For some weird reason, democrats seem more concerned about Trump and contested election results more so than a rabid media that managed to fool Americans that Trump is responsible for COVID, that he said it was a hoax, that he's a racist, that a vaccine at the end of the year was impossible, so on. But why be concerned when it helps, right?

Both sides are interested in winning, not in truth or the rule of law. In an amusingly parallel situation, in Iowa a Republican was certified as the winner by a narrow margin, and instead of going through the proper court appeals process under Iowa law, the Democratic challenger is going to the House to try to have it overturned. If anyone expects Pelosi's House to treat this fairly and objectively, especially when she has only a few-vote majority, then I have a bridge to sell you...

It's kind of disturbing that many Trump supporters actually believe that there was fraud on such a wide scale, or that many Democrats honestly believed that Trump was literally on Putin's payroll, etc. There are too many people out there living in their own bubbles instead of in reality.

[mindrust]

@Theymos

America is tasting its own poison.

The truth is whatever the stronger side makes it to be.

I don't remember anybody punishing the US for their war crimes against Japan or Syria.

Biden looks strong enough with all the  propaganda and money power with MSM, social media, big pharma and Wallstreet behind him.

If they were interested in truth, twitter wouldn't be censoring their president's tweets.

Years ago most people believed smoking cigars was a healthy thing because TV told them.

[Tash]

“It’s a Real Simple Fact to Prove that There Was Massive Fraud in This Election” – Inventor of QR Code Can Prove It"

President Trump has the law and the US Constitution on his side.
Back on November 6th, only three days after the election, retired Intel Operative Tony Shaffer, said not to worry, the President has the Constitution on his side and will win the election.
Shaffer had tweeted the day before, that it was likely fraudulent ballots could be identified , and if so, they will prove that President Trump won the election.
Today we have astonishing support for Tony’s remarks.

(From the Donald.win website)

IT Expert Jovan Hutton Pulitzer, the inventor of platform known as ‘QR Code‘ which is on about 12 billion devices around the globe, believes ballots can be scanned to determine validity.

    When I started looking at ballots… I realized that everybody was speaking geek…It’s a real simple fact to prove that there was massive fraud in this election.

    …We can take the physical ballot, the image scan of the ballot in the machine, the CVR file in the machine, and I can even take a shredded bag of ballots and do what we do.
I want everybody to understand these physical ballots from the election, when they go into the machine, it basically makes a duplicate copy. 
That’s your property as an American citizen.  We own it for 22 months after the election. 
And so when these courts started saying, well you can’t look at it, I realized it was all technical smoke and mirrors, to fool judges, to fool lawyers, to say oh we can’t really do it. 
So let me tell you how easy it is…

[TwitchySeal]

(From the Donald.win website)

lol are you serious?

[suchmoon]

The House votes weirdly in this process, so the Republicans would control both chambers here.

Would they? I thought electoral vote counting objections are voted on by each chamber separately via simple majority.

[theymos]

Would they? I thought electoral vote counting objections are voted on by each chamber separately via simple majority.

Looking into it more, I think that I was wrong and you're right about that. It seems that both chambers have to first agree to accept an objection, which the House won't do under Democratic control. (Or maybe Trump will promise Medicare for All to get some Dem defectors? )

There may still be some doubt. I heard an interview with an unbiased legal expert on C-SPAN a while ago who seemed uncertain what would happen if there were objections and eg. Pence started playing games in the joint session.

[suchmoon]

Pence started playing games in the joint session.

I think that's the only technically plausible loophole but it would break decades of precedent, would be constitutionally questionable, and there is an equally unprecedented option for dems to walk out, which may prevent the joint session from continuing since it requires both the Senate and the House to be present.

[squatz1]

(From the Donald.win website)

lol are you serious?

You're telling me that 'TheDonald.Win' isn't a reputable website that people use with reputable journalists? God, how could that be possible?

It's almost as reputable as NY Times, WSJ, Axios (my new personal favorite), and so on and so forth.

Would they? I thought electoral vote counting objections are voted on by each chamber separately via simple majority.

Looking into it more, I think that I was wrong and you're right about that. It seems that both chambers have to first agree to accept an objection, which the House won't do under Democratic control. (Or maybe Trump will promise Medicare for All to get some Dem defectors? )

There may still be some doubt. I heard an interview with an unbiased legal expert on C-SPAN a while ago who seemed uncertain what would happen if there were objections and eg. Pence started playing games in the joint session.

Pretty sure you were thinking of if no one got above 270 in the voting count meaning that every state would get one delegation sent based on who controls the state legislatures in their states. Republicans control the majority there, with 26(?) states. (Pretty sure)

But yeah, the process of this is simple majority in both chambers. A Republican in the House is going to need someone in the Republican in the Senate to back their proposal. Pretty sure Mo Brooks has not announced who his Republicans' senator is at this point, as he is already planning on bringing this up on the House floor once objections are asked for.

This shit is getting pretty old pretty quickly though, lol.

[BADecker]

Getting more exciting by the minute.


Epic counterattack readied against “Cyber Pearl Harbor”

Today’s Situation Update for Dec. 16th is embedded below. It runs about 87 minutes. Here are the highlights:

*    Results of Dominion Voting Systems forensic audit concludes the machines are deliberately designed to alter votes through artificially high error rates followed by manual adjudication (fixing) of ballots.
*    Dominion machines were set to a 68% error rate in Antrim County, and then a 70% error rate in Clark County, Nevada, now showing two counties involved in the criminal election rigging and theft.
*    Trump knows this “Cyber Pearl Harbor” is bigger than 9/11.
*    Mitch McConnell goes “full RINO” and tells other Senators to accept the Biden electoral votes on Jan. 6th.
*    President Trump accuses Dominion machines of producing “fake election.”
*    Sidney Powell calls for every Dominion voting machine to be seized and forensically audited.
*    57% of Republicans believe Trump victory still likely through court action.
*    Wisconsin Supreme Court renders decision about voter ID on special ballots, effectively throwing 200,000 votes into dispute. (This is how Trump wins Wisconsin.)
*    Trump accuses Michigan Secretary of State of criminal misconduct.
*    Details about the SolarWinds hack and the CISA Emergency Directive 21-01.
*    GOP Chairperson of AZ says GOP electoral votes are the “legally cast votes” for the state.
*    How a Jan. 6th “contingent election” is likely to turn out.
*    Prather says Trump will wait until the very last minute to invoke the Insurrection Act.
*    Trump could nullify all U.S. national debt owed to China, over China’s use of biological weapons and cyber warfare against America.
*    Lin Wood tells Americans to prepare, seemingly about getting ready for troops in the streets.
*    The Fourteenth Amendment allows Trump to strip electors from public office if they violate their oaths of office and support rebellion or insurrection. This means Trump could instantly win the Jan. 6th electoral votes by simply invoking the Fourteenth Amendment before that day.

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Notes from today’s Situation Update

[Tzupy]

MI Democrat Sec Of State Benson REFUSES To Testify Before Legislative Oversight Committees
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/mi-democrat-sec-state-benson-refuses-testify-legislative-oversight-committees/

I have to comment on the very high error rates, like 68%, of Dominion machines. I believe those were caused by a bug, possibly triggered by operator's poor training.
I believe that "normal" fraud settings would be something like: switch 5% - 10% from Trump to Biden, which is much harder to detect.
There is also the issue of the actual ballots, just flipping votes would be eventually detected. Some of the real ballots for Trump could have been removed and sent to
shredding / burning, while fake ballots for Biden (possibly printed in China) could have been brought to replace them. So finding shredded ballots (which are supposed
to be preserved) is essential in proving that there was a vote switch.
 

[TwitchySeal]

MI Democrat Sec Of State Benson REFUSES To Testify Before Legislative Oversight Committees
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/mi-democrat-sec-state-benson-refuses-testify-legislative-oversight-committees/

From her response:

Thank you for the invitation to speak about the Nov. 3 general election with the House OversightCommittee. I am aware of the hearings the Committee has conducted, and am concerned that contrary toyour desire to “get to the bottom” of election questions, they are instead amplifying already debunkedconspiracy theories and previously disproven claims of people who lack basic knowledge of electionadministration, and in doing so undermining the integrity of the election and wounding our democracy.

In a recent hearing of your committee, leadership was handed over to an out-of-state private attorneyhired by a political candidate who lost in the recent election. That individual proceeded to spout falseand baseless accusations against Michigan public servants - including more than 1,600 election clerksand tens of thousands of election workers. He called Wayne County’s chief judge, a Republicanappointee, a “hack” and suggested various individuals should be prosecuted based on zero evidence ofwrongdoing. Just prior to the hearing this same attorney suggested that you and your colleagues would be threatened if you did not act as he would like and overturn the outcome of the election, despite thefact that Attorney General William Barr, the FBI and CISA have confirmed its security and accuracy.Indeed, the hearing was deemed such an embarrassment, lacking in merit and any form of decorum, thatit was mocked on national comedy shows as a clear waste of taxpayer dollars.

Can't blame her for turning down the invitation.

I have to comment on the very high error rates, like 68%, of Dominion machines. I believe those were caused by a bug, possibly triggered by operator's poor training.
I believe that "normal" fraud settings would be something like: switch 5% - 10% from Trump to Biden, which is much harder to detect.
There is also the issue of the actual ballots, just flipping votes would be eventually detected. Some of the real ballots for Trump could have been removed and sent to
shredding / burning, while fake ballots for Biden (possibly printed in China) could have been brought to replace them. So finding shredded ballots (which are supposed
to be preserved) is essential in proving that there was a vote switch.
 

nonsense^^^  Don't be so gullible.

[squatz1]

MI Democrat Sec Of State Benson REFUSES To Testify Before Legislative Oversight Committees
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/mi-democrat-sec-state-benson-refuses-testify-legislative-oversight-committees/

From her response:

Thank you for the invitation to speak about the Nov. 3 general election with the House OversightCommittee. I am aware of the hearings the Committee has conducted, and am concerned that contrary toyour desire to “get to the bottom” of election questions, they are instead amplifying already debunkedconspiracy theories and previously disproven claims of people who lack basic knowledge of electionadministration, and in doing so undermining the integrity of the election and wounding our democracy.

In a recent hearing of your committee, leadership was handed over to an out-of-state private attorneyhired by a political candidate who lost in the recent election. That individual proceeded to spout falseand baseless accusations against Michigan public servants - including more than 1,600 election clerksand tens of thousands of election workers. He called Wayne County’s chief judge, a Republicanappointee, a “hack” and suggested various individuals should be prosecuted based on zero evidence ofwrongdoing. Just prior to the hearing this same attorney suggested that you and your colleagues would be threatened if you did not act as he would like and overturn the outcome of the election, despite thefact that Attorney General William Barr, the FBI and CISA have confirmed its security and accuracy.Indeed, the hearing was deemed such an embarrassment, lacking in merit and any form of decorum, thatit was mocked on national comedy shows as a clear waste of taxpayer dollars.

Can't blame her for turning down the invitation.

I have to comment on the very high error rates, like 68%, of Dominion machines. I believe those were caused by a bug, possibly triggered by operator's poor training.
I believe that "normal" fraud settings would be something like: switch 5% - 10% from Trump to Biden, which is much harder to detect.
There is also the issue of the actual ballots, just flipping votes would be eventually detected. Some of the real ballots for Trump could have been removed and sent to
shredding / burning, while fake ballots for Biden (possibly printed in China) could have been brought to replace them. So finding shredded ballots (which are supposed
to be preserved) is essential in proving that there was a vote switch.
 

nonsense^^^  Don't be so gullible.

Gotta respect the ability to so quickly audit people online with real information that is supported by facts.

No reason to walk into a literal ambush that would force yourself to be in the clown show. Why even do that to yourself?

Lawsuits has been used by Trump campaign / Republican officials and so on and it has brought nothing to the table as they have nothing backing them. It's over.

[DanWork]

^^^ Trump really only needs one, firm, proven Dominion machine, election fraud to crack this whole thing wide open. If a judge certifies that there was election fraud, the dominoes could easily start falling against Biden.

There's already plenty of proof, the problem is over coming the power behind this coup. What good is having proof when the people won't even get to see it. When the judges will not accept it?

[Tzupy]

The Numbers Don’t Lie: Data Scientists Break Down Voter Fraud in Arizona and It’s Shocking – 790,000 Laundered Votes Injected Into the System (VIDEO)
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/numbers-dont-lie-data-scientists-break-voter-fraud-arizona-shocking-video/

[sirazimuth]

In other news, a YouTube vid proves the earth is flat.
Also some new footage of Bigfoot.
And this just in.... aliens are planting monoliths all over the farm...

Oh wait....off topic.. my bad...

FEAR THE KRAKEN!  (or is it Kracken? I'm starting to mistrust these squiggly red lines...)

[Gyfts]

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/12/17/gop-legal-war-absentee-voting-georgia-runoffs-447266

For the record, I think mail in ballots is a joke, so yes, I am bias.

BUT - Republicans are pushing hard to limit mail in voting by filing lawsuits. I hope they are successful. If you are legitimately sick, in service overseas, then yes, you should be able to vote by mail. It's different by state, but I'm sure that's the case in Georgia.

COVID is not an excuse for universal mail in voting. If you can go to the grocery store, you can vote. If you can go to the liquor store, you can go vote.

[dupeddonk]

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/12/17/gop-legal-war-absentee-voting-georgia-runoffs-447266

For the record, I think mail in ballots is a joke, so yes, I am bias.

BUT - Republicans are pushing hard to limit mail in voting by filing lawsuits. I hope they are successful. If you are legitimately sick, in service overseas, then yes, you should be able to vote by mail. It's different by state, but I'm sure that's the case in Georgia.

COVID is not an excuse for universal mail in voting. If you can go to the grocery store, you can vote. If you can go to the liquor store, you can go vote.

If you take all politics out the equation and agree that more voters = better representation = successful democracy then I think it really does come down to the ratio of [how many more people will vote] : [how many more fraudulent ballots will be cast]

It's not as simple as 'we shouldn't have universal mail in voting bc fraud'.  The fact that there will be millions fewer voters should weigh heavily when forming an opinion and it seems like most people don't even consider that because it's not like the people who would've voted by mail but couldn't and didn't vote in person for whatever reason will ever complain.  But their voices should count the same as yours  At least imo.

And all this is coming from a born and raised republican that has not even considered thinking like this till the past couple years.  I guess i'm a former Repulican really with how things are now.  Weird feeling.

[Laudanum]

Theoretically, the Republicans could still take it on the 6^th by throwing out some states as "irregular". The House votes weirdly in this process, so the Republicans would control both chambers here. They'd have to all stick together, though: only a few Republican defections could be tolerated. McConnell is apparently completely against the idea, so unless this reporting is wrong and even most centrist Republicans like Romney and Collins can be persuaded to pretty transparently steal this election, it seems dead in the water.

(I would love to see it, though. Can you imagine the utter chaos? I think that it'd hold up in court, too.)

The lawsuits were a bit ridiculous and I think the extreme far right Trump base with the IQ of a peanut legitimately believes there was magnitudes of fraud that stretch hundreds of thousands of votes. Just isn't enough evidence. On the other hand, it was hilarious watching the far left (and the media) have a melt down over "democracy dying" when Trump literally followed the law in contesting the results by letting the legal process play out. For some weird reason, democrats seem more concerned about Trump and contested election results more so than a rabid media that managed to fool Americans that Trump is responsible for COVID, that he said it was a hoax, that he's a racist, that a vaccine at the end of the year was impossible, so on. But why be concerned when it helps, right?

Both sides are interested in winning, not in truth or the rule of law. In an amusingly parallel situation, in Iowa a Republican was certified as the winner by a narrow margin, and instead of going through the proper court appeals process under Iowa law, the Democratic challenger is going to the House to try to have it overturned. If anyone expects Pelosi's House to treat this fairly and objectively, especially when she has only a few-vote majority, then I have a bridge to sell you...

It's kind of disturbing that many Trump supporters actually believe that there was fraud on such a wide scale, or that many Democrats honestly believed that Trump was literally on Putin's payroll, etc. There are too many people out there living in their own bubbles instead of in reality.

What a brilliant post.

Of course those in power seldom seek the truth or action what would be objectively fair.
People especially types that tend to end up with any significant power are able to rationalize their undeniable bias and unfair standards or double standards for their own or their friends advantage. The independently verifiable truths are often either ignored or rejected.

It will not matter which shall win in this scenario as only the illusion of choice on the real game changing matters exists. The inexorable outcome for the vast majority is the same.

The supreme court should have heard the case and then crushed it if it lacked bite.
That's the thing though transparent independently verifiable analysis is not welcome.
Now you'll have a scenario where many will believe what suits them which wouldn't be possible if there were to be a conclusive public debunking.

I start to favor a good dictatorship over this democratic charade. Of course depending on the dictator.
I see now that democracy in all forms is simply a way to remove any real accountability its like a malignant cancer that's impossible to isolate and remove. A dictator is more of a benign matter. Of course neither generally work out well for the general populace.
Optimal governance could be devised by AI  but privacy and free speech should be primary concerns.

I don't see this being overturned now. Which is bad because Trump was way less sickly and I feel free speech was something that would suffer slightly less. The grab them by the pussy rather than pretend you want to hear all their problems and are really interested in them on a personal level with a view to supporting them forever approach is a certain type of honesty that one can appreciate is not optimal but certainly an improvement over sly and devious game.

The kraken better get cracking time is all but at an end. I guess the result is irrelevant to most long term.