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November 29, 2020, 05:27:38 PM
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According to the french national gambling authority. The gambling in france showed 49% more gambling activity in the third quarter with a recovery which supposedly gave 1.6 billion Euro as revenue.

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France’s gambling regulator Autorité Nationale des Jeux (ANJ) announced the impressive recovery of the country’s gaming market, with 49% more betting activity during the third quarter, with €1.6 billion. Despite the pandemic, French operators have bounced back and reported a 17% increase in Q3 revenue year on year.

The ANJ reported that the online gambling turnover for the first three quarters of 2020 went up 11% compared to last year, reaching €1.2 billion.

This was actually due to :
-online Gambling related to sports events

The authorities have advised to look for steps to ensure player protection and to see if minors are playing and engaging in the same.

I do believe that we have yet another country whose recovery from the pandemic was linked to the online gambling industry. Thus I do believe that banning gambling is something that is not the solution rather the countries should look forward to regulate them. One can always engage in responsible gambling.

France really sets an example for other countries alike. I do think the countries where the gambling is open and regulated are going to recover faster as compared to the others since they are generating immense revenue for the government and at the same time the players also have a lot to choose from.

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November 29, 2020, 05:53:46 PM
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+ Revenue  =  - More losses into their citizens.

This is why you can really saw that other countries aren't really considering this kind of option and still do ban neither offline or online gambling.
They don't care about revenue or what but rather they do focus on with their citizens protection towards addiction or getting broke.

Yeah, it might be having its pro's but you cant really force them to have some re-consideration on accepting it instead.

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November 29, 2020, 06:29:06 PM
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As most businesses resume we might also see economic slowly recovers, gambling taxes also contributes to this recovery most especially if a certain country depend on it. Its all about balance after all, casinos pay their employees, players enjoy the services and the government collect taxes.
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November 29, 2020, 06:50:54 PM
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+ Revenue  =  - More losses into their citizens.

This is why you can really saw that other countries aren't really considering this kind of option and still do ban neither offline or online gambling.
They don't care about revenue or what but rather they do focus on with their citizens protection towards addiction or getting broke.

Yeah, it might be having its pro's but you cant really force them to have some re-consideration on accepting it instead.

Even in the Europe , many countries have started increasing the gambling revenues and therefore this way even though the small gambling companies might loose their fort we would still be able to see governmental bodies siding towards the online gambling.

The pandemic is horrific and thus I do believe that we need resources which would be able to continue providing the government bodies the revenues they needs

Gambling is something that have the potential to generate good audience even when everything is now online, thus I believe more countries should consider making it legal. Example: India. Everyone is very aware of the local gambling that's been going on since ages but the law is firmly negative. By allowing the gambling they can not only regulate it positively, which would be more responsible for them but they can also get good revenues and make better decisions.

France is just another example to prove that.

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November 29, 2020, 07:14:22 PM
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Online gambling are really helping the gambling companies, even some events were still available and accessible on the internet for betting purposes during the pandemic. I think this will not be only france but many parts of the world as things are becoming back to normal. With time, the gambling industry will like before and also grow higher. But as people will continue to gamble, they need not to be addicted and also be using what they can afford to lose.

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November 29, 2020, 07:59:05 PM
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According to the french national gambling authority. The gambling in france showed 49% more gambling activity in the third quarter with a recovery which supposedly gave 1.6 billion Euro as revenue.

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France’s gambling regulator Autorité Nationale des Jeux (ANJ) announced the impressive recovery of the country’s gaming market, with 49% more betting activity during the third quarter, with €1.6 billion. Despite the pandemic, French operators have bounced back and reported a 17% increase in Q3 revenue year on year.

The ANJ reported that the online gambling turnover for the first three quarters of 2020 went up 11% compared to last year, reaching €1.2 billion.

This was actually due to :
-online Gambling related to sports events

The authorities have advised to look for steps to ensure player protection and to see if minors are playing and engaging in the same.

I do believe that we have yet another country whose recovery from the pandemic was linked to the online gambling industry. Thus I do believe that banning gambling is something that is not the solution rather the countries should look forward to regulate them. One can always engage in responsible gambling.

France really sets an example for other countries alike. I do think the countries where the gambling is open and regulated are going to recover faster as compared to the others since they are generating immense revenue for the government and at the same time the players also have a lot to choose from.


I would not rely on gambling to recover as the money taxed from gambling which they say is 1.6 billion Euro in revenue is 1.6 billion Euro lost amount for French citizens.The recovery should come from many business activities recovering and reopening slowly.
Gambling is not the solution as the money taken from all the gamblers who gambled during the lock down because of the pandemic,we don't know how each individual have reacted to the lost amount,I hope no extreme bad events have happened because of this.That is why I think gambling can be an add-on for people who want to gamble and not be promoted by any government as a mean of economic recovery.

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November 29, 2020, 08:27:56 PM
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Gambling is something that have the potential to generate good audience even when everything is now online, thus I believe more countries should consider making it legal. Example: India. Everyone is very aware of the local gambling that's been going on since ages but the law is firmly negative. By allowing the gambling they can not only regulate it positively, which would be more responsible for them but they can also get good revenues and make better decisions.

As far as I know Skill based games are legal in India, Things that are involving fortune and money together are considered illegal in India.
You know, In these densely populated low-income countries, most people are living below the poverty line. Due to the high unemployment rate, most people will want to gamble and become a upstart in a sudden, which will disrupt public life.

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November 29, 2020, 08:55:41 PM
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Well, the third quarter of the year had been so crucial for everyone around the globe since it's a month already when the lockdown has started and not only french but also other people really experienced boredom during those months and perhaps, -- they chose to play online gambling to reduce the ennui and because of this French authority generated a higher revenue on those months compared to the previous years. And I assume that it might continue to increase since the French have started going back to work and they're getting income again, they might tend to enjoy and experience their gambling activity again same as they did it prior to the pandemic. This may not be applicable to other countries, it could be similar depending on the regulations set by their government towards casinos and online gambling site.









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November 29, 2020, 08:56:36 PM
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According to the french national gambling authority. The gambling in france showed 49% more gambling activity in the third quarter with a recovery which supposedly gave 1.6 billion Euro as revenue.
It will be a general situation globally as people started using online gambling sites once all the restrictions are in place and every country started closing their boarders and forced to shut down all the businesses and people who had nothing to do started spending time online and gambling is one such market that attracted the most crowd and the revenue globally will be in multiple billions.
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Gambling is not the solution, but generally it can help countries just like what France's report says. And that's why many countries are allowing casinos to be open with safety protocols. Even Vegas is already open, because they need to generate money to stir the economy.

And we all know that there are a lot of pros and cons of gambling whether online or offline. But then again, when the situation is getting worst, the government need all the help it need to stand up their economy and gambling is one sector that can really initiate the flow of money.

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That's one of the aspects of high income, economic recovery will feel easy in future when state treasury has accumulated economic development in many sectors will emerge and if that happens I really appreciate it but what about the residents? maybe half disagree because their income also has go out to play gambling, lucky if win yeah if lose will disturb the household and smashed plates that are slammed without eating all night

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November 29, 2020, 09:17:09 PM
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The gambling industry does really partake a huge portion of a country's entire economy. And good to see that France is recovering somehow through their gambling industry. If other countries who have banned online gambling will take a look into it as an inspiration and base their case study. We might see them opening their borders for their citizens to also conduct online gambling. Not unless, their physical casinos also shares a huge part in their economy and starts to complain taking online casinos down and halt their operations.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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November 29, 2020, 09:18:49 PM
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Isn't France one of the Countries where gambling is banned? In a couple online casinos, i did check out their Terms and conditions and France was part of the list of Countries whose Citizen were not allowed to gamble.

Generally the whole issue of banning gambling is not cool. It's like governments are trying to control how their citizens are supposed to spend the money they sweated to make.

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That's very impressive, nicely done! I think that this increase in sports betting during Q3 might have resulted from numerous sports events cancellation at the end of Q1 and the first half of Q2, during the lockdown, but as the system began to recover - a lot of long-awaited games happened one after another, causing a rise in betting activity. However, the same thing probably happend in other countries as well, so no doubt that proper regulation from the government played an important role here.
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Higher than last year's revenue, very impressive because we are facing the pandemic and yet people still gamble more, I don't see this coming though but I like the news as that revenue will be able to help rebuild or improve their economy, we all know that France was already heavily affected by the covid-19 pandemic. So this would also say that despite of the pandemic, gambling industry still are profitable.

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November 29, 2020, 11:35:19 PM
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France really sets an example for other countries alike. I do think the countries where the gambling is open and regulated are going to recover faster as compared to the others since they are generating immense revenue for the government and at the same time the players also have a lot to choose from.


The general consensus are pointing to this, not only in France this is one of the time that they are giving the gambling industry a positive look, this is a good example for countries who are still strict in gambling  they should be open in accepting gambling whether offline or online, as they are a big help in terms of taxes at this kind of times.


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November 29, 2020, 11:56:46 PM
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This is a great news for the gambling community in France because it looks like they are getting back to a normal situation and hopefully more countries will also recover from the big loss. France didn’t impose a hard lockdown as far as I remember so maybe this is why they easily bounce back from the big fall back, anyway this is still a good news and I wish them a more safety gambling experience, let’s all follow the safety protocol.

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The pandemic showed the positive side of the gambling industry - the most performed industry during the pandemic period even with some concerns that people should be careful about their spendings during the period as every cents count.

While drawing a positive impact on a country, it's really a must for them to have it more regulated as illegal gambling operations are also taking advantage. They need to shutdown those so more people will only use the legit ones.

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November 30, 2020, 12:20:38 AM
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+ Revenue  =  - More losses into their citizens.

This is why you can really saw that other countries aren't really considering this kind of option and still do ban neither offline or online gambling.
They don't care about revenue or what but rather they do focus on with their citizens protection towards addiction or getting broke.

Yeah, it might be having its pro's but you cant really force them to have some re-consideration on accepting it instead.

This is true, however, the gambling industry contributes a lot to the economy. It's one of the best sources of taxes. Even in our country casinos are starting to re-open with the strict policy in regards to social distancing and limited player slots per table. So, both has pros and cons, more losses to it's citizen, more taxes for the government.
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It is not too surprising because most sports have already come back. The most popular sport for gambling is soccer where national and European level tournaments have resumed their operations. There is also online gambling which is easy to do from home and it wasn't affected negatively during the pandemic. Once the virus is under control we will see all the postponed events like the Olympics and World Cup qualifiers all happening within a short timespan and we will see an explosion in gambling activity.

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November 30, 2020, 01:37:25 AM
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It is good news to see the gambling industry can recover in this pandemic so that they can make money again in hard situations. As a business that contributes to the taxes on the country, it will bring a recovery process to that country, and slowly the country will recover the economy. With the other businesses trying to recover as what the gambling industry does, sooner or later, the situations will be normal, even if the pandemic still be with us. Each business can be related to each other, and it could bring a good impact on them which will lead the country to have a better situation in the future.
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November 30, 2020, 03:33:04 AM
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It is good news to see the gambling industry can recover in this pandemic so that they can make money again in hard situations. As a business that contributes to the taxes on the country, it will bring a recovery process to that country, and slowly the country will recover the economy. With the other businesses trying to recover as what the gambling industry does, sooner or later, the situations will be normal, even if the pandemic still be with us. Each business can be related to each other, and it could bring a good impact on them which will lead the country to have a better situation in the future.
That still depends whether the government has a solid economic plan because relying on gambling industry alone will not be enough to stand back to their feet again, that is also assuming that every gambling platforms and houses are paying their taxes, some are exempted because of tax write offs for their charities. The best course in my opinion is to help the smaller businesses during these trying times because large ones are the biggest blackholes when it comes to economic stimulation, large corporations/businesses do not reserve emergency funds for their businesses, they use most of their money for stock buybacks which is pretty BS because in this times, this large capitalists are using our taxes to keep their company afloat.

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Online gambling is becoming more popular among gamblers because we are in a pandemic and it's safer to gamble online. This is really nice for their part that France is now in the process of recovering. And I like how they see the benefits of regulating gambling in terms of revenue to help them. Even with the struggle in our current situation, the gambling industry is still doing well and it can be a help for their economy to recover.
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Isn't France one of the Countries where gambling is banned? In a couple online casinos, i did check out their Terms and conditions and France was part of the list of Countries whose Citizen were not allowed to gamble.

Generally the whole issue of banning gambling is not cool. It's like governments are trying to control how their citizens are supposed to spend the money they sweated to make.
Yes most of casino gambling games are forbidden on line, but poker and betting are allowed even if it's very regulated and restricted, platforms have to be registered with a special authority and not all kind of bets are allowed. Big platforms have usually special version dedicated to France.

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November 30, 2020, 06:42:04 AM
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It is good news to see the gambling industry can recover in this pandemic so that they can make money again in hard situations. As a business that contributes to the taxes on the country, it will bring a recovery process to that country, and slowly the country will recover the economy. With the other businesses trying to recover as what the gambling industry does, sooner or later, the situations will be normal, even if the pandemic still be with us. Each business can be related to each other, and it could bring a good impact on them which will lead the country to have a better situation in the future.

No doubt that online gambling may be the one of the fund resources of one country especially at this time of pandemic. At this time of pandemic i guess banning of online gambling wasn't suitable since every nation were facing an economic downfall growth. While we are waiting for the normalize of the world and economic, a better choice of France's government to allow online gambling on operation since it may not affect the health protocol that was imposed i guess the only issue that may arise was the proper regulation of user/player (age limitation).

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Isn't France one of the Countries where gambling is banned? In a couple online casinos, i did check out their Terms and conditions and France was part of the list of Countries whose Citizen were not allowed to gamble.

Generally the whole issue of banning gambling is not cool. It's like governments are trying to control how their citizens are supposed to spend the money they sweated to make.
Yes most of casino gambling games are forbidden on line, but poker and betting are allowed even if it's very regulated and restricted, platforms have to be registered with a special authority and some kind of bets are forbidden, live betting and exchange betting are not allowed for example. Big platforms have usually special version dedicated to France.

I don't have a list of countries which have a banned rules and regulations about gambling. But as i know France was one of the county which has a lot of strict rules and regulations but the mere fact that France gambling business  or online gambling were recovering then it only means that France were open minded to the potential of gambling to give them a potential income from taxes. Here in our country casino business were legally operated but due to pandemic it were temporary stop operation.

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Online gambling has increased a lot lately and the credit goes to Covid-19 I believe. People used to enjoy going to casinos to gamble.
But now people can gamble from the comfort of their home. But it also has it's down sides that people tend to over gamble without limiting themselves.
Online gambling has also encouraged teens to gamble on gambling sites.
It is good that authorities are regulating gambling sites and restricting people under 18 from gambling.
I think every gambling site should be regulated and only people who are eligible to gamble should be allowed to gamble on that site.


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November 30, 2020, 08:26:59 AM
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the growth is because of sports ? thats weird for me because i thought that sports now are verry limited and most casinos/gamblers now are foccusing on non sport based games but i see that the number of campaigns here in the forum are coming from sports based sites , that could be true .  its cool that online gambling can contribute most on the recovery of a country and other governments now starts unbanning gambling sites but regulating crypto/blockchain based gambling is i think not good
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+ Revenue  =  - More losses into their citizens.
You Get it Mate because the more Casinos are gaining is the larger the People losing and What is the Most important the Revenue from the Gambling operators or from the gamblers that Losses their Money Daily because of gambling operation.
This is why you can really saw that other countries aren't really considering this kind of option and still do ban neither offline or online gambling.
They don't care about revenue or what but rather they do focus on with their citizens protection towards addiction or getting broke.
The more people lose their Money is the More they cry for help from the government,Yeah it is their Mistake to gamble but if there are no gambling houses they have no chance of losing.
Yeah, it might be having its pro's but you cant really force them to have some re-consideration on accepting it instead.
Well we have different views in each matter specially the government that need to consider the majority.

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According to the french national gambling authority. The gambling in france showed 49% more gambling activity in the third quarter with a recovery which supposedly gave 1.6 billion Euro as revenue.




Thye are one of the early industry that recovers easily because of the stay at home policy because of the pandemic and it's not only in France many other countries also showed the same data, Argentian for one has increased the tax because of the increase in revenue of online gambling registered in their country, we can safely say that online gambling is a lifesaver for these countries, which suffer from the pandemic.

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No one can say for sure when the COVID-19 pandemic will end, therefore the government must have the courage to allow
the gambling industry to run again. I support countries that reopen casinos, as France and USA have done. Despite the pros
and cons, It must be admitted that the gambling industry can contribute significantly to improving the country's economy.
Because the circulation of money at online or offline casinos is very large, so if the gambling industry can be reopened,
it can become state income.

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+ Revenue  =  - More losses into their citizens.
You Get it Mate because the more Casinos are gaining is the larger the People losing and What is the Most important the Revenue from the Gambling operators or from the gamblers that Losses their Money Daily because of gambling operation.
This is why you can really saw that other countries aren't really considering this kind of option and still do ban neither offline or online gambling.
They don't care about revenue or what but rather they do focus on with their citizens protection towards addiction or getting broke.
The more people lose their Money is the More they cry for help from the government,Yeah it is their Mistake to gamble but if there are no gambling houses they have no chance of losing.
Yeah, it might be having its pro's but you cant really force them to have some re-consideration on accepting it instead.
Well we have different views in each matter specially the government that need to consider the majority.

It is true that the more revenue they have, it means more losses from their citizens.
However, the government is not obliging these people to gamble during this crisis.
If these individuals can play even during this crisis, this means most of them can afford to gamble.
Because if you are a responsible family member, you will not gamble the money that is needed for your family's needs.
So that kind of situation, is not the fault of the government but the individual himself.
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November 30, 2020, 08:56:13 AM
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According to the french national gambling authority. The gambling in france showed 49% more gambling activity in the third quarter with a recovery which supposedly gave 1.6 billion Euro as revenue.


This was actually due to :
-online Gambling related to sports events


This is not such a huge surprise, because we all experienced the same on the forum. I am a huge fan of gambling, and usually went 3-4 times per year to a casino near my home town. But now with the pandemic, I couldn't even go once this year. And due to the availablity of online casinos lately, with more and more promotions being offered it's hard to gamble a lot more from home these days.
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According to the french national gambling authority. The gambling in france showed 49% more gambling activity in the third quarter with a recovery which supposedly gave 1.6 billion Euro as revenue.


So Good for france that at least in gambling Area their country is recovering but i am curious on how does it happen since the Lockdown and quarantine happens?

Meaning their casinos are open even in pandemic state>

But well it is enough that in one side gambling is in recovering while other businesses continues to struggle.

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November 30, 2020, 01:10:07 PM
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Hard to believe that French people haven't found a way to go online and gamble with crypto before this though! I mean isn't France the land of democracy and freedoms, I thought everyone there automatically even have their schools teach them to use VPN and everything else online;)

Come to think of it though I don't really see French people gambling online in the communities I'm active in. Food for thought!

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I agree with their statements on the regulation of online gambling.

The numbers speak for themselves- 1.6 billion in revenue due to online gambling and some countries prohibit such due to the conflict between morals and revenue. To be honest, this kind of revenue can be a game changer especially to third-world countries who seek an alternative method of earning revenue.

One thing that I do want to point out is the regulation of online gambling. Due to its nature, there is that potential threat of minors engaging into this activity which is obviously, immoral. I do hope that the government provides a system where it can balance its revenue power and morality/accessibility of minors.

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According to the french national gambling authority. The gambling in france showed 49% more gambling activity in the third quarter

France really sets an example for other countries alike. I do think the countries where the gambling is open and regulated are going to recover faster as compared to the others since they are generating immense revenue for the government and at the same time the players also have a lot to choose from.


Lockdown and work from home gave rise to people actively playing in online gambling and not only in France but other countries which regulate online gambling they made good recoveries because of the taxes they pay to the government, this is a rare time that the gambling industry is helping many countries to survive this pandemic, the government should thank the gambling section for their help.

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November 30, 2020, 07:59:05 PM
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They are doing pretty well as they were able to bounce back even if the money is coming from the gambling activity. I will just hope that they will ensure that they will strictly regulate every casino in their country so the minors can't freely play in any of their casinos.

Pandemic really affects almost all the countries and recovering from it is a big challenge in every government but France was able to recover from it so I salute them for it. In our country also, I saw that they are earning a good amount of taxes that are coming from the casinos so I guess it is not that bad as long as it is fully regulated for a responsible gaming.
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According to the french national gambling authority. The gambling in france showed 49% more gambling activity in the third quarter

France really sets an example for other countries alike. I do think the countries where the gambling is open and regulated are going to recover faster as compared to the others since they are generating immense revenue for the government and at the same time the players also have a lot to choose from.


Lockdown and work from home gave rise to people actively playing in online gambling and not only in France but other countries which regulate online gambling they made good recoveries because of the taxes they pay to the government, this is a rare time that the gambling industry is helping many countries to survive this pandemic, the government should thank the gambling section for their help.

Its on that typical side and the thing that majority of them did really make out such increase that had been given into the gambling industry side because they do know that
these places or businesses do generate more more than into those typical businesses but to think that this isn't only the reason on such recovery.

Always consider that there are some specially on the essentials side where the most common demand as always.They do have differences but having on the same contribution and
which did really give out some positive impact on overall economic state.

There are several countries which are on the same state as France for gambling to be that relevant towards recovery.

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I think the surge was similar in other countries too, mainly because of people being bored during lockdown and the presidential race. Not because of any particular advances in gaming technology or whatnot.

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I do believe that we have yet another country whose recovery from the pandemic was linked to the online gambling industry. Thus I do believe that banning gambling is something that is not the solution rather the countries should look forward to regulate them. One can always engage in responsible gambling.

This story has absolutely nothing to do with regulation imo. Nor do I think that a nation's economic recovery can be attributed to one particular sector, let alone a relatively small gambling sector.

But yes, it doesn't make sense for a country to pursue draconian restrictions only to miss out on taxation revenue from gaming companies that would simply be forgone if the only choice facing consumers are unregulated casinos.
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That still depends whether the government has a solid economic plan because relying on gambling industry alone will not be enough to stand back to their feet again, that is also assuming that every gambling platforms and houses are paying their taxes, some are exempted because of tax write offs for their charities. The best course in my opinion is to help the smaller businesses during these trying times because large ones are the biggest blackholes when it comes to economic stimulation, large corporations/businesses do not reserve emergency funds for their businesses, they use most of their money for stock buybacks which is pretty BS because in this times, this large capitalists are using our taxes to keep their company afloat.

I am sure the government has a solid plan for their country to manage their country. They will not give any difficulty to the business that obeys their rule, and the government will help a small business that starts to recover. Even the government could provide a loan for that business, and not just to the gambling business because every business in their country is worth to deserve help. However, the business itself needs to remake its plan in these situations, know what they should do, and don't just wait for government support.

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No doubt that online gambling may be the one of the fund resources of one country especially at this time of pandemic. At this time of pandemic i guess banning of online gambling wasn't suitable since every nation were facing an economic downfall growth. While we are waiting for the normalize of the world and economic, a better choice of France's government to allow online gambling on operation since it may not affect the health protocol that was imposed i guess the only issue that may arise was the proper regulation of user/player (age limitation).

No, I don't think the government will ban online gambling. On one side, people need entertainment while they stay at home. On the other side, the government can try to facilitate online business to grow. That is not just for the gambling business because the government encourages every business owner to communicate to them to discuss what they need in this pandemic.

People can follow the health protocol with online gambling because they don't have to go to the crowd or the casino place. They can play gambling from their home, and they can order food service from their mobile phone.
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I do believe that we have yet another country whose recovery from the pandemic was linked to the online gambling industry. Thus I do believe that banning gambling is something that is not the solution rather the countries should look forward to regulate them. One can always engage in responsible gambling.
Banning was indeed never the answer. Banning is simply countries running away from possible problems and implications, and not really facing it head on to prevent any more mishaps in the future. Let's be real, if they were to ban Gambling simply because people irresponsibly use their money on them, then they should ban EVERY form of entertainment out there. There are a lot of people who spend irresponsibly on those, and yet they allow it don't they? Gambling was never the one in the wrong, it was the way most people attacked the issues that were wrong.

Anyway, glad that at least they know when to face that gambling can actually help a country. Just goes to show how any industry can actually prove to be helpful, just that the mindset of most people is locked and refuse to accept it.

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December 01, 2020, 08:14:40 AM
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They are doing pretty well as they were able to bounce back even if the money is coming from the gambling activity. I will just hope that they will ensure that they will strictly regulate every casino in their country so the minors can't freely play in any of their casinos.
Short question,Does France government really supports gambling industry ?because why on all businesses it is gambling that first bounced and not other business?
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Pandemic really affects almost all the countries and recovering from it is a big challenge in every government but France was able to recover from it so I salute them for it. In our country also, I saw that they are earning a good amount of taxes that are coming from the casinos so I guess it is not that bad as long as it is fully regulated for a responsible gaming.
But i will salute them more if the recovering comes from legit businesses like first commodities and manufacturing .

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Maybe Gambling is a good industry in france because even in Times like this pandemic yet the gambling community is faster to recover compared to other countries in which the gambling had been fallen because of the strict policy of Health protocols.

Though In our country the casino houses are already open but with 50% capacity only and the Online gambling has been approved as well.

So basically in sooner time We will be like France that gambling business is back on track and may be resulting to extra added taxation.
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They are doing pretty well as they were able to bounce back even if the money is coming from the gambling activity. I will just hope that they will ensure that they will strictly regulate every casino in their country so the minors can't freely play in any of their casinos.
Short question,Does France government really supports gambling industry ?because why on all businesses it is gambling that first bounced and not other business?
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Pandemic really affects almost all the countries and recovering from it is a big challenge in every government but France was able to recover from it so I salute them for it. In our country also, I saw that they are earning a good amount of taxes that are coming from the casinos so I guess it is not that bad as long as it is fully regulated for a responsible gaming.
But i will salute them more if the recovering comes from legit businesses like first commodities and manufacturing .

it's important to take into account that there's no data on other businnes here, probably other areas bounced too, specially the ones related to internet and online sales (like ecommerce and infoproducts, as an example)

also not only in France but to many countries.

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The economy will recover fast if the government will allow for the casinos to 100% operate but the problem is it is too crowded especially in traditional casinos that may cause to the growth of the active cases of the covid 19 virus and it is the reason why for me it is good if majority of casinos will just operate 50% in order to maintain the physical distancing and to avoid the growth of the virus. It is good that the government of France let the casino operate again and they are getting huge tax from it to fund different types of project that can help to their economy to recover. In my country the casinos are now starting to operate again but the problem is they remove a lot of workers because of the expenses and they are not fully operating wherein it is not yet crowded like before and the health protocol inside casinos are so strict inside the casinos. 

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They are doing pretty well as they were able to bounce back even if the money is coming from the gambling activity. I will just hope that they will ensure that they will strictly regulate every casino in their country so the minors can't freely play in any of their casinos.
Short question,Does France government really supports gambling industry ?because why on all businesses it is gambling that first bounced and not other business?
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Pandemic really affects almost all the countries and recovering from it is a big challenge in every government but France was able to recover from it so I salute them for it. In our country also, I saw that they are earning a good amount of taxes that are coming from the casinos so I guess it is not that bad as long as it is fully regulated for a responsible gaming.
But i will salute them more if the recovering comes from legit businesses like first commodities and manufacturing .

it's important to take into account that there's no data on other businnes here, probably other areas bounced too, specially the ones related to internet and online sales (like ecommerce and infoproducts, as an example)

also not only in France but to many countries.


yeah any business related to online are now skyrocketing because people find it convinient to transact or play online now that going outside is verry complicated .

 on other countries they also excel on other online business but france is more notable because of thier gambling industry which has growned alot with the help of online gambling specifically sports .

gambling is a legit form of bussiness in general but just like any other business there are offenders which make thier business illegal  . i dont know if they do count them
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at least in other part of the world Gambling is recovering that fast because here in our country it is just recently that the government allows the casino to open and the online sites to operate legally.

though i don't think that gambling should be the first to make recovery yet it will help the government to generate funds from taxation.

Hope that sooner all the businesses in france will recover as they are one of the most affected of pandemic also.









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Maybe Gambling is a good industry in france because even in Times like this pandemic yet the gambling community is faster to recover compared to other countries in which the gambling had been fallen because of the strict policy of Health protocols.

Though In our country the casino houses are already open but with 50% capacity only and the Online gambling has been approved as well.

So basically in sooner time We will be like France that gambling business is back on track and may be resulting to extra added taxation.

Maybe Gambling is a good industry in france because even in Times like this pandemic yet the gambling community is faster to recover compared to other countries in which the gambling had been fallen because of the strict policy of Health protocols.
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I never knew that gambling business were in good at France but knowing that even in the midst of pandemic gambling recovers were amazing. Every nation should consider the potential of gambling in economic development and growth.

So basically in sooner time We will be like France that gambling business is back on track and may be resulting to extra added taxation.
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For sure in time that vaccine may discover and people were trying to be back in normal life, hence the economic were much affected the only way to recover from the huge loss due to pandemic were through extra added of tax.

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at least in other part of the world Gambling is recovering that fast because here in our country it is just recently that the government allows the casino to open and the online sites to operate legally.

though i don't think that gambling should be the first to make recovery yet it will help the government to generate funds from taxation.

Hope that sooner all the businesses in france will recover as they are one of the most affected of pandemic also.
No one had been an exception into this global crisis due to pandemic and all of the countries are heavily been affected by it and this is one of the viable solutions on where
government do sees that will really give out some big help in terms or recovery aspects.

I have seen that establishments and businesses had already opened their doors and resume out their operation which is understandable.The government had already permitted them out because
it wont really be that sustainable if they would close it for too long or waiting for the vaccine or some sort.

They do need some step on surviving out this pandemic because if they dont then that would surely make the economy suffer even more.

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yeah any business related to online are now skyrocketing because people find it convinient to transact or play online now that going outside is verry complicated .

 on other countries they also excel on other online business but france is more notable because of thier gambling industry which has growned alot with the help of online gambling specifically sports .

gambling is a legit form of bussiness in general but just like any other business there are offenders which make thier business illegal  . i dont know if they do count them

interesting, didn't know about France having a big gambing industry.

indeed, many countries ban gambling and make it illegal (even though the government usually organizes lotteries and monopolize it)
here you can find some of the countries where gambling is banned:
https://www.lawyer-monthly.com/2018/02/10-countries-where-gambling-is-completely-illegal/
https://europeangaming.eu/portal/latest-news/2019/05/03/44556/the-countries-where-gambling-is-illegal/

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Just goes to show that the economy on some parts of the world are slowly getting better since the population already has some money to spare for their vices and entertainment. Also, being stuck in your house for too long with little to almost nothing to do every day, you'll really try and urge yourself to do some things that you used to do with haste once the slightest bit of a go-signal has been released by the government. However, the threat of this pandemic is not yet over even with two candidate vaccines on the horizon, so I don't think it'll be too soon before we see the gambling industry to rise up again.

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Just goes to show that the economy on some parts of the world are slowly getting better since the population already has some money to spare for their vices and entertainment. Also, being stuck in your house for too long with little to almost nothing to do every day, you'll really try and urge yourself to do some things that you used to do with haste once the slightest bit of a go-signal has been released by the government. However, the threat of this pandemic is not yet over even with two candidate vaccines on the horizon, so I don't think it'll be too soon before we see the gambling industry to rise up again.

In fact, the result of COVID to people are opposites. There are those whose jobs were lost because of it. They are now tightening the belts to make sure whatever savings left with them will see them through the rest of the pandemic lockdown days. But there are also those who saved a lot due to the pandemic lockdowns. Shopping, partying, traveling, etc are discouraged or even prohibited during this time. This made them save a good deal of money. Perhaps a portion of this saving went to gambling.
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In fact, the result of COVID to people are opposites. There are those whose jobs were lost because of it. They are now tightening the belts to make sure whatever savings left with them will see them through the rest of the pandemic lockdown days. But there are also those who saved a lot due to the pandemic lockdowns. Shopping, partying, traveling, etc are discouraged or even prohibited during this time. This made them save a good deal of money. Perhaps a portion of this saving went to gambling.

Perhaps, it could also push more productivity as most of the people will have more time at home to discover new things especially cryptocurrency. If they could be exposed to offering services through crypto, they could easily regain their income even if they lost a job due to Covid. Other people might also achieve bigger salaries which enables them to spend their spare money and time gambling. I can say, the pandemic makes it easier for people to understand that cryptocurrency and online gambling is way better than physical gambling as they could save a lot of time, and in addition, they are with their family where they can ask for advice in order to help them within their limitations.
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Just goes to show that the economy on some parts of the world are slowly getting better since the population already has some money to spare for their vices and entertainment. Also, being stuck in your house for too long with little to almost nothing to do every day, you'll really try and urge yourself to do some things that you used to do with haste once the slightest bit of a go-signal has been released by the government. However, the threat of this pandemic is not yet over even with two candidate vaccines on the horizon, so I don't think it'll be too soon before we see the gambling industry to rise up again.

In fact, the result of COVID to people are opposites. There are those whose jobs were lost because of it. They are now tightening the belts to make sure whatever savings left with them will see them through the rest of the pandemic lockdown days. But there are also those who saved a lot due to the pandemic lockdowns. Shopping, partying, traveling, etc are discouraged or even prohibited during this time. This made them save a good deal of money. Perhaps a portion of this saving went to gambling.
Few more days, France lockdown will be lifted, in that case we can see that their economy will soon gets normal again, same to their gambling activities we can say that maybe they will let that thru physical playing, France belongs to a first-world country so I think even they will let their people play outside and not virtually still they will make some extra safety measures for it, they will not allow any positive to the outbreak again.

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Online gambling are really helping the gambling companies, even some events were still available and accessible on the internet for betting purposes during the pandemic. I think this will not be only france but many parts of the world as things are becoming back to normal. With time, the gambling industry will like before and also grow higher. But as people will continue to gamble, they need not to be addicted and also be using what they can afford to lose.

This is just another sign that some countries are already recovering. People are now able to gamble and play because lots of sports have got back to normal operations again. Some employees were able to go back to their job and companies have resumed so lots of people have their capital for gambling. It's a good thing that we're all getting back to our normal lives little by little. I just hope that we could still have the right mindset when it comes to gambling.
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France really sets an example for other countries alike. I do think the countries where the gambling is open and regulated are going to recover faster as compared to the others since they are generating immense revenue for the government and at the same time the players also have a lot to choose from.


I do not understand how the French government can regulate online casinos in their country. Any campaign can open an online casino in a country that does not comply with French law and players from France will be able to play there. Of course, it is possible at the level of national providers to prohibit access to foreign gambling sites, but using VPN citizens will still be able to play there.
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it's no surprise that gambling activity in France is recovering. many people stay home and use online casinos for fun or for earning some money. I think that such situation is similar to some other european countries.

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December 02, 2020, 07:50:11 PM
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Online gambling are really helping the gambling companies, even some events were still available and accessible on the internet for betting purposes during the pandemic. I think this will not be only france but many parts of the world as things are becoming back to normal. With time, the gambling industry will like before and also grow higher. But as people will continue to gamble, they need not to be addicted and also be using what they can afford to lose.

This is just another sign that some countries are already recovering. People are now able to gamble and play because lots of sports have got back to normal operations again. Some employees were able to go back to their job and companies have resumed so lots of people have their capital for gambling. It's a good thing that we're all getting back to our normal lives little by little. I just hope that we could still have the right mindset when it comes to gambling.

Small step towards recoveries are showing now, those gambling business are able to run little by little like what you have said
those sports are now working and betting sites are capable to offer odds for gamblers to start having lots of options to bet with,
it's showing that the process for recovering are really showing the full potentials.

From here, the government can collect much better taxes to aid other businesses who are having problem surviving
due to this covid spread out, having a good sign of people gaining interest will allow this business to push further.

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December 02, 2020, 08:55:35 PM
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it's no surprise that gambling activity in France is recovering. many people stay home and use online casinos for fun or for earning some money. I think that such situation is similar to some other european countries.
For citizens that do live on first world countries then theres no doubt that they had still had some money to spend on even if they are on their own home but for those who live in 3rd world or developing countries
then this might not really be showing the same result on what we are seeing on France due to people are wise on using up their money with this pandemic.

For some countries then this would really be a viable solution into their economic problems yet most people are in their own homes which these gambling games will really be much more in demand.

One of the common way to get some taxation and some of them do even put up much higher percentage tax.It might be too much but this is one of the viable solutions
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That is a good thing to hear. Almost everything has slowly recovered, despite the pandemic situation and economic fall businessmen are still making their way to find a solution. I would like to see also offline casinos grow as well not only for online gambling. I don't think if there will have a problem if the health protocol will strictly exercise and implemented for all gamblers.

Other countries also are getting back to the business, people got to work again at it was a big help for these gambling institutions to recover.
Soon, everything will be fine and getting back to normal life that what we have before.

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December 02, 2020, 10:14:59 PM
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it's no surprise that gambling activity in France is recovering. many people stay home and use online casinos for fun or for earning some money. I think that such situation is similar to some other european countries.

Now the amount of money spent at online casinos is growing everywhere. And there's really nothing surprising here. Many people have stayed at home and they need to entertain themselves. Some people need to find new ways to make money.
The problem of excessive spending of money in online casinos is already interested in Belgium, Britain and now in France. So the authorities are looking for ways to protect their citizens from excessive losses.
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Just goes to show that the economy on some parts of the world are slowly getting better since the population already has some money to spare for their vices and entertainment. Also, being stuck in your house for too long with little to almost nothing to do every day, you'll really try and urge yourself to do some things that you used to do with haste once the slightest bit of a go-signal has been released by the government. However, the threat of this pandemic is not yet over even with two candidate vaccines on the horizon, so I don't think it'll be too soon before we see the gambling industry to rise up again.

In fact, the result of COVID to people are opposites. There are those whose jobs were lost because of it. They are now tightening the belts to make sure whatever savings left with them will see them through the rest of the pandemic lockdown days. But there are also those who saved a lot due to the pandemic lockdowns. Shopping, partying, traveling, etc are discouraged or even prohibited during this time. This made them save a good deal of money. Perhaps a portion of this saving went to gambling.
Few more days, France lockdown will be lifted, in that case we can see that their economy will soon gets normal again, same to their gambling activities we can say that maybe they will let that thru physical playing, France belongs to a first-world country so I think even they will let their people play outside and not virtually still they will make some extra safety measures for it, they will not allow any positive to the outbreak again.

I am looking forward to this particularly because there is already a vaccine. Their neighboring United Kingdom has already purchased vaccines in bulk for free inoculation to its citizens. So I think France would study the action of UK and probably decide on it very soon. Even though the vaccine is released quite faster than usual, it is still proven to be highly effective, although not 100%.

If this happens, it means France's economy will now be opened. That includes physical casinos.
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Gambling in other countries like France will definitely recover because many public places are now starting to re-open their business to get back all of their losses during the community quarantine lockdowns. I think other gamblers' gambling activity has been active, even during the pandemic, because there are still online gambling sites that they could still play and continue their gambling habit.

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Gambling in other countries like France will definitely recover because many public places are now starting to re-open their business to get back all of their losses during the community quarantine lockdowns. I think other gamblers' gambling activity has been active, even during the pandemic, because there are still online gambling sites that they could still play and continue their gambling habit.
Indeed their country is very rich, I think even they will not open their casinos still their economy will recover and rises, that's what I am seeing with France, unlike other countries they need at least years before to recover their losses and debts, I have a friend in France, last time they got thousand positive cases in just a day but now the number is decreasing , truly they are implementing their safety measures in every thing, so even though they will allow casinos to be played physically it will not causes any problem.
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I do believe that we have yet another country whose recovery from the pandemic was linked to the online gambling industry. Thus I do believe that banning gambling is something that is not the solution rather the countries should look forward to regulate them. One can always engage in responsible gambling.

Banning of gambling is not always a decision linked to economy. Rather it is a political and religious decision. That's why you will see many countries with authoritarian government banned gambling. But for these governments, votebank matters more than revenue. One prime example is India!

Gambling is always a great cash cow for those countries who have regulated it. But unfortunately, religious and political matters have barred such great source of money!

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Gambling in other countries like France will definitely recover because many public places are now starting to re-open their business to get back all of their losses during the community quarantine lockdowns. I think other gamblers' gambling activity has been active, even during the pandemic, because there are still online gambling sites that they could still play and continue their gambling habit.
Even during the lockdowns, gamblers are surely still gambling and probably some of it just adapted to online gambling since it's much safer. And I think this could be one of the reasons how it's easy for the online gambling industry to recover amidst the pandemic because they still have customers after all. And just like what you have said, they probably get more customers now as the majority of the industries are now in the recovery phase, the same with people.
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+ Revenue  =  - More losses into their citizens.

This is why you can really saw that other countries aren't really considering this kind of option and still do ban neither offline or online gambling.
They don't care about revenue or what but rather they do focus on with their citizens protection towards addiction or getting broke.

Yeah, it might be having its pro's but you cant really force them to have some re-consideration on accepting it instead.
Your response to this is going to depend on what kind of government you envision, many people see the government as a paternalistic institution that is there to help them in times of need and if that is your view I think you are not going to want governments that allows gambling so openly because you want them to take care of the people that could become addicted to it and lose all of their money, possessions and even friends and family because of it.

However if your view of the government is that it is there to guarantee your freedoms then most likely you're going to want a government that allows gambling as much as possible and that it is up to each person to decide how much they want to gamble even if sometimes they damage themselves in the process.

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December 03, 2020, 07:45:51 PM
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Gambling in other countries like France will definitely recover because many public places are now starting to re-open their business to get back all of their losses during the community quarantine lockdowns. I think other gamblers' gambling activity has been active, even during the pandemic, because there are still online gambling sites that they could still play and continue their gambling habit.

I don't think if most gambling stablishment in my local area will also be the same with France, that starting to recover. What's more visible nowadays was online gambling, unlike with physical activities that's not yet coming to normal. People is more hesitant these days in coming out for gambling, they're having fears of being contacted covid virus, so online or virtual gambling is the best and safest alternative.
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December 03, 2020, 11:13:58 PM
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I do believe that we have yet another country whose recovery from the pandemic was linked to the online gambling industry.
I believe Argentina will be among the cohntries that recover from the pandemic and economic meltdown through online gambling industry cause they are set to used online gambling site revenues to reconstruct the country.

Thus I do believe that banning gambling is something that is not the solution rather the countries should look forward to regulate them.
You are right cause gambling revenue helps the country and this is why Carolyn goodman advised casinos should be in Vegas during the total lockdown time when the pandemic was at a peak.


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Even during the lockdowns, gamblers are surely still gambling and probably some of it just adapted to online gambling since it's much safer. And I think this could be one of the reasons how it's easy for the online gambling industry to recover amidst the pandemic because they still have customers after all.

That's why I don't believe most that people don't have money during the lockdown.

Take an example in the OP's topic, France. There is a time wherein the European region becomes the hotspot of the virus but most of the countries there are noticeably having a healthy gambling activity online.

And now that other businesses are slowly rising, expect that the online gambling industry will be more bloom. And as stated in the topic, I agree that more regulation in gambling should be looked forward by a country instead of banning it completely.

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This pandemic may really drive many people to still fulfill their need to go to a casino but they can't. The only way is online gambling. So far, online gambling sites are everywhere to be accessed from around the world. I don't think that it is only the country's online gambling. But in fact, this worldwide has offered big online gambling indurtsies. moreover, this is the era of technology, supported by this pandemic situation, completed.
I believe that the development of gambling in that country says so. 

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 #74

Even during the lockdowns, gamblers are surely still gambling and probably some of it just adapted to online gambling since it's much safer. And I think this could be one of the reasons how it's easy for the online gambling industry to recover amidst the pandemic because they still have customers after all.

That's why I don't believe most that people don't have money during the lockdown.

Take an example in the OP's topic, France. There is a time wherein the European region becomes the hotspot of the virus but most of the countries there are noticeably having a healthy gambling activity online.

And now that other businesses are slowly rising, expect that the online gambling industry will be more bloom. And as stated in the topic, I agree that more regulation in gambling should be looked forward by a country instead of banning it completely.

Gamblers will always find a way how to get their money to satisfy their gambling desires.
So even if physical casinos are closed, online casinos are still booming because gamblers find it very accessible.
And those that are not oriented before with online casinos, they are now finding these online to be very easy to play with as they can play anywhere, at anytime of the day.
So why not get a revenue from this, right? At least the government is receiving something from this business that can help in their economic recovery.
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December 03, 2020, 11:59:25 PM
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This shows how people have got attached to gambling. During the pandemic everyone could've looked for opportunities and access for all their routine needs. This is what landed people on different online gambling platforms. What the industry has gained as revenue by this time period is really big. If this continues there is more chance of physical casinos getting closed. Embarrassed

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So why not get a revenue from this, right? At least the government is receiving something from this business that can help in their economic recovery.

Unfortunately, illegal online gambling activities also emerge during the pandemic. With that, the operators are making a profit without paying taxes to the government. It's useless that gambling activities bloom while the government is not getting any revenues thru tax.

That's why strict regulation is needed so that customers will only play at legit ones. And that's what they are doing after noticing the gambling industry is active even in times of pandemic.

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Maybe Gambling is a good industry in france because even in Times like this pandemic yet the gambling community is faster to recover compared to other countries in which the gambling had been fallen because of the strict policy of Health protocols.

Though In our country the casino houses are already open but with 50% capacity only and the Online gambling has been approved as well.

So basically in sooner time We will be like France that gambling business is back on track and may be resulting to extra added taxation.

Maybe Gambling is a good industry in france because even in Times like this pandemic yet the gambling community is faster to recover compared to other countries in which the gambling had been fallen because of the strict policy of Health protocols.

I never knew that gambling business were in good at France but knowing that even in the midst of pandemic gambling recovers were amazing. Every nation should consider the potential of gambling in economic development and growth.

So basically in sooner time We will be like France that gambling business is back on track and may be resulting to extra added taxation.
But while gambling industry is Blooming who is suffering are those People that has no enough Money but because there is a Gambling casino they risking the small amount they Have just to try Luck.
I think it is not the answer for them to grow the economy ,Because that only broaden the Problem,Remember that these Gambling operator bagging Money from players and those players are People of the state.
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For sure in time that vaccine may discover and people were trying to be back in normal life, hence the economic were much affected the only way to recover from the huge loss due to pandemic were through extra added of tax.

It is already discover and had just going to finality before being approved and distribute worldwide.
And another thing is if the government implement Higher taxation to these Gambling company for sure they will let the gamblers shoulder the taxes.
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No doubt that the gambling industry boosted the economy despite the pandemic where people were locked down and have nothing to do with their free time. Though everyone is aware that during those times we need to be wiser in terms of our spending but the lockdown took a few months and people begun to experienced boredom which gambling can be a good source of entertainment that could possibly bring possible outcomes or profit to a few.

The reason I am seeing that the gaming market was boosted during the third quarter because the French started to find ways in reducing boredom which may not be good for some reason but brought a positive effect on the French economy.

I guess they should not be alarmed by the increase in numbers of people who patronized gambling just because of the projected gambling activity in the 3rd quarter but on my end enhancing their regulations for the welfare of the citizen towards gambling is not bad at all.

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This shows how people have got attached to gambling. During the pandemic everyone could've looked for opportunities and access for all their routine needs. This is what landed people on different online gambling platforms. What the industry has gained as revenue by this time period is really big. If this continues there is more chance of physical casinos getting closed. Embarrassed
Maybe this pandemic can be the way for the physical casino to transform into a digital casino and spread in many countries. If that so, the physical casino will become a legend in the land-based, but a physical casino will still open in some places. While in this pandemic, people need to find entertainment in gambling, and they found that online gambling can fits what they want.

But if the physical casino could still reopen and run their business in this pandemic, and the casino can recover their losses, the casino will still have more chances to survive, even if we still face the pandemic. The gambling industry itself still grows, whether offline or online casinos, because people like to gamble with gambling games.

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December 04, 2020, 06:37:01 AM
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This shows how people have got attached to gambling. During the pandemic everyone could've looked for opportunities and access for all their routine needs. This is what landed people on different online gambling platforms. What the industry has gained as revenue by this time period is really big. If this continues there is more chance of physical casinos getting closed. Embarrassed
Physical casinos wont be closed permanently this is just temporary and you have to know that not all gamblers know how to gamble online, so technically when protocol allows physical casinos will operate again. This is a good profit for some gambling site and those who adopt the online gaming are now enjoy these kind of profits, there's still a lot of casinos that is not available online and maybe because of the government restrictions, they didn't adopt at all.
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Even during the lockdowns, gamblers are surely still gambling and probably some of it just adapted to online gambling since it's much safer. And I think this could be one of the reasons how it's easy for the online gambling industry to recover amidst the pandemic because they still have customers after all.

That's why I don't believe most that people don't have money during the lockdown.

Take an example in the OP's topic, France. There is a time wherein the European region becomes the hotspot of the virus but most of the countries there are noticeably having a healthy gambling activity online.

And now that other businesses are slowly rising, expect that the online gambling industry will be more bloom. And as stated in the topic, I agree that more regulation in gambling should be looked forward by a country instead of banning it completely.
Well, not everyone is really struggling financially to the point that they can barely survive the pandemic. This usually happens in third-world countries but probably not a common thing in France. Even if the majority are affected by the pandemic, gamblers will be gamblers. They will allot money so they can satisfy their gambling need, just like how the gambling industry in France can quickly start recovering even if we are still in a pandemic.
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I guess they should not be alarmed by the increase in numbers of people who patronized gambling just because of the projected gambling activity in the 3rd quarter but on my end enhancing their regulations for the welfare of the citizen towards gambling is not bad at all.

If people will continue to sit at home, then the flow of money into online casinos will continue to grow. However, countries are unlikely to be able to limit the losses of their citizens. It is possible to establish certain rules for casinos located in the country. However, there are many other casinos around the world that are not obliged to comply with the decisions of the government of the same France.
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December 04, 2020, 07:29:46 PM
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it's no surprise that gambling activity in France is recovering. many people stay home and use online casinos for fun or for earning some money. I think that such situation is similar to some other european countries.
It is for the entire market of online casinos.

IIRC, there's an article that I've read during the pandemic. The money that has flown through online casinos has increased and that's due to city/country lockdowns.



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December 04, 2020, 08:44:59 PM
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Isn't France one of the Countries where gambling is banned? In a couple online casinos, i did check out their Terms and conditions and France was part of the list of Countries whose Citizen were not allowed to gamble.

Generally the whole issue of banning gambling is not cool. It's like governments are trying to control how their citizens are supposed to spend the money they sweated to make.
Yes most of casino gambling games are forbidden on line, but poker and betting are allowed even if it's very regulated and restricted, platforms have to be registered with a special authority and some kind of bets are forbidden, live betting and exchange betting are not allowed for example. Big platforms have usually special version dedicated to France.

I don't have a list of countries which have a banned rules and regulations about gambling. But as i know France was one of the county which has a lot of strict rules and regulations but the mere fact that France gambling business  or online gambling were recovering then it only means that France were open minded to the potential of gambling to give them a potential income from taxes. Here in our country casino business were legally operated but due to pandemic it were temporary stop operation.
No I disagree, I don't think it has something to do with the french authorities and government, I think it's only due to gamblers betting on french platforms. French government should thank them.

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December 04, 2020, 10:28:52 PM
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This shows how people have got attached to gambling. During the pandemic everyone could've looked for opportunities and access for all their routine needs. This is what landed people on different online gambling platforms. What the industry has gained as revenue by this time period is really big. If this continues there is more chance of physical casinos getting closed. Embarrassed
Maybe this pandemic can be the way for the physical casino to transform into a digital casino and spread in many countries. If that so, the physical casino will become a legend in the land-based, but a physical casino will still open in some places. While in this pandemic, people need to find entertainment in gambling, and they found that online gambling can fits what they want.

But if the physical casino could still reopen and run their business in this pandemic, and the casino can recover their losses, the casino will still have more chances to survive, even if we still face the pandemic. The gambling industry itself still grows, whether offline or online casinos, because people like to gamble with gambling games.

It's true that this pandemic is opportunity for many casinos to transform their business. However, not everything should be online and there are still gamblers who want to play in physical casinos, feel the atmosphere and gamble on traditional way. Online casinos definitely have their advantages and I believe digital is future but we need to keep the touch with real world too and we still need to have the choice.

I'm a fan of online gambling but I do understand that there are gamblers who like a traditional way of gambling, there are many of them and some are even high rollers in a casino.

I guess if some casinos are still not open, these people might have learn an online gambling already, and this helps the online casinos to gain new customers. Also, in some of the news, we can read that regulations has been imposed to some casinos already as government really want to increase their revenue and recover from this pandemic, some even increase the taxes.

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This shows how people have got attached to gambling. During the pandemic everyone could've looked for opportunities and access for all their routine needs. This is what landed people on different online gambling platforms. What the industry has gained as revenue by this time period is really big. If this continues there is more chance of physical casinos getting closed. Embarrassed
Maybe this pandemic can be the way for the physical casino to transform into a digital casino and spread in many countries. If that so, the physical casino will become a legend in the land-based, but a physical casino will still open in some places. While in this pandemic, people need to find entertainment in gambling, and they found that online gambling can fits what they want.

But if the physical casino could still reopen and run their business in this pandemic, and the casino can recover their losses, the casino will still have more chances to survive, even if we still face the pandemic. The gambling industry itself still grows, whether offline or online casinos, because people like to gamble with gambling games.

It's true that this pandemic is opportunity for many casinos to transform their business. However, not everything should be online and there are still gamblers who want to play in physical casinos, feel the atmosphere and gamble on traditional way. Online casinos definitely have their advantages and I believe digital is future but we need to keep the touch with real world too and we still need to have the choice.
Physical casinos can consider on making up some temporary transition from physical to online one's but it wont really be that easy as it sounds since we know
that this would be an another expense into the gambling site owner and setting and developing up things wont really be taken a short amount of time which means
it will take some time and might able to miss lots of opportunities on getting some market share.

No doubt that online gambling sites are really taking advantage into this pandemic situation since not all would really be free in going to physical place.
In result then majority will be considering on playing online and its quite evident that there's really a high demand into it because
recently there are lots of gambling sites that do make out some launching online.

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December 04, 2020, 10:38:57 PM
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This shows how people have got attached to gambling. During the pandemic everyone could've looked for opportunities and access for all their routine needs. This is what landed people on different online gambling platforms. What the industry has gained as revenue by this time period is really big. If this continues there is more chance of physical casinos getting closed. Embarrassed
Maybe this pandemic can be the way for the physical casino to transform into a digital casino and spread in many countries. If that so, the physical casino will become a legend in the land-based, but a physical casino will still open in some places. While in this pandemic, people need to find entertainment in gambling, and they found that online gambling can fits what they want.

But if the physical casino could still reopen and run their business in this pandemic, and the casino can recover their losses, the casino will still have more chances to survive, even if we still face the pandemic. The gambling industry itself still grows, whether offline or online casinos, because people like to gamble with gambling games.

It's true that this pandemic is opportunity for many casinos to transform their business. However, not everything should be online and there are still gamblers who want to play in physical casinos, feel the atmosphere and gamble on traditional way. Online casinos definitely have their advantages and I believe digital is future but we need to keep the touch with real world too and we still need to have the choice.
But..  But..  But..  You know that those stats is quite contradicting. I mean when the gambling activity increased and the casino got a better profit that's clearly contradicting with the current our misery facing pandemics struggle to get income and lost to a casino? What worse than that? If it's highlighting about how there a lot of people cashing out money from casino then that's fine,  good for society to live through it but it's not the case right?

I'm pretty confused, honestly this world getting fucked up right? I already hate my own life since these stressing pandemic,  too much shit.

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December 04, 2020, 10:50:51 PM
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This shows how people have got attached to gambling. During the pandemic everyone could've looked for opportunities and access for all their routine needs. This is what landed people on different online gambling platforms. What the industry has gained as revenue by this time period is really big. If this continues there is more chance of physical casinos getting closed. Embarrassed
Maybe this pandemic can be the way for the physical casino to transform into a digital casino and spread in many countries. If that so, the physical casino will become a legend in the land-based, but a physical casino will still open in some places. While in this pandemic, people need to find entertainment in gambling, and they found that online gambling can fits what they want.

But if the physical casino could still reopen and run their business in this pandemic, and the casino can recover their losses, the casino will still have more chances to survive, even if we still face the pandemic. The gambling industry itself still grows, whether offline or online casinos, because people like to gamble with gambling games.

It's true that this pandemic is opportunity for many casinos to transform their business. However, not everything should be online and there are still gamblers who want to play in physical casinos, feel the atmosphere and gamble on traditional way. Online casinos definitely have their advantages and I believe digital is future but we need to keep the touch with real world too and we still need to have the choice.
But..  But..  But..  You know that those stats is quite contradicting. I mean when the gambling activity increased and the casino got a better profit that's clearly contradicting with the current our misery facing pandemics struggle to get income and lost to a casino? What worse than that? If it's highlighting about how there a lot of people cashing out money from casino then that's fine,  good for society to live through it but it's not the case right?



It maybe contradict on the current situation but it is what it is. This is what happened, physical casinos loses their income due to the pandemic while online casinos take that opportunity so their revenue have increase as there's no protocol when gambling online, so people choose it over physical casinos.

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I'm pretty confused, honestly this world getting fucked up right? I already hate my own life since these stressing pandemic,  too much shit.

Whatever you are going through mate, everything will be fine, you are not the only one who struggle at the moment, but this is just temporary, believe me.

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December 04, 2020, 11:12:05 PM
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It maybe contradict on the current situation but it is what it is. This is what happened, physical casinos loses their income due to the pandemic while online casinos take that opportunity so their revenue have increase as there's no protocol when gambling online, so people choose it over physical casinos.
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Whatever you are going through mate, everything will be fine, you are not the only one who struggle at the moment, but this is just temporary, believe me.

And we are already seeing the effect of these in online casinos. In this forum alone, a lot of crypto casinos were born during this pandemic and keeps on growing. I guess some of those traditional gamblers who are frequent visitors in physical casinos turn to these online casinos. There are so many benefits of using online casinos, which the major one, is you can basically play at anytime of the day at your own comfort. And gamblers will play no matter what the situation is.
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December 04, 2020, 11:20:50 PM
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It maybe contradict on the current situation but it is what it is. This is what happened, physical casinos loses their income due to the pandemic while online casinos take that opportunity so their revenue have increase as there's no protocol when gambling online, so people choose it over physical casinos.
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Whatever you are going through mate, everything will be fine, you are not the only one who struggle at the moment, but this is just temporary, believe me.

And we are already seeing the effect of these in online casinos. In this forum alone, a lot of crypto casinos were born during this pandemic and keeps on growing. I guess some of those traditional gamblers who are frequent visitors in physical casinos turn to these online casinos. There are so many benefits of using online casinos, which the major one, is you can basically play at anytime of the day at your own comfort. And gamblers will play no matter what the situation is.

And most of the  sports games also went back a little those new online gambling sites seen opportunities
and take the ride starting their own journey.

Good in the sense of there is money making business where government can take good taxes for continuous recovering
of their jurisdictions. Good give and take for both sides.

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December 05, 2020, 02:13:11 AM
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France really sets an example for other countries alike. I do think the countries where the gambling is open and regulated are going to recover faster as compared to the others since they are generating immense revenue for the government and at the same time the players also have a lot to choose from.


I'm 100% sure you are speaking about online gambling because you cannot open a physical casino at this point in time, the online gambling casinos are generating big revenues in the pandemic and not only in France but everywhere where online casinos are operating, the online gambling casinos industry has their peak at this time I agree that countries should give the industry a big hand and allow them to operate, the money that they are generating from the taxes are big supports for countries at this pandemic.
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December 05, 2020, 05:22:33 AM
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This shows how people have got attached to gambling. During the pandemic everyone could've looked for opportunities and access for all their routine needs. This is what landed people on different online gambling platforms. What the industry has gained as revenue by this time period is really big. If this continues there is more chance of physical casinos getting closed. Embarrassed
Maybe this pandemic can be the way for the physical casino to transform into a digital casino and spread in many countries. If that so, the physical casino will become a legend in the land-based, but a physical casino will still open in some places. While in this pandemic, people need to find entertainment in gambling, and they found that online gambling can fits what they want.

But if the physical casino could still reopen and run their business in this pandemic, and the casino can recover their losses, the casino will still have more chances to survive, even if we still face the pandemic. The gambling industry itself still grows, whether offline or online casinos, because people like to gamble with gambling games.

It's true that this pandemic is opportunity for many casinos to transform their business. However, not everything should be online and there are still gamblers who want to play in physical casinos, feel the atmosphere and gamble on traditional way. Online casinos definitely have their advantages and I believe digital is future but we need to keep the touch with real world too and we still need to have the choice.
I imagine if the casino has changed its casino into an online casino, it could bring another benefit to them. At the same time, they also run their casino with physical, that would be better for them because they can have each fan, whether it's an online fan and offline fan. That will make their casino bigger than the other casino. The gamblers can choose whatever they want to play gambling, and if that can happens, there will be no border for the gamblers to playing their favorite gambling games.

Besides online gambling, the physical casino owner will think that many gamblers still prefer to play on the physical casino because the gamblers want to meet other gamblers and play gambling games together.

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December 05, 2020, 08:00:21 AM
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I figure betting can assist with improving the economy. I don't have the foggiest idea whether it's lawful in France or, no, yet on the off chance that they include the public authority with the cash, at that point,t it will improve the economy as well. The government additionally needs some help to stand up and since the betting business makes a huge number of dollars they should give charges and the government make it legitimate. The government and betting industry should cooperate
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I figure betting can assist with improving the economy. I don't have the foggiest idea whether it's lawful in France or, no, yet on the off chance that they include the public authority with the cash, at that point,t it will improve the economy as well. The government additionally needs some help to stand up and since the betting business makes a huge number of dollars they should give charges and the government make it legitimate. The government and betting industry should cooperate

They should otherwise their business will face the consequences and lost all of their revenue.

What France did seems right, they are looking for any sources that could help the country's economy and to survive from big losses due to pandemic. Online gambling platforms are massively growing now globally since offline casinos are paused. Increasing in tax fees is the another option which I don't think that it was unfair, for sure it was a fair decision knowing that they also get huge revenue at this time.



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According to the french national gambling authority. The gambling in france showed 49% more gambling activity in the third quarter with a recovery which supposedly gave 1.6 billion Euro as revenue.

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France’s gambling regulator Autorité Nationale des Jeux (ANJ) announced the impressive recovery of the country’s gaming market, with 49% more betting activity during the third quarter, with €1.6 billion. Despite the pandemic, French operators have bounced back and reported a 17% increase in Q3 revenue year on year.

The ANJ reported that the online gambling turnover for the first three quarters of 2020 went up 11% compared to last year, reaching €1.2 billion.

This was actually due to :
-online Gambling related to sports events

The authorities have advised to look for steps to ensure player protection and to see if minors are playing and engaging in the same.

I do believe that we have yet another country whose recovery from the pandemic was linked to the online gambling industry. Thus I do believe that banning gambling is something that is not the solution rather the countries should look forward to regulate them. One can always engage in responsible gambling.

France really sets an example for other countries alike. I do think the countries where the gambling is open and regulated are going to recover faster as compared to the others since they are generating immense revenue for the government and at the same time the players also have a lot to choose from.


That is surely some great profit that those gambler's had by their time. It would mean that a lot of people really tend to find ways with their time instead of doing nothing at home. Their economy is still better than most countries because of their ability to uplift their current work and services provided. This means a great deal to the government since they know that they need to keep this up.

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December 05, 2020, 10:21:00 AM
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A lot of establishment are now open nowadays, we can see the good recovering of our economy with that because there is a huge tax that can have with the casino gambling, it is good in our economy but it is not good for the citizen of the country, a number of losers in gambling are greater than the numbers of winners, so basically the amount of money that has lost is greater than the reward for the winner, gambling grows with that thing. The recovery of the economy from gambling is a lost for their citizen, but not totally as is.

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December 05, 2020, 10:25:14 AM
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According to the french national gambling authority. The gambling in france showed 49% more gambling activity in the third quarter with a recovery which supposedly gave 1.6 billion Euro as revenue.

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France’s gambling regulator Autorité Nationale des Jeux (ANJ) announced the impressive recovery of the country’s gaming market, with 49% more betting activity during the third quarter, with €1.6 billion. Despite the pandemic, French operators have bounced back and reported a 17% increase in Q3 revenue year on year.

The ANJ reported that the online gambling turnover for the first three quarters of 2020 went up 11% compared to last year, reaching €1.2 billion.

This was actually due to :
-online Gambling related to sports events
This means well supportive France government to gambling businesses?rare to happen .

The authorities have advised to look for steps to ensure player protection and to see if minors are playing and engaging in the same.
This is what they must be Strict because Minors are possessive and wild ,their reactions when become addict are truly alarming.

I do believe that we have yet another country whose recovery from the pandemic was linked to the online gambling industry. Thus I do believe that banning gambling is something that is not the solution rather the countries should look forward to regulate them. One can always engage in responsible gambling.
Gambling is a form of entertainment even before our ancestors time,So banning this wont help anything but instead the implementation of laws must be at all time ensuring that all things are set and doing as what it must be.

France really sets an example for other countries alike. I do think the countries where the gambling is open and regulated are going to recover faster as compared to the others since they are generating immense revenue for the government and at the same time the players also have a lot to choose from.

Actually i didn't expect that on all countries worldwide that their gambling industry will Boom first. since they are not the typical country that always on the news in regards to gambling.









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I do not think that the French authorities should be proud of the increase in tax collections received from the gambling sector, coming to the treasury from the pockets of their own citizens. They become poorer exactly as much as the state becomes richer. In my opinion, we can be proud of some upgrades in production, an increase in revenues to the country's budget from external sources, but not from the pockets of our own citizens, especially at the height of the pandemic when people are forced to spend more time at home.

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December 05, 2020, 01:28:32 PM
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I don't know about France's policy on online gambling but it seems the gambling industry in that region is helping their government to recover what revenue they've lost because of the pandemic, and the government should show appreciation by easing up the regulation and taxes, France is one example of online gambling sites that help recovers one's economy I hope in other areas, they have the same situation.
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December 05, 2020, 02:09:56 PM
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I don't know about France's policy on online gambling but it seems the gambling industry in that region is helping their government to recover what revenue they've lost because of the pandemic, and the government should show appreciation by easing up the regulation and taxes, France is one example of online gambling sites that help recovers one's economy I hope in other areas, they have the same situation.

How is the France government benefiting from the expand of gambling industry ? Are they collecting more taxes from the gamblers and gambling business owners ? If this is the case, then gamblers will not be happy to pay extra taxes. Government should develop plans to help the economy and not impose more taxes in this pandemic period.
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December 05, 2020, 03:32:12 PM
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I do not think that the French authorities should be proud of the increase in tax collections received from the gambling sector, coming to the treasury from the pockets of their own citizens. They become poorer exactly as much as the state becomes richer. In my opinion, we can be proud of some upgrades in production, an increase in revenues to the country's budget from external sources, but not from the pockets of our own citizens, especially at the height of the pandemic when people are forced to spend more time at home.

I do not think that France is proud of such tax revenues. However, taxes are taxes. If people want to gamble, they will still play them. So let them play in French casinos and bring taxes to their country, than they will bring taxes to other countries.
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December 05, 2020, 05:12:10 PM
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I do not think that the French authorities should be proud of the increase in tax collections received from the gambling sector, coming to the treasury from the pockets of their own citizens. They become poorer exactly as much as the state becomes richer. In my opinion, we can be proud of some upgrades in production, an increase in revenues to the country's budget from external sources, but not from the pockets of our own citizens, especially at the height of the pandemic when people are forced to spend more time at home.

I do not think that France is proud of such tax revenues. However, taxes are taxes. If people want to gamble, they will still play them. So let them play in French casinos and bring taxes to their country, than they will bring taxes to other countries.
No government is going to say that they don't want such tax revenue because basically government is running from the tax money. And this is good this as well because banning will completely stop the revenue but it is not going to stop such practices.

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