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December 20, 2020, 01:14:46 PM
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pricing and availability are the key at this moment. Very hard to find anything at a decent price.

I did get a PowerColor 5700xt for 389. which is a bargain it is now listed for 590

Did you try Conflux Network mining or other algos ?
I believe we can get more than ethash with 3060ti.

I played with octopus a bit on nicehash

https://www.nicehash.com/blog/post/octopus--new-algorithm-for-mining-conflux-cfx

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December 20, 2020, 02:54:20 PM
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Assuming you can find these cards at MSRP, seven 3060 ti cards could cost approximately the same as four 3080 cards. What would you choose the 3060’s or the 3080’s and why?
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December 20, 2020, 03:38:18 PM
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Assuming you can find these cards at MSRP, seven 3060 ti cards could cost approximately the same as four 3080 cards. What would you choose the 3060’s or the 3080’s and why?

3080's if you require the density, but not everyone seems to be able to achieve the magical 100MH/s @240w and seem to settle around 90-95Mh.  Where as the 3060Ti's have no problem hitting 60MH/s @120w which seems to be the clear winner if solely mining Ethhash.
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December 20, 2020, 04:23:16 PM
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3080's if you require the density, but not everyone seems to be able to achieve the magical 100MH/s @240w and seem to settle around 90-95Mh.  Where as the 3060Ti's have no problem hitting 60MH/s @120w which seems to be the clear winner if solely mining Ethhash.

yeah and gddrx 6 gets too bloody hot too, 3060ti needs to come down in price. Where i live, shops are selling for $560 ~ $700. No way In hell, I will buy in those prices. I want to buy one to play with it.

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December 20, 2020, 04:36:10 PM
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Thanks for the input. I’m leaning towards the 3060 cards. I’ve got a rig with RX 580 4GB cards that I’m going to have to swap out soon. Seems like the smart decision would be replace with 3060’s. I would likely also have to upgrade PSUs as well if I went with the 3080 cards.
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December 20, 2020, 05:08:14 PM
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Thanks for the input. I’m leaning towards the 3060 cards. I’ve got a rig with RX 580 4GB cards that I’m going to have to swap out soon. Seems like the smart decision would be replace with 3060’s. I would likely also have to upgrade PSUs as well if I went with the 3080 cards.

rx 580 = 130 watts, 3060ti = 130 watts.

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December 21, 2020, 10:59:34 AM
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I think the 120 W power is a result of using 50 % of TDP (which is 220 to 240 for most 3060 cards). For my gaming PC I think about buying a MSI GeForce RTX 3070 Suprim X 8GB GDDR6 which has 280 w TDP. So 50 % would be 140w. I think with 140w it gets the same hashrate....but when I make TDP of 40 or 45 % to reach 120 W, do you think I might get less mhash? So a 3060 with a higher TDP than 240 is no good choice for mining? could that be correct?

Then I would buy the normal NON-Supreme variant of the 3070....if I can get one. 3070 supreme is in stock today Sad
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December 21, 2020, 11:18:47 AM
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I think the 120 W power is a result of using 50 % of TDP (which is 220 to 240 for most 3060 cards). For my gaming PC I think about buying a MSI GeForce RTX 3070 Suprim X 8GB GDDR6 which has 280 w TDP. So 50 % would be 140w. I think with 140w it gets the same hashrate....but when I make TDP of 40 or 45 % to reach 120 W, do you think I might get less mhash? So a 3060 with a higher TDP than 240 is no good choice for mining? could that be correct?

Then I would buy the normal NON-Supreme variant of the 3070....if I can get one. 3070 supreme is in stock today Sad

I bought Asus dual oc 3070, and it's hashing 61Mhs with 52% TDP, + 1099 memory oc and it's stable
The power consumption on the wall is 135 exactly (Phoenix miner shows 114w)
If I lower to 51% or less (minimum 45% TDP) I lose hashrate, so 52% for me it's the sweet spot

3060 ti is better if you'll only mine and can buy with good price, but I choose 3070 to do some gaming and the price is only 10% more of 3060ti at the moment, and it's easy to find

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December 21, 2020, 11:35:14 AM
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that´s why I too wanted to buy 3070...but I struggle with the 240 and the 280 tdp variant.
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December 21, 2020, 03:58:59 PM
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Can someone explain this acronym - TDP?  I'm not following how that plays into the card specs.

Basically, I'm getting started early next month with a pre-built rig to cut my teeth on, but then I'm looking at building an array of rigs in the coming year.  as I plan to mine and hold for long term, the math I am doing based on posted MH/s and power consumption rates, has me looking at the "watts per MH" and "cost per MH".  I don't know if these are ideal metrics to track, but if they are, and if the 3060 Ti's become available within reasonably close proximity to their MSRP, then it appears to me the 3060 Ti's are good value for my purposes. I won't ever truly know first hand until I get my hand one one or two, I'm hoping to do that early next year too and drop them into the rig I'm buying and see for myself.  I know I do not have a good handle on the information I'm seeing here about tweaking the power consumption on the boards, but I do like what I'm seeing about underclocking them a little bit to keep the heat and power down, and extend their life.  It's clear to me that this is a healthy mix of art and science to get this to work efficiently.  Clearly there's a lot more to it then just dropping cards on a board and pushing a button.  I hope I am able to pick this all up quickly. 

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Can someone explain this acronym - TDP?  I'm not following how that plays into the card specs.

Basically, I'm getting started early next month with a pre-built rig to cut my teeth on, but then I'm looking at building an array of rigs in the coming year.  as I plan to mine and hold for long term, the math I am doing based on posted MH/s and power consumption rates, has me looking at the "watts per MH" and "cost per MH".  I don't know if these are ideal metrics to track, but if they are, and if the 3060 Ti's become available within reasonably close proximity to their MSRP, then it appears to me the 3060 Ti's are good value for my purposes. I won't ever truly know first hand until I get my hand one one or two, I'm hoping to do that early next year too and drop them into the rig I'm buying and see for myself.  I know I do not have a good handle on the information I'm seeing here about tweaking the power consumption on the boards, but I do like what I'm seeing about underclocking them a little bit to keep the heat and power down, and extend their life.  It's clear to me that this is a healthy mix of art and science to get this to work efficiently.  Clearly there's a lot more to it then just dropping cards on a board and pushing a button.  I hope I am able to pick this all up quickly.  

Thermal Design Power - Ie how much power it is thermally designed to handle.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermal_design_power

And realize for your second part..its hitting a moving target.  Every calculation you make is subject to change almost immediately. 
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December 21, 2020, 04:25:18 PM
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Gotcha, thanks for the clarification on that. I'll read that wiki an see if it helps clear that up for me.

As for the moving target - yes.  I understand this.  This is why I'm focused more on how much "coin" can be mined, rather that how much "profit" can be mined.  My intent is to mine at a level that I can cover the power bill out of pocket, and not need to sell coins to pay the utilities.  I recognized that mining "profitably" will go up and down quite a bit it seems, but since I'm not planning to mine for cash flow, I feel like i will be less worried about the day to day performance of the coins, but more interested in what they will look like in 20 years.  So my focus is on economy of scale and how I can maximize my efforts without spending a ton of money (adding infrastructure for power, etc...) It's the way I think through projects at the day job, where every new level of efficiency attained is critical to the project.  Now, once I start doing this for reals next month, I may have a completely different tune, and if that ends up being the case, I will be certain to share my findings and experiences here too to help others deciding to dive in or not. 

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December 21, 2020, 04:31:12 PM
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TDP is balls to wall pedal to the metal spec for your card.

MOST cards dies if run at tdp of 100% under a year.

also you hardly get any more hash maxing to 100%
 of tdp.

here is a test rig

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this rig using a titanium psu pulls 282-285 watts

gpus are set to

1) 95 watts - Tdp is 120
2) 85 watts - Tdp is 120
3) 85 watts - Tdp is 120

that is 265 watts that is 360

setting closer to the tdp for these cards in particular does not get more hash.  So basically I don't do it.

Mining is a grind.

 Don't burn out the gear by setting to the tdp. =  "this is mostly always true"

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December 21, 2020, 04:35:03 PM
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Thanks Phil,

and these power settings are adjusted through some GUI for the cards, or through BIOS settings, or something similar?  This will be something I can learn to adjust and manage, correct? 


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December 21, 2020, 04:37:22 PM
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also, what I'm seeing here is that the mobo itself only draws about 20 watts, is that correct?  I was wondering how much the motherboards would add to the equation, seems to be that it's very small in comparison. 

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December 21, 2020, 09:21:25 PM
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is the 3080 woth it over the little 3060 ti?
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December 21, 2020, 09:55:48 PM
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is the 3080 woth it over the little 3060 ti?

It depends, 3080 average is around 92mhs, 3060ti average is 60mhs, 3080 240 watts, 3060ti 140 watts. 2 x 3080 = 3 x 3060ti.

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is the 3080 woth it over the little 3060 ti?

It depends, 3080 average is around 92mhs, 3060ti average is 60mhs, 3080 240 watts, 3060ti 140 watts. 2 x 3080 = 3 x 3060ti.

it come all down about density i guess, if you want it betterto go with the 3080 which also cost more than 50%, otherwise for small setup the 3060 ti is better
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December 22, 2020, 01:01:41 AM
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Thanks Phil,

and these power settings are adjusted through some GUI for the cards, or through BIOS settings, or something similar?  This will be something I can learn to adjust and manage, correct? 



Nvidia cards are pretty easy to manage and  tweak, you can use MSI Afterburner to do that
In 5 minutes you can adjust Nvidias, most are: reduce TDP to 60% or less, reduce Core Clock, set fans to 60% or 70% and push your memories to something like + 1000 or +1500mhz

AMDs are harder to tweak, but Nvidias you'll be able to, easy

To see about power consumption of your system, the only valid method is to have a Kill A Watt to measure power on the wall

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December 22, 2020, 04:47:34 PM
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Yes I have a Killawatt, have had it for years. Was excited to see that I "already have a piece of mining gear" LOL.  I will be using them on the rigs I build for sure.

so I'm still not sure if it's a big deal to go with a 3 fan model over a 2 fan.  I think i asked this question, but I don't see that I got a solid response.  In my mind, I'm thinking 3 fans = more electricity consumption, but better cooling, longer life of the board.  Or is all of that mitigated by backing off the gas pedal so to speak like you guys are saying - not running the GPUs at full speed...?


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