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December 04, 2020, 02:43:49 AM
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December 04, 2020, 07:16:32 AM
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is it too late to buy 30xx gpus to mine eth??  Huh
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December 04, 2020, 08:00:14 AM
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is it too late to buy 30xx gpus to mine eth??  Huh

It depends until when the bullrun will last, some say will end this year, some say it will go until the end of 2022. You need to understand that if it goes all the way to 2022 then you will have one more year of overpriced gpus everywhere, eth price hitting 5000 usd plus, that will make people bribe factories in china, overpaying by 5x everything like it happened in the end of 2017. The crash eth had in the beginning of 2018 was beautiful, that made 90% of those $800 rx 580 gpus worthless which later on, were sold for $99 or less and there were no people buying it. See my point, it all depends on the market, maybe nvidia and amd is helping to pump cryptocoins but there is a long way to go yet because mining rewards is not good at all, people here saying mining rewards are good then they have no idea what was in the end of 2017 or 2013, 3 usd per 3080 is very low to what we have seen in the end of 2017 which was around 25 usd per card, eth price needs to increase at least 10 times to be comparable to what we had in the end of 2017.

ETH price would have to increase a lot, first it has to go to 0.15 x btc at least, which would be 5x what is right now then it would have to at least drop 50% of the network difficulty right now. I would not count on either, eth 2 just launched and to get to 0.15 x btc it might happen in 2 to 3 years, I dont expect it right now, second too many hidden 8gb asics on eth network, farms in china are ready to add a lot when 4gb gpus and asics are done this December, so forget thinking difficulty will remain lower after December this year than what it is now. Even if a crash happens in the end of this year, eth 2 will bring the hype every year and with hype comes price increase, we might have a bullrun for the next 4 years, a different bullrun, sideways a lot and price increase every quarter or so during those 4 years. Probably eth might never crash like it happened in 2018, is too early to tell. Place your bets trolls hehe

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December 04, 2020, 09:29:51 AM
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Yesterday saw video test Gigabyte GPU - 63Mh at windows, pl 80%, memory +1500, 140Wt. In stock it gives about 51Mh and 200Wt. I dont know about price but seems it would be about 3070.

Do you have the source of this test?
I saw some people talking about overclocking +1500mhz on memories of new RTXs, and now with 3060ti, but is this level of overclock sustainable?
Previous generations I was able to achieve +1000Mhz with good memories (Samsung) and totally stable, more than that become a little messy, sometimes +1100 but nothing like +1500mhz...

63Mhs with 140w is not a RX 5700 killer, more efficient ok, but not so much
https://youtu.be/wnlFY2z7ol8?t=1023
It`s in russian but everything is at the screen. Now there are alot of such videos i think, but you asked about it.
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December 04, 2020, 02:50:00 PM
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I been trying to get my hands on the newer GPUs but they even harder to get hold of then a PS5

you can skip the 3060tis, it really isn't worth it. 50% higher hashrate, 50% higher power consumption and 50% more expensive than a 5600xt.
If you want to build a rig, look for cheap 5600xt (it is possible) or hunt for used ones

Your numbers are off.

my 5600ts do an average 44MH@95W, and my 3060ti does 60MH@140W. On amazon you can get the 5600xt for £280 and i got the 3060ti @ £430.
Numbers look pretty spot on to me

39 to 42 at 89 watts for my 5600xt's as cheap as 250 usd

60 to 62 at 140 watts for the 3060ti at 488 usd points to getting 5600xt

but I can not get the 5600xt for 250 usd like I did in october


https://www.bestbuy.com/site/xfx-amd-radeon-rx-5600-xt-raw-ii-pro-6gb-gddr6-pci-express-4-0-graphics-card/6398005.p?skuId=6398005

the one above is 330 x 1.07 x .87 = 308

so 488 compared to 308 is 1.58 to 1

62 to 39 = 1.58 to 1

basically a tie

if you have a 39th 5600 and get a 62 th 3060ti

it could vary but close to each one.

although an 8 card rig would be say 320 mh for the and and 480 mh for the nvidia

so space wise the nvidia makes sense.

RX 5700 XT is better than RX 5600

It used to be, but now that you can bios mod 5600xt, it is about 15-25% better than a bios modded 5700

an 8 card 3060ti would require a beefier powersupply or a second one. They are also hard to put in a compact space. Like you i have a space issue and have to stack server cases. It would stop looking for 5600xts once they come out with blower 3060ti  Grin
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December 04, 2020, 09:02:30 PM
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quick test palit dual 3060ti
63mh-130w total BPD @145W from wall
60mh-120w BPD

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December 05, 2020, 06:54:03 AM
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Are there any difference in power consumption between 3060ti vram samsung and 3060ti vram micron?
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December 05, 2020, 12:41:56 PM
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Didnt check my 3060tis for Samsung or micron. Simplemining gives 61 MH/s. Didnt check windows.
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1: Gigabyte GTX 1080 8GB
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30.44 MH/s
99 W
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2: GTX 1080 8GB
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30.67 MH/s
99 W
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December 05, 2020, 02:36:02 PM
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Had some spare time, so i took apart my gigabyte 3060ti eagle.
It is quite obvious why the temps are sub par on this card
1) no tim between memory heat spreader and heatsink
2) back plate is thick plastic and has a lip that impedes airflow.




saw this crap on my gigabyte 5700 oc as well.

After reassembling without the plastic back plate (had to use a couple of washers to attach the heatsink back on), it looks like mem oc went from +1000 to +1200.

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December 05, 2020, 02:55:10 PM
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 Shocked That model is $100 cheaper than 3 fans anyway
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December 05, 2020, 03:14:10 PM
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Had some spare time, so i took apart my gigabyte 3060ti eagle.
It is quite obvious why the temps are sub par on this card
1) no tim between memory heat spreader and heatsink
2) back plate is thick plastic and has a lip that impedes airflow.




saw this crap on my gigabyte 5700 oc as well.

After reassembling without the plastic back plate (had to use a couple of washers to attach the heatsink back on), it looks like mem oc went from +1000 to +1200.




you could mod the plate

and lay a fan on the hole you cut

these bits are up to 1.5 inch

https://www.amazon.com/DEWALT-DW1582-1-Inch-6-Inch-Spade/dp/B0001LQYHQ/ref=sr_1_3?

you know a 3d printer could make good  plates and the oem does not need to be cut

https://www.amazon.com/Dremel-Digilab-Printer-Hobbyists-Tinkerers/dp/B00NA00MWS/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?

the extra fan could mount on the card the replace meant plate could be 4 by 4





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you could mod the plate

and lay a fan on the hole you cut

these bits are up to 1.5 inch

https://www.amazon.com/DEWALT-DW1582-1-Inch-6-Inch-Spade/dp/B0001LQYHQ/ref=sr_1_3?

you know a 3d printer could make good  plates and the oem does not need to be cut

https://www.amazon.com/Dremel-Digilab-Printer-Hobbyists-Tinkerers/dp/B00NA00MWS/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?

the extra fan could mount on the card the replace meant plate could be 4 by 4






or 3d printing 120 mm PCI fan adapter  Wink
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2911846
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December 05, 2020, 03:38:06 PM
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I got one of these



https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=08G-P5-3663-KR


EVGA GeForce RTX 3060 Ti XC GAMING, 08G-P5-3663-KR, 8GB GDDR6, Dual-Fan, Metal Backplate


The mark up was okay.

 I paid 513-26=477 with shipping included.

3 months to pay it off.

Cannot get to that ROI.
At ~2usd/day for 61 mhs, I get ~8 months ROI. Without electric cost.

What am I missing?
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December 05, 2020, 04:02:15 PM
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I just removed the whole back plate  Grin that way i can always put it back together.

At least the thermal pad completely covers the ram unlike the msi rx5700 mech.

Dont have any spare 1mm pads so didnt replace the original ones. Without temperature measurements im not sure if it is worthwhile anyway
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I got one of these



https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=08G-P5-3663-KR


EVGA GeForce RTX 3060 Ti XC GAMING, 08G-P5-3663-KR, 8GB GDDR6, Dual-Fan, Metal Backplate


The mark up was okay.

 I paid 513-26=477 with shipping included.

3 months to pay it off.

Cannot get to that ROI.
At ~2usd/day for 61 mhs, I get ~8 months ROI. Without electric cost.

What am I missing?

Sorry three months to pay my credit card company off and a 5% discount on the 513 purchase.

so 487 net price as  i subtracted wrong above and said 477.

so 487 after the cc discount and 90 days to pay the cc at no extra cost.

So for roi no one knows that.

I operate a bit differently than many miners.

I have gpus ,cpus,btc asics,ltc asics.

I have 1.4 ph of btc miners all paid off.
I have 10gh of ltc miners all paid off.
I around 60 gpus about 1600 usd owed. All on 90 day promos with no interest fees.

The gpus have temporary free power until end of the year.

So it is more complex to describe.  

Jan 1 all the gear above will be paid off. As I will prepay the 90  day promos this year for taxes.


At this point all gear will be paid.

I will get 25% of what it all earns. plus own it.

So explaining pay back or roi for me is complex.
 but explaining paying off the card via credit card promo is easy enoguh.

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December 06, 2020, 08:20:17 AM
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is it too late to buy 30xx gpus to mine eth??  Huh

It depends until when the bullrun will last, some say will end this year, some say it will go until the end of 2022. You need to understand that if it goes all the way to 2022 then you will have one more year of overpriced gpus everywhere, eth price hitting 5000 usd plus, that will make people bribe factories in china, overpaying by 5x everything like it happened in the end of 2017. The crash eth had in the beginning of 2018 was beautiful, that made 90% of those $800 rx 580 gpus worthless which later on, were sold for $99 or less and there were no people buying it. See my point, it all depends on the market, maybe nvidia and amd is helping to pump cryptocoins but there is a long way to go yet because mining rewards is not good at all, people here saying mining rewards are good then they have no idea what was in the end of 2017 or 2013, 3 usd per 3080 is very low to what we have seen in the end of 2017 which was around 25 usd per card, eth price needs to increase at least 10 times to be comparable to what we had in the end of 2017.

ETH price would have to increase a lot, first it has to go to 0.15 x btc at least, which would be 5x what is right now then it would have to at least drop 50% of the network difficulty right now. I would not count on either, eth 2 just launched and to get to 0.15 x btc it might happen in 2 to 3 years, I dont expect it right now, second too many hidden 8gb asics on eth network, farms in china are ready to add a lot when 4gb gpus and asics are done this December, so forget thinking difficulty will remain lower after December this year than what it is now. Even if a crash happens in the end of this year, eth 2 will bring the hype every year and with hype comes price increase, we might have a bullrun for the next 4 years, a different bullrun, sideways a lot and price increase every quarter or so during those 4 years. Probably eth might never crash like it happened in 2018, is too early to tell. Place your bets trolls hehe


thank you for the explantation. Do you advice to buy and hold eth instead of mining it?
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thank you for the explantation. Do you advice to buy and hold eth instead of mining it?

My advice is, if you can get gpus for msrp price then buy gpus at moment if not then buy coins, buying 3080 for 1200 usd is like buying eth for $1200 at moment. There will be no point buying eth once it reaches $1200 or higher as the risk increases.

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thank you for the explantation. Do you advice to buy and hold eth instead of mining it?

My advice is, if you can get gpus for msrp price then buy gpus at moment if not then buy coins, buying 3080 for 1200 usd is like buying eth for $1200 at moment. There will be no point buying eth once it reaches $1200 or higher as the risk increases.

pretty much matches my advice.

do not overpay more than 10% on a card OEM poem price.  edit due to sp ck
a 400 usd 3060ti is  worth no more than 440-460 usd

a 769 usd 3080ti is worth no more than 850-860 usd

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I got one of these



https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=08G-P5-3663-KR


EVGA GeForce RTX 3060 Ti XC GAMING, 08G-P5-3663-KR, 8GB GDDR6, Dual-Fan, Metal Backplate


The mark up was okay.

 I paid 513-26=477 with shipping included.

3 months to pay it off.

Cannot get to that ROI.
At ~2usd/day for 61 mhs, I get ~8 months ROI. Without electric cost.

What am I missing?

Sorry three months to pay my credit card company off and a 5% discount on the 513 purchase.

so 487 net price as  i subtracted wrong above and said 477.

so 487 after the cc discount and 90 days to pay the cc at no extra cost.

So for roi no one knows that.

I operate a bit differently than many miners.

I have gpus ,cpus,btc asics,ltc asics.

I have 1.4 ph of btc miners all paid off.
I have 10gh of ltc miners all paid off.
I around 60 gpus about 1600 usd owed. All on 90 day promos with no interest fees.

The gpus have temporary free power until end of the year.

So it is more complex to describe.  

Jan 1 all the gear above will be paid off. As I will prepay the 90  day promos this year for taxes.


At this point all gear will be paid.

I will get 25% of what it all earns. plus own it.

So explaining pay back or roi for me is complex.
 but explaining paying off the card via credit card promo is easy enoguh.

Thanks, now is clear. For a regular miner the ROI is a little bit longer at current gpu prices while having 1 usd/day for ~30mhs.
I hope Santa will give you/us a nice gift by boosting eth prices Smiley)
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