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December 07, 2020, 01:12:41 AM
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Which leads me to the question, are there any reputable bitcoin sports betting exchange sites? And will they suspend/restrict my account too if I profit too much although they won't be affected by my winnings so logically they shouldn't care about it. In fact, since the pool and liqudity get bigger they should even support it. So, is it really the same case with bitcoin exchange sites too so that I should give up betting if I plan on winning in the end?

There are a lot of reputable bitcoin sports betting exchange sites and they are and they are of the majority here, you just have to spend some time to research their reputation and see if it suits your preference, you are not really that good to win all the time and take down the whole gambling site, if you are playing in a big and reputable gambling site, you can win a big amount and cash it out.
I have seen big winnings cashed out, they will not suspend or restrict your account as long as you are playing fair, and they should be happy that the players able to cash out a big amount, it's a good promotional too.

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December 07, 2020, 01:22:58 AM
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From my experience if you do keep winning most of the time the worst punishment the bookies would give to you is a very small limit to discourage you from playing in their site. Bookies do it because they know only a few gamblers could profit in the long term and as tykiwanuka mentioned it holds them back from making more money.

This makes sense to me. It lets me think about the idea that if one account makes 2-3 big withdrawals is in risk of his account being suspended/checked. Do you really think that i have to change the platform after i make some big withdrawals avoiding all breacking-head, or maybe just using the same platform after changing all stuff (device,account,ip,addresses) ?
No, making a big withdrawal won't risk your account from getting suspended unless you're new to that site and those withdrawals would quickly put you at a big profit. Also it depends on how big are these withdrawals.


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December 07, 2020, 01:39:24 AM
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Which leads me to the question, are there any reputable bitcoin sports betting exchange sites? And will they suspend/restrict my account too if I profit too much although they won't be affected by my winnings so logically they shouldn't care about it. In fact, since the pool and liqudity get bigger they should even support it. So, is it really the same case with bitcoin exchange sites too so that I should give up betting if I plan on winning in the end?

There are a lot of reputable bitcoin sports betting exchange sites and they are and they are of the majority here, you just have to spend some time to research their reputation and see if it suits your preference, you are not really that good to win all the time and take down the whole gambling site, if you are playing in a big and reputable gambling site, you can win a big amount and cash it out.
I have seen big winnings cashed out, they will not suspend or restrict your account as long as you are playing fair, and they should be happy that the players able to cash out a big amount, it's a good promotional too.

So far I've only seen Fairlay and Exbet. Exbet has very little liquidty. Fairlay's decent but I think there's a conflict of interest there too. I read a post somewhere else about Smarkets and I think it may apply to Fairplay also. Here's a part of it.

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It seems much of it stems from their use of market-makers who either work for Smarkets or work on their behalf who provide (artificial) liquidity to the exchange. So that when you are betting there, chances are you aren't betting with other customers but with Smarkets themselves. This of course creates a conflict of interest between the exchange and their customers, because you are betting directly against the exchange.

I've only been using them a short while but already I've witnessed their tricks, just because I have the audacity to win off them. Some of the tricks they do include:
(1) They use their liquidity providers to mimic Betfair prices. So you're not betting with other customers but with the exchange directly, which is a similar situation as with a regular bookmaker. Sometimes you can bust their risk limits, and you get the ridiculous and pathetic situation of what appears to be a liquid market with loads of participants turning into an empty market with about 5 orders. A high proportion of their revenue now comes from proprietary trading and I know they're recruited a lot of people into that area.

So far I'm testing Fairlay but it feels like their liqudity is artificial (provided by their guys) and eventually there'll be a conflict of interest between me and them if I profit consistently.

Any bitcoin exchanges besides Fairlay or do you think their liqudity is 100% natural?
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December 07, 2020, 01:44:46 AM
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It will undergo investigation. Let's not be stupid, winning all the time is completely possible BUT it is susceptible to being doubted, not just by the bookmakers but also by other fellow gamblers. It isn't going to immediately be restricted, but you would be required to undergo questioning from them, which again, isn't odd. They're just making sure everything is fine and dandy. Yes I know it feels stupid, but losing all the time is more understandable than winning all the time.

As for bookies, try out Fairlay. It's one of the few ones I've ever used. Haven't had many issues, though I've never really used it that much. Maybe once in a while when I feel like it.

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December 07, 2020, 02:08:07 AM
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If you win in the long run, of course the bookmakers don't like that and will definitely check your account. Bookmakers will find
your mistake, which will be used as an excuse to suspend your account. If you are proven not to violate the rules, your account
can still be used, but still under surveillance. Then you will be asked for KYC verification when you withdraw the profit you get.

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December 07, 2020, 02:23:42 AM
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If such sportsbook exist, you can think they are scammers.

They might limit the maximum bet they'll accept but they will not scam you even if you are wining. It's expected that there are some people who makes money in gambling, especially in sports betting but as long as gambling sites stays profitable, they can accommodate the winners.

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December 07, 2020, 02:32:02 AM
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If such sportsbook exist, you can think they are scammers.

They might limit the maximum bet they'll accept but they will not scam you even if you are wining. It's expected that there are some people who makes money in gambling, especially in sports betting but as long as gambling sites stays profitable, they can accommodate the winners.

Most of the bookmakers limiting the accounts with frequent winning and shady activities. They do this to protect themselves. They have the right to do it because they will lose there business once this kind of players take there profit in the long run. The purpose of bookmakers is to get profit from players and not giving away money to them. So they will just remove the smart player and retain the average players. This is how business work.

But suspending account while the balance is trap was a different story. They should atleast let them withdraw the funds and lock the account.

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December 07, 2020, 02:39:00 AM
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You must be coming from somewhere. If you may, please share your particular experience which somehow made you think that sports betting sites will suspend or restrict your account if you made a nice profit in the long term. Is it a crypto sports betting site in the first place? Or was there no explanation whatsoever why it was done? Was there not a single violation on your part? Did you reach out to the site's support?

After years of sports betting, I haven't encountered a single instance in which my account is suspended or locked. I'm not saying I've made a huge amount of profit but there was also a time when I made some significant amount from betting.

Perhaps this tip will help: avoid treating your betting site wallet as a storage place. If you already accumulated a huge amount in your betting site wallet after winning a lot of bets, withdraw the amount. Only leave an amount you wish to spend on betting.

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December 07, 2020, 03:41:03 AM
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If such sportsbook exist, you can think they are scammers.

They might limit the maximum bet they'll accept but they will not scam you even if you are wining. It's expected that there are some people who makes money in gambling, especially in sports betting but as long as gambling sites stays profitable, they can accommodate the winners.
If the OP does win big amounts of money over time, I think that it will raise some eyebrows for the casino because they can't profit from him/her. I do not reputable sites will just lock your account out of nowhere but the scummy thing about locking is that they do not explain the reason behind and most of the replies from them are soulless and repetitive like they do not want to help the player, if they can change that aspect of things then it will probably change my mind.

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December 07, 2020, 04:56:34 AM
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If you win in the long run, of course the bookmakers don't like that and will definitely check your account. Bookmakers will find
your mistake, which will be used as an excuse to suspend your account. If you are proven not to violate the rules, your account
can still be used, but still under surveillance. Then you will be asked for KYC verification when you withdraw the profit you get.

Common action by the game house, they'll gonna keep an eye with our account as they are suspecting unrealistic game results that you
are getting each time you use their platform.

Most of the time, if you are using huge amount of money to bet this suspicious act will triggered to freeze your account, asking you for
more in-depth information and keep monitoring your account.

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December 07, 2020, 05:31:15 AM
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This is something I don't get. If these bookmakers are going to suspend or restrict my account in the case of profiting too much, why should I even bother with sports betting in the first place? What's the point? Having fun while losing money?

Which leads me to the question, are there any reputable bitcoin sports betting exchange sites? And will they suspend/restrict my account too if I profit too much although they won't be affected by my winnings so logically they shouldn't care about it. In fact, since the pool and liqudity get bigger they should even support it. So, is it really the same case with bitcoin exchange sites too so that I should give up betting if I plan on winning in the end?
For what I have seen in fiat casinos you are unlikely to get banned but you are bound to get your account limited, you will find on their terms and conditions they offer their services for recreational gamblers and not for professionals so while you have done nothing wrong they give themselves an out in the case a professional gambler creates an account with them and most likely something similar happens with cryptocurrency casinos and while it is understandable your disgust with the situation casinos can do whatever they want with their platform.
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December 07, 2020, 07:17:58 AM
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I guess so Grin

They don't like to see gamblers can win much money from their site. They will try to check your account and find your mistake so that they can suspend or restrict your account. But if they can not get something wrong from what you did before, they will not do anything, but your account will still under watch by them.
Will depend on what casino it is, there are casino who really requires KYC if it reaches some amount that needs to provide verifications to a oil AML. If plans to make money grow in gambling and no plans of withdrawing it until the amount reach better be ready in KYC as well make sure you're playing in too or known casinos who are not willing to risk their casino to find fault in any transactions.

Yeah, you're right. We don't have to wait to see the money grow in gambling because it will need longer to see it happen. It is better to withdraw the minimum amount and try to save more money if we win. By doing that, I think we can prevent KYC, and we can withdraw again without doing KYC. That can minimize the risk of using bigger money to gamble because the money is already withdrawn.

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December 07, 2020, 08:36:29 AM
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The good thing with gambling in cryptocurrencies like Bitcoins is :- If they do that just make a new account and get started again until and unless they think about closing it, keep withdrawing the funds on time since you never know when they would even freeze that.
wouldn't that just be multi-accounting and would most likely break one of their ToS, resulting in the user being banned and losing his moner or all the chance of playing in that bookmaker if found guilty of multi-accounting.

I do believe you have to understand that this happens in casinos too, they filter out the good players and ask them to leave , no one wants to have a guy on winning spree in their casino 😂 , this is natural , they are just scared of those people and might think that those people are using some underhanded methods to do that. Therefore they do believe that they might have to look into it, make the game harder , make sure they don't loose a lot ...this is quite normal.
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it's true that this is also happening on casinos but as far as I know, they do not confiscate your winnings unlike on some online casino that would abuse their ToS to ban, restrict or suspend your account in order not to lose money.

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December 07, 2020, 09:13:51 AM
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I guess so Grin

They don't like to see gamblers can win much money from their site. They will try to check your account and find your mistake so that they can suspend or restrict your account. But if they can not get something wrong from what you did before, they will not do anything, but your account will still under watch by them.
Will depend on what casino it is, there are casino who really requires KYC if it reaches some amount that needs to provide verifications to a oil AML. If plans to make money grow in gambling and no plans of withdrawing it until the amount reach better be ready in KYC as well make sure you're playing in too or known casinos who are not willing to risk their casino to find fault in any transactions.

Yeah, you're right. We don't have to wait to see the money grow in gambling because it will need longer to see it happen. It is better to withdraw the minimum amount and try to save more money if we win. By doing that, I think we can prevent KYC, and we can withdraw again without doing KYC. That can minimize the risk of using bigger money to gamble because the money is already withdrawn.

it wont take long if you can win easily . not withdrawing small amounts verry often can also make you save lots of fees , thats what i did i just withdrew one time because the gambling site where i play demands a big withdrawal fee but i dont recomend it for people that have a gambling issue because they can loose what they can save 

and most importantly if your a gambler that are not willing to do a kyc because money can get trap inside a gambling site .
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December 07, 2020, 10:22:01 AM
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My guess is that they don't expect people to win (or win consistently) with skills/strategy that work. If your winnings are significant and don't look like luck they will probably suspect you are outsmarting them illegally(and maybe legally) and would try to figure out what happened before handing the win to you or allowing you to continue. If what you did to win are legal or within the rules and they still don't want you anymore then it's likely they are just scared your bets will affect them badly.
I suspect this also happen in physical betting centers, this is why I tend to think it's better to bet different places if you are always profitable or have strategies that will likely guarantee you victory.

So, maybe try betting in different places and always try to be discreet and considerate to betting sites if you have working strategies no one else has (or very few have).
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December 07, 2020, 11:25:39 AM
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None of the legit bookie, gambling site would restrict your account for winning. Misusing bonuses and offers are another topic and they would ban you for that. Anything that goes against their terms could lead to suspension of your account. Some of the casinos even let you play with a VPN and suspend you if you try to withdraw. And as you are not abiding by term, you can't win against them. If you are abiding by terms, no legit bookie can restrict you and your wins.
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December 07, 2020, 11:27:05 AM
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They got all the answers for you.
All I can say is you try cryptocurrency betting first with a reputable gambling site.
The problem that I see is because you played with fiat currency before which truthfully is always with limited money only.

But since you are going to start with cryptocurrencies now, there won't be much of a problem unless you are really a big whale.  Grin
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December 07, 2020, 11:37:54 AM
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This is something I don't get. If these bookmakers are going to suspend or restrict my account in the case of profiting too much, why should I even bother with sports betting in the first place? What's the point? Having fun while losing money?

Which leads me to the question, are there any reputable bitcoin sports betting exchange sites? And will they suspend/restrict my account too if I profit too much although they won't be affected by my winnings so logically they shouldn't care about it. In fact, since the pool and liqudity get bigger they should even support it. So, is it really the same case with bitcoin exchange sites too so that I should give up betting if I plan on winning in the end?
You're probably reading too much about those negative thoughts/reviews about sports betting sites may it be about suspending or locking the funds surely there are reasons behind that. Try to read sports betting sites articles that are proven reputed and established in the  industry they are everywhere and even here I probably you can find one, I recommend BTCGosu site for the reviews of those reputed ones.

I don't think that a site will restrict you if you're winning too much and if you're that doubtful try not stay your balance in a gambling withdraw it as long as you're done. More than that you should read the terms and conditions of the site first before you play on them surely you could read there what are do's and don'ts rather than complaining a lot when you haven't yet started or trying but yeah a good thing for a beginner to ask but I suggest better reading first as always.
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December 07, 2020, 05:59:08 PM
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There are a lot of gambling sites in this forum and AFAIK they are all legit, you might try one of these sites. Pretty much they won't put any restrictions on your account unless you failed to follow one of their rules.

It appears to me that you frequently win in your gambling activity and the mere fact that any gambling site would recognize you are getting profitable then they will tend to kick you out for you might be the reason for their bankruptcy lol. Kidding aside, any gambling platforms will intend to lose the player who appears to be a frequent winner not just because of negative suspicions instead they are losing profit for players like you do.

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This is something I don't get. If these bookmakers are going to suspend or restrict my account in the case of profiting too much, why should I even bother with sports betting in the first place? What's the point? Having fun while losing money?

Which leads me to the question, are there any reputable bitcoin sports betting exchange sites? And will they suspend/restrict my account too if I profit too much although they won't be affected by my winnings so logically they shouldn't care about it. In fact, since the pool and liqudity get bigger they should even support it. So, is it really the same case with bitcoin exchange sites too so that I should give up betting if I plan on winning in the end?

In my country (italy) there is a monopole about betting so you can play just in authorized merchant.
It can sound good (merchants must be checked before) but in reality has distorted the market since a bookmaker could void your account without real reason ("suspect) or they can just change the betting size limit, deposit or withdrawal.
The real problem arise with T&C. You must accept to use a site. These type of agreements are not designed to support a player....

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