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December 12, 2020, 12:19:44 PM
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Hello everyone.

I see you are made a big steps in digitalization and decentralizing a lot of aspects of our lives for a last twenty years. I think our community will be ready for next step soon. So, I am here to explain what we will/must do in a next ten years.

It's not easy step. But we hope you all help me with this. For what? Politcal and economical situation in the world is almost critical. Any case like corona or local or global war - a big problem for a lot people in the world. Bitcoin was the first and nice step to solve all the problems. But, as you can see - govs are not met it warmly. Even when they make some steps to integrate blockchain in our lifes, they make ten steps back to deface it and make impossible more broader integration. It's absolutely normal for XXI century. The only thing lacking is the burning of heretics.

In a next five years, we will finish the beta of our new world. I know. It sounds pretentious. But it's a solution, which will allow to pay tax to your city, which will be distributed between police, medics, teachers..., do a legal business, control local and global economics, control resources and services allocation etc... It's a completely new blockchain use, when every single person can get a job, medical service, salary...

Of course our politics, chancellors, kings, presidents will try to deface new technology again. But they will not be able to confront the desire of everyone to directly control their own lives, cities where do they live...

Blockchain Digitalism epoch officially begins at 2025th.

Who am I? It does not matters. I am one from our team, who is happy to say that we finished the concept and have started to work on application. Maybe even I not the best candidate to say this (I'm not pretty well with ENG), but I am here. And we are already working. By the years our team got a very cool specialists in economic, politic, programming and other... I will (maybe someone other of our team) return directly in this thread on a Sat, 25th December 2021, and will let you know about our progress.

Keep in mind.
1. We will not run any ICO/ITO... other shit.
2. We will not run any website, service, application.
3. We will not give any interview.
4. As a result of our work, it will be just an public repository link here.

So what to do?
1. Just wait.
2. Then use it.

That's it?
1. We have all resources needs.
2. It will be done 100% in any case.

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December 12, 2020, 03:58:38 PM
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Sounds good idea for transparency purposes but Its a bit unrealistic since your goal is to force government to use your product for tax distribution and you know how the government hate transparency especially on Congress where this project will be judge. Lots of politicians has some hidden agenda that's why they are in there respective positions. I don't know if the law suggesting to use this kind of system for tax distribution will be approved by politicians that benefiting on the tax.

But Goodluck, No one knows the future so keep it up. Your idea is solid.

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December 12, 2020, 06:18:13 PM
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Blockchain Digitalism epoch officially begins at 2025th.

Quoting to prove you were the first to use this term. 

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December 12, 2020, 09:45:00 PM
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But it's a solution, which will allow to pay tax to your city, which will be distributed between police, medics, teachers..., do a legal business, control local and global economics, control resources and services allocation etc... It's a completely new blockchain use, when every single person can get a job, medical service, salary...

From paying taxes and even getting a job? This sounds like a big project that involves a lot of connections from multiple industries including the government from which I highly doubt will work. What I mean about that is before you make this "solution" have you even given a green light from governments that they will be using your project as a mode for their citizens to pay taxes? Because if not your project will be going nowhere because if no one will be part of it yet then your project is basically useless. The same goes for finding a job or paying a salary have you contacted companies about your project and has given you the "yes" that they will be using it? For teasers like this I think you must give a detailed info on what you will be doing exactly and who are part of it since you are being to vague with the information you are giving.

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December 13, 2020, 12:29:56 PM
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Hello everyone.

I see you are made a big steps in digitalization and decentralizing a lot of aspects of our lives for a last twenty years. I think our community will be ready for next step soon. So, I am here to explain what we will/must do in a next ten years.

It's not easy step. But we hope you all help me with this. For what? Politcal and economical situation in the world is almost critical. Any case like corona or local or global war - a big problem for a lot people in the world. Bitcoin was the first and nice step to solve all the problems. But, as you can see - govs are not met it warmly. Even when they make some steps to integrate blockchain in our lifes, they make ten steps back to deface it and make impossible more broader integration. It's absolutely normal for XXI century. The only thing lacking is the burning of heretics.

In a next five years, we will finish the beta of our new world. I know. It sounds pretentious. But it's a solution, which will allow to pay tax to your city, which will be distributed between police, medics, teachers..., do a legal business, control local and global economics, control resources and services allocation etc... It's a completely new blockchain use, when every single person can get a job, medical service, salary...

Of course our politics, chancellors, kings, presidents will try to deface new technology again. But they will not be able to confront the desire of everyone to directly control their own lives, cities where do they live...

Blockchain Digitalism epoch officially begins at 2025th.

Who am I? It does not matters. I am one from our team, who is happy to say that we finished the concept and have started to work on application. Maybe even I not the best candidate to say this (I'm not pretty well with ENG), but I am here. And we are already working. By the years our team got a very cool specialists in economic, politic, programming and other... I will (maybe someone other of our team) return directly in this thread on a Sat, 25th December 2021, and will let you know about our progress.

Keep in mind.
1. We will not run any ICO/ITO... other shit.
2. We will not run any website, service, application.
3. We will not give any interview.
4. As a result of our work, it will be just an public repository link here.

So what to do?
1. Just wait.
2. Then use it.

That's it?
1. We have all resources needs.
2. It will be done 100% in any case.
3. But If you want support us - ok:
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This was the first time I heard here the word " Blockchain Digitalism" very deep for me Cheesy
But anyway, I don't know really what's your purpose here in posting this topic. Moreover, it seems that you are giving us here
an early awareness about your future projects. Something like that the Big one huh? Since you already started about your future projects
why you didn't give at least a brief source about your company? and one more thing no one will give a support too to you due to there is no other source link about your business as well, besides it will be 1 year before your business reveals its name.
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December 13, 2020, 02:30:15 PM
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Wow, that is one quite promising project if it is developed well in this world. A new blockchain that will shape the world, will help others. What a project, even though it is a large project, I hope it will be developed in the said year. Hopes for us in the blockchain community

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But it's a solution, which will allow to pay tax to your city, which will be distributed between police, medics, teachers..., do a legal business, control local and global economics, control resources and services allocation etc... It's a completely new blockchain use, when every single person can get a job, medical service, salary...

From paying taxes and even getting a job? This sounds like a big project that involves a lot of connections from multiple industries including the government from which I highly doubt will work. What I mean about that is before you make this "solution" have you even given a green light from governments that they will be using your project as a mode for their citizens to pay taxes? Because if not your project will be going nowhere because if no one will be part of it yet then your project is basically useless. The same goes for finding a job or paying a salary have you contacted companies about your project and has given you the "yes" that they will be using it? For teasers like this I think you must give a detailed info on what you will be doing exactly and who are part of it since you are being to vague with the information you are giving.

Ah, no worry about goverments. No worry about wars.


Really. The purpose of our visit here is to popularize an uncreated technology that no one knows about. Well, let's dive a little deeper.

The only government of our time is companies large and small. They give you work, money, products, services ... you are already self-sufficient. The government only parasitizes and very poorly regulates the economic structure that has evolved over the past thousand years. And now - faster than ever.

Laws, rules and penalties have evolved too. But let the people decide for themselves whether they need a police department in a city of 50 townspeople in the forests of Alaska! Or it makes sense to spend extra money on health care and road construction. The principles of our project are very similar to the local laws of some states and countries. But our project has the ability to adapt to any human needs.

Our project is the beginning of the stone age of blockchain digitalism. This is the backbone of the basics. Over time, people themselves will understand how to apply an already existing instrument within the framework of the law, or without it. We are not talking about destroying countries, we are talking about breaking them up into small and self-sufficient parts of a single whole, for which it is more profitable to exchange services and products than to fight. Our project can be almost completely integrated into the framework of existing political systems. But the government will have to abandon the pursuit of power, easy money and deception of its citizens, imperialism and wars. Any conflicts will incur huge economic and diplomatic losses to the participants themselves. Any benefit from a military victory will be destroyed by 1000% by the project itself. Our project will fight the imperialists itself. Ultimately, there will be a handful of opponents of the project, isolated and powerless against the unified world government in the person of each of us. Just watch.

As for the smaller details, imagine that every employee of the company, every company, medical institution and their employees, the city's police department and their employees, teachers, schools, cleaners, fire inspectors, schoolchildren and absolutely every citizen of your city, have founded a company. When a school hires a teacher, our project will create a smart contract on transparent terms. Teacher is a contractor company providing educational services for children. The school is a company that hires a contractor to perform the work.

Each company (participant) of the platform can provide resources and services in exchange for payment or resources. Resource exchange - not taxable. Any purchase is a contract for the exchange of resources or services for payment. Each company (participant) - independently chooses the cost of its services. And if you need to clean up garbage on your street every day, you conclude a smart contract with a company that provides such services. If medical care in your city is important to you, sign a smart contract with a hospital that asks for 1% of your income in taxes. If you have a lot of stray dogs in the area, sign a smart contract and donate $ 10 monthly for its maintenance.

The tax system as it stands is a piggy bank that can only be used when your government breaks it. And children with cancer TODAY will not be treated for the money provided by the government, if they were not sick in the PREVIOUS year. This is not only stupid, but also partially slows down the economy, which is starting to fever more often due to its heterogeneous structure.

I don't say a lot, because to tell everything is several volumes of books. We have been working on this concept for the last 6 years. And this will not be a utopia. And the first successful regions that made the decision to evolve will regret their decision for several years. As I said - the stone age of blockchain digitalism, which will very quickly be replaced by a golden one.

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December 13, 2020, 07:14:57 PM
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Ah, no worry about goverments. No worry about wars.

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I think he has a point here though remember that when you are creating a system where you include other parties I think you should have the permission to do so because if you don't you are just creating a project that has no use just like what he said. So bottomline is it matters on who is involve and if they allowed you already to use it.
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Sounds like a very cool concept, if this will really help and help us cut the strings from centralisation then go for it. Looks like this is project that could change the world we live in, but it will be a long battle since governments is too allergic to unregulated things.
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Sounds like a very cool concept, if this will really help and help us cut the strings from centralisation then go for it. Looks like this is project that could change the world we live in, but it will be a long battle since governments is too allergic to unregulated things.

Tbh I don't know where this guy is going because on his OP he said that he is developing a project involving the payment of taxes to the government. Now in his last reply it sounds like the government is one of the problems we are facing right now which I really don't understand, are they working with them or are they against them? The reply itself is to vague to get anything out of it because he is involving a lot of parties from jobs, companies, to even the government in which the project itself is too big but the information he is giving is not sufficient.
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December 15, 2020, 03:46:44 PM
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Is this a project idea or a dream? I see a lot of construction sentences but there is no real proof of the project and what you can do.
Instead of creating a long thread, link to that project and present the main ideas in the form of diagrams and you will find more interaction.

The future can solve problems and make people's lives easier, not change government ideas.

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December 19, 2020, 10:00:23 PM
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Hello everyone.

I see you are made a big steps in digitalization and decentralizing a lot of aspects of our lives for a last twenty years. I think our community will be ready for next step soon.
Bitcoin which is the father of all cryptocurrency is just 11years now not twenty years and the big steps you are talking of was made by the whole crypto communities.
 

Bitcoin was the first and nice step to solve all the problems. But, as you can see - govs are not met it warmly. Even when they make some steps to integrate blockchain in our lifes, they make ten steps back to deface it and make impossible more broader integration. It's absolutely normal for XXI century. The only thing lacking is the burning of heretics.
We shouldnt expect nothing less from the government because they will never support decentralization system and thats the reason they always say something negative about Bitcoin but later said Bitcoin the true liberty people need when the leave the office.


Of course our politics, chancellors, kings, presidents will try to deface new technology again. But they will not be able to confront the desire of everyone to directly control their own lives, cities where do they live...
Thats the reason why they are unable to bring Bitcoin down and I hope bond between the crypto community will be more stronger in the future cause the institution that just join the scheme can do anything that will harm the market later.
 
Who am I? It does not matters. I am one from our team, who is happy to say that we finished the concept and have started to work on application. Maybe even I not the best candidate to say this (I'm not pretty well with ENG), but I am here. And we are already working. By the years our team got a very cool specialists in economic, politic, programming and other... I will (maybe someone other of our team) return directly in this thread on a Sat, 25th December 2021, and will let you know about our progress.

Keep in mind.
1. We will not run any ICO/ITO... other shit.
2. We will not run any website, service, application.
3. We will not give any interview.
4. As a result of our work, it will be just an public repository link here.

So what to do?
1. Just wait.
2. Then use it.
Can you tell us the name of your project?

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1st June, '21

We will publish the final edition of project whitepaper at .onion, where will be explained everything.
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December 22, 2020, 03:19:36 PM
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1. We will not run any ICO/ITO... other shit.
That's good but please don't ask for donations if you have all resources needs.

Idk what's your purpose and I don't fall in love with nice words, I prefer "show your work, not your words".

But they will not be able to confront the desire of everyone to directly control their own lives, cities where do they live...
There will be no confront Wink People don't want a better life. When most parts of the society have been slaves for centuries, it's in their genes, in their blood to follow that cult. One good example: When wages are low in companies while business is left with tons of profit and someone comes, asks for higher wage, you know what happens? Answer: Go if you don't like. Then these companies are even able to find people who will work on higher workload with lower wage, that's all.

I love this idea and that's what I wish to happen but... In this society, it won't happen.

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December 26, 2020, 09:22:16 AM
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1. We will not run any ICO/ITO... other shit.
That's good but please don't ask for donations if you have all resources needs.

Idk what's your purpose and I don't fall in love with nice words, I prefer "show your work, not your words".

But they will not be able to confront the desire of everyone to directly control their own lives, cities where do they live...
There will be no confront Wink People don't want a better life. When most parts of the society have been slaves for centuries, it's in their genes, in their blood to follow that cult. One good example: When wages are low in companies while business is left with tons of profit and someone comes, asks for higher wage, you know what happens? Answer: Go if you don't like. Then these companies are even able to find people who will work on higher workload with lower wage, that's all.

I love this idea and that's what I wish to happen but... In this society, it won't happen.


Bitcoin and other crypto is a new money. But we are does not have any possibility to use it everywhere in our lives. Our project - is the way to create autonomous ecosystems (DAE - Decentralized Autonomous Economic) with the own money (btc, eth, bcc... any crypto or other kind of "money"). Users will be able to participate in ecosystems like follow your page at twitter. This why we will not start any ico / ito and other kind of shit. We will not suggest you new shitcoin, we will suggest you decentralized social network toolkit with ecosystems for shitcoins, contracts and other =) And then - ecosystems will evolve to a some kind of next-gen tools (which? we will explain later).

Our purpose - is to make world better. That's it. I have removed donation row.  Wink
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December 29, 2020, 04:20:04 AM
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I'm not sure what you're trying to say. You've made a lot of claims and used a lot of words but have not given any specific details. If you're so confident you can achieve what you claim why did you need to beg for donations? You will need a lot more than a few satoshis to accomplish your goals.

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December 29, 2020, 06:31:17 AM
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I'm not sure what you're trying to say. You've made a lot of claims and used a lot of words but have not given any specific details. If you're so confident you can achieve what you claim why did you need to beg for donations? You will need a lot more than a few satoshis to accomplish your goals.

We need zero satoshis to accomplish our goals. Thank you.
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December 30, 2020, 05:52:02 AM
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It's quite an idea and a good project I must say, it sometimes baffles me the way we are all coming up with ideas that will better the world at large, but our respective governments are head bent on making life miserable for it's own citizens.
This is a good idea but the question now is whether our government and politicians will allow this project see the light of the day by accepting to use it, but all the same, I wish you guys good luck and success.

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December 31, 2020, 09:19:01 AM
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From paying taxes and even getting a job? This sounds like a big project that involves a lot of connections from multiple industries including the government from which I highly doubt will work. What I mean about that is before you make this "solution" have you even given a green light from governments that they will be using your project as a mode for their citizens to pay taxes? Because if not your project will be going nowhere because if no one will be part of it yet then your project is basically useless. The same goes for finding a job or paying a salary have you contacted companies about your project and has given you the "yes" that they will be using it? For teasers like this I think you must give a detailed info on what you will be doing exactly and who are part of it since you are being to vague with the information you are giving.

You're being so hard on the developer! He made a clear point on the project idea they are hardworking on bringing into life, i think the least anyone can do in this particular scenario is to sit tight and ask more questions and patiently wait for answers, you know rather than straight-up criticism and all sort of negativity...
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January 01, 2021, 04:26:21 PM
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From paying taxes and even getting a job? This sounds like a big project that involves a lot of connections from multiple industries including the government from which I highly doubt will work. What I mean about that is before you make this "solution" have you even given a green light from governments that they will be using your project as a mode for their citizens to pay taxes? Because if not your project will be going nowhere because if no one will be part of it yet then your project is basically useless. The same goes for finding a job or paying a salary have you contacted companies about your project and has given you the "yes" that they will be using it? For teasers like this I think you must give a detailed info on what you will be doing exactly and who are part of it since you are being to vague with the information you are giving.

You're being so hard on the developer! He made a clear point on the project idea they are hardworking on bringing into life, i think the least anyone can do in this particular scenario is to sit tight and ask more questions and patiently wait for answers, you know rather than straight-up criticism and all sort of negativity...

But providing a link I think is much better dude, if they will send us here, isn't right?
Although, even we ask several times here, in the end we do nothing but to wait on the result of their plan anyway
in the project they have in the future so far.
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January 01, 2021, 10:04:32 PM
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No government like decentralization. Blockchain tech born is enemy of central banks and giant companies. If you see some monster say they gonna embrace Blockchain tech, that will be ridiculous.
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January 03, 2021, 03:28:22 AM
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From paying taxes and even getting a job? This sounds like a big project that involves a lot of connections from multiple industries including the government from which I highly doubt will work. What I mean about that is before you make this "solution" have you even given a green light from governments that they will be using your project as a mode for their citizens to pay taxes? Because if not your project will be going nowhere because if no one will be part of it yet then your project is basically useless. The same goes for finding a job or paying a salary have you contacted companies about your project and has given you the "yes" that they will be using it? For teasers like this I think you must give a detailed info on what you will be doing exactly and who are part of it since you are being to vague with the information you are giving.

You're being so hard on the developer! He made a clear point on the project idea they are hardworking on bringing into life, i think the least anyone can do in this particular scenario is to sit tight and ask more questions and patiently wait for answers, you know rather than straight-up criticism and all sort of negativity...

But providing a link I think is much better dude, if they will send us here, isn't right?
Although, even we ask several times here, in the end we do nothing but to wait on the result of their plan anyway
in the project they have in the future so far.

Of course the links is better. Our goal is to show how we can use blockchain to make world better. Even if our implementation will not be completely applicable, community will take it as weapon which will work in near future to evolve our economy on next level.

Link with the whole whitepaper will be on 1st June at .onion in Tor network. It's not so easy to well explain the new age for everyone =) We are looking for existing projects, to explain which are the nearest to our complex solution, investigating politic and economic in the world to make detailed explanation of each problem and solutions using our project. Sorry, but I can't even say project name now, to avoid speculations.

I can say you shall not expect the new consensus algorithms or next gen blockchain models. But it's a new way of blockchain usage.
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January 03, 2021, 04:05:43 AM
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No government like decentralization. Blockchain tech born is enemy of central banks and giant companies. If you see some monster say they gonna embrace Blockchain tech, that will be ridiculous.

In the future, our project will put banks and governments before a choice:
1. Be transparent for people, use this project and let people live better
2. Support central banks, and let there be anarchy

The second choice is almost impossible in democratic countries. Why?
0. 2023-2025: Start project network
1. 2023-2028: Understanding the technology. Developing custom local clients / apps / plugins.
2. 2028-2030: Microeconomic migrates to decentralized network.
3. 2028-2032: Small stores/services starts using this project cuz it's really comfortable, flexible...
- Governments starts investigation.
4. 2028-2034: Companies looks for the OPTIONAL transparency and trying to use it with profit in a result.
- Someone may be in jail.
5. 2030-2035: 25-30% worlds economic is DAE (Decentralized Autonomous Economic)
- Governments can not control it because of decentralization. But it's everywhere. And the technology provides a way to MONITOR everything, but NOT CONTROL.

Final:
- There is no central banks. We have several thousands currencies in the world which are accepted as main currency in a different points over whole world.
- Governments can only ask people to pay taxes to solve some problem.
- Governments can only ask people to use theirs cryptobacks.
- No countries left with president / king / canceller / dictator... they only have a community leader who must solve task as fast, as he can, or he will be fired on a next day by the community.
- Protest against cops / judges / soldiers can be done by sitting at the home, and keeping them without salary for several weeks. But it will not be needed, because they understand -   salary goes directly from citizens they defend. No one guaranties them salary for this month, if they will do shit, as well, as for governments / leaders / presidents (you can call them as you want).
- War. It's a symptom of centralized supereconomic control. 90% war conflicts will stop. 10% will be stopped by the worlds community, simply supporting victim.
- No more sanctions / regulations / special zones. You can be comfortable everywhere. If not - start your own node, create rules to play, if neighborhoods supports you - you can be a community leader.

P.S. Even if we will not be able to complete implementation for some reason - whitepaper will be available for everyone. Do better if you can. Correct us if you want. Create own implementation. There is no patent and restrictions. Just a good idea and a nice chance to win.
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January 03, 2021, 04:13:03 AM
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The win chance = our project * community size.

Every new project member - is a growing chance to win.
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January 03, 2021, 04:49:52 PM
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