[SOLVED] Adkinsbet scamming me close to £2000 in winnings

[bleedrulez]

 (calculating the deposits and withdrawals)

What?
do you mean that there were several deposits and withdrawals?

@bleedrulez
please tell us. Did you have any other withdrawals that Adkinsbet allowed? This is very important to know!
if this is true, then Adkinsbet has no chance of saving face!

Yes, I made 2 withdrawals of less than £200 and several deposits which were more than the withdrawal. Only when I initiated a large withdrawal the account was closed.

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[bleedrulez]

Thanks AdkinsBET for quick response.

Now you can still do that, but you cannot save that data.

I checked that, and you are correct the data can not be saved as it does not take any input that is not on the list.

It was only when we started the KYC procedure that we found out that he was from the UK, and we immediately took action.

When have you started your KYC procedure? Before the withdrawal request or after the withdrawal request.
I assume after he requested for the withdrawal because if you had spotted it before the withdrawal request then he already had his account closed, correct? Besides remember, you did not stop him placing the bets he made despite he was from a region that is restricted.

The bookies I gamble, I think they always remind me that I am from a territory where they do not allow placing a bet. I use tor, so sometimes I get an IP which is restricted for them.

The management already informed me that the user will not receive his winnings, but they will discuss if the user will get his deposit back.

You are a new bookie and I see you are going through the experiences and improving your service constantly from the experiences. Very good thing and I have well wishes for you and your team. The Community needs some top-notch bookies so that the competition keeps them busy improving their services. Right now we do not have many bookmakers to have many options.

In this case I see error from both you and maybe from the accuser.
1. You had the error that the input allowed someone from the restricted area.
2. You allowed the accused account to place a (the) bet/s.
3. The user did not read (possibly) the term & conditions in other words you did not enforce the user to follow the tac.

In my opinion,
(1) the user should get his deposit back, there are no question about it, and we have seen bookies already to practice this.

(2) But since you had your errors in the site and also the user was not enforced to follow the terms & conditions, for the winnings - I would say you both settle in the middle or even better if you just accept the loss and pay him whatever he won. This may look that you are losing money (maybe) but your wins are that as a new bookie you are always putting your customers in the front which all business should.

There are no doubt in #1 that you need to give his deposit back but #2 is up to you and your management.

Thank you and everyone else for your assistance. Adkinsbet is saying they will give my deposit back but not the winnings. I will message them the btc address to send it to. I do not agree with this decision as I think they were also wrong and we should come to an agreement regarding payout of winnings. But what more can I do. There you have it folks. I will close the thread when I receive the payment.

[spyrosc200]

I opened my account with Adkinsbet at 20  Nov 2020.

Took screenshots of T&C at that day for the same reasons as OP, Great Britain was on prohibited juristictions list:

https://imgur.com/a/ioP5VLL

Also, 99% it wasn't possible to select Great Britain from Droplist. Have checked that at 20 Nov for other reasons:

https://imgur.com/a/k0p2pUb

I pointed that my screenshots were at 20 Nov.

OP registered at 7th Dec, maybe something changed meanwhile in T&C between 20/11 and 07/12.

On the other hand:

Adkinsbet site allowed user to enter ''Great Britain'' manually which is an error from their side

Adkinsbet haven't blocked IP's from Great Britain which is an error as well.

Adkinsbet allowed the user to place bets from Great Britain but closed his account when he requested a withrawal.

Imo both sides did mistakes.

In any case, user should at least get his deposits back.

Adkins management should examine paying user his winnings as well.

[AdkinsBET]

Thanks AdkinsBET for quick response.

Now you can still do that, but you cannot save that data.

I checked that, and you are correct the data can not be saved as it does not take any input that is not on the list.

It was only when we started the KYC procedure that we found out that he was from the UK, and we immediately took action.

When have you started your KYC procedure? Before the withdrawal request or after the withdrawal request.
I assume after he requested for the withdrawal because if you had spotted it before the withdrawal request then he already had his account closed, correct? Besides remember, you did not stop him placing the bets he made despite he was from a region that is restricted.

The bookies I gamble, I think they always remind me that I am from a territory where they do not allow placing a bet. I use tor, so sometimes I get an IP which is restricted for them.

The management already informed me that the user will not receive his winnings, but they will discuss if the user will get his deposit back.

You are a new bookie and I see you are going through the experiences and improving your service constantly from the experiences. Very good thing and I have well wishes for you and your team. The Community needs some top-notch bookies so that the competition keeps them busy improving their services. Right now we do not have many bookmakers to have many options.

In this case I see error from both you and maybe from the accuser.
1. You had the error that the input allowed someone from the restricted area.
2. You allowed the accused account to place a (the) bet/s.
3. The user did not read (possibly) the term & conditions in other words you did not enforce the user to follow the tac.

In my opinion,
(1) the user should get his deposit back, there are no question about it, and we have seen bookies already to practice this.

(2) But since you had your errors in the site and also the user was not enforced to follow the terms & conditions, for the winnings - I would say you both settle in the middle or even better if you just accept the loss and pay him whatever he won. This may look that you are losing money (maybe) but your wins are that as a new bookie you are always putting your customers in the front which all business should.

There are no doubt in #1 that you need to give his deposit back but #2 is up to you and your management.

Thank you and everyone else for your assistance. Adkinsbet is saying they will give my deposit back but not the winnings. I will message them the btc address to send it to. I do not agree with this decision as I think they were also wrong and we should come to an agreement regarding payout of winnings. But what more can I do. There you have it folks. I will close the thread when I receive the payment.

I am sorry Bleedrules, I read that you do not accept with this decision. In this case, I can not help you anymore.
I want to mention also that you were constantly lying here in this topic, that did not help either.
You blamed Adkinsbet that Great Britain was not in the terms and conditions as excluded list, but several users already proved with screenshots that Great Britain was from the beginning excluded.
They revoked my permission to solve this with you directly, as you refuse the offer and because of the false accusations against our company.
If you want to take further steps, you know what to do. Since you wrote in Emails that you are a lawyer by yourself 

[bleedrulez]

Thanks AdkinsBET for quick response.

Now you can still do that, but you cannot save that data.

I checked that, and you are correct the data can not be saved as it does not take any input that is not on the list.

It was only when we started the KYC procedure that we found out that he was from the UK, and we immediately took action.

When have you started your KYC procedure? Before the withdrawal request or after the withdrawal request.
I assume after he requested for the withdrawal because if you had spotted it before the withdrawal request then he already had his account closed, correct? Besides remember, you did not stop him placing the bets he made despite he was from a region that is restricted.

The bookies I gamble, I think they always remind me that I am from a territory where they do not allow placing a bet. I use tor, so sometimes I get an IP which is restricted for them.

The management already informed me that the user will not receive his winnings, but they will discuss if the user will get his deposit back.

You are a new bookie and I see you are going through the experiences and improving your service constantly from the experiences. Very good thing and I have well wishes for you and your team. The Community needs some top-notch bookies so that the competition keeps them busy improving their services. Right now we do not have many bookmakers to have many options.

In this case I see error from both you and maybe from the accuser.
1. You had the error that the input allowed someone from the restricted area.
2. You allowed the accused account to place a (the) bet/s.
3. The user did not read (possibly) the term & conditions in other words you did not enforce the user to follow the tac.

In my opinion,
(1) the user should get his deposit back, there are no question about it, and we have seen bookies already to practice this.

(2) But since you had your errors in the site and also the user was not enforced to follow the terms & conditions, for the winnings - I would say you both settle in the middle or even better if you just accept the loss and pay him whatever he won. This may look that you are losing money (maybe) but your wins are that as a new bookie you are always putting your customers in the front which all business should.

There are no doubt in #1 that you need to give his deposit back but #2 is up to you and your management.

Thank you and everyone else for your assistance. Adkinsbet is saying they will give my deposit back but not the winnings. I will message them the btc address to send it to. I do not agree with this decision as I think they were also wrong and we should come to an agreement regarding payout of winnings. But what more can I do. There you have it folks. I will close the thread when I receive the payment.

I am sorry Bleedrules, I read that you do not accept with this decision. In this case, I can not help you anymore.
I want to mention also that you were constantly lying here in this topic, that did not help either.
You blamed Adkinsbet that Great Britain was not in the terms and conditions as excluded list, but several users already proved with screenshots that Great Britain was from the beginning excluded.
They revoked my permission to solve this with you directly, as you refuse the offer and because of the false accusations against our company.
If you want to take further steps, you know what to do. Since you wrote in Emails that you are a lawyer by yourself 

What? I never said I do not accept it. I said I do not agree with it. That does not mean I do not accept it. You are misinterpreting my post. If I did not accept it, then why did I send you my btc wallet address hours ago? You are being very mean Adkinsbet

[bleedrulez]

I hope everyone here on the thread can see that Adkinsbet is refusing to at least return my deposit .

Why ? Because I said I do not agree with the decision, they took it to mean I don't accept it.

Everyone, please note that I sent Adkinsbet my btc wallet for the refund.

Just because I said I don't agree with their opinion, they take it to mean I don't accept their offer to return my deposit.

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I hope everyone here on the thread can see that Adkinsbet is refusing to at least return my deposit .

Why ? Because I said I do not agree with the decision, they took it to mean I don't accept it.

Everyone, please note that I sent Adkinsbet my btc wallet for the refund.

Just because I said I don't agree with their opinion, they take it to mean I don't accept their offer to return my deposit.

Adkinsbet has clearly indicated that they want to give you a refund. You literally responded that you disagree with their decision.

Then the representative writes that she can no longer help you because you do not accept their decision. Whose fault do you think that is?

There are sites who confiscate the whole funds if you gamble from a prohibited jurisdiction. You were already lucky they give you your deposit back.

You wrote this yourself, indicating that you do not agree with their decision.

Thank you and everyone else for your assistance. Adkinsbet is saying they will give my deposit back but not the winnings. I will message them the btc address to send it to. I do not agree with this decision as I think they were also wrong and we should come to an agreement regarding payout of winnings. But what more can I do. There you have it folks. I will close the thread when I receive the payment.

[sempak]

why should they actually help someone make false allegations about the terms and conditions? just pay more attention when you register. and don't pit yourself pretend to be some lawyer (assuming what Adkinsbet writes is true)
@bleedrules did you email Adkinsbet that you are a lawyer yourself?

[Cacingkemi]

What? I never said I do not accept it. I said I do not agree with it. That does not mean I do not accept it. You are misinterpreting my post. If I did not accept it, then why did I send you my btc wallet address hours ago? You are being very mean Adkinsbet

So you trying to convince people now that if you say you do not agree with it, that this is not the same as not accepting it?
I hope you realize that every message you post you lose your credibility with such nonsense.
Why did you blame Adkinsbet about their terms? you accused them Great Britain was not in their terms. What  lying piece of *** you are!
For a lawyer, your English is very bad. My English is also not very good, but I am not a lawyer so I do not have to  

[bleedrulez]

I hope everyone here on the thread can see that Adkinsbet is refusing to at least return my deposit .

Why ? Because I said I do not agree with the decision, they took it to mean I don't accept it.

Everyone, please note that I sent Adkinsbet my btc wallet for the refund.

Just because I said I don't agree with their opinion, they take it to mean I don't accept their offer to return my deposit.

Adkinsbet has clearly indicated that they want to give you a refund. You literally responded that you disagree with their decision.

Then the representative writes that she can no longer help you because you do not accept their decision. Whose fault do you think that is?

There are sites who confiscate the whole funds if you gamble from a prohibited jurisdiction. You were already lucky they give you your deposit back.

You wrote this yourself, indicating that you do not agree with their decision.

Thank you and everyone else for your assistance. Adkinsbet is saying they will give my deposit back but not the winnings. I will message them the btc address to send it to. I do not agree with this decision as I think they were also wrong and we should come to an agreement regarding payout of winnings. But what more can I do. There you have it folks. I will close the thread when I receive the payment.

You selectively hilight part of my quote. Why dont you understand the other part of what I said:

I said I will message them the btc wallet address to send the refund to.

I also said I do not agree with their decision because I thought they were also in the wrong and we could come to a compromise regarding a payout. I NEVER said that I do not accept a refund. You can disagree with a decision, but still accept it. Are you all here actually native English speakers? Because clearly some people here do not understand basic grammar.

Adkins bet is taking my statement that I do not agree with their decision to mean that I do not accept a refund.
If I am playing football and the referee gives my team mate a red card - I might not agree with the decision, but this does not mean that I dont accept it.

I never said anything to indicate that I dont accept the refund. I even sent Adkinsbet my btc wallet address which should count as indication that I am accepting the refund.

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I never said anything to indicate that I dont accept the refund. I even sent Adkinsbet my btc wallet address which should count as indication that I am accepting the refund.

In your case, considering your attitude, it would mean you want to accept the refund from your deposit, and when you will receive it, you will complain more and not close the topic.

Probably that is why they have chosen for this decision. Sending your btc wallet address only says nothing. You have to send it with the remark that you accept the refund from the deposit only.





I do not agree with this decision as I think they were also wrong and we should come to an agreement regarding payout of winnings.

We are not playing a football game here, that is an aimless comparison. And if you still want to go into your position, then you do not agree with it and you do not accept it.

Since you were so smart to put it behind it "We should" which means the case is not closed for you and sure you don't accept or disagree with the decision

If you would have accept the decision, you would never wrote "we should come to an agreement regarding payout of winnings"

Means you do not accept and also do not agree, both. Basically the same actually, but you are only trying to covering your bad posts and lies.

By the way: Did you pretend to be a lawyer on the Email conversation with Adkinsbet?

If you are really a lawyer, then I do not have to discuss this with you.

[bleedrulez]

To summarise:

1. Adkinsbet allows me to register from the UK. (you could select the UK as a country of residence, no IP block on the UK)
2. Adkinsbet allows me to play for over a week, making more deposits than withdrawals.
3. I try to make a withdrawal of close to 2000GBP in winnings and my account is closed - deposit and winnings confiscated.
4. After a week of asking for the money, Adkinsbet finally decides to issue refund of deposits, but not winnings.
5. I say I don't agree with them not returning the winnings, but at this point I have no choice, and I send them my btc wallet address in private message as they requested.
6. After delaying their decision for a week, surprisingly within a few hours they decide to revoke their decision to pay a deposit refund because they take my words to mean that I dont accept a refund from them.

Just to clarify Adkinsbet. I ACCEPT a refund. I disagree with the decision, but this does not mean that I wont accept a refund.

But you all are taking my words to mean I dont want a refund.

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@bleedrules

Did you pretend yourself to be a lawyer in the Emails or not?

[bleedrulez]

I never said anything to indicate that I dont accept the refund. I even sent Adkinsbet my btc wallet address which should count as indication that I am accepting the refund.

In your case, considering your attitude, it would mean you want to accept the refund from your deposit, and when you will receive it, you will complain more and not close the topic.

Probably that is why they have chosen for this decision. Sending your btc wallet address only says nothing. You have to send it with the remark that you accept the refund from the deposit only.





I do not agree with this decision as I think they were also wrong and we should come to an agreement regarding payout of winnings.

We are not playing a football game here, that is an aimless comparison. And if you still want to go into your position, then you do not agree with it and you do not accept it.

Since you were so smart to put it behind it "We should" which means the case is not closed for you and sure you don't accept or disagree with the decision

If you would have accept the decision, you would never wrote "we should come to an agreement regarding payout of winnings"

Means you do not accept and also do not agree, both. Basically the same actually, but you are only trying to covering your bad posts and lies.

By the way: Did you pretend to be a lawyer on the Email conversation with Adkinsbet?

If you are really a lawyer, then I do not have to discuss this with you.

Do you know what the meaning of "semantics" is?
My occupation is none of your business, I don't understand why you keep bringing that up.

[bleedrulez]

@bleedrules

Did you pretend yourself to be a lawyer in the Emails or not?

Look, another one asking if I'm really a lawyer. Of what concern is my occupation to you?

[spyrosc200]

OP should at least have his deposits back

Adkinsbet have no reason to confiscate his deposits.

Those money don't belong to Adkinsbet and if Adkinsbet did everything correct, those funds should have never reached Adkinsbet wallet. By

He may haven't expressed it correcty, yet, confiscation of deposits is no way justified.

If OP agrees having his deposits back and mark topic as solved, this will be the best for both sides given the sircumstances imo

[gadado]

@bleedrules

Did you pretend yourself to be a lawyer in the Emails or not?

Look, another one asking if I'm really a lawyer. Of what concern is my occupation to you?

I don't really care that much if you're a lawyer. A lawyer would never have approached this in this way. This topic shows your inexperience, lawyers would deal with it much differently.
I also notice that you are citing all kinds of points that you are trying to turn in your favor.

Why don't you post that the terms and conditions made it very clear that people from Great Britain are not accepted and that you have not read the terms and conditions yourself?
You even indicated that Adkinsbet would have changed this one day after you registered. So that is also lying what you do.
I hope Adkinsbet will give you that refund soon because I get tired of people like you who lie everything together just to get their way.

[Beparanf]

To summarise:

1. Adkinsbet allows me to register from the UK. (you could select the UK as a country of residence, no IP block on the UK)
2. Adkinsbet allows me to play for over a week, making more deposits than withdrawals.
3. I try to make a withdrawal of close to 2000GBP in winnings and my account is closed - deposit and winnings confiscated.
4. After a week of asking for the money, Adkinsbet finally decides to issue refund of deposits, but not winnings.
5. I say I don't agree with them not returning the winnings, but at this point I have no choice, and I send them my btc wallet address in private message as they requested.
6. After delaying their decision for a week, surprisingly within a few hours they decide to revoke their decision to pay a deposit refund because they take my words to mean that I dont accept a refund from them.

Just to clarify Adkinsbet. I ACCEPT a refund. I disagree with the decision, but this does not mean that I wont accept a refund.

But you all are taking my words to mean I dont want a refund.

You are just making things complicated here. Take note that you have fault here and adkinsbet is just making a consideration about your issue. They are willing to refund your money but you said that you disagree with there decision which implying that there act of refunding your funds is unacceptable for you since you are aiming to fully receive your winnings. You are lucky that they are willing to extend there help even though you violated there T&C.

[bleedrulez]

For the record, if Adkinsbet issued a refund, I will wholeheartedly and in good faith, accept this refund. I will mark the thread as solved and closed, and I will delete my accusation posts.

However, Adkinsbet say they have revoked their decision to issue a refund.

Can you please let me know your final decision in light of this post? I already sent my btc wallet address earlier when you asked, and I have been looking out for the refund since then.

Regards.

[acroman08]

@bleedrules
Did you pretend yourself to be a lawyer in the Emails or not?

Look, another one asking if I'm really a lawyer. Of what concern is my occupation to you?

well, you were the one who mentioned that you were a lawyer. of course, people would be intrigued if you lied regarding you about being a lawyer since you also lied that about Britain is not on the list of the prohibited country on their ToC.

To summarise:

1. Adkinsbet allows me to register from the UK. (you could select the UK as a country of residence, no IP block on the UK)
-snip

but that doesn't mean you can play. it was clearly stated on their ToC that Britain is one of the prohibited countries.

anyway, I hope you get your deposit back.