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December 27, 2020, 08:45:35 PM
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Oh, wait, he already forgot.

Give him a break. If you'd been farming and selling accounts for years you'd know how hard it is to keep track of all of them. Also - would you really want to remember all the scamming and plagiarizing shitheads you sold them to.

But hey, he apologized for one sockpuppet.
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December 27, 2020, 09:04:15 PM
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But hey, he apologized for one sockpuppet.
Maybe PrimeNumber7 will create new topic on New Year's Eve and apologize for his other sockpuppets?

Quickseller I mean, not PrimeNumber7, damn fat fingers. edited
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December 29, 2020, 01:55:23 AM
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Suchmoon has a personal gripe for being doxxed.
Last night, I reported about 20 posts, including 4 by SM herself that contain her a name. There are a bunch in the GAW thread that remain unhandled, it might be because it is such a massive thread.
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December 29, 2020, 02:28:16 AM
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Suchmoon has a personal gripe for being doxxed.
Last night, I reported about 20 posts, including 4 by SM herself that contain her a name. There are a bunch in the GAW thread that remain unhandled, it might be because it is such a massive thread.

I guess in the douchenozzle universe reporting my posts absolves you of your repeated attempts to put other people in harm's way.

Let's recap for the slow kids:

Some asshole purchased from another asshole a fake dox of me. This was back BEFORE the anti-doxing rules were established.

I unsuccessfully tried to deny the validity of the dox because that's all I could do at the time.

Some other assholes including Quicksy repeatedly posted the dox even AFTER the anti-doxing rules had been established. Quicksy's excuse was that my denials meant I posted it myself so it's fair game... This also led to the correct dox being dug up by someone but that one now appears to have been squashed.

tl;dr: moving 5-years-old posts to Investigations won't do jack shit. Banning Quicksy and other persistent malicious doxers would be a step in the right direction.
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December 29, 2020, 08:51:06 AM
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Suchmoon has a personal gripe for being doxxed.
Last night, I reported about 20 posts, including 4 by SM herself that contain her a name. There are a bunch in the GAW thread that remain unhandled, it might be because it is such a massive thread.

Having discovered the shoe is now on my other foot, these DT Trollls will say and do anything to continue to be confrontational regardless of who they take out as collateral damage along the way. So, I am seeing your predicament QS in a new light having come here Cap-in-hand to reconsile with these DT Trolls only to have them continue to Troll you.

Take my advice QS: place the DT Trolls on ignore including via PM.  You don't need their agrovation.

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December 29, 2020, 05:08:38 PM
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Take my advice QS: place the DT Trolls on ignore including via PM.  You don't need their agrovation.

It was QS that sent me the unsolicited PM to visit this thread.   I've taken your advice and blocked him for at least another year.   Maybe 2021 will be the year he decides to become an honest person.

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December 29, 2020, 05:31:39 PM
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Take my advice QS: place the DT Trolls on ignore including via PM.  You don't need their agrovation.

It was QS that sent me the unsolicited PM to visit this thread. 
This is false, you were not sent a PM to visit this thread.
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December 29, 2020, 06:05:04 PM
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Take my advice QS: place the DT Trolls on ignore including via PM.  You don't need their agrovation.

It was QS that sent me the unsolicited PM to visit this thread.  
This is false, you were not sent a PM to visit this thread.

End 2020 the same way you started it - lying.

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December 29, 2020, 06:18:50 PM
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Take my advice QS: place the DT Trolls on ignore including via PM.  You don't need their agrovation.

It was QS that sent me the unsolicited PM to visit this thread. 
This is false, you were not sent a PM to visit this thread.

End 2020 the same way you started it - lying.

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December 29, 2020, 06:25:00 PM
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Banning Quicksy and other persistent malicious doxers would be a step in the right direction.

You can show you are genuine by distrusting your partner Vod for this behavior. Unfortunately you aren’t genuine, or consistent, or care about doing what’s right. You only care about you and what gets you more influence in the trust network to terrorize others who don’t share your views from participating here.

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December 29, 2020, 06:29:02 PM
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You should have an admin verify the authenticity of you receiving a PM from me with that title.

Then do it.  Theymos has my permission to ban me with prejudice if you did not send that PM.

You can show you are genuine by distrusting your partner Vod for this behavior.

Defund the police!  Let the scammers win and everyone else starve! 

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December 29, 2020, 07:15:03 PM
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I was planning on staying out of this, because I don't have a dog in this fight.  QS has always been decent and polite to me, so I have no personal grievances against him.  I've said it before; I enjoy reading QS's posts, and often find his contributions welcome and valuable.

And now, the moment you've all been waiting for; my unsolicited opinion about this apology:

I wanted to apologize to anyone whose trust I may have broken over the years, including but not limited to one particular incident.

At first blush, I was really impressed.  This is great.  Here's an apology for 5 year old dispute, long held grudges, and an obvious abuse of the community's trust.  There's even an a half-hearted acknowledgement that what we suspected is true; Panther52 is QS.  

It does take a lot of balls to own up to having made a mistake.  But wait, what's this:

I got the idea from another forum member who was in very good standing, and was well trusted at the time throughout the community -- I entered into a transaction with what turned out to be one of his sockpuppets, and he suggested that we use his 'main' account as a middle man. When I got caught, I lied about being banned in order to cover it up, which was wrong, is something I should not have done, and is something I regret doing.

Who cares where you got the idea? Is that supposed to absolve you of shady dealings?  I watched Ocean's 11 a few weeks ago, but I'm not plotting to rob a casino now.  WTF, over?  

And I'll be honest, the first thing that came to mind when I read the above paragraph was: who is this guy that gave you this shitty idea, and why haven't you exposed him for the scammer that he is?

I also wanted to apologize to anyone who I may have otherwise harmed over the years in any other way (I have never stolen from anyone here, or IRL). I am a very principled person, but sometimes did not get other perspectives, or try to be able to see things from the other person's shoes before starting a topic. I should have done better.

I have always cared about my reputation here. Even when I was someone who was well trusted, I did not like it when people opened fake scam accusations because they were upset at me. My intentions were always good, even if my actions were not.  

Thank you.

Here you claim that you've never stolen from anyone, but I take issue with that statement.  You admitted that you were providing escrow for your own dealings, and by all appearances you were charging fees for the escrow service.  Claiming that you've never stolen makes me think that semantics are more important to you than actions.  Obviously you were charging for a service that was not provided.  Sure, technically that's not theft, but it's rather deceptive, and certainly fraudulent.  You may not have scammed anyone through your deception, but it was deception nonetheless.  A deception that earned you some marginal fees.  Didn't Wells Fargo just recently get run through the wringer for doing similar stuff?

You also claim that your reputation is important to you, and I have no reason to doubt that.  In fact, I believe you.  You've never let your red tags get in the way of being helpful to others, and I can't recall a time when you've blatantly lied about anything.  But there's a fine line between lying and not telling the truth.  For five years you've been omitting or manipulating facts, obfuscating the truth, and simply steering around accusations of sockputting without actually denying it.

Put all this together, and all of the sudden your claim of being "a very principled person" starts to sound a bit laughable.  Principled people don't do things they know to be wrong, they don't deny responsibility or accountability for having done things that are wrong, and they don't continue to do the wrong thing until they're caught.  They don't wait 5 years after being caught to apologize for their wrongdoings.  So now after having had time to really digest this apology, it comes off as rather contrite.

None of what I wrote above would prevent me from giving you the benefit of the doubt however, if you did actually start to act as if you are a very principled person.  I would suggest coming clean about all of it.  The sockpuppeting, the account sales, the self escrow, the doxxing, all of it.  If you truly care about your reputation, that would be a good place to start.  If you were to come clean, none of these gripes being aired out by Vod and Suchmoon would have any meaning.  They become just that; gripes.  Once you acknowledge and own them, they no longer have power over you.

Responsibility and accountability; traits of very principled people.  

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December 29, 2020, 07:24:59 PM
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I can't recall a time when you've blatantly lied about anything.

A couple posts up.   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5303539.msg55969163#msg55969163

I've reported the post and asked that he be temp banned for using Theymos in his lie.

What am I supposed to do?  PM Theymos and ask him if I received the message?  Its in my frickin inbox lol.

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December 29, 2020, 07:40:44 PM
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I can't recall a time when you've blatantly lied about anything.

A couple posts up.   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5303539.msg55969163#msg55969163

I've reported the post and asked that he be temp banned for using Theymos in his lie.

What am I supposed to do?  PM Theymos and ask him if I received the message?  Its in my frickin inbox lol.

Lol, I did say "blatantly."  I suspect more of QS's semantics games are at play here.


This is false, you were not sent a PM to visit this thread.


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December 29, 2020, 07:50:11 PM
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I can't recall a time when you've blatantly lied about anything.

A couple posts up.   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5303539.msg55969163#msg55969163

I've reported the post and asked that he be temp banned for using Theymos in his lie.

What am I supposed to do?  PM Theymos and ask him if I received the message?  Its in my frickin inbox lol.

Lol, I did say "blatantly."  I suspect more of QS's semantics games are at play here.


This is false, you were not sent a PM to visit this thread.


There are no semantics games. I had addressed a PM to Vod and received an error message saying it was not sent to him because he had blocked PMs from me. Prior to making that post, I checked my outbox and confirmed that Vods name was not on the list of people that were BCCed on the message I sent.

The only way what I said would be false is if I sent the message to a secret alt of Vods. 
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December 29, 2020, 07:53:32 PM
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There are no semantics games. I had addressed a PM to Vod and received an error message saying it was not sent to him because he had blocked PMs from me. Prior to making that post, I checked my outbox and confirmed that Vods name was not on the list of people that were BCCed on the message I sent.

So have you asked Theymos to verify it was sent to me?  I can't really ask him since I see it.  lol


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December 29, 2020, 08:10:28 PM
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act as if you are a very principled person

This. We don't need contrived apologies, dramatic exits, cringy bragging, none of that shit really matters. Reputation is earned, not claimed or declared.
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December 29, 2020, 08:29:02 PM
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There are no semantics games. I had addressed a PM to Vod and received an error message saying it was not sent to him because he had blocked PMs from me. Prior to making that post, I checked my outbox and confirmed that Vods name was not on the list of people that were BCCed on the message I sent.

So have you asked Theymos to verify it was sent to me?  I can't really ask him since I see it.  lol


It seems that I am mistaken. I received confirmation that the message was in fact delivered to Vod, according to Theymos.

My apologies.
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December 29, 2020, 10:12:33 PM
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My apologies.

I have no alt accounts you idiot. 


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December 30, 2020, 12:15:49 AM
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Take my advice QS: place the DT Trolls on ignore including via PM.  You don't need their agrovation.

It was QS that sent me the unsolicited PM to visit this thread. 
This is false, you were not sent a PM to visit this thread.

End 2020 the same way you started it - lying.

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You should have an admin verify the authenticity of you receiving a PM from me with that title.

I got one too, are you saying you didn't send this pm?
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