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December 27, 2020, 01:51:39 PM
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I can’t believe all of them are so stubborn just like trump!!

Despite all the very obvious hints of crisis coming!

I told them market crash will be back in 2017/2018! They deny it

I told them to save themselves they need to grab gold in 2017/2018! They deny it

I told them they need to sell everything they have in FIAT and get bitcoin! They deny it

I told them covid is the biggest crisis ever! They still deny it

I dunno what to say about the people in REAL WORLD! It is over they’re too deep into the denial, they can’t tell they’re in dipshit and never want to change and even listen to one of my advice! I hate to convince the people in real world, they’re dumb just like politician, they’re so stubborn, and the stubborn on the wrong reason!

They go to work, they go to spend all their money on latest phone games car everything, they continue to punting in stock market, they continue to call me an idiot that know nothing but spreading fud, they continue to don’t buy bitcoin and gold, even to this day, I can’t convince them at all, they block me and ban me, they totally unfriend me on contact list, idk, they’re too stubborn, they are just unreachable to me, it’s over! Everything is over, this real world is over!

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December 27, 2020, 03:05:46 PM
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Maybe, your way on telling them how important bitcoin in the market is not that effective and that maybe the reason why they don't believe on you. When you want someone to invest on bitcoin, then please them because if they are not willing to understand and appreciate the advantages of bitcoin then leave them. They will not listen to you if they are not interested and instead of looking for them, look for the person whose willing to earn money, invest, and become successful in the future. If you meet someone with that mindset then don't hesitate to give him an opportunity to learn about bitcoin.
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December 27, 2020, 03:31:23 PM
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Maybe, your way on telling them how important bitcoin in the market is not that effective and that maybe the reason why they don't believe on you. When you want someone to invest on bitcoin, then please them because if they are not willing to understand and appreciate the advantages of bitcoin then leave them. They will not listen to you if they are not interested and instead of looking for them, look for the person whose willing to earn money, invest, and become successful in the future. If you meet someone with that mindset then don't hesitate to give him an opportunity to learn about bitcoin.

It’s not easy, the news are very visible to them, on social network, many years ago, crisis isn’t very obvious, most people get the information based on news paper, yup that’s pre 2008, after the introduction of social media, information explode quickly, the hints on market crash are share all over the social network, with very solid proof, the number added up, and I quickly realise something is absolutely wrong with the numbers, they lied on the numbers and that number would bring crisis, I told all my friends the news are all over the page ok our social network, they nods and think it’s absolutely wrong, they know it’s wrong, next I tell them they need to get gold, because gold is the truth, gold wouldn’t lie on the number, unlike the people who would lie on number, they agree on me for a while but they never take action and buy gold, the crisis come every ten plus years yes they all know it and agree with it, they know it’s coming, when the price of gold begin to soar and bitcoin price begin to soar, I know something is absolutely wrong, I tell all of them, everything is not fine, crisis is coming, they all agree but never take action, the market finally crash in 2020, the oil plummet to -ve, everybody are screaming pain all over the social network, I tell them, all my friend agree but never take action, I keep buying gold and bitcoin after the oil crashes and tell them they need to do so, they agree but never take action, finally today they all block me and don’t want to communicate with me anymore, not even a “thank you” for telling them the most obvious and save their life, idk they’re all over for me! I can’t convince them at all they’re totally disconnected and living in total denial, I have no idea why they turn into total stubborn, I can’t find a reason why they can’t tell the numbers is wrong and crisis is definitely coming to fix the error, it’s all written on the social network, it’s being spread quicker than ever, but they just can’t make changes, all the people in REAL WORLD, yup in the virtual world on the internet people has still some sense of crisis, but there is nobody in REAL WORLD can sense the crisis, that’s so horrible they’re all still living on denial.

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December 27, 2020, 03:58:24 PM
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I can’t believe all of them are so stubborn just like trump!!

Despite all the very obvious hints of crisis coming!

I told them market crash will be back in 2017/2018! They deny it

I told them to save themselves they need to grab gold in 2017/2018! They deny it

I told them they need to sell everything they have in FIAT and get bitcoin! They deny it

I told them covid is the biggest crisis ever! They still deny it

I dunno what to say about the people in REAL WORLD! It is over they’re too deep into the denial, they can’t tell they’re in dipshit and never want to change and even listen to one of my advice! I hate to convince the people in real world, they’re dumb just like politician, they’re so stubborn, and the stubborn on the wrong reason!


why do you feel like you are losing? I think to equate perception with what we understand, that is a difficult thing, and for what? they think because of their ignorance.
and it seems to me you are right to do that, and it seems to me that when they deny it is also true. so you are right and they are right.


that no one really wants to confess, so it is better for you to be in your belief about all crises, bitcoin, gold etc.
all have their own way of approaching. because our situation with them is not necessarily the same. so differences are a natural thing as humans. no need to bother.

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December 27, 2020, 04:04:00 PM
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Yeah right. and they suspend lockdowns just to celebrate xmas and spread more viruses.. good move.  Grin
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December 27, 2020, 04:09:32 PM
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I can’t believe all of them are so stubborn just like trump!!

Despite all the very obvious hints of crisis coming!

I told them market crash will be back in 2017/2018! They deny it

I told them to save themselves they need to grab gold in 2017/2018! They deny it

I told them they need to sell everything they have in FIAT and get bitcoin! They deny it

I told them covid is the biggest crisis ever! They still deny it

I dunno what to say about the people in REAL WORLD! It is over they’re too deep into the denial, they can’t tell they’re in dipshit and never want to change and even listen to one of my advice! I hate to convince the people in real world, they’re dumb just like politician, they’re so stubborn, and the stubborn on the wrong reason!


why do you feel like you are losing? I think to equate perception with what we understand, that is a difficult thing, and for what? they think because of their ignorance.
and it seems to me you are right to do that, and it seems to me that when they deny it is also true. so you are right and they are right.


that no one really wants to confess, so it is better for you to be in your belief about all crises, bitcoin, gold etc.
all have their own way of approaching. because our situation with them is not necessarily the same. so differences are a natural thing as humans. no need to bother.

You know what is my conclusion??

Everyone in Real World has become the ultimate victim of Pavlov Dog experiment.

The Pavlov dogs when train to feed on food while ringing bell for everyday and for consecutively a few months, the Pavlov dog will drooling its mouth when heard the bell ring despite there is not food around!!

Yup all my friends in Real Life has become prime example of Pavlov Dog, they had become paralyse with the information and their inaction it finally become part of their habit when they do that again they get inaction, THAT is so crazy the Pavlov Dog theory is so dangerous it’s turning everybody into submission into poverty without questions!! I’m totally speechless and can’t fix the Pavlov Dog disease!

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December 27, 2020, 04:22:45 PM
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we are used to think everything is going to be alright though. things are very unexpected because of this covid19. if the price of all assets are going to be dumped, people wouldn't really think an advice from someone online will e reliable.

up until today when bitcoin proves to be resilient when it comes to pandemic like this covid, none of my inlaws thought of investing on btc.









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Yeah right. and they suspend lockdowns just to celebrate xmas and spread more viruses.. good move.  Grin

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we are used to think everything is going to be alright though. things are very unexpected because of this covid19. if the price of all assets are going to be dumped, people wouldn't really think an advice from someone online will e reliable.

up until today when bitcoin proves to be resilient when it comes to pandemic like this covid, none of my inlaws thought of investing on btc.
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That’s so true, I can’t find anyone in REAL LIFE that’s even realising and stop living in denial, they’re constantly trying to mental gymnastics on me and call me an idiot despite I tell them very early and even lead by action and prove to them with actual result but none of them want to understand why I do that, they’re crave for my achievement but unwilling to take the risk I’m going through? Idk what are holding them by the ball from getting out of this chaos!
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December 27, 2020, 04:37:28 PM
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You no need to prove anything to anyone, even if you do the right thing do you think people will consider it? unless you are a celebrity. It is not possible for everyone to understand the thing behind the economical structure so making everyone equally in the financial status is also not possible.

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December 27, 2020, 04:38:14 PM
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snip..
logically you have no point in awakening them, you are just too "selfish" and impose your will so that they must think the same as you.  let them stick with their "stupid" mindset and we stick with our futuristic mindset.  Bitcoin is the future and they will regret that fact..

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The person that taught me had to tell me once and only once if I had done all he said was not as important as the first message he told me about Bitcoin, he only asked once how things where going and and difficulty and it was very brief. When you seem to look adamant, control-hungry people don't like that, I don't know how you do it but you making it as though there are percentage you will collect from their success?

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December 27, 2020, 04:56:45 PM
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You have no evidence of whatsoever therefore ofcourse people didn't listen to your advice. It's not like pandemic was forecasted in advance. You have to understand for a fact that this happened but you cannot blame them for not listening.
No one can track the market for sure , no one knows what's going to happen and therefore as weird as it is , that's how it goes. Are you an astrologist or someone ? A time traveller ? No right ? This are baseless claims that one has to give a reason for.
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we are used to think everything is going to be alright though. things are very unexpected because of this covid19. if the price of all assets are going to be dumped, people wouldn't really think an advice from someone online will e reliable.

up until today when bitcoin proves to be resilient when it comes to pandemic like this covid, none of my inlaws thought of investing on btc.

Which advice can they consider reliable ? Advice from the government ? From a company ? From banks ? Everyone is in a state of crisis and is making really haphazard decisions. Do what you think is best for you so that you won't have anyone to blame later.

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All the people in REAL WORLD around me still live in denial, they keep telling me they’re having a very happy and fulfilling life and their hand are full of work to do they’re very busy working, idk I’m watching them look very pale from the outside they look horrible to me like a soulless creep to me, but I refuse to greet them on that, I respect they’re very honest and hardworking person, they don’t deserve to be poor at all but idk seriously.

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That’s also won’t stop me from doing that, I constantly spam them and to the point they would warn me about limiting my spam and eventually they ignore and ban me on chat, that’s funny when I go to meet them in real life they look perfectly normal again, idk what’s wrong are they totally screwed up or something.
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logically you have no point in awakening them, you are just too "selfish" and impose your will so that they must think the same as you.  let them stick with their "stupid" mindset and we stick with our futuristic mindset.  Bitcoin is the future and they will regret that fact..

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That’s not good, they’re definitely good person to me, I’m compelled to make inform, that’s funny may be I’m not their boss that’s why they take my words lightly because boss is always more important than your friends, boss is your only most important person in your life without your boss you have no life, that’s Pavlov dog training has train so horrible that the market has turn into lifeless and everybody can only spread their information on social network and even social network begin to block users from entering into their site, what’s wrong with the REAL world!! That’s totally not fine to me.

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The person that taught me had to tell me once and only once if I had done all he said was not as important as the first message he told me about Bitcoin, he only asked once how things where going and and difficulty and it was very brief. When you seem to look adamant, control-hungry people don't like that, I don't know how you do it but you making it as though there are percentage you will collect from their success?

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That’s tough, kinda give fish to the poor vs teach the poor to fish, in the end both are often FINE by them, the reason, unconditionally, just spam and spam, that’s totally unacceptable but why? They’re looking very tired everyday for no reason I believe during this pandemic people has less work to do yet getting tired like never before, but I’m hyperactive despite this pandemic has push a lot of people into depression and down to the bottom, idk, I’m thinking emotion has finally nail everybody on their REAL LIFE and they still think it’s totally FINE.

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You have no evidence of whatsoever therefore ofcourse people didn't listen to your advice. It's not like pandemic was forecasted in advance. You have to understand for a fact that this happened but you cannot blame them for not listening.
No one can track the market for sure , no one knows what's going to happen and therefore as weird as it is , that's how it goes. Are you an astrologist or someone ? A time traveller ? No right ? This are baseless claims that one has to give a reason for.
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we are used to think everything is going to be alright though. things are very unexpected because of this covid19. if the price of all assets are going to be dumped, people wouldn't really think an advice from someone online will e reliable.

up until today when bitcoin proves to be resilient when it comes to pandemic like this covid, none of my inlaws thought of investing on btc.

Which advice can they consider reliable ? Advice from the government ? From a company ? From banks ? Everyone is in a state of crisis and is making really haphazard decisions. Do what you think is best for you so that you won't have anyone to blame later.

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Maybe you can explain to those who understand and are interested in your thinking first. Because without equality of wants and needs, it may be difficult to explain to others what you think. When it is in line, then you can explain in detail why your opinion is worthy of being followed. You also need to prove to them what you say is true on the basis of science, and practice in the field. You need people who think your equal to win their hearts.
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I can’t believe all of them are so stubborn just like trump!!

Despite all the very obvious hints of crisis coming!

I told them market crash will be back in 2017/2018! They deny it

I told them to save themselves they need to grab gold in 2017/2018! They deny it

I told them they need to sell everything they have in FIAT and get bitcoin! They deny it

I told them covid is the biggest crisis ever! They still deny it

I dunno what to say about the people in REAL WORLD! It is over they’re too deep into the denial, they can’t tell they’re in dipshit and never want to change and even listen to one of my advice! I hate to convince the people in real world, they’re dumb just like politician, they’re so stubborn, and the stubborn on the wrong reason!

They go to work, they go to spend all their money on latest phone games car everything, they continue to punting in stock market, they continue to call me an idiot that know nothing but spreading fud, they continue to don’t buy bitcoin and gold, even to this day, I can’t convince them at all, they block me and ban me, they totally unfriend me on contact list, idk, they’re too stubborn, they are just unreachable to me, it’s over! Everything is over, this real world is over!
That is just the way they are, people that can see the game and take actions are few and far between, you should stop your attempts to try to convince people, I know because I tried as well and no one listens, so let them fail and drown in a sea of debt in the future while all the stuff they bought on credit only losses value and they cannot even resell it for a tenth of what they paid, it is harsh but those are the same people that will see people like us doing well and then they will ask the governments to tax us massively in the name of fairness.
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We cannot expect everybody to think along side us or give in to whatsoever we present to them this are the characteristics that made us human. You might think that what you told them they didn't reason along with you but there are some set of people who would have tried what you told them but they won't come back to tell you that or give you feedback.

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Maybe you can explain to those who understand and are interested in your thinking first. Because without equality of wants and needs, it may be difficult to explain to others what you think. When it is in line, then you can explain in detail why your opinion is worthy of being followed. You also need to prove to them what you say is true on the basis of science, and practice in the field. You need people who think your equal to win their hearts.
At these time it's too hard to convince people, they will just believe once it already happens or once they get infected. People have their own will and consciousness, whatever we do it didn't matters in them as long as their okay so we just better keep ourselves healthy and save as much as we can especially now that there news of new virus we need to be healthier and save money as much as we can to live.

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You don't need to explain your self just to make other people believe in you they have their own mind and decision in life , let them what they want to do . No one will understand you If in the first place they don't want to listened . Let them see it to happen so they can decide on thier own ,no need for more explanation you are just wasting your time and energy to the person that you know will not listen to you.
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If you're just telling people this and that without factual evidences, nobody is really going to take your claims seriously. In this world, evidences and proof is king. If you wanna be believed in, you gotta prove yourself first. This is also the case for these claims you may have been making this past few years, we understand your concern but mkae sure that your claims are at least backed with an evidence to support it.

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You don't need to explain your self just to make other people believe in you they have their own mind and decision in life , let them what they want to do . No one will understand you If in the first place they don't want to listened . Let them see it to happen so they can decide on thier own ,no need for more explanation you are just wasting your time and energy to the person that you know will not listen to you.

That's right! You can't force someone to believe what other people are saying. We have our own life, own problems to deal everyday. It is up to the person how he will live his life. So just mind your own business and maybe, the OP will not stress himself with what is happening around him. Let the people take care of their own business.
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No need sweating it this hard member, the world is going through what i understand to be termed as the end of an era, with the current global public health issue businesses and the economy of many nations are trembling so hard. Bitcoin and cryptocurrency has since shown a positive response as a reliable store of value that the world can seamlessly rely on. Being into cryptocurrency right now i would say is a rare privileged, lets be Bitcoin evangelist but we do not have to sweat on it while trying to help anyone get the picture.
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Take a chill pill and think again. They are buying Gold and Bitcoin now, so they are doing what you wanted earlier no? What is the problem then? And you are thinking too much, there is nothing like people are using their money on phones, cars, etc. but are dealing with the bills they didn't pay during whole covid period, they are buying and stocking food for themselves and their family. They should get out to earn, if they will not earn, who will help their family to survive?
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People who are stubborn are hard to conquer. We have tried to explain to invest in Bitcoin, but they ignore it and tend to think negatively. They remain steadfast in their stance. If it's like this, just ignore it, don't interfere with their business anymore.
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I've seen that in the early times before the outbreak started in the world that people even citizens are thinking that COVID-19 is isn't that serious that even country leaders and officials are saying it and maybe that is why their citizens are not making it a big deal. But if you look at documentaries from hospitals you will see that the situation is really bad. Ignorance is something that is really bad and it just makes things worst for them with regards to spreading the virus more.
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Maybe you can explain to those who understand and are interested in your thinking first. Because without equality of wants and needs, it may be difficult to explain to others what you think. When it is in line, then you can explain in detail why your opinion is worthy of being followed. You also need to prove to them what you say is true on the basis of science, and practice in the field. You need people who think your equal to win their hearts.

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That’s simply impossible task mate, they’re completely Pavlov Dogged to the point they become numb, market crash come back every ten years I’d said it again next would be 2028-2030 this is a event of guaranteed happening there is all the social economical reason the crisis strike, because gender behaviour is based on this cycle and that this cycle just work like a cult mentality and market then crash, a market that work based on ponzi and printed money, a bubble popping in ten years it’s well known to them they just won’t take action, blasphemy, completely over for the Real World, the Pavlovian theory perfect example.

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All of them are watching that coming they definitely know it’s coming, the crisis is coming, the oil plummet is coming, it’s way over ten of years bubble forming, the last crash on 2008 and 2000 dot com, this are not secret, next would be 2028-2030, everything is there with solid proof and number that added up telling them this bubble is unsustainable and gonna explode real bad, knowing they need to save themselves, but nope they decide to get completely numb and submit into bubble and jump into the rabbit hole of no return, I can’t believe you all would retaliate when we face dangerous on the wild but for these people when they face life threatening moment they would just properly do nothing and let it happen, totally numbed wouldn’t retaliate, won’t fight back completely betatized and unable to make changes!

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Yup they properly were doing that what I tell them to do, but it’s mind boggling when I ask them they tell me they didn’t and they instead ask me why I don’t want to tell them to do that, that’s stupid! Over the time I finally discovered they don’t even doing what to do, despite knowing what to do, that’s frustrating the people in the Real World are over, they’re unconsciously become part of the Pavlov Dog and unconsciously submit into their own inaction and get screwed up from inflation!
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At these time it's too hard to convince people, they will just believe once it already happens or once they get infected. People have their own will and consciousness, whatever we do it didn't matters in them as long as their okay so we just better keep ourselves healthy and save as much as we can especially now that there news of new virus we need to be healthier and save money as much as we can to live.

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That’s crazy people in the real world are becoming numb despite they’re stirring shit on social media, they’re screaming pain despite knowing crashes is coming they know crisis is reaching, they know thing are getting dire, they’re the one who first exposed to social media way before politician and fake news begin to infect the site with fake news cyber keyboard warrior who work for government to spread attempt to calm shit, they all know what they should do but despite they’re convinced, they simply take no action, that’s perfect Pavlov Dog training finally take a toll, I used asked them why they didn’t take action despite knowing, they would instead answer the dunno how to buy bitcoin or buy gold nobody guide them, I can’t believe that they don’t even have enough the motivation to get info, that’s speechless, they’re completely helpless to me at this point, now that they just decide to BLOCK and BAN after missing all the opportunities that’s the people in REAL WORLD for me, they’re dumb just like trump.

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You don't need to explain your self just to make other people believe in you they have their own mind and decision in life , let them what they want to do . No one will understand you If in the first place they don't want to listened . Let them see it to happen so they can decide on thier own ,no need for more explanation you are just wasting your time and energy to the person that you know will not listen to you.

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That’s crazy we all see the number going up, the covid mutated is coming the people are rushing to stockpiling toilet paper canned food video games whatever,...!!! They think it’s all FINE the real world is over!

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If you're just telling people this and that without factual evidences, nobody is really going to take your claims seriously. In this world, evidences and proof is king. If you wanna be believed in, you gotta prove yourself first. This is also the case for these claims you may have been making this past few years, we understand your concern but mkae sure that your claims are at least backed with an evidence to support it.

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Crazy people are dying on the road and DECOMPOSE they just watch it like a bystander and they ciao!! That’s crazy the cop are shooting dead in front of them and they think that’s FINE. Crazy people are gathering up and lead a protest they think it’s FINE. Crazy people are watching people starve to death they all think it’s FINE! It’s over the Real World is over for me they think everything is FINE no matter how ABSURD that can be! They become Pavlov Dogged that Everything is Fine that they become part of that stupidity and get screwed despite knowing it and think it’s FINE they screwed me royally!!! Blasphemy!

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That's right! You can't force someone to believe what other people are saying. We have our own life, own problems to deal everyday. It is up to the person how he will live his life. So just mind your own business and maybe, the OP will not stress himself with what is happening around him. Let the people take care of their own business.

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That’s crazy even you think it is FINE to not tell them it’s totally not FINE!! The real world are over everybody think everything is FINE and we all just think of ourself and coughing ourself with everything is FINE, that’s over it’s FINE it’s over it’s fine everyone is FINE!! It’s not fine crazy people in REAL WORLD are over they’re fine to not talk about market crash!!! Crazy!!

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I've seen that in the early times before the outbreak started in the world that people even citizens are thinking that COVID-19 is isn't that serious that even country leaders and officials are saying it and maybe that is why their citizens are not making it a big deal. But if you look at documentaries from hospitals you will see that the situation is really bad. Ignorance is something that is really bad and it just makes things worst for them with regards to spreading the virus more.

People who are stubborn are hard to conquer. We have tried to explain to invest in Bitcoin, but they ignore it and tend to think negatively. They remain steadfast in their stance. If it's like this, just ignore it, don't interfere with their business anymore.

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Take a chill pill and think again. They are buying Gold and Bitcoin now, so they are doing what you wanted earlier no? What is the problem then? And you are thinking too much, there is nothing like people are using their money on phones, cars, etc. but are dealing with the bills they didn't pay during whole covid period, they are buying and stocking food for themselves and their family. They should get out to earn, if they will not earn, who will help their family to survive?

No need sweating it this hard member, the world is going through what i understand to be termed as the end of an era, with the current global public health issue businesses and the economy of many nations are trembling so hard. Bitcoin and cryptocurrency has since shown a positive response as a reliable store of value that the world can seamlessly rely on. Being into cryptocurrency right now i would say is a rare privileged, lets be Bitcoin evangelist but we do not have to sweat on it while trying to help anyone get the picture.

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1. Approximately 57 percent of all children in the United States are living in homes that are either considered to be either “low income” or impoverished.
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2. More than 25 percent of all U.S. children have a chronic health condition that affects their ability to learn. Perhaps we should not be feeling them so much junk food.
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3. In 2011, SAT scores for young men were the worst that they had been in 40 years.
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4. The average young American will spend 10,000 hours playing video games before the age of 21.
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8. Only 26 percent of Oklahoma high school students know what the first ten amendments to the U.S. Constitution are called.
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9. Only 10 percent of Oklahoma high school students know how many justices sit on the Supreme Court.

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10. At this point, 15-year-olds that attend U.S. public schools do not even rank in the top half of all industrialized nations when it comes to math or science literacy.

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13. The average American drinks more than 600 sodas every single year. That is by far the most in the world.
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15. In America today, many families allow the television to raise their children. In fact, the United States is tied with the U.K. for the most hours of television watched per person each week.
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26. Today, one out of every four American children is on food stamps.
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27. It is being projected that approximately 50 percent of all U.S. children will be on food stamps at some point in their lives before they reach the age of 18.
28. As I have written about previously, approximately 42 percent of all single mothers in the United States are on food stamps.
29. According to the National Center for Children in Poverty, 36.4 percent of all children that live in Philadelphia are living in poverty, 40.1 percent of all children that live in Atlanta are living in poverty, 52.6 percent of all children that live in Cleveland are living in poverty and 53.6 percent of all children that live in Detroit are living in poverty.
30. It is estimated that up to half a million children may currently be homeless in the United States.
31. It is estimated that child homelessness in the United States has risen by 33 percent since 2007.
32. Right now, approximately 25 million American adults are living with their parents.
33. Law enforcement officials estimate that about 600,000 Americans and about 65,000 Canadians are trading dirty child pictures online.
34. The average high school boy spends two hours watching pornography every single week.
35. An astounding 30 percent of all Internet traffic now goes to pornography websites, and the U.S. producesmore pornography than any other nation has in the history of the world.
36. In the United States today, 47 percent of all high school students have had sex.
37. One out of every four teen girls in the United States now has an STD.
38. The United States has the highest teen pregnancy rate on the entire planet by a wide margin.
39. One survey found that one out of every five teen girls actually wants to be a teen mom.
40. We have borrowed 16 trillion dollars that we expect future generations to repay. We have consigned our children and our grandchildren to a lifetime of debt slavery and they don’t even realize it yet. When they do realize what we have done to them they will probably curse us bitterly.

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December 28, 2020, 01:35:45 PM
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If there's something new to you, will you engage on it immediately if it doesn't really interests you?

As yourself that question first before you complain about those people who are not listening to you.

We have different kind of mindset when it comes in life, we don't have the same point of view towards investment, success, source of profits, and etc. Try to understand that not all people can understand how bitcoin works and if they don't appreciate that then nothing will happen.

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December 28, 2020, 01:59:54 PM
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That is how real-life works. You can blame the people for not investing in bitcoin or gold. They are simply being manipulated by the government and society in a way they can not even realize. We are the pioneers in this field and it is not necessary to enlighten them if they are too ignorant. Just ignore them and use bitcoin as much as you can. Soon, when bitcoin becomes a part of this magnificent world, they have to change their perspective and when it comes, it will be too late for them to buy even 0.1 bitcoin

I have engaged with many types of people and who do not like to use bitcoin will never ever use bitcoin

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December 28, 2020, 02:18:58 PM
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But look at them in the online world.
They talk like they know everything while in truth they have succumbed to the "I do not care" motto.   Grin

You should not force yourself into making them change.
You have done your part and they didn't listen. Might as well relax now and just enjoy it while they are still on their way to progress. Or not.

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December 28, 2020, 02:44:09 PM
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maybe they don't want to listen to you because they already know it and you are just exaggerating everything. for example COVID19 is a crisis but it is nowhere near being the biggest one.
besides majority of people want to live in denial as much as they can, it may not be full denial all the time of everything but at least most of the times. otherwise they can't go on living their lives.

There is a FOMO brewing...
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December 28, 2020, 02:49:49 PM
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You don't need to explain your self just to make other people believe in you they have their own mind and decision in life , let them what they want to do . No one will understand you If in the first place they don't want to listened . Let them see it to happen so they can decide on thier own ,no need for more explanation you are just wasting your time and energy to the person that you know will not listen to you.
Yeah, definitely. And in addition to that, just focus on your life as well. If what you are telling them turns out to be right and they did not listen to you, then it's not your loss anymore. It's theirs and it's their fault. I'm sure you know the saying "you can't please everyone". You just can't. We all have our decisions in life and pushing everyone to listen to what you're saying would be a complete waste of time and energy if they are not showing even the slightest interest to hear you out.

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December 28, 2020, 02:57:20 PM
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I can’t believe all of them are so stubborn just like trump!!

Despite all the very obvious hints of crisis coming!

I told them market crash will be back in 2017/2018! They deny it

I told them to save themselves they need to grab gold in 2017/2018! They deny it

I told them they need to sell everything they have in FIAT and get bitcoin! They deny it

I told them covid is the biggest crisis ever! They still deny it

I dunno what to say about the people in REAL WORLD! It is over they’re too deep into the denial, they can’t tell they’re in dipshit and never want to change and even listen to one of my advice! I hate to convince the people in real world, they’re dumb just like politician, they’re so stubborn, and the stubborn on the wrong reason!

They go to work, they go to spend all their money on latest phone games car everything, they continue to punting in stock market, they continue to call me an idiot that know nothing but spreading fud, they continue to don’t buy bitcoin and gold, even to this day, I can’t convince them at all, they block me and ban me, they totally unfriend me on contact list, idk, they’re too stubborn, they are just unreachable to me, it’s over! Everything is over, this real world is over!
This I think is exaggeration. Economic crisis is anticipated if there is an existing problem affecting the economies of not only one, but majority of the countries. And to how I vew things at this moment, economies are slowly crawling back to its state before this pandemic. I am in contrast with selling everything in Fiat. Why? Fiat is a currency existing for years already and a decentralized currency won't aid economic problems knowing that taxes are playing a huge role for the economy. Covid is the biggest crisis? I doubt. There are signs of recovery invalidating this statement. A huge crisis would pull down economies at its lowest and I don't want to see that, more likely governments as well so they will always try to aid the problem. Nothing is over yet. Problems are normal to experience and the only way out is to fight through it.

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December 28, 2020, 03:16:25 PM
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You don't need to explain your self just to make other people believe in you they have their own mind and decision in life , let them what they want to do . No one will understand you If in the first place they don't want to listened . Let them see it to happen so they can decide on thier own ,no need for more explanation you are just wasting your time and energy to the person that you know will not listen to you.

That's right! You can't force someone to believe what other people are saying. We have our own life, own problems to deal everyday. It is up to the person how he will live his life. So just mind your own business and maybe, the OP will not stress himself with what is happening around him. Let the people take care of their own business.
Indeed. Dealing and making this kind of argument will not end because not everybody in this world will listen to you, so OP is definitely wasting his energy and time on them. He should just do other things that will help him gain money and give him a good life, and let it be because everyone has their own decision and destiny in life.

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Maybe you can explain to those who understand and are interested in your thinking first. Because without equality of wants and needs, it may be difficult to explain to others what you think. When it is in line, then you can explain in detail why your opinion is worthy of being followed. You also need to prove to them what you say is true on the basis of science, and practice in the field. You need people who think your equal to win their hearts.

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That’s simply impossible task mate, they’re completely Pavlov Dogged to the point they become numb, market crash come back every ten years I’d said it again next would be 2028-2030 this is a event of guaranteed happening there is all the social economical reason the crisis strike, because gender behaviour is based on this cycle and that this cycle just work like a cult mentality and market then crash, a market that work based on ponzi and printed money, a bubble popping in ten years it’s well known to them they just won’t take action, blasphemy, completely over for the Real World, the Pavlovian theory perfect example.


I don't understand what your real purpose is to remind them. If your goal really sincerely saves them from the bad possibilities that you think of, then there is no way that I offer you will consider it impossible. Nothing is impossible in this world except death. Even people with disabilities like Nick Vujicic can do whatever normal people do. You complain too easily and think about what other people suggest is impossible. Even so easily you declare a human who rejects you like "Pavlov dog". Don't confuse human behavior with dog behavior. Humans have intellect whereas dogs just follow instincts. The human mind is not as simple as dog behavior as Pavlov's theory. If you are a Pavlov follower, perhaps your behavior is the same as in the experiment. Don't yell at other people, if you never have the same needs and wants as that person. You don't even know what that person actually thinks, other people have their own way of thinking. If you impose your thinking, match your needs, and wants with others first.
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December 28, 2020, 03:57:25 PM
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I think this is all very easy to answer, why do they deny what you say? although they are all proven truths.
The fact is on your own, where is your role to them how important? You have to think about it, before advising them, because what they see is not what you say, but what you say is not necessarily what they see what you do.

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December 28, 2020, 04:26:16 PM
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they’re too stubborn, they are just unreachable to me, it’s over! Everything is over, this real world is over!

The world is not over just because some of your friends don't want to buy gold nor bitcoin in current condition, people have been struggling to maintain their life during the Pandemic, buying bitcoin and gold is out of the question, they have to buy basic daily needs to survive. Economic conditions in every country may be different let alone different continents, so we can't expect everyone to agree with our opinion. As long as you have told them and give the advice to buy bitcoin, then your role is over if they don't want to involve.
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If there's something new to you, will you engage on it immediately if it doesn't really interests you?  As yourself that question first before you complain about those people who are not listening to you.  We have different kind of mindset when it comes in life, we don't have the same point of view towards investment, success, source of profits, and etc. Try to understand that not all people can understand how bitcoin works and if they don't appreciate that then nothing will happen.
 

===  They just fall into the trap of divide and conquer setup by government propaganda, that’s making their mind screwed up, yup the purpose of politician is to screwed up your mind and confuse, mind manipulation, emotionally forcing your brain to give up your life by amending laws that contradictory to laws of natural , become political and economical output unconsciously and destroying themselves to advocate divide and conquer.
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That is how real-life works. You can blame the people for not investing in bitcoin or gold. They are simply being manipulated by the government and society in a way they can not even realize. We are the pioneers in this field and it is not necessary to enlighten them if they are too ignorant. Just ignore them and use bitcoin as much as you can. Soon, when bitcoin becomes a part of this magnificent world, they have to change their perspective and when it comes, it will be too late for them to buy even 0.1 bitcoin   I have engaged with many types of people and who do not like to use bitcoin will never ever use bitcoin
 

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This is how gender role work, one gender is progressive, the other gender is regressive, and we can see it clearly today (although many refuse to acknowledge and prefer universal gender) , it isn’t so obvious in the past, the more we progress the more we begin to understand a Martian and Venusian laws, and it’s not a mistake it’s a product by designed, some take advantage of this gender role, some not knowingly and denying this gender role, some decide to suppress and invalid the gender role theory,  if it was 20 or so years ago, no much people would argue to death for some of this very simple facts.


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People who are stubborn are hard to conquer. We have tried to explain to invest in Bitcoin, but they ignore it and tend to think negatively. They remain steadfast in their stance. If it's like this, just ignore it, don't interfere with their business anymore.
Yes, the right solution is to ignore him and never interfere with his life again, because if one day he needs what we have suggested, then he will come to us himself to ask questions, because that stubborn person is not a suitable person to give advice.

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Ignoring, that’s what government shill want you to do, divide and conquer start by being ignorant, ignoring person hating each other while the guy at the top watching you all fight to death on the top and munching their pop corn, when more and more people decide to get into mental war setup by the government shill, they just give into the divide and conquer trap. Be grateful people are willing to leak information unconditionally, government hate those leakers and would not hesitate to send them to injustice.

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But look at them in the online world.  They talk like they know everything while in truth they have succumbed to the "I do not care" motto.   Grin  You should not force yourself into making them change.  You have done your part and they didn't listen. Might as well relax now and just enjoy it while they are still on their way to progress. Or not.    

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That’s precisely what’s happening, and that’s would be no surprising they’re gonna living a hateful life, by design, by societal programming them into submission into poverty, one should never give up their monetary right to a entity such as bank, despite they would have know all of them yet they’re confused all thank to years and decade of social programming in the favour on government shill, anything that’s open debate would be take down and censored, and government shill would never be taken down not in the entire life time a government shill is not subject to censorship and taken it illegally. Yup bipolar are becoming norms in real life, they’re all a crazy person in online, but in real life they’re normal person who are fearful of breaking human amended laws.
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December 28, 2020, 10:55:28 PM
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maybe they don't want to listen to you because they already know it and you are just exaggerating everything. for example COVID19 is a crisis but it is nowhere near being the biggest one.
besides majority of people want to live in denial as much as they can, it may not be full denial all the time of everything but at least most of the times. otherwise they can't go on living their lives.

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This I think is exaggeration. Economic crisis is anticipated if there is an existing problem affecting the economies of not only one, but majority of the countries. And to how I vew things at this moment, economies are slowly crawling back to its state before this pandemic. I am in contrast with selling everything in Fiat. Why? Fiat is a currency existing for years already and a decentralized currency won't aid economic problems knowing that taxes are playing a huge role for the economy. Covid is the biggest crisis? I doubt. There are signs of recovery invalidating this statement. A huge crisis would pull down economies at its lowest and I don't want to see that, more likely governments as well so they will always try to aid the problem. Nothing is over yet. Problems are normal to experience and the only way out is to fight through it.

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Maybe you can explain to those who understand and are interested in your thinking first. Because without equality of wants and needs, it may be difficult to explain to others what you think. When it is in line, then you can explain in detail why your opinion is worthy of being followed. You also need to prove to them what you say is true on the basis of science, and practice in the field. You need people who think your equal to win their hearts.

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I don't understand what your real purpose is to remind them. If your goal really sincerely saves them from the bad possibilities that you think of, then there is no way that I offer you will consider it impossible. Nothing is impossible in this world except death. Even people with disabilities like Nick Vujicic can do whatever normal people do. You complain too easily and think about what other people suggest is impossible. Even so easily you declare a human who rejects you like "Pavlov dog". Don't confuse human behavior with dog behavior. Humans have intellect whereas dogs just follow instincts. The human mind is not as simple as dog behavior as Pavlov's theory. If you are a Pavlov follower, perhaps your behavior is the same as in the experiment. Don't yell at other people, if you never have the same needs and wants as that person. You don't even know what that person actually thinks, other people have their own way of thinking. If you impose your thinking, match your needs, and wants with others first.

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Pavlov Dog is an instance to wake up, it’s not design to insult anybody, and yup it’s how human learning work, they would live on denial as long as possible until a Pavlov Dog wake them up with a RUDE and savage awakening.

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I think this is all very easy to answer, why do they deny what you say? although they are all proven truths.
The fact is on your own, where is your role to them how important? You have to think about it, before advising them, because what they see is not what you say, but what you say is not necessarily what they see what you do.
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Divide and conquer has take it toll, it’s taking everybody unconsciously, yup many can’t see that coming they’re a victim of divide and conquer without even noticing it.

It’s surprisingly easy to divide and conquer all REAL LIFE people with just human language, the bank has proven it over and over again, Pavlov Dog work surprisingly well and extremely easy, years to decades of Pavlov Dogging has finally create a society of bipolar disorders where nearly every Real Life human are bipolar and advocating divide and conquer.

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The world is not over just because some of your friends don't want to buy gold nor bitcoin in current condition, people have been struggling to maintain their life during the Pandemic, buying bitcoin and gold is out of the question, they have to buy basic daily needs to survive. Economic conditions in every country may be different let alone different continents, so we can't expect everyone to agree with our opinion. As long as you have told them and give the advice to buy bitcoin, then your role is over if they don't want to involve.

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The number of stubborn people are in proportionate with the trump followers on SNS, currently sitting on ten of millions and counting, DUMB people everywhere even on the online world, and they take it on the road to impress everybody they’re just like trump, dumb as a stone.

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December 29, 2020, 04:55:42 AM
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I told them covid is the biggest crisis ever! They still deny it
First of all, you're not like Warren Buffett or anything close to it I believe.
Why would people listen to you exclusively?
I don't imply that you're somewhat wrong, I simply agree with all your statements because they're truthful.
But those people who don't even consider buying crypto won't listen to any random (or even close relative) who suggest to buy some.
Thats psychology, not investment issue.
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The worst part of a forum is anyone can pretend to be who they're not so it's most recommendable, proofs are giving to whatever you claim to have done. If you claim you did all you have highlighted on the OP can you post proofs and preferable they should be on the OP, so there won't be any cause for doubting you. Don't misunderstand my statement as I'm not trying to say you didn't do any of the things you listed but you don't expect us to just take your word for it and believe whatever you say.

Anyways, all you have said isn't different from what others are saying like the like of Robert kiyosaki and other top enthusiast that has been constantly preaching the gospel of buying bitcoin, gold and silver or whatever alternative to the fiat system to their massive followers since the fiat has failed and just a fraud waiting to crash.

Be grateful as you saw the light (bitcoin) as it isn't easy out there, those that haven't seen the light are getting decieve daily by the government, giving them fake assurance of everything been ok. They're been brainwashed into believing whatever the government tells them. They think so because they're been told so.

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December 30, 2020, 03:31:32 PM
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The worst part of a forum is anyone can pretend to be who they're not so it's most recommendable, proofs are giving to whatever you claim to have done. If you claim you did all you have highlighted on the OP can you post proofs and preferable they should be on the OP, so there won't be any cause for doubting you. Don't misunderstand my statement as I'm not trying to say you didn't do any of the things you listed but you don't expect us to just take your word for it and believe whatever you say.

Anyways, all you have said isn't different from what others are saying like the like of Robert kiyosaki and other top enthusiast that has been constantly preaching the gospel of buying bitcoin, gold and silver or whatever alternative to the fiat system to their massive followers since the fiat has failed and just a fraud waiting to crash.

Be grateful as you saw the light (bitcoin) as it isn't easy out there, those that haven't seen the light are getting decieve daily by the government, giving them fake assurance of everything been ok. They're been brainwashed into believing whatever the government tells them. They think so because they're been told so.

Pretending to be someone? What’s the point to pretend knowingly it would hurt themselves in the end are they loss their mind to some dark magic and now trying to pretending to be some psycho and amputated themselves, fine there is people who can’t learn quickly and often time they’re always left behind on life, some mate who are just poor at school and having poor grade and illiterate, but nope I don’t give a damn with them who is too dumb and can’t learn quickly, most of them are highly educated and know thing very well, but refuse to do something and pretend thing is fine, that does make them equally dumb just like those dropout illiterate poor grade leftover guy, it’s amusing.

Anyway I dunno what you think about Robert Kiyosaki and some other best seller book writer, I know they’re selling a dozen of books but I had only read one or two of them, most of them are very old books and rarely updated to accommodate to younger readers, I have no idea what’s their intention on bitcoin except for some quick profit, some call it is a digital gold idk they’re just some gold bug that would shill anything as long as it has “gold” labelled on itself.

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December 30, 2020, 04:56:18 PM
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You cannot please everyone to believe the things you say because they also have their own beliefs and perspective. Especially in this kind of topic like bitcoin because they need to understand first before believing. I don't know to whom you are telling those things, are they your family and friends? Because if it's just random people, then it will be really hard to convince them. But instead of getting angry or pissed at people that don't believe you, maybe you can just focus on those people who are interested and willing to listen to you.
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That is because most people that you are talking about has this privilege of having a good life while most people within the streets are living with a mediocre life in which they really need to thrive for something so that they can live. The reason for this can fall on two things, themselves or the government. People really do not think that government is part of their problem but the government can help greatly or affect you greatly by their decisions so we really should think about our government. People should also think about their privilege when talking about things that are sensitive since not everyone is equal.

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I dunno what to say about the people in REAL WORLD! It is over they’re too deep into the denial, they can’t tell they’re in dipshit and never want to change and even listen to one of my advice! I hate to convince the people in real world, they’re dumb just like politician, they’re so stubborn, and the stubborn on the wrong reason!

They go to work, they go to spend all their money on latest phone games car everything, they continue to punting in stock market, they continue to call me an idiot that know nothing but spreading fud, they continue to don’t buy bitcoin and gold, even to this day, I can’t convince them at all, they block me and ban me, they totally unfriend me on contact list, idk, they’re too stubborn, they are just unreachable to me, it’s over! Everything is over, this real world is over!
It seems like you’re pissed, and you’re the one that’s confused here, you’re getting it wrong. You shouldn’t mind what they are doing, what they have to do is none of your business, they are still surviving. I am investing in Bitcoin, and a lot of my friends knows about Bitcoin but they are not investing in it, and it’s not like they are in poverty for not investing in it, no they are not.

As a matter of fact, these people have so much more money than I do, they have set up good businesses that are making steady income for them, so whether Bitcoin or no Bitcoin, they are good and they are living their life. It’s even much better to have a good business, you can’t rely all the time on Bitcoin. It’s their choice, don’t stress over it, if you see an opportunity for yourself, you should go ahead and invest in Bitcoin, just because others you know are not doing the same thing as you doesn’t mean they are in ‘dipshit’ as you said.

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December 30, 2020, 07:01:49 PM
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Everything is fine cause all people in the world doesn't think same way. People have different plan for running their life. The whole world will never agree with same thing. Everyone have different taste, lifestyle, thoughts. So you can never combine the whole world with your choice. Why you think everyone should listen to you? People won't listen to your words unless they get any practical prove. So, show other how much worth bitcion is, how serious covid pandemic is. If you can do it correctly then they will listen to you. Bitcoin have done really well but still it have far way to go.

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December 30, 2020, 07:26:13 PM
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We can't please everyone or even force them to have the same belief and principles as we do. We're dealing with different situations and we have different mindsets. You have a point but people around you won't think the same way and they will surely decide on what they believe in and that's the real essence of freewill. We can't blame them if they don't grab the opportunities that we know are profitable because we're living in the same world yet we all live life in different ways.
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Exposure brings us to light, that's what bitcoin has done. This is why we are pretty different from the rest of the people in the outside world.
We once never knew about bitcoin but the recent development on decentralisation and crypto is an eye-opening for you and me that's we always see the wrongs earlier from ordinary people. If bitcoin could survive with just a decade to attain these prices, there is more exposure to experience.
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You shouldn't think about problems so that you will not worry anything just make or create things that can make you happy so that you will not get stressed by the problems of the world, There are so many positive sides that needed to take care of and that can benefit our growth or maybe to the others if we spread positivity.

Happy new year to all.

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I can’t believe all of them are so stubborn just like trump!!

Despite all the very obvious hints of crisis coming!

I told them market crash will be back in 2017/2018! They deny it

I told them to save themselves they need to grab gold in 2017/2018! They deny it

I told them they need to sell everything they have in FIAT and get bitcoin! They deny it

I told them covid is the biggest crisis ever! They still deny it

I dunno what to say about the people in REAL WORLD! It is over they’re too deep into the denial, they can’t tell they’re in dipshit and never want to change and even listen to one of my advice! I hate to convince the people in real world, they’re dumb just like politician, they’re so stubborn, and the stubborn on the wrong reason!

They go to work, they go to spend all their money on latest phone games car everything, they continue to punting in stock market, they continue to call me an idiot that know nothing but spreading fud, they continue to don’t buy bitcoin and gold, even to this day, I can’t convince them at all, they block me and ban me, they totally unfriend me on contact list, idk, they’re too stubborn, they are just unreachable to me, it’s over! Everything is over, this real world is over!

In my opinion, changing the worldview of other people is not the best thing to do.  Many of my friends and acquaintances hope to return to the world before a pandemic in the future.  They hope that everything will be the same.  Travel, hugs, office work, etc.

However, I am not a dreamer, I am a pragmatist.  2020 is the beginning of the global transformation of human society.  The real world will largely be replaced by virtual reality.  The dollar will finally lose its status as a world reserve currency.

I do not even exclude the re-creation of the caste structure of society.  The first step towards this is to divide all people into vaccinated and refused vaccines.  These two categories of people will have different civil rights.  Over time, there will be more such castes.  Some people will have more rights, while others will have much less.

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You cannot please everyone to believe the things you say because they also have their own beliefs and perspective. Especially in this kind of topic like bitcoin because they need to understand first before believing. I don't know to whom you are telling those things, are they your family and friends? Because if it's just random people, then it will be really hard to convince them. But instead of getting angry or pissed at people that don't believe you, maybe you can just focus on those people who are interested and willing to listen to you.

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That is because most people that you are talking about has this privilege of having a good life while most people within the streets are living with a mediocre life in which they really need to thrive for something so that they can live. The reason for this can fall on two things, themselves or the government. People really do not think that government is part of their problem but the government can help greatly or affect you greatly by their decisions so we really should think about our government. People should also think about their privilege when talking about things that are sensitive since not everyone is equal.

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Yeah, I hope they really enjoy their life like what they tell me their hand are full of work and they’re living their life to the fullest and they’re striking their dream life their American dream is living inside them everyday and it’s getting inspiring, btw what is American dream?

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It seems like you’re pissed, and you’re the one that’s confused here, you’re getting it wrong. You shouldn’t mind what they are doing, what they have to do is none of your business, they are still surviving. I am investing in Bitcoin, and a lot of my friends knows about Bitcoin but they are not investing in it, and it’s not like they are in poverty for not investing in it, no they are not.

As a matter of fact, these people have so much more money than I do, they have set up good businesses that are making steady income for them, so whether Bitcoin or no Bitcoin, they are good and they are living their life. It’s even much better to have a good business, you can’t rely all the time on Bitcoin. It’s their choice, don’t stress over it, if you see an opportunity for yourself, you should go ahead and invest in Bitcoin, just because others you know are not doing the same thing as you doesn’t mean they are in ‘dipshit’ as you said.

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Yup it’s great to have a passive income coming everyday and have a happy life, the pandemics has change a shitload of normal life within just a few months, many people loss their good business that generate passive income, many people pay check get severely reduced, I think everybody get impacted by this pandemics how can I assume there is one lucky guy that didn’t? Pandemics strike the entire world, nobody escape this great crisis, all people would have to change their life, even some wild life has to change their life due to this pandemics, that’s how crazy thing are going on. But they think it’s fine, what’s the problem huh?

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In my opinion, changing the worldview of other people is not the best thing to do.  Many of my friends and acquaintances hope to return to the world before a pandemic in the future.  They hope that everything will be the same.  Travel, hugs, office work, etc.

However, I am not a dreamer, I am a pragmatist.  2020 is the beginning of the global transformation of human society.  The real world will largely be replaced by virtual reality.  The dollar will finally lose its status as a world reserve currency.

I do not even exclude the re-creation of the caste structure of society.  The first step towards this is to divide all people into vaccinated and refused vaccines.  These two categories of people will have different civil rights.  Over time, there will be more such castes.  Some people will have more rights, while others will have much less.

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That sound like some scary future, I’m watching some government has deploy social credit score system, which is a vr system tracking every citizen social score in real time, and would use the score to judge a person of it’s social status, that seem to be going to replace the old merits system that based on policing citizen life with manual book keeping.

Nope I’m not ready to accept this new world order.

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January 02, 2021, 06:08:20 AM
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Sad truth, indeed. Most people seems to be so relax and complacent enough to ignore all the possible things that might occur. Ignoring things, signs and warnings are the worst kind of behavior that we humans have. When all the worst scenario occurred, they will end up blaming the Governments and pointing fingers at each other...regrets will always comes at the end. On the other hand, you did your part on reminding and giving precautions or warning, its their fault not to believe in you. Its not your loss, don't feel sorry for these hard-headed people. Somehow, they will realize and thanked you for all your unsolicited advices and warnings. If they ignored you, leave them that way. In this time of trying, of uncertainties and losses, we must focus to be productive with safety precautions. Focus on improving yourself and preparing for the worst. Stay away from the people who thoughts negative against you. Have a healthy, safe and blessed new year friend!
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January 02, 2021, 06:36:17 AM
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who are you telling all of that ? your friends virtually and on the real world ? there could be something wrong with them because theres so many events that you predicted right and still they wlnt believe in you but forget those kind of friends , you still have this forum . you still have us your real true friends that will listen to you but its also normal that other users here will hate you and talk negative on what your saying , you can forget them too . in this world that were living theres always a hater on everything
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OP's experience seems to be seen on a daily basis. People still think we're okay. The economy is running, there is no worry, there is no rush for some. As things are it is better not to worry too much, try to do your best because life goes on.

Thanks for the opportunity we had to know about Bitcoin, now we are living a great moment.
Bitcoiners are the participants in the momentum of the digital economy, we have managed to convince that Bitcoin is the way to forge a future.

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People are going missing!! Tycoon going missing!! It is totally fine! All the people in the real world do not care at all, after all just another tycoon and their little cats and mouses game! Nothing of value has lost, life goes on! Trump is going missing next??

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People are going missing!! Tycoon going missing!! It is totally fine! All the people in the real world do not care at all, after all just another tycoon and their little cats and mouses game! Nothing of value has lost, life goes on! Trump is going missing next??
Everyone is here to live their own life so if someone is going missing they might give a like and share or just retweet on social media that is what someone can care about someone who was/is successful, even those successful people worked for themselves and made them into rich not any others.

The mission of turning man into machine has been accomplished. Everybody just work like machine, the dues ex machina, disposal upon failure and nothing of value was lost, a tycoon is not spared too, another machina has just failed, terminating tycoon are in the line, ready to execution. It’s completely fine.

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Even if you want it so much, you can't prevent the crisis. Just try to avoid the dramatic consequences for you and be less pushy while talking to your friends about Bitcoin.

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January 07, 2021, 12:44:38 PM
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Why you're giving these people too much concern? We cant force anyone to have the same mindset as we are, they have their own way of thinking and its none of our business.

Dont be affected if someone is not listening to what you're saying. If they are not interested then so be it, you did your part of convincing them for what you think is good or can help them to overcome those problems in real world but we have no right to coerce them.

So better to mind your own business because if you're right they will come to you to seek advice/help.

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I can’t believe all of them are so stubborn just like trump!!

Despite all the very obvious hints of crisis coming!

I told them market crash will be back in 2017/2018! They deny it

I told them to save themselves they need to grab gold in 2017/2018! They deny it

I told them they need to sell everything they have in FIAT and get bitcoin! They deny it

I told them covid is the biggest crisis ever! They still deny it

I dunno what to say about the people in REAL WORLD! It is over they’re too deep into the denial, they can’t tell they’re in dipshit and never want to change and even listen to one of my advice! I hate to convince the people in real world, they’re dumb just like politician, they’re so stubborn, and the stubborn on the wrong reason!

They go to work, they go to spend all their money on latest phone games car everything, they continue to punting in stock market, they continue to call me an idiot that know nothing but spreading fud, they continue to don’t buy bitcoin and gold, even to this day, I can’t convince them at all, they block me and ban me, they totally unfriend me on contact list, idk, they’re too stubborn, they are just unreachable to me, it’s over! Everything is over, this real world is over!

I think for them to believe someone you need to break some valid information supporting your claims. I believe you are lacking the definitive information to make them believe your claims. They would surely base it on number and statistics wise.



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This is what interesting about people, sometimes they reject good things and accept bad things. Because we can't force other people to change
and follow what we think is good. Therefore, there is no need to stress if other people do not want to listen to your advice. Let them do what
they want, the most important thing is your job to convey your opinion has been done. The problem is other people want to believe it or not,
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Is this a US thing?

I talk about the world Situation with friends and family here in Europe, Germany all the time and they agree with me that we're screwed.
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This is what interesting about people, sometimes they reject good things and accept bad things.

The thing is, you dont know which is good and which is bad for yourself. Take a look at bitcoin's new ATH, is it a good thing for me? Yes it is because I hold some but is it a bad thing for my friends that dont own any bitcoin? No it is not. Most of my friends put their money on gold while I dont and it is not a bad thing for me either

As long as you are content with your life then it is good enough.

Trump is going missing next??

Jack Ma is missing or probably lying low for months now

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People are going missing!! Tycoon going missing!! It is totally fine! All the people in the real world do not care at all, after all just another tycoon and their little cats and mouses game! Nothing of value has lost, life goes on! Trump is going missing next??
Dude you can't let yourself go, I can understand your pain, I understand that you are seeing the world not going the direction it should go, there are tooooo many things in life that is going bad and you want to save the whole planet if you can, but you are not capable because you lack the power to do so, and that makes you feel sad. However you can't shut yourself in your house and just cry all day, I would love to do that too but you can't just do that, that way you will not be helping anyone and world will still be horrible.

Just go out there, keep grinding, keep trying to better yourself without stopping, keep warning people even if they do not listen, keep trying to hope for the best that maybe one person may listen. I personally joined some groups to help with starvation and child sickness for example, it takes a bit of your time and effort but to see that you are helping the world getting a better place even tiny bit makes you feel a lot better.

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January 08, 2021, 08:43:18 AM
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I can’t believe all of them are so stubborn just like trump!!

Despite all the very obvious hints of crisis coming!

I told them market crash will be back in 2017/2018! They deny it

I told them to save themselves they need to grab gold in 2017/2018! They deny it

I told them they need to sell everything they have in FIAT and get bitcoin! They deny it

I told them covid is the biggest crisis ever! They still deny it

I dunno what to say about the people in REAL WORLD! It is over they’re too deep into the denial, they can’t tell they’re in dipshit and never want to change and even listen to one of my advice! I hate to convince the people in real world, they’re dumb just like politician, they’re so stubborn, and the stubborn on the wrong reason!

They go to work, they go to spend all their money on latest phone games car everything, they continue to punting in stock market, they continue to call me an idiot that know nothing but spreading fud, they continue to don’t buy bitcoin and gold, even to this day, I can’t convince them at all, they block me and ban me, they totally unfriend me on contact list, idk, they’re too stubborn, they are just unreachable to me, it’s over! Everything is over, this real world is over!

Majority are indeed stubborn and skeptical with the advices given to them. Perhaps it is because they are just being cautious or they aren’t knowledgeable enough about the topic you are introducing to them. In addition, people have different preferences especially with regards on where they want to save and invest their money. You may prefer bitcoin and gold, while some may prefer to invest their hard earned money to real estates and stock market. These are personal decisions which we have no right to meddle with. We can always give advices and we can guide them, but it is still up to them to decide.

Regarding the pandemic, there are really many people who aren’t convinced enough that virus is indeed infectious and contagious that can lead to death. There are many people who are thinking it is just a mere social-construct being taken advantage of by those who are in position and has power. We can always educate them and feed them factual information. We can give them verified sources such as researches and articles. However, if they stand firm on what they believe in, our voices won’t move them on their ground. We cannot force what we believe in to other people opposing our beliefs. Changing sides is a process. They’ll soon realize and figure it on their own. After all, they’re already full-grown adults and everything is readily available through Internet.

Again, this just boils down on different people having different preferences, priorities, and thinking. To you, it might be worthless to buy a new gadget such as new laptop, but for some it is a good investment (as long as they generate profit for using the gadget). I guess we just really have to mind our own businesses and stop on interfering with others lives as long as their activities don’t pose any risk to our overall welfare.
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January 09, 2021, 04:09:20 AM
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Even if you want it so much, you can't prevent the crisis. Just try to avoid the dramatic consequences for you and be less pushy while talking to your friends about Bitcoin.

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I’m fascinated many people would still dismiss crisis even today, they would tell you market are going vertically, everything is fine, there is no market turmoils, get back to work, and no excuse you can counter their non sense, yup the economics data is full of “positive development”, they continue to collude with economics data, and there is nothing they will believe.

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Why you're giving these people too much concern? We cant force anyone to have the same mindset as we are, they have their own way of thinking and its none of our business.

Dont be affected if someone is not listening to what you're saying. If they are not interested then so be it, you did your part of convincing them for what you think is good or can help them to overcome those problems in real world but we have no right to coerce them.

So better to mind your own business because if you're right they will come to you to seek advice/help.

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Well, if your friends ever come to you and talk about investments, what’re you going to do? I don’t believe nobody would never care about finance, they would get panic at certain point of life and clueless of what to do, but then what would we do? What we do then is the very crucial moment because many people missed the chance to buy into best investment ever due to ignorance, many people missed the commodity boom, gold boom, bitcoin boom, all of these are the key to protect themselves, it’s not solely about getting rich.

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I think for them to believe someone you need to break some valid information supporting your claims. I believe you are lacking the definitive information to make them believe your claims. They would surely base it on number and statistics wise.

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The way to get bitcoin or gold is (1) mine it (2) buy it from open market, I had told them but they’re still refuse to do it and picking on their low price and not worth the effort, they dislike them for low return, then they proceed to boost their compound gain of some of the investment they make blah blah blah... I think they’re bs, and it’s pointless to convince them at all.

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January 09, 2021, 05:31:30 AM
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this way, if you talk to the same person who understands the crypto market, it will be easy to convince you because you already know that the crypto market is volatile, and there is a chance to increase many times, now here's an example. but for those people in general who don't know crypto, surely you will give up convincing them. because this is an online investment, after all there is no office or authority to handle this and if there is a criminal incident, this cannot yet be reported anywhere. So, I think it would be wise if you talk to the crypto environment only, so you don't feel that you are nonsense.
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January 09, 2021, 07:32:32 AM
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There are simple answer why they deny it. Because for the majority of people everything is more or less fine. They dont feel "fiat death", they dont see this incredible crisis. They just live as usual
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