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January 01, 2021, 07:10:23 AM
Last edit: January 03, 2021, 06:37:03 AM by eli113
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at first i can say i have no interest to create or invest on any gambling related bussines
the reason i post this is because i need better games to waste my leisure time

welcome all of you to post ideas as the title suggests
if i see a little response i will post my ideas and discuss yours

HAPPY NEW YEAR 2021  Grin

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update 1 : thank you for more than little response !
                of course i will share my ideas , new years eve today so lets say tomorrow ?



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January 01, 2021, 07:36:32 AM
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at first i can say i have no interest to create or invest on any gambling related bussines
the reason i post this is because i need better games to waste my leisure time
^ Provably fair in poker games. It is more fun to play that game.
I don't think gambling game is a waste of time and I don't also gamble if I am not at a convenient time. Gambling for me is a form of entertainment and it is separated from my leisure time, of course, gamble in my free time will always have a good mood while I am gambling.
What's Public Domain you offer?
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January 01, 2021, 07:38:57 AM
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Everything is upon trust, every game will be termed as provably fair but one in ten try to verify it. Maybe we can create new games, but how fair this gonna be fair is unknown.

For you to waste your leisure time every gambling website have got lots and lots of games. There are sites where you can play without spending.

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January 01, 2021, 08:21:26 AM
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Everything is upon trust, every game will be termed as provably fair but one in ten try to verify it. Maybe we can create new games, but how fair this gonna be fair is unknown.
Yeah All claims to be Provably fair but when you Play ,you can't even justify the word Fairness ,But Instead it's all PROBAVLY lol.
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For you to waste your leisure time every gambling website have got lots and lots of games. There are sites where you can play without spending.
You are not spending Money but spending time so still you are spending because time is Gold.

Leisure means OP has a lot of this so Maybe Live casino is much Better than Probavly fair games.

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January 01, 2021, 08:36:19 AM
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I'd love to hear also because I can't think of a good idea, if people have some kind of idea that operators can't resist to adopt, I guess they'll not share it for free, but who knows someone with good idea will share that idea here. There's plenty of games already in our favorite crypto casinos, anyone who invested that crash game, I admire them.

Keeping an eye here, not much to share as I'm gambling mostly on sports.

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January 01, 2021, 10:04:17 AM
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at first i can say i have no interest to create or invest on any gambling related bussines
the reason i post this is because i need better games to waste my leisure time

welcome all of you to post ideas as the title suggests
if i see a little response i will post my ideas and discuss yours

HAPPY NEW YEAR 2021  Grin

whatever i may write here offered to Public Domain - Year 2021


why not share your own Idea instead? It would be good to share your idea to start the discussion instead of waiting for others to give one. and to be honest(at least for me) it is hard to think of an idea for an original gambling game. so the idea that you have would be a great starter for this discussion.

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January 01, 2021, 10:12:27 AM
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at first i can say i have no interest to create or invest on any gambling related bussines
the reason i post this is because i need better games to waste my leisure time

welcome all of you to post ideas as the title suggests
if i see a little response i will post my ideas and discuss yours

HAPPY NEW YEAR 2021  Grin

whatever i may write here offered to Public Domain - Year 2021


why not share your own Idea instead? It would be good to share your idea to start the discussion instead of waiting for others to give one. and to be honest(at least for me) it is hard to think of an idea for an original gambling game. so the idea that you have would be a great starter for this discussion.
That's Sounds funny because He's the one who asked about the Provably fair Games yet did not even Share small idea for the changes  Grin

But i'm more engaging in Sports betting nowadays and Only visit these Games when i have no good pick in Sports.

So i have nothing to share and Maybe will Look back here for the shared ideas.









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January 01, 2021, 10:20:53 AM
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As a casual gambler and fan of dice, there’s not much to ask on that facet of gambling for me. I only prove that my games are fair by checking the seed every 10 games or so. Perhaps if gambling platforms could automate that process without being too cheeky about it, ie altering something on the front end while returning differently on the back end, that would be great. Other than that, everything is good—at least for me.

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January 01, 2021, 10:25:43 AM
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why not share your own Idea instead? It would be good to share your idea to start the discussion instead of waiting for others to give one. and to be honest(at least for me) it is hard to think of an idea for an original gambling game. so the idea that you have would be a great starter for this discussion.

He would be sharing up his idea if he wont see any ideas that had been posted here shared but if we do really think that sensibly is that no one would
really share up their ideas for the tendency or possible for that good idea to be stolen.When it comes to gambling games then we do see some several
games that are quite unique and not really that common and they do really get some popularity and success to this market.
When it comes to new games then we are really looking for something that we havent able to try on this place.For someone who would able to offer that
then they might really able to get some recognition and build up popularity later on.

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January 01, 2021, 10:34:35 AM
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at first i can say i have no interest to create or invest on any gambling related bussines
the reason i post this is because i need better games to waste my leisure time

welcome all of you to post ideas as the title suggests
if i see a little response i will post my ideas and discuss yours

HAPPY NEW YEAR 2021  Grin

whatever i may write here offered to Public Domain - Year 2021


there's a lot of website that you can choose from and you may browse different website in the gambling services here in this forum. Try to browse first before spending, even it is your leisure time still it is precious so I rather advice you to research for a good one first so you can see the best website and provably fair game like as what you are looking and asking in here. Try sports betting, it is fun and challenging, I'm still learning it as well.

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January 01, 2021, 11:08:42 AM
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Maybe op wanted to gather information about what ideas will be good for next generation of provably fair games and op should change the title if wanted to gather ideas or information. If that's not the case then op should have share some ideas even if it is small or not. There are many sites that have provably fair games you can choose and start spending your leisure time.

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Maybe you need to enjoy your time for a while after playing gambling games in the last year. It helps you have a fresh mind because I am sure that you will have to do a lot of things. If you already played dice, slots, crash, poker, maybe you need to try the other gambling games such as betting on the sports, events, or just to play lottery games. If that does not help, then you really need to take a break.

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January 01, 2021, 01:21:43 PM
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at first i can say i have no interest to create or invest on any gambling related bussines
the reason i post this is because i need better games to waste my leisure time
^ Provably fair in poker games. It is more fun to play that game.
I don't think gambling game is a waste of time and I don't also gamble if I am not at a convenient time. Gambling for me is a form of entertainment and it is separated from my leisure time, of course, gamble in my free time will always have a good mood while I am gambling.
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any activity isnt a waste of time if you enjoy .

he have a free time that he want to waste and he will waste it in gambling . gambling when we dont have a free time should be avoided tho because priority or responsibility should come first before entertainment but what are those provably fair poker games ?

poker that are not online or dont have a human oponent ? but those are old and he want want new ideas to create a new provably fair game .
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January 01, 2021, 02:28:49 PM
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I've seen a step forward with provably fair games and automatic payouts conducted by smart contracts (so not only gamblers know the game is fair, but they also know that in case they win in the game, they'll definitely get their payments from the casino). However, this is done on Ethereum and requires Metamask, so it's not very user-friendly which is why I think this idea is not popular even though it's been around for years.
Op, do share your ideas if you have them.

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January 01, 2021, 02:57:45 PM
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Any problem on provably fair like SHA-256?

IMO, even there has some new provably fair in the end the casino will always win because they have a house edge in the long term they will be always profitable. I believe thing kind of issue/discussion most of them came when they losing a feeling cheated.

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January 01, 2021, 03:41:22 PM
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Any problem on provably fair like SHA-256?

IMO, even there has some new provably fair in the end the casino will always win because they have a house edge in the long term they will be always profitable. I believe thing kind of issue/discussion most of them came when they losing a feeling cheated.

Sure on a large number of bets the casino will make a profit, that's just statistics. However, a house edge doesn't mean that you can't win big time. In gambling there will always be people who lose and people who win. It averages out for the casino, but the individual gambler there can be a lot of profit being made.

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January 01, 2021, 04:07:38 PM
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Have you tried sports gambling? If you are fond of such field of interest, I think you will like it.
Eversince I engaged myself in gambling, I do play more often on card games and dice games  I'd say these games are fair enough for players to enjoy. It was only lately when I started playing Sportsbet and my experience is great. I am being able to somehow have two activities at the same time which I think  suits my leisure time well. But in my opinion it is not a "true gambling experience", but is enjoyable still. How come it is not? Not sure really but I think there is a more focus on the outcome as its approach not the 'gambling game' itself. Would still recommend it since OP mentioned about leisure time.



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January 01, 2021, 06:16:40 PM
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at first i can say i have no interest to create or invest on any gambling related bussines
the reason i post this is because i need better games to waste my leisure time

welcome all of you to post ideas as the title suggests
if i see a little response i will post my ideas and discuss yours

HAPPY NEW YEAR 2021  Grin

whatever i may write here offered to Public Domain - Year 2021

update 1 : thank you for more than little response !
                of course i will share my ideas , new years eve today so lets say tomorrow ?

There is a lack of sexy games in crypto casinos I think.
More games with sexy chicks like strip poker would be more pleasant IMO.
(happy new year to you)

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January 01, 2021, 08:18:08 PM
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DISCLAIMER : The author is a supporter of clean implementations of what we call 'Provably Fair'
if you want to discuss about 'Provably fair'  there are many great threads already in this forum  Cool


at first i can say i have no interest to create or invest on any gambling related bussines
the reason i post this is because i need better games to waste my leisure time
^ Provably fair in poker games. It is more fun to play that game.
I don't think gambling game is a waste of time and I don't also gamble if I am not at a convenient time. Gambling for me is a form of entertainment and it is separated from my leisure time, of course, gamble in my free time will always have a good mood while I am gambling.
What's Public Domain you offer?
leisure time = free time , English is my 2nd language too so i do not imply you wrote something wrong
if you stay in this thread long enough it is possible to read some original ideas i have
in advance i want to make them usable for any creative mind willing to base his/her work on
thats why i mention Public Domain https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_domain


as about your reply , provably fair in poker is a really complicated matter , the main problem you need
to solve efficiently is what is called 'mental poker' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mental_poker
wiki page talks around the condition : without the need for a trusted third party.
history can tell us what happens when house can shuffle decks at will and how easy are player collisions
however it is a solvable problem , but huge task overall. provably fair may help but it is only part of solutiion

Everything is upon trust, every game will be termed as provably fair but one in ten try to verify it. Maybe we can create new games, but how fair this gonna be fair is unknown.

For you to waste your leisure time every gambling website have got lots and lots of games. There are sites where you can play without spending.
Provably fair is good foundation of trustless games , but there are many bricks needed to build a game
actually you touched the reason i started this thread a little , i mention next generation in title you know
even minor changes on existing games can upgrade fun,convenience and overall sense of fairness
removing a rotten brick can make miracles , so please discuss with us on that matter ,in your leisure time ofc  Cool

why not share your own Idea instead? It would be good to share your idea to start the discussion instead of waiting for others to give one. and to be honest(at least for me) it is hard to think of an idea for an original gambling game. so the idea that you have would be a great starter for this discussion.
the reason i was not shared my ideaS yet is simple :
if you read older posts i made here, you will see i spent lot of time talking to myself in
some of my threads, so i learnt my lesson, welcome relax and enjoy !

But i'm more engaging in Sports betting nowadays and Only visit these Games when i have no good pick in Sports.
So i have nothing to share and Maybe will Look back here for the shared ideas.
welcome and stay tuned

As a casual gambler and fan of dice, there’s not much to ask on that facet of gambling for me. I only prove that my games are fair by checking the seed every 10 games or so. Perhaps if gambling platforms could automate that process without being too cheeky about it, ie altering something on the front end while returning differently on the back end, that would be great. Other than that, everything is good—at least for me.
so you have ideas , thanks for the reply, expand and share if you feel like

He would be sharing up his idea if he wont see any ideas that had been posted here shared but if we do really think that sensibly is that no one would
really share up their ideas for the tendency or possible for that good idea to be stolen.When it comes to gambling games then we do see some several
games that are quite unique and not really that common and they do really get some popularity and success to this market.
When it comes to new games then we are really looking for something that we havent able to try on this place.For someone who would able to offer that
then they might really able to get some recognition and build up popularity later on.
thanks for your support , welcome

any activity isnt a waste of time if you enjoy .
he have a free time that he want to waste and he will waste it in gambling . gambling when we dont have a free time should be avoided tho because priority or responsibility should come first before entertainment but what are those provably fair poker games ?
poker that are not online or dont have a human oponent ? but those are old and he want want new ideas to create a new provably fair game .
welcome , in green bold something i agree 100%

to be continued...
HAPPY NEW YEAR 2021 and thanks a lot.  Grin

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January 01, 2021, 08:39:30 PM
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There is a lack of sexy games in crypto casinos I think.
More games with sexy chicks like strip poker would be more pleasant IMO.
(happy new year to you)
I believe this one is already or can be seen in todays casinos  or you do mean with that complete stripper? Lol!  Grin

We do love to see new games that haven't seen on this market.Something unique that do really pokes out our inner gambler personality.

We do have already some crash, other ways or methods of lotteries and roulletes and other stuffs but we do really like to see more.

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