[Boxing]: Broner vs Santiago Feb 20

[Baofeng]

Post-Valentine fights,  

Broner vs Santiago Feb 20 Showtime Championship Boxing (SCB)



https://www.boxingscene.com/adrien-broner-vs-pedro-campa-headline-feb-13-showtime-card--154601

Well AB seems to be in the cross roads of his career, who would have thought that his career will turn this way. Very talented boxer but he waste everything, another boxer gone bad. This could be just one of those fights that he really need money because there's a lot of lawsuits against him. Touted to be the next Floyd, but his arrogance back fire on him.

I would say that Campa is no push-over, he is Mexican and I think he will give Broner a tough fight. No odds yet, but if Broner is the betting favourite, I might go with the underdog Campa just for s**t and giggles, hehehe.

Ok guys, I've unliock the thread and updated it with Broner's new opponent, (thanks to  bisdak40 for messaging me), Puerto Rico's Jovanie Santiago.

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[Jating]

AB (About Billions) Lol was a good talent indeed, we can't take away that 4 divisional title during his prime. But his lost to Maidana, we become viral and the internet went crazy with meme was the beginning of the end of his career. Although he got a sweepstakes fighting Manny Pacquaio, but I guess to fuel his lifestyle, he still needs to fight plus the pending court cases he has, money should be coming in.

I'm not familiar with his opponents, this is going to be his first fight in America, and we all know how Mexicans style of fights, brawler and will fight up to the end. If Broner losses here, I think that's it for him. So yeah its good to bet on a live underdog in Pedro Campa as he might pull a big surprise here.

[bisdak40]

I don't like loud-mouth boxers  , so if the odds on betting for Campa is attractive then i will go for it, same as you mate.

Is this a title fight?

[dunfida]

I don't like loud-mouth boxers  , so if the odds on betting for Campa is attractive then i will go for it, same as you mate.

Is this a title fight?

This would be hard for Campa but i do see the chances for him to beat up Broner. Same as yours, i dont like those boxers who do talk shit before the fight.

Let their boxing would do the talk. 

[AmoreJaz]

I don't like loud-mouth boxers  , so if the odds on betting for Campa is attractive then i will go for it, same as you mate.

Is this a title fight?

This would be hard for Campa but i do see the chances for him to beat up Broner. Same as yours, i dont like those boxers who do talk shit before the fight.

Let their boxing would do the talk. 

some boxers are into trash talking just to sell their fight. you know, additional revenue and exposure for them. right now, no odds released yet from bookies. trash talkers usually ended up as losers, dont worry. 
@OP, once odds are out, please update your thread so we can see whats going on here. thanks!

[TravelMug]

I don't like loud-mouth boxers  , so if the odds on betting for Campa is attractive then i will go for it, same as you mate.

Is this a title fight?

This would be hard for Campa but i do see the chances for him to beat up Broner. Same as yours, i dont like those boxers who do talk shit before the fight.

Let their boxing would do the talk. 

some boxers are into trash talking just to sell their fight. you know, additional revenue and exposure for them. right now, no odds released yet from bookies. trash talkers usually ended up as losers, dont worry. 
@OP, once odds are out, please update your thread so we can see whats going on here. thanks!

But the thing is that he can't back it up in the ring, that's why when he lost, boxing fans went against him because Maidana took out his soul. I don't know how he will sell this fight against a relatively unknown fighter in Campa.

However, I like what you guys said, Ryan Garcia can back up his shit, but fighters like Broner who have lost to Manny already? Nah, they're already forgotten and it will good for us to bet against him.

[FinneysTrueVision]

This is just a cherry pick fight for Broner. He hasn't been active in a very long time and he needs money because of all his legal troubles. This is just a soft touch fight that will maybe lead to something bigger. At least the mismatch is in his favor this time and he's not being used as a punching bag to sell pay-per-views or elevate someone else's name.

[btc_angela]

This is just a cherry pick fight for Broner. He hasn't been active in a very long time and he needs money because of all his legal troubles. This is just a soft touch fight that will maybe lead to something bigger. At least the mismatch is in his favor this time and he's not being used as a punching bag to sell pay-per-views or elevate someone else's name.

He will be if he losses this fight. I agree that this might be a farewell fight for him giving by PBC as his legal woes is piling so needed money very quick. I will surmise that we will probably get just around $200k to $350k tops for this match. Still good money as he is no longer as his best. And if he suffer another lost here, he might still fight but will be a stepping stone for upcoming fighters in the 140 - 147 lbs division as he is brandish and hasn't been really knock out cold in his career.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

This is just a cherry pick fight for Broner. He hasn't been active in a very long time and he needs money because of all his legal troubles. This is just a soft touch fight that will maybe lead to something bigger. At least the mismatch is in his favor this time and he's not being used as a punching bag to sell pay-per-views or elevate someone else's name.

Not a cherry pick, but probably a fight that is a win-win situation for him figuratively, as you have said he need money for his legal troubles, (don't know how many). So if he wins by a knock out, he still go out and became relevant again and maybe fights big names in the welterweight division to earn more big paycheck and still in boxing unless he goes to jail.

[ReiMomo]

Not yet odds but I guess Broner here will I guess the underdog on this match.

I'm in favor of Campa, in the personal background check I dont like Broner. He wasn't able to win since 2017 when he has fought with Garcia after his fight with Vargas that was a drew and next lose again with Manny Pacquiao. I dont think he is able to win this Campa and so far Campa has a good record in his boxing career.

[Maslate]

Broner needs this win, he hasn't won a single fight since 2018. I don't know if he still has something to offer other than his loud mouth, but looking at his record, it does not look good.

https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/455859

[madnessteat]

Broner needs this win, he hasn't won a single fight since 2018. I don't know if he still has something to offer other than his loud mouth, but looking at his record, it does not look good.

https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/455859

Pedro Campa is a good boxer, but Adrien Broner is a former world champion in four weight categories. You have to be a professional boxer to get that title. I think that even the two-year break will not affect his form. That's why I'm looking forward to Adrien Broner's victory over Pedro Campa in his upcoming fight.

[Ziskinberg]

Broner needs this win, he hasn't won a single fight since 2018. I don't know if he still has something to offer other than his loud mouth, but looking at his record, it does not look good.

https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/455859

Pedro Campa is a good boxer, but Adrien Broner is a former world champion in four weight categories. You have to be a professional boxer to get that title. I think that even the two-year break will not affect his form. That's why I'm looking forward to Adrien Broner's victory over Pedro Campa in his upcoming fight.

Well, let's see if he would finally win here, I hope he is still in condition and not only going to have fun in bar. I heard he has a lot of problems as he face lawsuits and in order not to go to jail, he has to pay them, and that affected his finances, he needs to get back in the game to start making money.

[madnessteat]

Well, let's see if he would finally win here, I hope he is still in condition and not only going to have fun in bar. I heard he has a lot of problems as he face lawsuits and in order not to go to jail, he has to pay them, and that affected his finances, he needs to get back in the game to start making money.

Yes, I read in an article that he is done with alcohol and wants to go down in boxing history as one of the best boxers. I don't know if he can do it, but I like him as a boxer and I always support people who quit bad habits and go to the side of healthy lifestyle. 

[Viscore]

Well, let's see if he would finally win here, I hope he is still in condition and not only going to have fun in bar. I heard he has a lot of problems as he face lawsuits and in order not to go to jail, he has to pay them, and that affected his finances, he needs to get back in the game to start making money.

Yes, I read in an article that he is done with alcohol and wants to go down in boxing history as one of the best boxers. I don't know if he can do it, but I like him as a boxer and I always support people who quit bad habits and go to the side of healthy lifestyle. 

He needs to if he want to come back, his loses to Manny Pacquioa and Maidana were all convincing and he lose in unanimous decision, means he is not really engaging a lot, I saw how he got dominated by Maidana in his fight, and before the fight he was so vocal underestimating Maidana but in the ring he seemed surprise, that's actually the first time I saw him getting knock down, I can't remember how many times he got Knock down but it was all Maidana's night.

[Maslate]

Broner needs this win, he hasn't won a single fight since 2018. I don't know if he still has something to offer other than his loud mouth, but looking at his record, it does not look good.

https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/455859

Pedro Campa is a good boxer, but Adrien Broner is a former world champion in four weight categories. You have to be a professional boxer to get that title. I think that even the two-year break will not affect his form. That's why I'm looking forward to Adrien Broner's victory over Pedro Campa in his upcoming fight.

Hell yah, his record is very impressive, it's just that I'm not familiar with him.

Just check his stats and I saw he has a great KO percentage with only 1 loss against Carlos Jimenez via TKO.

his record https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/578516

[Taskford]

I don't like loud-mouth boxers  , so if the odds on betting for Campa is attractive then i will go for it, same as you mate.

Is this a title fight?

This would be hard for Campa but i do see the chances for him to beat up Broner. Same as yours, i dont like those boxers who do talk shit before the fight.

Let their boxing would do the talk. 

This will be hard for him but let's not under estimate his capabilities since Campa got a good record on his boxing career and might he can defeat this loud mouthed broner.

If I feel to bet and choose between them I will go to Campa since I don't like broner he's a big bragger.

[Lavander]

Broner has a bad habit but with regards to boxing skill I guess I can say that he is not bad at all especially if he will just play neatly and he will not use his bad habit in his match.

Broner has a little advantage with regards to experience compare to Campa but with regards to overall record, I can say that Campa has a good record among them as he has only 1 loss in his 33 match with 21 KO's and 1 draw while Broner has 4 losses. This will be an interesting fight for sure and I am sure Broner will do his best in this fight if he want to regain his past losses.

[robelneo]

This is a make or break for Broner if he losses here he can fly into an island and hide there until people forget his loss, he cannot afford to lose here, he is fighting a guy who has not fought for over a year and fighting for the first time in the US, this is a fight made for Broner to make a comeback, not really a good comeback as he is fighting a relatively unknown fighter.
I love Campa to win the fight so Broner can stop his vulgar talks.

[Japinat]

This is a make or break for Broner if he losses here he can fly into an island and hide there until people forget his loss, he cannot afford to lose here, he is fighting a guy who has not fought for over a year and fighting for the first time in the US, this is a fight made for Broner to make a comeback, not really a good comeback as he is fighting a relatively unknown fighter.
I love Campa to win the fight so Broner can stop his vulgar talks.

LOL!, you really think Broner would stop? as long as there are people promoting him, he would still fight. I think his loud mouth really made people like to see him, not to win but to get beaten, his under Mayweather I guess or he just idolized Mayweather because they are pretty similar in terms of how they talk.

[qwertyup23]

I don't like loud-mouth boxers  , so if the odds on betting for Campa is attractive then i will go for it, same as you mate.

Is this a title fight?

This would be hard for Campa but i do see the chances for him to beat up Broner. Same as yours, i dont like those boxers who do talk shit before the fight.

Let their boxing would do the talk. 

Though I highly understand that trash talking is part of hyping the fight in order to attract more viewers, Broner is the type of guy who trash talks literally. Like, he speaks shit before and after the fight; he does not acknowledge his defeat and creates excuses to make it appear that he actually won the fight.

AB's career has been on a downhill ever since he fought Maidana. His notorious spending spree and partying has caused a toll on his discipline as a fighter. I do agree that he is a talented fighter but he needs to get his shit together if he wants to continue his career.

[Becky666]

I don't like loud-mouth boxers  , so if the odds on betting for Campa is attractive then i will go for it, same as you mate.

Is this a title fight?

The past experienced has taught me personally that boasters or "loud mouthed" boxers sometime aren't good on the ring, most of them just do this stuff just to create some atmosphere to make sale of their tickets. Though, i won't just pick odds as this fight will be tough one; hope to see some good odds for Campa as i also have some feelings about him in regard to this fight.

[24Kt]

I don't even like boxers who talk out loud / badly before a match,perhaps a press blackout is better, it will be a difficult match but i think Campa has a chance to win if the odds are high enough i think I'll make a substantial bet on him

Trash talkers will always be there as these boxers thought that they can get attention from doing so. But I agree that a lot of people are getting annoyed with this kind of boxer. Anyway, that's their strategy to sell their fight. Better bet on their opponent, I guess. 

[Russlenat]

I don't even like boxers who talk out loud / badly before a match,perhaps a press blackout is better, it will be a difficult match but i think Campa has a chance to win if the odds are high enough i think I'll make a substantial bet on him

Trash talkers will always be there as these boxers thought that they can get attention from doing so. But I agree that a lot of people are getting annoyed with this kind of boxer. Anyway, that's their strategy to sell their fight. Better bet on their opponent, I guess. 

That's the main reason why we love to see Broner fight, he is a trash talker and therefore we back on his opponent.
I can already see the outcome here, if Broner lose again, I'm not sure if he can still have a decent fight.

"THE PROBLEM" now have a big problem.

[stadus]

I don't even like boxers who talk out loud / badly before a match,perhaps a press blackout is better, it will be a difficult match but i think Campa has a chance to win if the odds are high enough i think I'll make a substantial bet on him

Trash talkers will always be there as these boxers thought that they can get attention from doing so. But I agree that a lot of people are getting annoyed with this kind of boxer. Anyway, that's their strategy to sell their fight. Better bet on their opponent, I guess. 

That's the main reason why we love to see Broner fight, he is a trash talker and therefore we back on his opponent.
I can already see the outcome here, if Broner lose again, I'm not sure if he can still have a decent fight.

"THE PROBLEM" now have a big problem.

Suppose to be he is giving a problem to his opponent, but now he is the problem. lol.
Broner needs to stop talking and start winning, that's what he should do, period.

I searched about the betting odds of the fight but can't see one, anyone knows what's the betting odds?

[Ryker1]

I don't even like boxers who talk out loud / badly before a match,perhaps a press blackout is better, it will be a difficult match but i think Campa has a chance to win if the odds are high enough i think I'll make a substantial bet on him

Trash talkers will always be there as these boxers thought that they can get attention from doing so. But I agree that a lot of people are getting annoyed with this kind of boxer. Anyway, that's their strategy to sell their fight. Better bet on their opponent, I guess. 

Well, that is a part of them. In any game, there is trash talk but most of them are weak or loser. Because of this, they become well-known, and that how people will interpret their trash talk because there are some people also who like trash talk. I am on the side of Broner's opponent and I don't personally like Broner, perhaps he was in jail now if he is not on his boxing career. How lucky he is, but I am sure he won't be able to win with Campbell, Campbell is a good fighter and has self-discipline.

[Baofeng]

I don't like loud-mouth boxers  , so if the odds on betting for Campa is attractive then i will go for it, same as you mate.

Is this a title fight?

Nah, this is just a regular fight, enough to make money for Broner. And yes, we would like a loud mouth trash talkers like Broner who sometimes went over with his bad mouth, bad come fight night he is a no show. So yes, I will definitely have Campa, and even if Broner wins, I'm not gonna regret it.  , again just for s**t and giggles, hehehe. Will update this if the odds have come out, or just call my attention here if there are bookies already offering the line.

[crzy]

Broner has a bad habit but with regards to boxing skill I guess I can say that he is not bad at all especially if he will just play neatly and he will not use his bad habit in his match.

Broner has a little advantage with regards to experience compare to Campa but with regards to overall record, I can say that Campa has a good record among them as he has only 1 loss in his 33 match with 21 KO's and 1 draw while Broner has 4 losses. This will be an interesting fight for sure and I am sure Broner will do his best in this fight if he want to regain his past losses.

That bad habit resulted to a losses to him so I don’t like boxers with such attitude. Anyway, he can still win against Campa only if he focus more on developing his skills and behave like a pro. On the other hand, Campa was indeed a good fighter with a good record, this can be an interesting fight so let’s see.

[Japinat]

I don't like loud-mouth boxers  , so if the odds on betting for Campa is attractive then i will go for it, same as you mate.

Is this a title fight?

Nah, this is just a regular fight, enough to make money for Broner. And yes, we would like a loud mouth trash talkers like Broner who sometimes went over with his bad mouth, bad come fight night he is a no show. So yes, I will definitely have Campa, and even if Broner wins, I'm not gonna regret it.  , again just for s**t and giggles, hehehe. Will update this if the odds have come out, or just call my attention here if there are bookies already offering the line.

Same here, after seeing the defeat of Broner in his last 3 fights, I'm incline to believe that he is done in boxing. He is short while his opponent is bigger than him, so he can't just box or counter here, he needs to be aggressive to get some points or hurt his opponent, in his previous fights, it seems like he is not doing that, so with an opponent with 21 KOs, I think Broner will struggle here.

[kramchers]

This is just a cherry pick fight for Broner. He hasn't been active in a very long time and he needs money because of all his legal troubles. This is just a soft touch fight that will maybe lead to something bigger. At least the mismatch is in his favor this time and he's not being used as a punching bag to sell pay-per-views or elevate someone else's name.

Not a cherry pick, but probably a fight that is a win-win situation for him figuratively, as you have said he need money for his legal troubles, (don't know how many). So if he wins by a knock out, he still go out and became relevant again and maybe fights big names in the welterweight division to earn more big paycheck and still in boxing unless he goes to jail.

Of course, this fighting event for the two is really a win-win situation for both of them. Whether they win or lose both can receive
millions of dollars. So, if I'm gonna choose in I will go for Campa, because I've seen a lot of chances for Him to beat his opponents anyway.
Let's wait and see for the result of their whole fight.

[coin-investor]

I would say that Campa is no push-over, he is Mexican and I think he will give Broner a tough fight. No odds yet, but if Broner is the betting favourite, I might go with the underdog Campa just for s**t and giggles, hehehe.

Checked this Campa on Youtube and he is too slow for Broner but he has a good punching power but I don't think this will be enough to beat Broner although he loses matches many times, these fights are against the top boxers in the industry like Pacquiao he has more experienced and more exposure, Broner will win this fight easily, but if he loses he might as well retire.

[aioc]

Pre-Valentine fights, 

Broner vs Campa Feb 13 Showtime Championship Boxing (SCB)

I hope Campa train hard and teach Broner a big lesson in humility, this guy is very obsess in himself that whatever he do thinks that it's ok and everybody will agree he always think that he is still good, he loss a lot of fights recently the worse one is the Pacquiao match, it's time for him to be sober and slowdown with his arrogance, unfortunately Broner will come out the winner but still hoping for a huge upset.

[Taskford]

I don't even like boxers who talk out loud / badly before a match,perhaps a press blackout is better, it will be a difficult match but i think Campa has a chance to win if the odds are high enough i think I'll make a substantial bet on him

Trash talkers will always be there as these boxers thought that they can get attention from doing so. But I agree that a lot of people are getting annoyed with this kind of boxer. Anyway, that's their strategy to sell their fight. Better bet on their opponent, I guess. 

That's the main reason why we love to see Broner fight, he is a trash talker and therefore we back on his opponent.
I can already see the outcome here, if Broner lose again, I'm not sure if he can still have a decent fight.

"THE PROBLEM" now have a big problem.

It's like we want to watch them but we support his opponent  , I don't get surprise to see this statement since he is so jerk and I want to see him got a problem with Campa so that he realize that it's not necessary to trash talk and belittle his opponent.

Last time I heard from broner is he stated that he's broke and only have $13 on his bank account check this article https://www.overtimeheroics.net/2020/11/04/broke-broner-claims-to-only-have-13-in-bank-account/

[Russlenat]

I don't even like boxers who talk out loud / badly before a match,perhaps a press blackout is better, it will be a difficult match but i think Campa has a chance to win if the odds are high enough i think I'll make a substantial bet on him

Trash talkers will always be there as these boxers thought that they can get attention from doing so. But I agree that a lot of people are getting annoyed with this kind of boxer. Anyway, that's their strategy to sell their fight. Better bet on their opponent, I guess. 

That's the main reason why we love to see Broner fight, he is a trash talker and therefore we back on his opponent.
I can already see the outcome here, if Broner lose again, I'm not sure if he can still have a decent fight.

"THE PROBLEM" now have a big problem.

It's like we want to watch them but we support his opponent  , I don't get surprise to see this statement since he is so jerk and I want to see him got a problem with Campa so that he realize that it's not necessary to trash talk and belittle his opponent.

Last time I heard from broner is he stated that he's broke and only have $13 on his bank account check this article https://www.overtimeheroics.net/2020/11/04/broke-broner-claims-to-only-have-13-in-bank-account/

He can't complain with that because he does not manage his funds carefully, I'm afraid he will become homeless if he can't win this fight. It's his best chance, he needs to win and tell the world that he is now back.

[Viscore]

He can't complain with that because he does not manage his funds carefully, I'm afraid he will become homeless if he can't win this fight. It's his best chance, he needs to win and tell the world that he is now back.

I agree, he seemed to have a "FINANCIAL PROBLEM"... haha..

I don't understand why he choose that alias in boxing, he should name himself prosperity or success, problem is so negative, it has affected him. lol
Anyway, enough for that kind of talking, let's just focus on the fight and on what these two gentlemen can offer.

[stadus]

This fight seemed not a big one, there's not betting odds until now and there's few news about this. I'm not sure if it will generate a good amount of money, but probably this is not a big fight for Broner, his biggest fights I believe are his last 3 fights.

[Kemarit]

Maybe Broner really needs some dough to settle this case: Judge lets boxer Adrien Broner out of jail, orders him to comply in woman’s assault lawsuit.

and most probably the money he will get into this fight, will end up on that woman who filled assault charges on him. But regardless though, if he win or losses here, he is done, he still has the talent, but Broner's attitude is his downfall.

[plr]

The match is almost a gift for Broner who suffer losses from the hands of the top boxers in the welterweight division, this is a gift for him to comeback from an unknown fighter who has no experience fighting outside of Mexico, this should be an easy fight for him, if he losses the money stop for Broner as he will likely retire from boxing.

[Pamadar]

The match is almost a gift for Broner who suffer losses from the hands of the top boxers in the welterweight division, this is a gift for him to comeback from an unknown fighter who has no experience fighting outside of Mexico, this should be an easy fight for him, if he losses the money stop for Broner as he will likely retire from boxing.

If he's aiming to comeback for a much interesting upcoming fights.

He needed to win this one with a pride, he might get an offer to fight against well known fighter and and regain he's name from this
sport  venue, though if he won't get this one the next to follow might be a retirement since interest from promoters and fans may replace
and find other fighter.

[Yaunfitda]

The match is almost a gift for Broner who suffer losses from the hands of the top boxers in the welterweight division, this is a gift for him to comeback from an unknown fighter who has no experience fighting outside of Mexico, this should be an easy fight for him, if he losses the money stop for Broner as he will likely retire from boxing.

I wouldn't say it's exactly a gift for Broner, but obviously he has the tool and the advantage here. One thing that can go with Campa is that he is unknown and might be taken lightly by Adrien or even by the boxing public.

No pressures on him, but fight his own fight. And even if Broner losses, I don't think he will retire, he still still continue to go on and make some decent money fighting new and upcoming fighter in the welterweight division.

[Sanitough]

The match is almost a gift for Broner who suffer losses from the hands of the top boxers in the welterweight division, this is a gift for him to comeback from an unknown fighter who has no experience fighting outside of Mexico, this should be an easy fight for him, if he losses the money stop for Broner as he will likely retire from boxing.

I wouldn't say it's exactly a gift for Broner, but obviously he has the tool and the advantage here. One thing that can go with Campa is that he is unknown and might be taken lightly by Adrien or even by the boxing public.

No pressures on him, but fight his own fight. And even if Broner losses, I don't think he will retire, he still still continue to go on and make some decent money fighting new and upcoming fighter in the welterweight division.

I can say this is just an even fight, yeah, Broner is good but he hasn't been doing well in the previous years. His opponent may not be too popular unlike him but he has a great record and I believe that Broner has to make himself ready again and don't underestimate an opponent again.

Like the whole hood is on him!

[Viscore]

The match is almost a gift for Broner who suffer losses from the hands of the top boxers in the welterweight division, this is a gift for him to comeback from an unknown fighter who has no experience fighting outside of Mexico, this should be an easy fight for him, if he losses the money stop for Broner as he will likely retire from boxing.

I wouldn't say it's exactly a gift for Broner, but obviously he has the tool and the advantage here. One thing that can go with Campa is that he is unknown and might be taken lightly by Adrien or even by the boxing public.

No pressures on him, but fight his own fight. And even if Broner losses, I don't think he will retire, he still still continue to go on and make some decent money fighting new and upcoming fighter in the welterweight division.

I can say this is just an even fight, yeah, Broner is good but he hasn't been doing well in the previous years. His opponent may not be too popular unlike him but he has a great record and I believe that Broner has to make himself ready again and don't underestimate an opponent again.

Like the whole hood is on him!

Let's wait for the betting odds, we have no idea yet what the odds are so personally I would not say it is. Maybe in our own perspective now it's even but once we see the betting odds, we might change our mind, but I'm hoping that Broner will be favored so I can go against him.

[ene1980]

I would say that Campa is no push-over, he is Mexican and I think he will give Broner a tough fight. No odds yet, but if Broner is the betting favourite, I might go with the underdog Campa just for s**t and giggles, hehehe.

Adrien Broner will be the favorite in the fight by the bookies even though he is returning after a 2 year gap. He was having legal troubles and i am not sure whether he will be in a good state of mind and the long break he had will have an impact in the fight and i will place a small bet on Pedro Campa simply because Broner is returning after two loss and a draw.

[kamadazje]

Broner is in bad shapre right now and he badly need this fight in order to regain his career and also for money of course as he is facing some serious problems because of his attitude.

But if he will not step up his boxing technique and his attitude in the ring then there is a big chance that he will receive an upset to Campa. And Campa is in great shape with regards to his last 5 fights were he didn't receive any loss compare to Broner that he has 2 losses in his last 5 figthts. With regards to odds, I think it will be a close one and will favor a little to Broner.

[24Kt]

I would say that Campa is no push-over, he is Mexican and I think he will give Broner a tough fight. No odds yet, but if Broner is the betting favourite, I might go with the underdog Campa just for s**t and giggles, hehehe.

Adrien Broner will be the favorite in the fight by the bookies even though he is returning after a 2 year gap. He was having legal troubles and i am not sure whether he will be in a good state of mind and the long break he had will have an impact in the fight and i will place a small bet on Pedro Campa simply because Broner is returning after two loss and a draw.

I will go for Campa on this one also. Seems that there are a lot of things going on with Broner and I believe he is not ready for this fight. Not yet listed in sportsbooks here but I think they will list it soon as it is happening this coming month already. Maybe at first bookies will favour Broner, but once the fight is getting near, the odds will be reverse. Just my thoughts here.

[Lorence.xD]

I don't like loud-mouth boxers  , so if the odds on betting for Campa is attractive then i will go for it, same as you mate.

Is this a title fight?

Shallow rivers are the loudest sometimes, there are exceptions though, if the fighter has the skill to back it up then let his/her mouth run wild. They are the best fights to see because we can see if humility topples cockiness. Campa hasn't had a fight for a year now and I think that it will be on his side if he does a lot of training during that time period.

[Saisher]

Campa hasn't had a fight for a year now and I think that it will be on his side if he does a lot of training during that time period.

I hope he does, Broner is still good he still has that power, quickness and ring generalship, I based on his last fight against Pacquiao, but Campa can punch he just have to work on his timing and just hope that Broner will display his arrogance and become careless so the knock out punch can get in.

[Lorence.xD]

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I hope he does, Broner is still good he still has that power, quickness and ring generalship, I based on his last fight against Pacquiao, but Campa can punch he just have to work on his timing and just hope that Broner will display his arrogance and become careless so the knock out punch can get in.

I am not stereotyping but Mexican boxers are real good when it comes to boxing, I am a Pacquiao fan but you have to give props to some Mexican fights that he had. I do agree with you regarding Campa's but he hasn't fought on the American soil yet which could be a good or a bad thing, good because he is already a hard lined fight and bad because he does not have the experience. Broner hasn't won since 2017 so we should expect some effort to win in this match from him.

[yazher]

I don't like loud-mouth boxers  , so if the odds on betting for Campa is attractive then i will go for it, same as you mate.

Is this a title fight?

I will be rooting for Campa since I don't like his opponent and also I can't wait to see their interview before the matchup. I'm sure there are lots of trash-talking to make the fight exciting to watch. Anyway, Campa should know how to counter this guy because he has some power but lacks of technique to show his opponent. he can find some way to win this match if he wants to win.

[FinneysTrueVision]

Campa has withdrawn from this fight due to a team member testing positive for Covid-19.

https://www.badlefthook.com/2021/1/11/22225916/pedro-campa-out-february-13-adrien-broner-fight-team-positive-covid-showtime-boxing-news

[bisdak40]

Campa has withdrawn from this fight due to a team member testing positive for Covid-19.

https://www.badlefthook.com/2021/1/11/22225916/pedro-campa-out-february-13-adrien-broner-fight-team-positive-covid-showtime-boxing-news

Ohh, this is bad news.

Anyway, i think that PBC will look for a replacement as i think Team Broner can't afford to postponed this fight to a later date as their boxer is already out in boxing for too long, if he loses he might blame ring rust for it lol.

Regis Prograis would be a fine replacement as the two have bad blood in them.

[mu_enrico]

Broner has a better record than Campa. Broner fought Pacman, Mikey Garcia, Maidana. Meanwhile, Campa fought nobody, IIRC.
This should be an easy fight for Broner, but he may lack match sharpness since he hasn't fought for two years!

Campa has withdrawn from this fight due to a team member testing positive for Covid-19.

https://www.badlefthook.com/2021/1/11/22225916/pedro-campa-out-february-13-adrien-broner-fight-team-positive-covid-showtime-boxing-news

Lol, no fight this as well year for Broner

[Latviand]

As a fan of the Legendary Manny Pacquiao, I don't think that Broner is really effective inside the ring because as you can see in their fight on January 19, 2019, he struggled defeating Pacman.

I will place my bet on Campa, I'm not a hater of Broner but I just want to place my bet on where the odds is much higher. As I've watched those previous fight on Campa and is underdog, I think that he can still dominate Broner inside the ring because any thing can happen once the fight started.

It is important to seek some research first before betting our money on the side that where we are capable of winning.

[qwertyup23]

Campa has withdrawn from this fight due to a team member testing positive for Covid-19.

https://www.badlefthook.com/2021/1/11/22225916/pedro-campa-out-february-13-adrien-broner-fight-team-positive-covid-showtime-boxing-news

Oh this is very unfortunate for the two boxers.

Well as far as I know, there have been news speculating that AB might fight Michel Rivera this February 13 as a replacement for Campa. Based on boxrec, Rivera's standing is 19-0-0 with 12 knockouts.

News: https://www.badlefthook.com/2021/1/14/22230980/adrien-broner-next-fight-michel-rivera-potential-february-13-showtime-boxing-news-2021

[Cling18]

I don't like loud-mouth boxers  , so if the odds on betting for Campa is attractive then i will go for it, same as you mate.

Is this a title fight?

This would be hard for Campa but i do see the chances for him to beat up Broner. Same as yours, i dont like those boxers who do talk shit before the fight.

Let their boxing would do the talk. 

Broner has been really a trash talker and despite being defeated by Pacquiao, he still claims that he defeated Manny. It's supposed to be Camba's chance to prove himself more in the ring but since he backed out because of covid reasons, I guess they would find a good match for Broner this time.

[Baofeng]

Campa has withdrawn from this fight due to a team member testing positive for Covid-19.

https://www.badlefthook.com/2021/1/11/22225916/pedro-campa-out-february-13-adrien-broner-fight-team-positive-covid-showtime-boxing-news

Oh this is very unfortunate for the two boxers.

Well as far as I know, there have been news speculating that AB might fight Michel Rivera this February 13 as a replacement for Campa. Based on boxrec, Rivera's standing is 19-0-0 with 12 knockouts.

News: https://www.badlefthook.com/2021/1/14/22230980/adrien-broner-next-fight-michel-rivera-potential-february-13-showtime-boxing-news-2021

I forget to update the thread with this latest news, thanks for the reminding. Once everything is finalised, will either update everything or create a new thread. For now I will have to lock this thread as Campa is out of the picture.

[Baofeng]

New opponent for Broner, - Jovanie Santiago

Adrien Broner has finally settled on an opponent for his long-anticipated return.

The former four-division title-holder will oppose Puerto Rico’s Jovanie Santiago on February 20, multiple sources have informed BoxingScene.com. The bout – which will be contested at or near the junior welterweight limit of 140 pounds – will headline a “Showtime Championship Boxing” tripleheader from Mohegan Sun Arena in Uncasville, Connecticut.

The three-bout broadcast also will include Swedish heavyweight Otto Wallin (21-1, 14 KOs, 1 NC) and Dominic Breazeale (20-2, 18 KOs), of Eastvale, California, in the co-feature. Former IBF lightweight champion Robert Easter Jr. (22-1-1, 14 KOs), of Toledo, Ohio, will meet Ryan Martin (24-1, 14 KOs), of Chattanooga, Tennessee, in Showtime’s opener.

https://www.boxingscene.com/adrien-broner-face-undefeated-jovanie-santiago-showtime-main-event-february-20--155033

Still easy fight for Broner and quick money, although Santiago is undefeated, he hasn't face a fighter like Broner.

[TravelMug]

Here is the record for Santiago:



https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/422452

But nothing has change though, relatively easy for Broner's comeback fight.

And all the fighter that they have in line is unknown, so I think they wanted Broner to look at comeback fight so that he can still secure high profile names in the future for a high paying salary to help deal with court cases,  . Let's see how Broner will sell this fight.

[FinneysTrueVision]

I have never heard of this opponent and it is honestly not an interesting fight when compared to Berchelt vs. Valdez on the same night. Broner is not the fighter he once was and his value as an entertainer is diminished by his recent poor performances. I don't see a 31 year old fighter with limited experience and short notice beating him but I will definitely be rooting for the upset.

[Kelvinid]

He is giving Broner a chance to win, it is really a nice pick for their promoter and Broner. With a 14-0-1 fight record for Santiago, it is very obvious to think about what will be the possible ends. This is likely just an exhibition fight and an easy win for Broner.

But I don't think it buys more interest to the public and I'd never think about a close fight scene. Thus, I expect a higher odds for Broner, of course, it is the best choice to be made when putting a bet on them.

[Lorence.xD]

He is giving Broner a chance to win, it is really a nice pick for their promoter and Broner. With a 14-0-1 fight record for Santiago, it is very obvious to think about what will be the possible ends. This is likely just an exhibition fight and an easy win for Broner.

But I don't think it buys more interest to the public and I'd never think about a close fight scene. Thus, I expect a higher odds for Broner, of course, it is the best choice to be made when putting a bet on them.

The public will still bite it and most of the people who will not be enjoying this fight is the boxing fans that wanted to see the Campa v. Broner fight but here we are, Santiago v. Broner. Broner could handle this one in my opinion, Santiago is not that big in the scene as Campa is back in his homecountry Mexico, the record is the only one that backs Santiago and I think that with Broner, he will be tasting defeat.

[Baofeng]

I have never heard of this opponent and it is honestly not an interesting fight when compared to Berchelt vs. Valdez on the same night. Broner is not the fighter he once was and his value as an entertainer is diminished by his recent poor performances. I don't see a 31 year old fighter with limited experience and short notice beating him but I will definitely be rooting for the upset.

Actually all the names that have bee thrown on Broner was a no name fighter, sure they could pull an upset, but I highly doubt it. All cherry pick fight for him and onwards, as others have speculated, they just want Broner an easy fight and earn some money, get busy fights. People are going to watch though, just to see Broner loss to an unknown fighter, hehehe.

[Maslate]

I have never heard of this opponent and it is honestly not an interesting fight when compared to Berchelt vs. Valdez on the same night. Broner is not the fighter he once was and his value as an entertainer is diminished by his recent poor performances. I don't see a 31 year old fighter with limited experience and short notice beating him but I will definitely be rooting for the upset.

Actually all the names that have bee thrown on Broner was a no name fighter, sure they could pull an upset, but I highly doubt it. All cherry pick fight for him and onwards, as others have speculated, they just want Broner an easy fight and earn some money, get busy fights. People are going to watch though, just to see Broner loss to an unknown fighter, hehehe.

You guess it right, what I want to see here is on how Santiago will beat Broner's ass.

Broner seems already out of his prime, but this fight of him should be a win for him if he still like to get big fights, if he can't beat a non caliber boxer, then he has no right to fight popular boxers, no one would promote him to that, unless like what you said, fans will come to see how Broner will loss.

[Pamadar]

I have never heard of this opponent and it is honestly not an interesting fight when compared to Berchelt vs. Valdez on the same night. Broner is not the fighter he once was and his value as an entertainer is diminished by his recent poor performances. I don't see a 31 year old fighter with limited experience and short notice beating him but I will definitely be rooting for the upset.

Actually all the names that have bee thrown on Broner was a no name fighter, sure they could pull an upset, but I highly doubt it. All cherry pick fight for him and onwards, as others have speculated, they just want Broner an easy fight and earn some money, get busy fights. People are going to watch though, just to see Broner loss to an unknown fighter, hehehe.

You guess it right, what I want to see here is on how Santiago will beat Broner's ass.

Broner seems already out of his prime, but this fight of him should be a win for him if he still like to get big fights, if he can't beat a non caliber boxer, then he has no right to fight popular boxers, no one would promote him to that, unless like what you said, fans will come to see how Broner will loss.

It's all about money, promoters knows how to value fights.

They are allowing Browner to regain his popularity he'll bringing money still so giving him a chance to get another good look to go for the blow and fight another big name after winning, unless they are working behind and making another new name to this sport.

[Jating]

I have never heard of this opponent and it is honestly not an interesting fight when compared to Berchelt vs. Valdez on the same night. Broner is not the fighter he once was and his value as an entertainer is diminished by his recent poor performances. I don't see a 31 year old fighter with limited experience and short notice beating him but I will definitely be rooting for the upset.

Actually all the names that have bee thrown on Broner was a no name fighter, sure they could pull an upset, but I highly doubt it. All cherry pick fight for him and onwards, as others have speculated, they just want Broner an easy fight and earn some money, get busy fights. People are going to watch though, just to see Broner loss to an unknown fighter, hehehe.

You guess it right, what I want to see here is on how Santiago will beat Broner's ass.

Broner seems already out of his prime, but this fight of him should be a win for him if he still like to get big fights, if he can't beat a non caliber boxer, then he has no right to fight popular boxers, no one would promote him to that, unless like what you said, fans will come to see how Broner will loss.

Broner though said that in one interview that he is not yet out of his prime, he said that he is just 31 years old still young to still compete with the best. But in his recent fights, he has more losses, so maybe when he steps up on opposition, he usually doesn't perform very well.

So me may be still in his prime, but I would say that he is just a B-level fighter right now. And they try to have him a 'gimme fight', to bring his confidence again in the ring.

[Botnake]

I have never heard of this opponent and it is honestly not an interesting fight when compared to Berchelt vs. Valdez on the same night. Broner is not the fighter he once was and his value as an entertainer is diminished by his recent poor performances. I don't see a 31 year old fighter with limited experience and short notice beating him but I will definitely be rooting for the upset.

Actually all the names that have bee thrown on Broner was a no name fighter, sure they could pull an upset, but I highly doubt it. All cherry pick fight for him and onwards, as others have speculated, they just want Broner an easy fight and earn some money, get busy fights. People are going to watch though, just to see Broner loss to an unknown fighter, hehehe.

You guess it right, what I want to see here is on how Santiago will beat Broner's ass.

Broner seems already out of his prime, but this fight of him should be a win for him if he still like to get big fights, if he can't beat a non caliber boxer, then he has no right to fight popular boxers, no one would promote him to that, unless like what you said, fans will come to see how Broner will loss.

Broner though said that in one interview that he is not yet out of his prime, he said that he is just 31 years old still young to still compete with the best. But in his recent fights, he has more losses, so maybe when he steps up on opposition, he usually doesn't perform very well.

So me may be still in his prime, but I would say that he is just a B-level fighter right now. And they try to have him a 'gimme fight', to bring his confidence again in the ring.

His mouth is a level A boxer but his boxing skills is already in the level B, and will soon be in level C if he lose this fight.

He has not won a fight for 3 years already, it's kinda hard to prove again as for sure he loss some confidence after having 3 consecutive loses.
I don't want to judge but this is all what I think based on his fight history.

Meanwhile Santiago is not a champion but he is an undefeated boxer, both can use this chance as a great opportunity to create some buzz.

[Kelvinid]

He is giving Broner a chance to win, it is really a nice pick for their promoter and Broner. With a 14-0-1 fight record for Santiago, it is very obvious to think about what will be the possible ends. This is likely just an exhibition fight and an easy win for Broner.

But I don't think it buys more interest to the public and I'd never think about a close fight scene. Thus, I expect a higher odds for Broner, of course, it is the best choice to be made when putting a bet on them.

The public will still bite it and most of the people who will not be enjoying this fight is the boxing fans that wanted to see the Campa v. Broner fight but here we are, Santiago v. Broner. Broner could handle this one in my opinion, Santiago is not that big in the scene as Campa is back in his homecountry Mexico, the record is the only one that backs Santiago and I think that with Broner, he will be tasting defeat.

As expected, some boxing fans will be disappointed but it was the decision of both teams, either we like it or not, the show must go on.

We don't know if Campa wants to fight against Broner, or he wants another opponent because he likely moving away from Broner. I don't know if this is all about money sharing and both parties are not agreeing. Well, that is my opinion, of course, it is a big consideration since boxing is also a business.

[electronicash]

Broner is already a worn out fighter his boxing has been broken. We see how Pacquiao expose the weakness of his style in close range combat. He's an open book, should end his career if he's to lose with this match, we all know that Mexicans are skilled and love to brawl. Steady counter puncher like Broner should be an easy target. Probably the underdog has the upperhand here.

he appears to be really a strong fighter back then but suddenly his career dwindle and his youtube goes viral especially when he loses against Maidana. the guy is still very loud and obnoxious after it. i wanna see something like that again kinda new meme of Brooner.

He is giving Broner a chance to win, it is really a nice pick for their promoter and Broner. With a 14-0-1 fight record for Santiago, it is very obvious to think about what will be the possible ends. This is likely just an exhibition fight and an easy win for Broner.

But I don't think it buys more interest to the public and I'd never think about a close fight scene. Thus, I expect a higher odds for Broner, of course, it is the best choice to be made when putting a bet on them.

The public will still bite it and most of the people who will not be enjoying this fight is the boxing fans that wanted to see the Campa v. Broner fight but here we are, Santiago v. Broner. Broner could handle this one in my opinion, Santiago is not that big in the scene as Campa is back in his homecountry Mexico, the record is the only one that backs Santiago and I think that with Broner, he will be tasting defeat.

As expected, some boxing fans will be disappointed but it was the decision of both teams, either we like it or not, the show must go on.

We don't know if Campa wants to fight against Broner, or he wants another opponent because he likely moving away from Broner. I don't know if this is all about money sharing and both parties are not agreeing. Well, that is my opinion, of course, it is a big consideration since boxing is also a business.

i think the only they are going to be talking now is just the location where they are going to hold the fight. the article seems to have written that they're sure the fight is going to happen.

The bout will take place Feb. 13 atop a Showtime Championship Boxing (SCB) telecast at a location to be determined.

[yazher]

He is giving Broner a chance to win, it is really a nice pick for their promoter and Broner. With a 14-0-1 fight record for Santiago, it is very obvious to think about what will be the possible ends. This is likely just an exhibition fight and an easy win for Broner.

But I don't think it buys more interest to the public and I'd never think about a close fight scene. Thus, I expect a higher odds for Broner, of course, it is the best choice to be made when putting a bet on them.

Most likely this fight will be to promote his next fight again. If he can show some good moves and knock out his opponent smoothly, the fans might want to see him again in the ring with a worthy opponent. As you can see, it's all about marketing strategy no matter where you will go. everyone seems trying to promote their boxers the best way they could. Honestly, if Broner is not such a big mouth, he can show us some good fight in the ring with his speed. I don't know if he still got those skills, I think this is why they match them with this weak opponent to see if he still got those skills.

[Maslate]

Broner is already a worn out fighter his boxing has been broken. We see how Pacquiao expose the weakness of his style in close range combat. He's an open book, should end his career if he's to lose with this match, we all know that Mexicans are skilled and love to brawl. Steady counter puncher like Broner should be an easy target. Probably the underdog has the upperhand here.

He has not chance to win against the Legend, they are not on the same level so I don't think that was really a good gauge to determine if his career is already over or not. Broner will remain entertaining but he can never be as good as Manny, I guess he just need to be aggressive, unfortunately he was looking at his idol in boxing which is Mayweather and he can never be aggressive following his style.

He is fast but Manny was faster, the fight of Broner that I liked was the fight between Maidana, he got beaten hard.

[bisdak40]

Broner is already a worn out fighter his boxing has been broken. We see how Pacquiao expose the weakness of his style in close range combat. He's an open book, should end his career if he's to lose with this match, we all know that Mexicans are skilled and love to brawl. Steady counter puncher like Broner should be an easy target. Probably the underdog has the upperhand here.

Though bookies has not yet placed an odds for this fight but i do think that Broner would be the favorite to win here and Santiago would be on the other side.

He may have lost to Manny Pacquiao and have not fight since but i do thing he is not yet a worn out boxer, he is just 31 years old and i do think that he still have a fight left in him, he have to train more and talk less  .

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

Broner is already a worn out fighter his boxing has been broken. We see how Pacquiao expose the weakness of his style in close range combat. He's an open book, should end his career if he's to lose with this match, we all know that Mexicans are skilled and love to brawl. Steady counter puncher like Broner should be an easy target. Probably the underdog has the upperhand here.

Though bookies has not yet placed an odds for this fight but i do think that Broner would be the favorite to win here and Santiago would be on the other side.

He may have lost to Manny Pacquiao and have not fight since but i do thing he is not yet a worn out boxer, he is just 31 years old and i do think that he still have a fight left in him, he have to train more and talk less  .

The problem with Broner is that he is too lazy to train and would rather like a exorbitant lifestyle and that really separates him from being the best like Floyd, or Pacman. And when he rose in ranks like in 140-147 it magnify as it is a tough weight class to begin with. Definitely, Broner will be the favorite as he is fighting a unknown fighter at least as far as the US fans.

[Jating]

I have never heard of this opponent and it is honestly not an interesting fight when compared to Berchelt vs. Valdez on the same night. Broner is not the fighter he once was and his value as an entertainer is diminished by his recent poor performances. I don't see a 31 year old fighter with limited experience and short notice beating him but I will definitely be rooting for the upset.

Actually all the names that have bee thrown on Broner was a no name fighter, sure they could pull an upset, but I highly doubt it. All cherry pick fight for him and onwards, as others have speculated, they just want Broner an easy fight and earn some money, get busy fights. People are going to watch though, just to see Broner loss to an unknown fighter, hehehe.

You guess it right, what I want to see here is on how Santiago will beat Broner's ass.

Broner seems already out of his prime, but this fight of him should be a win for him if he still like to get big fights, if he can't beat a non caliber boxer, then he has no right to fight popular boxers, no one would promote him to that, unless like what you said, fans will come to see how Broner will loss.

Broner though said that in one interview that he is not yet out of his prime, he said that he is just 31 years old still young to still compete with the best. But in his recent fights, he has more losses, so maybe when he steps up on opposition, he usually doesn't perform very well.

So me may be still in his prime, but I would say that he is just a B-level fighter right now. And they try to have him a 'gimme fight', to bring his confidence again in the ring.

His mouth is a level A boxer but his boxing skills is already in the level B, and will soon be in level C if he lose this fight.

He has not won a fight for 3 years already, it's kinda hard to prove again as for sure he loss some confidence after having 3 consecutive loses.
I don't want to judge but this is all what I think based on his fight history.

Meanwhile Santiago is not a champion but he is an undefeated boxer, both can use this chance as a great opportunity to create some buzz.

Hahaha, nicely put mate, yes, his mouth was his downfall, specially in the Maidana fight. We understand that they need to hype the fight and to promote it, but most of the times, Broner went over board with his trash talking and when he lost he became an internet meme sensation and I think it has affected him negatively after that.

So a B fighter fighting a C fighter, it's gonna be close but I think Broner has still the advantage here and could be favourite.

[Botnake]

I have never heard of this opponent and it is honestly not an interesting fight when compared to Berchelt vs. Valdez on the same night. Broner is not the fighter he once was and his value as an entertainer is diminished by his recent poor performances. I don't see a 31 year old fighter with limited experience and short notice beating him but I will definitely be rooting for the upset.

Actually all the names that have bee thrown on Broner was a no name fighter, sure they could pull an upset, but I highly doubt it. All cherry pick fight for him and onwards, as others have speculated, they just want Broner an easy fight and earn some money, get busy fights. People are going to watch though, just to see Broner loss to an unknown fighter, hehehe.

You guess it right, what I want to see here is on how Santiago will beat Broner's ass.

Broner seems already out of his prime, but this fight of him should be a win for him if he still like to get big fights, if he can't beat a non caliber boxer, then he has no right to fight popular boxers, no one would promote him to that, unless like what you said, fans will come to see how Broner will loss.

Broner though said that in one interview that he is not yet out of his prime, he said that he is just 31 years old still young to still compete with the best. But in his recent fights, he has more losses, so maybe when he steps up on opposition, he usually doesn't perform very well.

So me may be still in his prime, but I would say that he is just a B-level fighter right now. And they try to have him a 'gimme fight', to bring his confidence again in the ring.

His mouth is a level A boxer but his boxing skills is already in the level B, and will soon be in level C if he lose this fight.

He has not won a fight for 3 years already, it's kinda hard to prove again as for sure he loss some confidence after having 3 consecutive loses.
I don't want to judge but this is all what I think based on his fight history.

Meanwhile Santiago is not a champion but he is an undefeated boxer, both can use this chance as a great opportunity to create some buzz.

Hahaha, nicely put mate, yes, his mouth was his downfall, specially in the Maidana fight. We understand that they need to hype the fight and to promote it, but most of the times, Broner went over board with his trash talking and when he lost he became an internet meme sensation and I think it has affected him negatively after that.

So a B fighter fighting a C fighter, it's gonna be close but I think Broner has still the advantage here and could be favourite.

I hope that the sportsbook will also hype him so much so he will be a heavy favorites, when that happen, I'm gonna enjoy taking a very attractive odds for Santiago. I know he hasn't been KO in his career, maybe this is the time and I'm gonna bet on that.

[Hippocrypto]

Broner is already a worn out fighter his boxing has been broken. We see how Pacquiao expose the weakness of his style in close range combat. He's an open book, should end his career if he's to lose with this match, we all know that Mexicans are skilled and love to brawl. Steady counter puncher like Broner should be an easy target. Probably the underdog has the upperhand here.

Though bookies has not yet placed an odds for this fight but i do think that Broner would be the favorite to win here and Santiago would be on the other side.

He may have lost to Manny Pacquiao and have not fight since but i do thing he is not yet a worn out boxer, he is just 31 years old and i do think that he still have a fight left in him, he have to train more and talk less  .

Of course, on his age he would come so far to become the most highest paid boxer and show more good fights in the future. This man placed more odds rather than those new boxers, because his experience on several fight fights is a key factor to enhance according to his skills as well. At that age, it's not yet over and I believed he definitely acquire more match and boost up his career in order to take that legacy.

[Kasabus]

Broner is already a worn out fighter his boxing has been broken. We see how Pacquiao expose the weakness of his style in close range combat. He's an open book, should end his career if he's to lose with this match, we all know that Mexicans are skilled and love to brawl. Steady counter puncher like Broner should be an easy target. Probably the underdog has the upperhand here.

Though bookies has not yet placed an odds for this fight but i do think that Broner would be the favorite to win here and Santiago would be on the other side.

He may have lost to Manny Pacquiao and have not fight since but i do thing he is not yet a worn out boxer, he is just 31 years old and i do think that he still have a fight left in him, he have to train more and talk less  .

Of course, on his age he would come so far to become the most highest paid boxer and show more good fights in the future. This man placed more odds rather than those new boxers, because his experience on several fight fights is a key factor to enhance according to his skills as well. At that age, it's not yet over and I believed he definitely acquire more match and boost up his career in order to take that legacy.

I don't see what kind of legacy Broner will leave in boxing, probably his "trash talking" which he was popular of. Any boxer that fought Manny Pacquiao will always be remembered and as cocky as Broner, fans will not be having a hard time to remember him.

[Japinat]

Broner is already a worn out fighter his boxing has been broken. We see how Pacquiao expose the weakness of his style in close range combat. He's an open book, should end his career if he's to lose with this match, we all know that Mexicans are skilled and love to brawl. Steady counter puncher like Broner should be an easy target. Probably the underdog has the upperhand here.

Though bookies has not yet placed an odds for this fight but i do think that Broner would be the favorite to win here and Santiago would be on the other side.

He may have lost to Manny Pacquiao and have not fight since but i do thing he is not yet a worn out boxer, he is just 31 years old and i do think that he still have a fight left in him, he have to train more and talk less  .

Of course, on his age he would come so far to become the most highest paid boxer and show more good fights in the future. This man placed more odds rather than those new boxers, because his experience on several fight fights is a key factor to enhance according to his skills as well. At that age, it's not yet over and I believed he definitely acquire more match and boost up his career in order to take that legacy.

I don't see what kind of legacy Broner will leave in boxing, probably his "trash talking" which he was popular of. Any boxer that fought Manny Pacquiao will always be remembered and as cocky as Broner, fans will not be having a hard time to remember him.

You can't change a boxer, that's his own style and that trash talking would not matter if he does not win fights.

His last 3 fights was against the great boxers in sports, he did not win on those fights, and this one is definitely easier for him, so I expect him to win.

[Jating]

Broner is already a worn out fighter his boxing has been broken. We see how Pacquiao expose the weakness of his style in close range combat. He's an open book, should end his career if he's to lose with this match, we all know that Mexicans are skilled and love to brawl. Steady counter puncher like Broner should be an easy target. Probably the underdog has the upperhand here.

Though bookies has not yet placed an odds for this fight but i do think that Broner would be the favorite to win here and Santiago would be on the other side.

He may have lost to Manny Pacquiao and have not fight since but i do thing he is not yet a worn out boxer, he is just 31 years old and i do think that he still have a fight left in him, he have to train more and talk less  .

Of course, on his age he would come so far to become the most highest paid boxer and show more good fights in the future. This man placed more odds rather than those new boxers, because his experience on several fight fights is a key factor to enhance according to his skills as well. At that age, it's not yet over and I believed he definitely acquire more match and boost up his career in order to take that legacy.

I don't see what kind of legacy Broner will leave in boxing, probably his "trash talking" which he was popular of. Any boxer that fought Manny Pacquiao will always be remembered and as cocky as Broner, fans will not be having a hard time to remember him.

Legacy? None, he will be forgotten in obscurity, as I have said he is now a B level fighter, maybe not past his prime, but he is going there in that path very quick.

It's good though that he is still under contract and security a fight this February.

He will be known like this:



Internet sensation when he his lost to Marcos Maidana.

[Botnake]

Broner is already a worn out fighter his boxing has been broken. We see how Pacquiao expose the weakness of his style in close range combat. He's an open book, should end his career if he's to lose with this match, we all know that Mexicans are skilled and love to brawl. Steady counter puncher like Broner should be an easy target. Probably the underdog has the upperhand here.

Though bookies has not yet placed an odds for this fight but i do think that Broner would be the favorite to win here and Santiago would be on the other side.

He may have lost to Manny Pacquiao and have not fight since but i do thing he is not yet a worn out boxer, he is just 31 years old and i do think that he still have a fight left in him, he have to train more and talk less  .

Of course, on his age he would come so far to become the most highest paid boxer and show more good fights in the future. This man placed more odds rather than those new boxers, because his experience on several fight fights is a key factor to enhance according to his skills as well. At that age, it's not yet over and I believed he definitely acquire more match and boost up his career in order to take that legacy.

I don't see what kind of legacy Broner will leave in boxing, probably his "trash talking" which he was popular of. Any boxer that fought Manny Pacquiao will always be remembered and as cocky as Broner, fans will not be having a hard time to remember him.

Legacy? None, he will be forgotten in obscurity, as I have said he is now a B level fighter, maybe not past his prime, but he is going there in that path very quick.

It's good though that he is still under contract and security a fight this February.

He will be known like this:



Internet sensation when he his lost to Marcos Maidana.

Don't bring that again mate.. I don't want to laugh again and again..

Honestly, IMO, the best fight of Broner is with Maidana, I hope they will have a rematch, Maidana just know how to Bully Broner in the ring and Broner has no answer. I was thinking while watching the fight, maybe Broner is just waiting for Maidana to get tired, but he was wrong, Maidana never get tired, he even almost beat Mayweather in a fight, so Broner is easy.

[Ziskinberg]

Lots of meme's after Broner loss against Maidana.

Look.  (ctto)


It was Broner who started it, Maidana just got his revenge, actually a complete revenge as he knock out Broner in this fight.
He doesn't show respect, he is not respected in return, good for him.

[stadus]

Post-Valentine fights,  

Broner vs Santiago Feb 20 Showtime Championship Boxing (SCB)
Ok guys, I've unliock the thread and updated it with Broner's new opponent, (thanks to  bisdak40 for messaging me), Puerto Rico's Jovanie Santiago.

This Santiago although a replacement is good he has a strong punch and likes to go deeper in the body, but the biggest question is can he connect with a very agile Broner, but it's a good replacement though it's Broner's last chance to get back in the limelight, there's no excuse for him to lose here, it's a career ending loss if he lose here.

Good replacement because it gives Broner a good chance of winning since Santiago is not as good as Pedro Campa's record which is 31-1, while Jovanie Santiago only has 14 fights so far.

If Jovanie Santiago can connect, I think he can if he does the right timing, he also has a good KO record, so with a perfect game plan, he can come up as a winner here and that will make him popular in boxing as fans knows Broner.

[TimeTeller]

Post-Valentine fights,  

Broner vs Santiago Feb 20 Showtime Championship Boxing (SCB)
Ok guys, I've unliock the thread and updated it with Broner's new opponent, (thanks to  bisdak40 for messaging me), Puerto Rico's Jovanie Santiago.

This Santiago although a replacement is good he has a strong punch and likes to go deeper in the body, but the biggest question is can he connect with a very agile Broner, but it's a good replacement though it's Broner's last chance to get back in the limelight, there's no excuse for him to lose here, it's a career ending loss if he lose here.

This is better to watch than exhibition fights like that of Mayweather.
Broner needs not to lose this fight or else, I don't know what will happen to his career afterwards.
No bookies has this match yet? Looking at bestodds, they haven't yet this one listed maybe due to the replacement.

[Russlenat]

Here's the fight menu.

Broner vs Santiago




Big difference in terms of experience, Broner has the edge here and he will be the favorites for sure, no doubt about that.

Unfortunately until now there's still no bookies that is offering the betting odds of this particular fight.

[stomachgrowls]

Here's the fight menu.

Broner vs Santiago
Big difference in terms of experience, Broner has the edge here and he will be the favorites for sure, no doubt about that.

Unfortunately until now there's still no bookies that is offering the betting odds of this particular fight.

We are still 14 days away on the said fight so bookmakers would be showing or do offer when we do get closer on the said fight maybe less than 10 days.

When it comes to experience then theres no doubt that Broner would be the heavily favorite for this fight.You can tell the different in terms of that aspect on just seeing the numbers.

Both does have impressive KO percentage which means they might tie up on punching power but talking about technicalities and experience then there's a huge gap.

We've seen several fights that had been arranged between fighters which are really too wide when it comes to gap on statistics.Dont know on whats the basis of management
on making out matches even if its clear that this wont really be a match up.

The thing i dont like about broner is being too tactful. hehe

[Kemarit]

Post-Valentine fights,  

Broner vs Santiago Feb 20 Showtime Championship Boxing (SCB)
Ok guys, I've unliock the thread and updated it with Broner's new opponent, (thanks to  bisdak40 for messaging me), Puerto Rico's Jovanie Santiago.

This Santiago although a replacement is good he has a strong punch and likes to go deeper in the body, but the biggest question is can he connect with a very agile Broner, but it's a good replacement though it's Broner's last chance to get back in the limelight, there's no excuse for him to lose here, it's a career ending loss if he lose here.

This is better to watch than exhibition fights like that of Mayweather.
Broner needs not to lose this fight or else, I don't know what will happen to his career afterwards.
No bookies has this match yet? Looking at bestodds, they haven't yet this one listed maybe due to the replacement.

This is a win-win for Broner though, maybe the odds would go like 1.0X here  in sport bookies.

Of course, if he losses this fight to Santiago which is an unknown fighter then it will be over for Broner. The "AB" or About Billions that he used to carry as his moniker is now a dream, LOL. And if he wins here, he still needs to go to a lot of fights and wins impressively just to be in the contention for another belt. So we will see if he is past his prime after this fight or not.

[Maslate]

Post-Valentine fights,  

Broner vs Santiago Feb 20 Showtime Championship Boxing (SCB)
Ok guys, I've unliock the thread and updated it with Broner's new opponent, (thanks to  bisdak40 for messaging me), Puerto Rico's Jovanie Santiago.

This Santiago although a replacement is good he has a strong punch and likes to go deeper in the body, but the biggest question is can he connect with a very agile Broner, but it's a good replacement though it's Broner's last chance to get back in the limelight, there's no excuse for him to lose here, it's a career ending loss if he lose here.

This is better to watch than exhibition fights like that of Mayweather.
Broner needs not to lose this fight or else, I don't know what will happen to his career afterwards.
No bookies has this match yet? Looking at bestodds, they haven't yet this one listed maybe due to the replacement.

This is a win-win for Broner though, maybe the odds would go like 1.0X here  in sport bookies.

Of course, if he losses this fight to Santiago which is an unknown fighter then it will be over for Broner. The "AB" or About Billions that he used to carry as his moniker is now a dream, LOL. And if he wins here, he still needs to go to a lot of fights and wins impressively just to be in the contention for another belt. So we will see if he is past his prime after this fight or not.

He is AB "The problem", not it's himself is his problem because he is not getting big fights and if he will loss, you are correct, it would be the end of his career, so he can't take this fight lightly although he was a champ before, but things have changed now.

[Russlenat]

Here's the fight menu.

Broner vs Santiago
Big difference in terms of experience, Broner has the edge here and he will be the favorites for sure, no doubt about that.

Unfortunately until now there's still no bookies that is offering the betting odds of this particular fight.

We are still 14 days away on the said fight so bookmakers would be showing or do offer when we do get closer on the said fight maybe less than 10 days.

The problem is we don't have any idea what's the betting odds for this fight, it's suppose to be out in fiat sportsbook.

Broner is popular, how come this fight is not popular? I don't know what's the reason why odds are still not out.

It could be possible that the fight will not happen? 10 days before the fight? I doubt that man, probably 1 to 2 days.

[Serious475]

Post-Valentine fights,  

Broner vs Santiago Feb 20 Showtime Championship Boxing (SCB)



https://www.boxingscene.com/adrien-broner-vs-pedro-campa-headline-feb-13-showtime-card--154601

Well AB seems to be in the cross roads of his career, who would have thought that his career will turn this way. Very talented boxer but he waste everything, another boxer gone bad. This could be just one of those fights that he really need money because there's a lot of lawsuits against him. Touted to be the next Floyd, but his arrogance back fire on him.

I would say that Campa is no push-over, he is Mexican and I think he will give Broner a tough fight. No odds yet, but if Broner is the betting favourite, I might go with the underdog Campa just for s**t and giggles, hehehe.

Ok guys, I've unliock the thread and updated it with Broner's new opponent, (thanks to  bisdak40 for messaging me), Puerto Rico's Jovanie Santiago.

According to my research, Adrian Boner is much more experienced than Jovanie Santiago and we can compare that with their current standings. Adrian Boner has standing of 33-4-1 while Jovanie Santiago only has 14-0-1 and that is where we can compare since Boner has a 38 matches already while Santiago only has 15 matches.. Maybe that is the reason why other people tends to bet for Broner. If we are going to depend on the past few games of both boxer, we can bet on Jovanie since he has a 3 games win streak while the past 3 games of Boner is Lose-Draw-LoseThe bout will happen on Mohegan Sun Casino at United states. The height and Reach is also an advantage for Santiago even if it is just a bit advantage.

[zidanw]

I see their fight has been finalize already and instead of pedro campa, Broner will be facing Jovanie Santiago. This fight is totally in favor to Broner for sure even if Santiago is
undefeated as I see that Santiago has a total of 15 fights only which is very far compare to Broners experience.

Though anything can happen in the ring but I am pretty sure that the bookmaker will surely to favor Broner in this upcoming match. I tried checking the casino that I used but I didn't see the odds of Broner and Santiago so I am sure that there are few casinos that are hosting their fight for sure.

[AmoreJaz]

I see their fight has been finalize already and instead of pedro campa, Broner will be facing Jovanie Santiago. This fight is totally in favor to Broner for sure even if Santiago is
undefeated as I see that Santiago has a total of 15 fights only which is very far compare to Broners experience.

Though anything can happen in the ring but I am pretty sure that the bookmaker will surely to favor Broner in this upcoming match. I tried checking the casino that I used but I didn't see the odds of Broner and Santiago so I am sure that there are few casinos that are hosting their fight for sure.

no odds yet even at stake. maybe we will see the odds by the end of this week. but yes, more then likely bookies will favour broner here. but he's been so long outside the ring so lets see if his training will pay off afterwards.
santiago, on the other hand, has good stats and has recent fights than broner though only few bouts in his record.

[mirakal]

I see their fight has been finalize already and instead of pedro campa, Broner will be facing Jovanie Santiago. This fight is totally in favor to Broner for sure even if Santiago is
undefeated as I see that Santiago has a total of 15 fights only which is very far compare to Broners experience.

Though anything can happen in the ring but I am pretty sure that the bookmaker will surely to favor Broner in this upcoming match. I tried checking the casino that I used but I didn't see the odds of Broner and Santiago so I am sure that there are few casinos that are hosting their fight for sure.

no odds yet even at stake. maybe we will see the odds by the end of this week. but yes, more then likely bookies will favour broner here. but he's been so long outside the ring so lets see if his training will pay off afterwards.
santiago, on the other hand, has good stats and has recent fights than broner though only few bouts in his record.

This wasn't the original fight, so there's a possibility that it will be cancelled who knows.

I am looking at some highlights of Santiago now since I am not really familiar with this boxer, and seen in some of the highlight video that he is a good body puncher. Look at this highlights _ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgFOXl2pL4g (video not mine)

See, maybe if he can make that to Broner, that would be a hell of a win, and being the underdog, it seem so interesting.

[FinneysTrueVision]

I did not watch this fight tonight but by all accounts it was not a great performance by Broner. His days of fighting at the elite level are gone and he should seriously consider retirement. Too bad he's lived recklessly and will probably have to offer himself as a sacrifice to build up a younger fighter if he wants to continue fighting and making money.

[Russlenat]

I did not watch this fight tonight but by all accounts it was not a great performance by Broner. His days of fighting at the elite level are gone and he should seriously consider retirement. Too bad he's lived recklessly and will probably have to offer himself as a sacrifice to build up a younger fighter if he wants to continue fighting and making money.

Some people are saying it's a close fight, and it should be a draw or at least a split decision, I did not watch the fight also, but look at the highlights, it seems like Broner although so serious with this fight, he did not won convincingly, so how much more if a quality boxer will fight against him?

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

It was a close fight and I would say that Broner is really wash up fighter now. Good for him he won but give credit to Santiago for showing and try to win this fight with aggressiveness and body punch. The judges scorecards are: Tom Carusone (116-111), Glenn Feldman (115-112) and Peter Hary (117-110).

[Jating]

I did not watch this fight tonight but by all accounts it was not a great performance by Broner. His days of fighting at the elite level are gone and he should seriously consider retirement. Too bad he's lived recklessly and will probably have to offer himself as a sacrifice to build up a younger fighter if he wants to continue fighting and making money.

Yeah I also didn't watch the fight because we all know that Broner will win here but he won't show a good performance because he is trying just to get a pay check. And they move the contractual weight to 147 lbs because he can't make 140 lbs anymore?

So it's pretty obvious that they've given Broner all the chance to win here and probably the judges are into it. Too bad for Santiago because the only way he can win is through knock out.

[Ziskinberg]

I did not watch this fight tonight but by all accounts it was not a great performance by Broner. His days of fighting at the elite level are gone and he should seriously consider retirement. Too bad he's lived recklessly and will probably have to offer himself as a sacrifice to build up a younger fighter if he wants to continue fighting and making money.

Yeah I also didn't watch the fight because we all know that Broner will win here but he won't show a good performance because he is trying just to get a pay check. And they move the contractual weight to 147 lbs because he can't make 140 lbs anymore?

So it's pretty obvious that they've given Broner all the chance to win here and probably the judges are into it. Too bad for Santiago because the only way he can win is through knock out.

I see Broner is quite aggressive now but he does not have a KO power, and he has changed, I thought it was James Harden fighting in the ring, lol.. kidding aside, congratulations to him, some may think his win was not convincing but a win is a win and it's final.

Let's see if he can get big fight after this win.

[Twinkledoe]

I did not watch this fight tonight but by all accounts it was not a great performance by Broner. His days of fighting at the elite level are gone and he should seriously consider retirement. Too bad he's lived recklessly and will probably have to offer himself as a sacrifice to build up a younger fighter if he wants to continue fighting and making money.

Yeah I also didn't watch the fight because we all know that Broner will win here but he won't show a good performance because he is trying just to get a pay check. And they move the contractual weight to 147 lbs because he can't make 140 lbs anymore?

So it's pretty obvious that they've given Broner all the chance to win here and probably the judges are into it. Too bad for Santiago because the only way he can win is through knock out.

I see Broner is quite aggressive now but he does not have a KO power, and he has changed, I thought it was James Harden fighting in the ring, lol.. kidding aside, congratulations to him, some may think his win was not convincing but a win is a win and it's final.

Let's see if he can get big fight after this win.

At least, he won this fight. And by now, he knows what he needs to improve if he will get big fight after this. As he said, he definitely needs to go back to the gym, that means, he knows for himself that he didn't give his best in this fight. And he's aiming title at 140.

[robelneo]

I see Broner is quite aggressive now but he does not have a KO power, and he has changed, I thought it was James Harden fighting in the ring, lol.. kidding aside, congratulations to him, some may think his win was not convincing but a win is a win and it's final.

Let's see if he can get big fight after this win.

He just wants to get a win four years is such a long year for a losing streak, and he wants to feel the win but I doubt if he still can take those champions on the division he is aiming, he cannot go for a welterweight title, it's laden by powerhouse champions, I doubt if he still can win a title, he losses his strength and his sting

[electronicash]

Broner looks very different now, he isn't very cocky and sounds a very respectful kid already despite the win. did he hire a PR?  

seriously his jab is fast and one cross that almost made Santiago kneel is a big plus for him. it's not the most impressive win but Broner really is trying to make himself look good and making people see his humble side. good for him. he continues to do that he'll last long in his boxing career.

[yazher]

It was a close fight and I would say that Broner is really wash up fighter now. Good for him he won but give credit to Santiago for showing and try to win this fight with aggressiveness and body punch. The judges scorecards are: Tom Carusone (116-111), Glenn Feldman (115-112) and Peter Hary (117-110).

That was a fair fight and it was entertaining to watch, welcome back to Broner, and hope that he won't gonna back to his old attitude where he doesn't respect his opponent whether outside or inside the ring. this man came up with the win today and hopefully, he will gonna fight some best boxers in their class again like he used to be. I mean, he has the skill to do so. 

[Russlenat]

Broner looks very different now, he isn't very cocky and sounds a very respectful kid already despite the win. did he hire a PR?  

seriously his jab is fast and one cross that almost made Santiago kneel is a big plus for him. it's not the most impressive win but Broner really is trying to make himself look good and making people see his humble side. good for him. he continues to do that he'll last long in his boxing career.

I was surprised too as I was expecting an old Broner, but he changed here, he is determine to win and his been aggressive in this fight. Not so cocky probably help him to up his game in the ring, hopefully he can continue to do what he's been doing and will be given a chance to fight big names in boxing in the future. Adrien Broner is still 31 years old, there's still plenty of games to come for him as long as he is winning.

[Baofeng]

Broner looks very different now, he isn't very cocky and sounds a very respectful kid already despite the win. did he hire a PR?  

seriously his jab is fast and one cross that almost made Santiago kneel is a big plus for him. it's not the most impressive win but Broner really is trying to make himself look good and making people see his humble side. good for him. he continues to do that he'll last long in his boxing career.

I was surprised too as I was expecting an old Broner, but he changed here, he is determine to win and his been aggressive in this fight. Not so cocky probably help him to up his game in the ring, hopefully he can continue to do what he's been doing and will be given a chance to fight big names in boxing in the future. Adrien Broner is still 31 years old, there's still plenty of games to come for him as long as he is winning.

Regardless though, he is too late, he should stay humble when he was at his prime. For me this fight shows that he is now a wash up fighter. Good that he won, but he wasn't able to knockout a D-level figther here. Of course, he can still fight at his age, but he will be just the stepping stone now for the young and upcoming fighters and champion at 140-147 lbs.

I'm locking this thread now.