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January 11, 2021, 09:57:11 PM
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What is the exact problem in summary?
You have to come up with facts.
You write that they do not want to pay out. Did they closed your account? Did they confiscate your balance?

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January 11, 2021, 10:03:22 PM
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So because they declined your withdrawal,  you are calling them scammers? I think you are new to the gambling world. 255 mBTC is a decent amount of money.

They do not have to process your withdrawal fast if they don't want to or if they have any reasonable grounds to hold the funds back.

What were the games you bet on that were voided? And what was the reason they voided your bets? It is not unusual that bookmakers void bets if something suspicious is going on.

Did they wrote to you that they are not going to pay you, or is this your own self imagined conclusion?

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January 11, 2021, 10:12:39 PM
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It seems quite normal to me that they want to know why you logged in with different IP addresses. If you have a logical explanation for that, is there anything wrong?
What I can tell from your story is that you weren't paid out fast enough and now say you've been conned. You might have just had a little patience.  I think you are pushing it to much now. I do not read they do not want to pay you. it is interesting about the voided bets though. Something must have happened that they decided to void.
By the way I have also checked their terms and conditions, last update seems to be January 4th. Did you saw the section that they can close your account now and confiscate your funds?
You write that you have he right to start an accusation topic (which is your right actually). a bookmaker has also the rights to make their own terms and conditions.
from what I can see you are panicking now with an accusation because your withdrawal was not processed. as long as a site does not confiscate your money or close your account permanently, starting an accusation thread might not be the smartest thing to do.


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January 11, 2021, 10:17:35 PM
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I opened an account in the site around 20.11.20, before I register to site, I sent an email to support to ask some question. The most important from me was : "Any roll over needed after deposit in order to make wit

There replay " Hello,
We understand what you mean. But that information about the roll over requirements are related to the odds that you will use. You can even place a bet at odds from 1.10, you do not have to place bets with odds for 1.85 for example. When somebody makes a deposit, he can not withdraw the funds without wagering.
There is no logical explanation for this process, and that is why this will never be allowed at any bookmaker.
On the moment somebody makes a deposit, he has to place a bet with the amount."

This is total not true. My question was about roll over and they just try to turn the question.



actually it is true what Adkinsbet wrote here.
I think you are making a gross mistake in your opinion. When you deposit money into a site, you should always play with it before you want to cash out. If gambling sites didn't apply this rule, you could easily launder money. then you could, for example, buy Paysafe cards for 1000 eur and have 1000 eur paid into your bank account. I seriously wonder if you know what the policy of a gambling site is. Each betting site requires a user to bet with his or her money before you are allowed to make a payment of that money. This is called AML policy.

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January 11, 2021, 10:25:47 PM
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Seriously did anyone even read OP ? WTF are all these question?

Player should wait his money for over a month? Adkinsbet are constantly coming with new excuses and voiding all his bets because he did bet on a football matches from a same country he lives.
This is fucking ridiculous. I cannot understand why anyone would defend such a shitty bookie who is lying their ass off and basically forcing OP to bet over and over again and hope that he will lose money and when he won last time then Adkinsbet told that the bet was acutally lost, then they again said its not and become with a new idea. Differend IP-s = definately a VPN.. I just cant believe these morons who post here and defend Adkinsbet actions.

If this is not pure scam then wtf it is?


And all the people telling OP that he shouldnt open this thread are idiots. What he should have done? Email back and forward with these scammers for 1 year?
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January 11, 2021, 10:49:25 PM
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Gambling are allow in my country.
I never used vpn because it’s not needed in my country.
The only ask about the i.p it’s because I used the site from my mobile sometime or my laptop in work or my wifi at home.
Never used vpn

So if you log onto their website on your laptop or phone without a VPN they allow you to sign up & place bets?
If you are telling the truth then you probably have a case.


Have you spoke to AskGamblers?

Edit - I am going to PM this link to a few people who are better than me at investigating this type of stuff.

Of course.
I’m using the site regularly. I never used vpn ( actually don’t know even how because it’s open in my country)

 


OK I’ve messaged a few of the scam hunters. Hopefully they can help you.
Give it 24 hrs or so, I know at least 2 of the 4 I messaged will post here to get more info.

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January 11, 2021, 11:15:23 PM
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Everything was already explained by Email. User was involved in betting on fixed odds. That is why we have voided his bets.
He only placed bets on games in Israel, where he seemed to have connections or inside information.
We told him he was welcome to use our site, but that he could not place any bets anymore on games in Israel.
After that, he did not want to place bets anymore. We did not confiscate his balance and we also did not closed his account.


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January 11, 2021, 11:23:30 PM
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I think it was much wiser to talk quietly with the site about this, and come to a solution than to throw water on the fire now which seems to have happened, this is of little use to start an accusation topic while they request your application about the payout, what is true about the ip addresses?

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January 11, 2021, 11:25:37 PM
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Everything was already explained by Email. User was involved in betting on fixed odds. That is why we have voided his bets.
He only placed bets on games in Israel, where he seemed to have connections or inside information.
We told him he was welcome to use our site, but that he could not place any bets anymore on games in Israel.
After that, he did not want to place bets anymore. We did not confiscate his balance and we also did not closed his account.


You are accusing me in thing that are not wrong. If I have such information why I have bets that are losing?
 
More of that. After you voided all my bets I did roll over all my amount again! I placed a bet with all the amount that deposit in 1.1 odd. The game won.
I ask you again. Let me withdraw my money as I did everything you ask from me and let’s close this topic and put all the case behind us.

I don’t want any connection to yours site anymore just Relase my money that inside now.

The management told me they are working on your case, and that is not as easy as you think it might be.
That is the reason your withdrawal has not processed. They told you via Email that you have to be some patient and that they would update you.
You decided not to wait and post the accusation topic. This is out of my control, I have to wait for the decision from the management.

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January 11, 2021, 11:31:40 PM
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Do you live in a country where it is permitted to gamble using their website? If your jurisdiction doesn’t allow it (i.e. they don’t have a license there) then you have likely broken their T&C’s. You might get your deposit back if you’re lucky, you won’t be getting your winnings though if you used a VPN to circumvent their country restrictions.

If the user comes from a country where gambling is not allowed, the casino must warn these users and do not allow any deposit from them. If there were any violations of the rules casino must allow deposit back. For that, it is not necessary luck but fair attitude.

The insistence for 1.1 rollovers on the user's deposit is complete nonsense. I understand this if it is a welcome gift or free rolls, or something like that, but there are user money and he can do whatever he wants with him.

Everything was already explained by Email. User was involved in betting on fixed odds. That is why we have voided his bets.
He only placed bets on games in Israel, where he seemed to have connections or inside information.
We told him he was welcome to use our site, but that he could not place any bets anymore on games in Israel.
After that, he did not want to place bets anymore. We did not confiscate his balance and we also did not closed his account.

These are all your mistakes. Your opinion opinion is not a rule that he has insider information, which is quite possible, but it is also possible that the passionate fan of this league and very well acquainted with the local circumstances. Usually, bookmakers remove suspicious games and don’t touch the players ’money.

What about withdraw, whether there were withdraw attempts by this user and if so, why did you not allow it?

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January 11, 2021, 11:40:39 PM
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Do you live in a country where it is permitted to gamble using their website? If your jurisdiction doesn’t allow it (i.e. they don’t have a license there) then you have likely broken their T&C’s. You might get your deposit back if you’re lucky, you won’t be getting your winnings though if you used a VPN to circumvent their country restrictions.

If the user comes from a country where gambling is not allowed, the casino must warn these users and do not allow any deposit from them. If there were any violations of the rules casino must allow deposit back. For that, it is not necessary luck but fair attitude.

The insistence for 1.1 rollovers on the user's deposit is complete nonsense. I understand this if it is a welcome gift or free rolls, or something like that, but there are user money and he can do whatever he wants with him.

Everything was already explained by Email. User was involved in betting on fixed odds. That is why we have voided his bets.
He only placed bets on games in Israel, where he seemed to have connections or inside information.
We told him he was welcome to use our site, but that he could not place any bets anymore on games in Israel.
After that, he did not want to place bets anymore. We did not confiscate his balance and we also did not closed his account.

These are all your mistakes. Your opinion opinion is not a rule that he has insider information, which is quite possible, but it is also possible that the passionate fan of this league and very well acquainted with the local circumstances. Usually, bookmakers remove suspicious games and don’t touch the players ’money.

What about withdraw, whether there were withdraw attempts by this user and if so, why did you not allow it?


These are all your mistakes? I don't think so. You can doubt those 1.10 odds, but there are more bookmakers who have such rules. How do you know it's an opinion? You often hear that players bet a lot of money on matches. Have you ever heard of arbitrage betting, for example? If you knew about that, you wouldn't have posted your post like that. You cannot call that a mistake. We also recently saw a similar situation at Fortunejack where the odds were too high, and then canceled the match afterwards. There was nothing wrong with that. And with Adkinsbet it would suddenly be Adkinsbet's mistake? Bookmakers have the right to cancel a bet at any time, even after the match has been played.

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January 11, 2021, 11:40:57 PM
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another adkinsbet scam - it's malubit.only lies and deceptions.
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January 11, 2021, 11:45:52 PM
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Everything was already explained by Email. User was involved in betting on fixed odds. That is why we have voided his bets.
He only placed bets on games in Israel, where he seemed to have connections or inside information.
We told him he was welcome to use our site, but that he could not place any bets anymore on games in Israel.
After that, he did not want to place bets anymore. We did not confiscate his balance and we also did not closed his account.



That isn’t good enough.

You have no concrete evidence of that.


Who says they have no concrete evidence? They only say that they think he have connections, they did not write they are not sure about their case.
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January 11, 2021, 11:47:12 PM
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this allegation is under jurisdiction. the federation and the clubs will immediately file a lawsuit against adkinsbet.
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January 11, 2021, 11:54:54 PM
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Everything was already explained by Email. User was involved in betting on fixed odds. That is why we have voided his bets.
He only placed bets on games in Israel, where he seemed to have connections or inside information.
We told him he was welcome to use our site, but that he could not place any bets anymore on games in Israel.
After that, he did not want to place bets anymore. We did not confiscate his balance and we also did not closed his account.



That isn’t good enough.

You have no concrete evidence of that.


Who says they have no concrete evidence? They only say that they think he have connections, they did not write they are not sure about their case.

If you have concrete evidence you don’t make a wishy washy statement like that. It looks like an excuse not to pay out to me.

I tend to disagree. you can have a very clear picture of what happened but not how it came about. if your car is stolen then you also know 1 thing for sure that your car was stolen, but not who the culprit is. they probably knew that oz.kashi got a proven benefit from these matches just not exactly how he got this information, in which case there is clear evidence that he has something to do with it.

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January 12, 2021, 12:01:06 AM
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adkinsbet's lies are endless but this one is very dumb and funny
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January 12, 2021, 12:02:06 AM
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Everything was already explained by Email. User was involved in betting on fixed odds. That is why we have voided his bets.
He only placed bets on games in Israel, where he seemed to have connections or inside information.
We told him he was welcome to use our site, but that he could not place any bets anymore on games in Israel.
After that, he did not want to place bets anymore. We did not confiscate his balance and we also did not closed his account.



That isn’t good enough.

You have no concrete evidence of that.


Who says they have no concrete evidence? They only say that they think he have connections, they did not write they are not sure about their case.

If you have concrete evidence you don’t make a wishy washy statement like that. It looks like an excuse not to pay out to me.

You don't even know what happened. So keep that nonsense talk for yourself and let the site and the customer speak instead of such pathetic accusations.

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January 12, 2021, 12:05:07 AM
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It seems that at this point it is uncertain why the payout has not yet been made by Adkinsbet. I haven't found the real reason for that yet.

We best wait for Adkinsbet to come along for a reason. What I read is that they are still working on his case.

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January 12, 2021, 12:05:21 AM
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After so much evidence that Adkins is a scam, people are still defending him. I can't understand it. How much does Adkins pay you idiots?  Huh

Adkins is the same scam like Malubit.com  was. Look at my fight with Malubit, you'll notice that Adkins is having a very similar relationship.I 'd put my head on the stump that Malubit and Adkins are the same.


I have almost the same problem with Adkins, but right now I'm too lazy  to make it public, but I will do it in next few days. It's unbelievable that in this way some bookie are trying to take people's money. Typical scam scheme. I guarantee you Adkins won't be here soon. People open your eyes, don't be as naive as I was. Don't defend the scam.

OP, I am 100% sure you are absolutely right in this case. This pathetic site fully lost a compass.
I hope our cases will be solved or the site shuts down, in both cases I'll be satisfied.
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January 12, 2021, 12:12:18 AM
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One very interesting thing:

After OP wrote in Adkins' thread that he opened a scam acquisition thread, bots flooded The Official Thread with silly posts. Coincidence?
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January 12, 2021, 12:14:46 AM
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One very interesting thing:

After OP wrote in Adkins' thread that he opened a scam acquisition thread, bots flooded The Official Thread with silly posts. Coincidence?

People judge way too quickly in this way that is of no use at all, a few facts have emerged but the only thing that is still going on is that adkinsbet has not yet processed the payout of the user so what is the problem to wait for their answer until it is resolved?

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January 12, 2021, 12:17:05 AM
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these are paid people who aim to trick people into depositing in such fraudulent sites. There are many articles that describe the scheme
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January 12, 2021, 12:22:30 AM
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One very interesting thing:

After OP wrote in Adkins' thread that he opened a scam acquisition thread, bots flooded The Official Thread with silly posts. Coincidence?

People judge way too quickly in this way that is of no use at all, a few facts have emerged but the only thing that is still going on is that adkinsbet has not yet processed the payout of the user so what is the problem to wait for their answer until it is resolved?


Ronaldo40, Life has taught me that everything that drags on doesn't go well in the end.
Adkins is stalling and constantly coming up with new reasons not to pay the OP ( and me2) until we give up. Either they don't have the money or they're just thieves and want to steal.
A few facts have emerged that are very serious and proven and that's not enough for you?
What's it going to take to realize that Adkins is one of the biggest scams in history?
How long does an OP have to wait, a year, and then declare it as fraud?
I'm so frustrated, I'm probably going to start writing about what happened to me right now.
They cheated on me in an even worse way. They changed the bet I played.
I played one game and after a few days they changed it to a whole other.
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January 12, 2021, 12:53:40 AM
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A gambling site needs the deposit to rollover that is common sense, but I have seen sites allowed me to withdraw without wagering. Adkinsbet responded your email saying that there are no wagering means they allowed you a special consideration possibly. And under this consideration you should be able to withdraw the funds without wagering. - Adkinsbet is wrong here. 
There replay " Hello,
We understand what you mean. But that information about the roll over requirements are related to the odds that you will use. You can even place a bet at odds from 1.10, you do not have to place bets with odds for 1.85 for example. When somebody makes a deposit, he can not withdraw the funds without wagering.
There is no logical explanation for this process, and that is why this will never be allowed at any bookmaker.
On the moment somebody makes a deposit, he has to place a bet with the amount."
The most important from me was : "Any roll over needed after deposit in order to make withdrawal?"
the replay was : "You are free to withdraw the money on your account, there are no roll over requirements."  https://imgur.com/a/G8gOD1p

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In the 14.12.20 I finally get an official message from site. they said " We have received official confirmation that the odds from the game Ahi Acre - Ihud Bnei Shefaram were not corrected on the moment the game started.
I am pretty sure you have followed the game and the odds, and there you could see that Ihud Bnei Shefaram was a big favourite. After 0:2 score after 10 minutes, the odds for the team Ihud Bnei Shefaram to score the next goal were just 1.25
We understand you are disappointed with our decision, but we have to take action if situations like this arrise.
After you place bets, you are free to withdraw funds of course."
Adkinsbet, it seems this is your common excuse. Have you guys read when I wrote about you last time?
Please read:
Don't do anything that can ruin your name overnight.
I know someone in the forum who actually in touch with me from a long time. We share things and we both have things that are common. We trust each others, so there are nothing between us to lie to each others. He is a gambler and a high roller to be honest. The Other day he told me something about you, at first it was hard to believe but later when he gave me evidences then I had no doubt. This is not an accusation by the way. I am just sharing what I heard about you from him. You are still working on his case, so I told him to wait. This could be an error too. And I honestly hope this is an error.

That user wrote me in telegram everything and shared the evidences.
First of all, I trust that guy, we have done a lot of business together. Big amounts, proper business.
He is a high roller and I know it very well. I have seen him to lose over $2k worth of stake and was still smiling.
He has no reason to lie to me because in our relationship we never felt to lie with each others. So, I trust his words.

However, since I am with Bitcoin and with this community and my ideology is to trust in proof, evidences - I asked him to show me everything and explain me everything.

You (I may mess up with order but here I try)
- 1st wanted to accuse him for multi accounting. Later you were convinced he did not have multi
- Then 2nd, you wanted to connect him with a gamblers group. Later you were convinced that he was not a part of the group
- Then 3rd, you came up with a very strange excuse that the guy he had bet on he lost the match, so his bet was lost. When my friend checked his slip then he discovered that you changed his leg! When he said that you changed the leg then you came up with this excuse that this was an error by the script (I have lost memory a bit here, you might say it was an error in selecting the winner too) because both player names are very similar. My friend told that 1xBet did the same thing with him long ago and there are script providers who allow result changing for the sportsbook. My friend was convinced that there were no such error, but it was done by your team. However since you clarified that it was an error you made the correction which means he won the bet.
- Then you came up with this excuse that his odd were not correct and now finally you were able to seize his winnings and all other bets that was placed after this bet and wins were seized too.

Does anyone see how they tried one after another attempt until they found something to seize the money. I told him to create a scam accusation, he said  he has other things to do before doing this.

Anyway, I brought this story because I see you have a very similar explanation that you gave to OP about incorrect odd and voiding the bet.

I am not bothered to read all these stories from OP, after reading about incorrect odd. I am already convinced that his story is real. If the case goes into further investigation then I may ask OP to provide deposit information, bet history, withdrawal requested etc screenshots. But Until then based on the merit of this case and the case which has not brought in the community yet, but I am well aware about it - I am leaving you a negative feedback so that anyone can read before joining you and put money in your site before rolling high.

Resolve these cases and all other cases with you and PM me. I may consider however this leg change of the bet slip to trick a punter that they lost their bet is something may not convince me to remove the tag, but I may make an exception after observing your activities for the next months.

Right now I consider - gambling in your site is highly risky.

PS: Cheers LFC_Bitcoin. @oz.kashi, if you case do not get resolved then feel free to create a flag against Adkinsbet.

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Proof of Payment:
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Pls guys,
I saw that you helped people with them in past. Help me.  


First, can you sign a message from the address in question?

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Pls guys,
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First, can you sign a message from the address in question?

i didn't Understand what you mean my friend..
ple re-explain.


Vod asking you to sign message from your bitcoin address on that screenshot. Your wallet address starting with "17we...."
That's to prove if you are the real owner of that address
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i didn't Understand what you mean my friend..
ple re-explain.
Read this thread: How to sign a message?!
If there is no way to distinguish between legitimate players and the 'fixed game' players, then perhaps you should re-examine your system: it shows there's a flaw on your side.

Every single time casinos use some form of circumstantial evidence without direct connections to link together accounts and groups, they risk false positives. Is it so hard to believe that? ToS apologists will argue the absolution of the contract which is simply a testament to their stupidity.

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This sounds a lot like that sportsbet.io thing happened in the past. I am yet to absorb all the details of this incident but that's my first impression.

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Royse777 is talking about the user on the forum: realscout
This user is a professional arbitrage bettor/fixed betting.

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Royse777 is talking about the user on the forum: realscout
This user is a professional arbitrage bettor/fixed betting.

What is wrong with arbitrage betting?

Is that the players can actually make money instead of losing?  Grin

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Royse777 is talking about the user on the forum: realscout
This user is a professional arbitrage bettor/fixed betting.

What is wrong with arbitrage betting?

Is that the players can actually make money instead of losing?  Grin

The whole problem with arbitrage betting is that a user has 100% certainty of the winnings of a match. A bookmaker is there to gamble, not to steal or take free money.
People who do arbitrage betting know very well what the possible consequences are. every bookmaker suffers from that. Often resolved by keeping the limits very low on certain matches.
I don't think it is a crime to do arbitrage betting, but you have to keep in mind that bookmakers may take action and void your bets which is their right I think.
We saw the same thing last time on FortuneJack where a player tried to trick Fortunejack and FJ voided the bet. I can conclude that there is a big group of arb bettors on the forum, who pretend of course that they do not know what it is while it is their way of living and making money  Wink

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Royse777 is talking about the user on the forum: realscout
This user is a professional arbitrage bettor/fixed betting.

What is wrong with arbitrage betting?

Is that the players can actually make money instead of losing?  Grin

The whole problem with arbitrage betting is that a user has 100% certainty of the winnings of a match. A bookmaker is there to gamble, not to steal or take free money.
People who do arbitrage betting know very well what the possible consequences are. every bookmaker suffers from that.
Often resolved by keeping the limits very low on certain matches.
I don't think it is a crime to do arbitrage betting, but you have to keep in mind that bookmakers may take action and void your bets which is their right I think.
We saw the same thing last time on FortuneJack where a player tried to trick Fortunejack and FJ voided the bet. I can conclude that there is a big group of arb bettors on the forum, who pretend of course that they do not know what it is while it is their way of living and making money  Wink

This is completely bullshit imo.

Free money is free money and if there is money to be made, it will be made.

What I don't really get is, how do they identify the arbitrage bettors? Shouldn't you play on different casinos to make it work?

I go and bet on "team a" at casino x,
I also bet on "team b" at "casino y",
I bet on draw at "casino z"

...because they calculated their odds poorly aint my problem I will win no matter the outcome.

How do either of these casinos determine if one is arbitrage betting? How do they suffer from that? They suffer from it because...

I guess it is because the player wins and this time, either of these 3 casinos will LOSE for certain. That's how they suffer.  Cool

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Royse777 is talking about the user on the forum: realscout
This user is a professional arbitrage bettor/fixed betting.

What is wrong with arbitrage betting?

Is that the players can actually make money instead of losing?  Grin

The whole problem with arbitrage betting is that a user has 100% certainty of the winnings of a match. A bookmaker is there to gamble, not to steal or take free money.
People who do arbitrage betting know very well what the possible consequences are. every bookmaker suffers from that.
Often resolved by keeping the limits very low on certain matches.
I don't think it is a crime to do arbitrage betting, but you have to keep in mind that bookmakers may take action and void your bets which is their right I think.
We saw the same thing last time on FortuneJack where a player tried to trick Fortunejack and FJ voided the bet. I can conclude that there is a big group of arb bettors on the forum, who pretend of course that they do not know what it is while it is their way of living and making money  Wink

This is completely bullshit imo.

Free money is free money and if there is money to be made, it will be made.

What I don't really get is, how do they identify the arbitrage bettors? Shouldn't you play on different casinos to make it work?

I go and bet on "team a" at casino x,
I also bet on "team b" at "casino y",
I bet on draw at "casino z"

...because they calculated their odds poorly aint my problem I will win no matter the outcome.

How do either of these casinos determine if one is arbitrage betting? How do they suffer from that? They suffer from it because...

I guess it is because the player wins and this time, either of these 3 casinos will LOSE for certain. That's how they suffer.  Cool

I don't think you understand much about gambling, mindtrust. Gambling / betting is not called that for nothing. Arbitrage betting is a big deal for all betting sites. You can't stop that, because there are always players who find gaps in the odds. every day there are thousands of matches. it is impossible for a bookmaker to always receive all the information on time. there are plenty of situations where the bookmaker cancels bets. Arbitrage betting people run the risk of being busted. It is actually a variant of fixed odds. Bookmakers do not calculate their odds poorly, do you really think they set their own odds? Of course not. They get them from a provider.

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January 12, 2021, 08:14:43 PM
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Arbitrations are played by people in all countries. The problem is that bookmakers limit each account if it is profitable. But soon there will be changes, there is already a discussion about the limitation and several court decisions have declared the limitation illegal.
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January 12, 2021, 08:47:11 PM
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tried over then 2 hours to do that. as i understand in blockchain.com its not possible to do that and I really not understand In those things.
Yeah, if it's a Blockchain Wallet you can't sign your generated addresses - it's only the ones that you directly import into their system.

Can you take a screenshot of when you sent Bitcoins to Adkinsbet? In particular, any of the addresses that begin with the character 3 in this screenshot:


This proves that you deposited to them. Showing the address that you received coins from only shows that you own an address to receive coins.

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hi,

this is screen shot of deposite https://imgur.com/a/lx277nM

You really need to learn how to sing the message on the Bitcoin address. Probably you know, but it's very easy to edit some screenshots and adjust it to your needs. So, screenshots can't be valid evidence that is your Bitcoin address.
If its everything correct you use Blockchain.com as your wallet, so there is no problem to make a sign there.
Also, can you post transaction id here but not a picture, just copy/paste all characters.
You should need to know, it's very important for us to have real evidence of any possible scam.

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hi,

this is screen shot of deposite -snip-
I would block out the "To" address field in the middle of your screenshot: your transactions can still be identified if they look for the recipients on the blockchain.

Remember that Bitcoin operates on a public ledger: having the date and output of an address practically gives away the transaction.
You really need to learn how to sing the message on the Bitcoin address. Probably you know, but it's very easy to edit some screenshots and adjust it to your needs. So, screenshots can't be valid evidence that is your Bitcoin address.
If its everything correct you use Blockchain.com as your wallet, so there is no problem to make a sign there.
Also, can you post transaction id here but not a picture, just copy/paste all characters.
You should need to know, it's very important for us to have real evidence of any possible scam.
You can't sign directly, according to the website:

Message signing is a way you can prove you control a particular address, and demonstrate you have ownership of the funds.

This feature is currently only available for your Imported Addresses

I think it might be possible to export the seed to a non-custodial wallet like Electrum as per this, though: Your Recovery Phrase

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January 13, 2021, 07:33:35 AM
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This guy deserves to get paid in every cent.

Why was bet in israel got voided btw?

Many users mentioned Fortunejack case whereas a bet was voided before game started.

Fortjunejack though never told the user that he bet on fixing(!) game. They simply had wrong odds. Nothing to do with the israeli game whereas odds were correct!

If israeli game was fixed, Adkinsbet must at least show us Betradar's message as a proof for their actions.
You can't simply claim that a game was fixed just because it ended 0-6!
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January 13, 2021, 08:48:43 AM
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I've been reading a bit on Google. The meaning of Fixed odds or Fixed game does not mean it was a bribe. It is also often said that odds were fixed, meaning that the odds simply don't add up in a match, so you can place a bet at a different time with a bookmaker other than a counter-bet with always a profit. A simple example is a tennis match of 1.50 for player A and 2.50 for player B. If that 2.50 turns out to be much too high for whatever reason, you can bet on it. If you know that the odds are getting lower for player B and higher for A, you can bet on player A afterwards to make it unnoticeable. Then you would have approximately virtual odds of 1.90 and 2.50, there you have calculators for what to bet so that you always have a profit. This is a much discussed topic and there is a large group of gamblers active who are only interested in this. I don't want to argue whether oz.kashi is. I look at it in its entirety.

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January 13, 2021, 09:48:30 AM
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I don't think you understand much about gambling, mindtrust mindrust. Gambling / betting is not called that for nothing. Arbitrage betting is a big deal for all betting sites. You can't stop that, because there are always players who find gaps in the odds. every day there are thousands of matches. it is impossible for a bookmaker to always receive all the information on time. there are plenty of situations where the bookmaker cancels bets. Arbitrage betting people run the risk of being busted. It is actually a variant of fixed odds. Bookmakers do not calculate their odds poorly, do you really think they set their own odds? Of course not. They get them from a provider.

I don't think you are a good reader, deathwings.

I never said I am a gambler but can you point out which part of my post is wrong?

I get that arbitrage betting is a big deal because this time no matter what the outcome is, one of these 3 casinos will lose instead of the player and that means a net negative for the gambling industry.

If most of your player base uses arbitrage betting sooner or later the money pool will dry out and the casinos will run out of money.

Amirite?

Why would the player care? he is there to make money just like the casinos. My question is, how do casinos identify the arbitrage bettors? There must be a shared information pool. If I had to guess, it is probably between those Curaçao license holders...


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January 13, 2021, 10:02:59 AM
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I don't think you understand much about gambling, mindtrust mindrust. Gambling / betting is not called that for nothing. Arbitrage betting is a big deal for all betting sites. You can't stop that, because there are always players who find gaps in the odds. every day there are thousands of matches. it is impossible for a bookmaker to always receive all the information on time. there are plenty of situations where the bookmaker cancels bets. Arbitrage betting people run the risk of being busted. It is actually a variant of fixed odds. Bookmakers do not calculate their odds poorly, do you really think they set their own odds? Of course not. They get them from a provider.

I don't think you are a good reader, deathwings.

I never said I am a gambler but can you point out which part of my post is wrong?

I get that arbitrage betting is a big deal because this time no matter what the outcome is, one of these 3 casinos will lose instead of the player and that means a net negative for the gambling industry.

If most of your player base uses arbitrage betting sooner or later the money pool will dry out and the casinos will run out of money.

Amirite?

Why would the player care? he is there to make money just like the casinos. My question is, how do casinos identify the arbitrage bettors? There must be a shared information pool. If I had to guess, it is probably between those Curaçao license holders...


In general, your story is correct. The problem is that bookmakers don't all use the same API from the same provider. And every API provider does not have the same ratings. If information about an event arrives at api provider A earlier than at api provider B, this can have enormous consequences. Often those intervals are only minutes maximum. For professional arbitration, bettor enough time to strike.
And your statement that the casinos will empty over time is completely correct. That's why it's often stated in the terms and conditions that they reserve the right to cancel bets, including with retroactive effect. What you are not correct is that you write that the players are there to take money from the gambling site, just as a gambling site would from the players. This must be done according to the rules. If a player is only dealing with arbitrage bets, that is no longer a gamble. Gamblers win and gamblers lose. But in the world of arbitrage betting (sometimes called fixed odds) there are only winners in theory. I know that LEVSKI7 is actively working on this. He also has a lot of knowledge about this. I think a betting site cannot always detect such bets in advance. They will look at the volume bet on a match, and depending on the bookmaker they will have software for this that recognizes patterns of betting. As far as I have read, this is always about less known competition. You will not see this at Barcelona - Real Madrid. Arbitrage bettors naturally get angry if their bet is canceled, as they have placed a lose bet with other bookmakers. There is also another form of arbitrage betting, those are the 50-50% matches in which you place a odds of 50% (for example 1.90) while the actual value is around 1.60. Then you don't need another bookmaker and you will always make a profit in the long run.


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January 13, 2021, 10:08:48 AM
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My question is, how do casinos identify the arbitrage bettors? There must be a shared information pool. If I had to guess, it is probably between those Curaçao license holders...
I'm going to assume honesty on the player's part with their email contents. The replies the casino has made are all along the lines of, "you may have done this, did you violate this," and it all reeks of hiding behind the ToS to exploit players.

One question regarding that game is whether there were any bettors on the losing side: did they get compensated with a voided bet because the odds they played weren't fair? It's interesting to let the casino have the authority to cancel a bet from a player due to their location: you live near the location of the event, therefore you might have known what was happening. Is it possible to see how a central entity could abuse that privilege? Something to think about.
We have a direct confrontation, interestingly enough:

"We had more users who place suddenly all their liquidity on this match, as you did the same"
"If this was the case why I choose to take most of money in DNB and not regular? Why didn't I place more money on the game if [I had] 55 mBTC in my balance?"

-- This all implies that the user was presumably playing on many matches during that time... we'd have to get bet history but isn't it possible that this is merely someone that likes to bet on their local teams?

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January 13, 2021, 02:01:02 PM
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This contains the game: Ahi Acre - Ihud Bnei Shefaram
Odds for the away team that were available on our site and where oz.kashi placed bets on:
2.74
2.5
2.28

The odds were already dropping quickly as you can see. Please check the chart here under.
As you can see, the match odds for the away team dropped to 1.33 while the score was 0-0 at the time.
We are talking about a difference from his bets (2.74) until 1.33 after 1 minute of the game.



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January 13, 2021, 02:23:47 PM
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This contains the game: Ahi Acre - Ihud Bnei Shefaram

Did you cancel this game for everybody or only the OP's bets because you think he is arbitting?

If you cancelled this game for everybody then I think it is fine, otherwise I dunno.

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January 13, 2021, 03:04:09 PM
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This contains the game: Ahi Acre - Ihud Bnei Shefaram
Odds for the away team that were available on our site and where oz.kashi placed bets on:
2.74
2.5
2.28

The odds were already dropping quickly as you can see. Please check the chart here under.
As you can see, the match odds for the away team dropped to 1.33 while the score was 0-0 at the time.
We are talking about a difference from his bets (2.74) until 1.33 after 1 minute of the game.
Do you have more details on these three bets?

Perhaps there's something I'm not understanding, but it would seem ridiculous to admonish a user for having made a good decision in their risk management - when you place bets on a market with lower volume, they may affect the odds and if the odds shifted to such a degree then it would have been obvious for most people betting on the market that the away team was a good bet.

The interesting part is when you consider the implications - at what point is a player not allowed to make a favorable bet in their eyes?

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January 13, 2021, 03:39:28 PM
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This is no longer a value bet. This is an error in the odds. It can have all kinds of reasons that the odds have dropped so hard. You usually see this when influential factors play a role. B team that shows up, for example.
The moment the information comes to the bookmaker, for sure the odds will be changed. But what if this information is already known to bettors and not to a bookmaker yet? Then we get circumstances like this. Or that 1 bookmaker has the correct information, and 10 minutes later the other one. Then you have a dark hole from 10 minutes where you can exploit it easily.
And that's the whole problem with that arbitrage betting thing. It is not illegal, but every bookmaker deals with it in their own way. Many bookmakers cancel the bet, some pay out and put a limit on the player.
And still others close the account. A value bet would be a bet of 2.10 which is normally 2.30. Not from 2.50 to 1.33
It is also best for arbitrage betters to just stay away from these kinds of matches, but apparently the temptation is too great to easily "earn" money quickly.
For me the most important is that Adkinsbet has proven that there are indeed arbitrage bets possible, and this is not only going on on their site.

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January 13, 2021, 04:28:46 PM
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It is clear that adkinsbet is a scammer and he proves it all the time. This is a normal drop at odds and many people only play at cashout. Soon there was a drop at odds from 9 to 1.05 and it gave 95 percent cashout and many people smeared thickly.cancellation of bets is equivalent to a lost license and a fine
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January 13, 2021, 05:05:28 PM
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And still others close the account. A value bet would be a bet of 2.10 which is normally 2.30. Not from 2.50 to 1.33


You seem an experience bettor, yet you keep posting such nonsense statements

Take this game for example:

https://www.betexplorer.com/handball/world/world-championship/tunisia-poland/tYhw2YuP/

Poland odds drop from 3.10 to 1.60.

Am i a cheater cause i bet on Poland at 3.10? No.

Am i an arbitrage bettor cause i bet on Poland at 3.10? No.

Am i expecting to get paid if Poland wins? Yes.

Will i get paid? Sure.

Tunisia kept best players at home. Were bookmakers aware? I don't know and it is not my business to know.

Bookmakers set the odds, according to my rating odds represented value and i took the bet.

Where is the problem?
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And still others close the account. A value bet would be a bet of 2.10 which is normally 2.30. Not from 2.50 to 1.33


You seem an experience bettor, yet you keep posting such nonsense statements

Take this game for example:

https://www.betexplorer.com/handball/world/world-championship/tunisia-poland/tYhw2YuP/

Poland odds drop from 3.10 to 1.60.

Am i a cheater cause i bet on Poland at 3.10? No.

Am i an arbitrage bettor cause i bet on Poland at 3.10? No.

Am i expecting to get paid if Poland wins? Yes.

Will i get paid? Sure.

Tunisia kept best players at home. Were bookmakers aware? I don't know and it is not my business to know.

Bookmakers set the odds, according to my rating odds represented value and i took the bet.

Where is the problem?

If there's anyone posting nonsense, it's you Spyros. Bookmakers do not determine these odds themselves.

These are automatically loaded by an API provider or Igaming provider.

I advise you to read some more information first before you try to make your opinion count.

If you really think that every bookmaker set their own odds, then you have still a lot of stuff to read before you try to understand something.

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January 13, 2021, 06:18:42 PM
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And still others close the account. A value bet would be a bet of 2.10 which is normally 2.30. Not from 2.50 to 1.33


You seem an experience bettor, yet you keep posting such nonsense statements

Take this game for example:

https://www.betexplorer.com/handball/world/world-championship/tunisia-poland/tYhw2YuP/

Poland odds drop from 3.10 to 1.60.

Am i a cheater cause i bet on Poland at 3.10? No.

Am i an arbitrage bettor cause i bet on Poland at 3.10? No.

Am i expecting to get paid if Poland wins? Yes.

Will i get paid? Sure.

Tunisia kept best players at home. Were bookmakers aware? I don't know and it is not my business to know.

Bookmakers set the odds, according to my rating odds represented value and i took the bet.

Where is the problem?


Am i an arbitrage bettor cause i bet on Poland at 3.10? No.
The answer is yes actually.

Am i expecting to get paid if Poland wins? Yes.
yes you are expecting to get paid because you do not have any knowledge about it.
The truth is that bookmaker reserve the right to void these kind of bets.

Will i get paid? Sure.
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And still others close the account. A value bet would be a bet of 2.10 which is normally 2.30. Not from 2.50 to 1.33


You seem an experience bettor, yet you keep posting such nonsense statements

Take this game for example:

https://www.betexplorer.com/handball/world/world-championship/tunisia-poland/tYhw2YuP/

Poland odds drop from 3.10 to 1.60.

Am i a cheater cause i bet on Poland at 3.10? No.

Am i an arbitrage bettor cause i bet on Poland at 3.10? No.

Am i expecting to get paid if Poland wins? Yes.

Will i get paid? Sure.

Tunisia kept best players at home. Were bookmakers aware? I don't know and it is not my business to know.

Bookmakers set the odds, according to my rating odds represented value and i took the bet.

Where is the problem?


Am i an arbitrage bettor cause i bet on Poland at 3.10? No.
The answer is yes actually.

Am i expecting to get paid if Poland wins? Yes.
yes you are expecting to get paid because you do not have any knowledge about it.
The truth is that bookmaker reserve the right to void these kind of bets.

Will i get paid? Sure.
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

Ahahahaha.

Ok i am done.

Bookies have absolute no reason to void this bet and they will not.

In fact, i always bet on such games and fortjunejack, betcoin, stake, sportbet, playbetr, gamdom, all honor those bets!

Why? Cause they are fair!

Who will void such bets? Only the scammers!

P.S Calling me an arbitrage bettor cause i bet on value, it is the clueless statement ever! Back to basics!

P.S 2. If your bookie voids those fair bets, change them asap. Sooner or later they will scam you!
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January 13, 2021, 06:28:38 PM
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Am i an arbitrage bettor cause i bet on Poland at 3.10? No.
The answer is yes actually.

Am i expecting to get paid if Poland wins? Yes.
yes you are expecting to get paid because you do not have any knowledge about it.
The truth is that bookmaker reserve the right to void these kind of bets.

Will i get paid? Sure.
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
Here's a thought experiment.

Instead of having the odds drop from 3.10 to 1.60, what happens to your answers if the number changes from 3.00 to 1.60?
What about 2.90?

At what point would you say that the gamblers have submitted valid bets? What's the arbitrary threshold and where's the logic behind the reason for those numbers?

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And still others close the account. A value bet would be a bet of 2.10 which is normally 2.30. Not from 2.50 to 1.33


You seem an experience bettor, yet you keep posting such nonsense statements

Take this game for example:

https://www.betexplorer.com/handball/world/world-championship/tunisia-poland/tYhw2YuP/

Poland odds drop from 3.10 to 1.60.

Am i a cheater cause i bet on Poland at 3.10? No.

Am i an arbitrage bettor cause i bet on Poland at 3.10? No.

Am i expecting to get paid if Poland wins? Yes.

Will i get paid? Sure.

Tunisia kept best players at home. Were bookmakers aware? I don't know and it is not my business to know.

Bookmakers set the odds, according to my rating odds represented value and i took the bet.

Where is the problem?


Am i an arbitrage bettor cause i bet on Poland at 3.10? No.
The answer is yes actually.

Am i expecting to get paid if Poland wins? Yes.
yes you are expecting to get paid because you do not have any knowledge about it.
The truth is that bookmaker reserve the right to void these kind of bets.

Will i get paid? Sure.
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

Ahahahaha.

Ok i am done.

Bookies have absolute no reason to void this bet and they will not.

In fact, i always bet on such games and fortjunejack, betcoin, stake, sportbet, playbetr, gamdom, all honor those bets!

Why? Cause they are fair!

Who will void such bets? Only the scammers!

P.S Calling me an arbitrage bettor cause i bet on value, it is the clueless statement ever! Back to basics!

Maybe it is time to stop making your self ridiculous. Your honest bookmaker Fortunejack recently voided a bet because it was also to high. I thought it dropped from 2.7 to 1.7 and they voided the bet.
Ho hang on a second, I thought you wrote "fortjunejack, betcoin, stake, sportbet, playbetr, gamdom, all honor those bets!"

Then it is of course a big coincidence that Fortunejack most recently did not honor this bet  Grin


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Quote from: spyrosc200


P.S Calling me an arbitrage bettor cause i bet on value, it is the clueless statement ever! Back to basics!



I think you have to learn what the difference is between a value bet and a sure bet. They call this also fixed betting.
Your example about the Tunesian time is not a value bet, it is a sure bet.
Value bets are slightly increased odds where you have s mall margin.


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January 13, 2021, 06:40:26 PM
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Fortunejack voided the bet due to palp/error odds, not because value betting! Spot the difference!

P.S Don't try to spot the difference. You will not cause simply you don;t want to  Grin

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P.S Calling me an arbitrage bettor cause i bet on value, it is the clueless statement ever! Back to basics!



I think you have to learn what the difference is between a value bet and a sure bet. They call this also fixed betting.
Your example about the Tunesian time is not a value bet, it is a sure bet.
Value bets are slightly increased odds where you have s mall margin.



So my bet in Tunesia is sure bet??? Why?? Who told you that i cover the bet elsewere?

In fact, what is the point of covering this good bet? To pay twice the margin in 2 bookies instead of one?

Bookies invented cash out not becouse they liked you but to make you loose your balance easier lol
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To the point, OP should get paid in every penny!
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January 13, 2021, 06:51:26 PM
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Fortunejack voided the bet due to palp/error odds, not because value betting! Spot the difference!

P.S Don't try to spot the difference. You will not cause simply you don;t want to  Grin



That is the same story. You can put a lot of things off under palp / error. That doesn't even have to be a typ error. that is purely about quotations that are not correct, and that can be justified. For whatever the reason may be. underlying thought does not matter. I think you really don't know what a value bet is, but it doesn't matter. I also didn't expect someone trying to scam gambling sites to get free money. Odds that are not correct for whatever reason, you can always blame bad views or technical views that are not good. If a bet is offered for 1.6 when the actual value should actually be around 3.2, then it also falls into this category. You may be lucky that bookmakers can pass a bet, but there are plenty of bookmakers who cancel it. It reads that you are not someone who gambles, but you are a pure arbitrage bettor, looking for holes in websites because they temporarily offer the wrong odds for a few minutes. I am just curious how you get that information. Let me guess, you're friends with LEVSKI7

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All these posts have no positive value whatsoever. People have expressed their views clearly.
Now let's wait for news from Adkinsbet or the Op.

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January 13, 2021, 06:59:43 PM
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Fortunejack voided the bet due to palp/error odds, not because value betting! Spot the difference!

P.S Don't try to spot the difference. You will not cause simply you don;t want to  Grin



That is the same story. You can put a lot of things off under palp / error. That doesn't even have to be a typ error. that is purely about quotations that are not correct, and that can be justified. For whatever the reason may be. underlying thought does not matter. I think you really don't know what a value bet is, but it doesn't matter. I also didn't expect someone trying to scam gambling sites to get free money. Odds that are not correct for whatever reason, you can always blame bad views or technical views that are not good. If a bet is offered for 1.6 when the actual value should actually be around 3.2, then it also falls into this category. You may be lucky that bookmakers can pass a bet, but there are plenty of bookmakers who cancel it. It reads that you are not someone who gambles, but you are a pure arbitrage bettor, looking for holes in websites because they temporarily offer the wrong odds for a few minutes. I am just curious how you get that information. Let me guess, you're friends with LEVSKI7

I am not friend with Levski. You seem friends with Wildan  Roll Eyes

Take another example in England FA Cup 2 days ago.

https://www.betexplorer.com/soccer/england/fa-cup/chorley-derby/MNYfOkcJ/

Chorley was priced 11.50 and closed to 1.70!

Did pinnacle paid that bet?

Of course YES! All bookies paid it.

Proof: https://imgur.com/a/FbtazTd

Personally got when odds were around 3, they would paid even if odds were 13!

According to your logic i would get voided??? Nonsense!

You guys who defend such shady practices should stop asap!

Those practices are not in line with industry standards set from giants in the industry!

Can give you dozens of such bets paid from almost every bookie worldwide if you keep posting nonsense!
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Fortunejack voided the bet due to palp/error odds, not because value betting! Spot the difference!

P.S Don't try to spot the difference. You will not cause simply you don;t want to  Grin



That is the same story. You can put a lot of things off under palp / error. That doesn't even have to be a typ error. that is purely about quotations that are not correct, and that can be justified. For whatever the reason may be. underlying thought does not matter. I think you really don't know what a value bet is, but it doesn't matter. I also didn't expect someone trying to scam gambling sites to get free money. Odds that are not correct for whatever reason, you can always blame bad views or technical views that are not good. If a bet is offered for 1.6 when the actual value should actually be around 3.2, then it also falls into this category. You may be lucky that bookmakers can pass a bet, but there are plenty of bookmakers who cancel it. It reads that you are not someone who gambles, but you are a pure arbitrage bettor, looking for holes in websites because they temporarily offer the wrong odds for a few minutes. I am just curious how you get that information. Let me guess, you're friends with LEVSKI7

I am not friend with Levski. You seem friends with Wildan  Roll Eyes

Take another example in England FA Cup 2 days ago.

https://www.betexplorer.com/soccer/england/fa-cup/chorley-derby/MNYfOkcJ/

Chorley was priced 11.50 and closed to 1.70!

Did pinnacle paid that bet?

Of course YES! All bookies paid it.

Proof: https://imgur.com/a/FbtazTd

Personally got when odds were around 3, they would paid even if odds were 13!

According to your logic i would get voided??? Nonsense!

You guys who defend such shady practices should stop asap!

Those practices are not in line with industry standards set from giants in the industry!

Can give you dozens of such bets paid from almost every bookie worldwide if you keep posting nonsense!

So you only occupy your own with these shady practices? You are not gambling actually, but only for holes in the bookmakers site and exploit them.
retard.
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January 13, 2021, 07:23:26 PM
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Fortunejack voided the bet due to palp/error odds, not because value betting! Spot the difference!

P.S Don't try to spot the difference. You will not cause simply you don;t want to  Grin



That is the same story. You can put a lot of things off under palp / error. That doesn't even have to be a typ error. that is purely about quotations that are not correct, and that can be justified. For whatever the reason may be. underlying thought does not matter. I think you really don't know what a value bet is, but it doesn't matter. I also didn't expect someone trying to scam gambling sites to get free money. Odds that are not correct for whatever reason, you can always blame bad views or technical views that are not good. If a bet is offered for 1.6 when the actual value should actually be around 3.2, then it also falls into this category. You may be lucky that bookmakers can pass a bet, but there are plenty of bookmakers who cancel it. It reads that you are not someone who gambles, but you are a pure arbitrage bettor, looking for holes in websites because they temporarily offer the wrong odds for a few minutes. I am just curious how you get that information. Let me guess, you're friends with LEVSKI7

I am not friend with Levski. You seem friends with Wildan  Roll Eyes

Take another example in England FA Cup 2 days ago.

https://www.betexplorer.com/soccer/england/fa-cup/chorley-derby/MNYfOkcJ/

Chorley was priced 11.50 and closed to 1.70!

Did pinnacle paid that bet?

Of course YES! All bookies paid it.

Proof: https://imgur.com/a/FbtazTd

Personally got when odds were around 3, they would paid even if odds were 13!

According to your logic i would get voided??? Nonsense!

You guys who defend such shady practices should stop asap!

Those practices are not in line with industry standards set from giants in the industry!

Can give you dozens of such bets paid from almost every bookie worldwide if you keep posting nonsense!

So you only occupy your own with these shady practices? You are not gambling actually, but only for holes in the bookmakers site and exploit them.
retard.


So, am i responsible cause Derby decided to throw the game and sent kids???

Are you serious???

What would happened if Chorley sent kids as well? Would my bet get voided???

Admit it, you got no idea about betting and no idea about industry standards set from giant bookies!
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Royse777 is talking about the user on the forum: realscout
Yes, this is him.

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This user is a professional arbitrage bettor/fixed betting.
All I know he is a high roller. Without bringing any evidence you can not say something just by words. This is wrong imo.

Anyway, I was busy the last two days so was not online. I just logged in half an hour ago and saw the texts from him that you banned him because I posted about it in my last post? Whatever you are doing is very wrong.

You are banning a user because he shared it with his friend personally and then friend talked about it in public. I know about this case from a few weeks ago but kept in it myself until I saw you gave the same reason to OP of this topic to freeze his money. Anyway, I am not going to waste my time to suggest you what to do and what not to.

I told him to create a scam accusation against you and also told him to create a flag. I have done my part to aware the community about your poor service, now waiting for the flag to support. I will leave the rest to others hand, and they will decide after reading the scam accusation.

Still no replay from adkinsbet of my withdrawal request
Nothing is stopping you to create a flag against them.

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January 14, 2021, 04:19:49 PM
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Royse777 is talking about the user on the forum: realscout
Yes, this is him.

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This user is a professional arbitrage bettor/fixed betting.
All I know he is a high roller. Without bringing any evidence you can not say something just by words. This is wrong imo.

Anyway, I was busy the last two days so was not online. I just logged in half an hour ago and saw the texts from him that you banned him because I posted about it in my last post? Whatever you are doing is very wrong.

You are banning a user because he shared it with his friend personally and then friend talked about it in public. I know about this case from a few weeks ago but kept in it myself until I saw you gave the same reason to OP of this topic to freeze his money. Anyway, I am not going to waste my time to suggest you what to do and what not to.

I told him to create a scam accusation against you and also told him to create a flag. I have done my part to aware the community about your poor service, now waiting for the flag to support. I will leave the rest to others hand, and they will decide after reading the scam accusation.

Still no replay from adkinsbet of my withdrawal request
Nothing is stopping you to create a flag against them.

Maybe Royse777 can explain to use why he is chasing on Adkinsbet from day 1.
The most funny thing is that Royse777 bought his account 4 years ago. I want to remind everybody that Royse777 is NOT the original owner if this account, and that he just bought it!
And then become a DT member. I remember the case with Betnomi where the owner of Betnomi published the passport from a customer on the forum so everybody could see her face!
Then Royse777 came with the wise words that betnomi admit their fault and that we should not make a big problem about it.
Are you fucking serious? You are a fucking joke Royse777. What about your alt accounts here on the forum? Yes, i know you have.
as you can see, here is a part of royse777 posting history. All Russian, then suddenly all English. Posting haps of half a year. This account was sold.
Royse777 is involved in some shady business, not sure who hired him or where is working for. but I will dig until I find out.



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January 14, 2021, 04:26:24 PM
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Maybe Royse777 can explain to use why he is chasing on Adkinsbet from day 1.
-snip-
I am not sure what relevance this has to the situation of Adkinsbet and oz.kashi in the thread.

Perhaps we can argue about intentions for arguments after we dismiss the arguments with reason rather than through ad-hominem attacks. I don't care if whether the person who ends up busting a scam is themselves a scammer or the most reputable person in the world: the contents of the message matter more than the messenger.

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Royse777 is talking about the user on the forum: realscout
Yes, this is him.

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This user is a professional arbitrage bettor/fixed betting.
All I know he is a high roller. Without bringing any evidence you can not say something just by words. This is wrong imo.

~

I would have expected a slightly higher level from you, Royse. You apparently bought this account, but that's not relevant to this discussion. What bothers me most is that you think you can call the shots on the forum. you wrote in another topic that the person in question did not even have to come up with evidence, because you believed him anyway. And now that someone else is claiming something, you indicate that you must first have proof.
Do you really think people still take you seriously after these kinds of contradictory statements?
I can not judge about the situation why Adkinsbet closed his account, but if I remember correctly it was you who told adkinsbet that they had to put the conditions in the terms and conditions if they want to close an account. They did it this way, and now they closed the account you want the user to make yellow card appeal. I think it would be better if you do not post things here anymore. The fact that you are "waiting' to give Adkinsbet a yellow card prooves enough that you are working for a competitor somewhere or are involved in some other things and you do not want Adkinsbet to be active on the forum.
get a life mate.

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January 14, 2021, 04:52:11 PM
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Sorry Oz, but the terms are violated from your side.

In the following conditions, your account may be closed by us, and will be viewed and evaluated individually by case. We reserve the right to suspend your account without notice, which will remain suspended until complete investigation of the matter. Adkinsbet remains the right to confiscate the funds if one of the terms will be violated. You commit to completely comply with all of Adkinsbet 's inquiries into such activities. We may opt to upload or close your account and confiscate the funds if one of the following conditions apply:
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If a player causes image damage to the website (Any direct / indirect accusation through any possible communication channel (e.g. forum, Email, telephone or other communication channels). This could include spreading false information, false accusations and intentionally / repeatedly putting Adkinsbet in a negative daylight.

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January 14, 2021, 04:59:07 PM
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Sorry Oz, but the terms are violated from your side.

In the following conditions, your account may be closed by us, and will be viewed and evaluated individually by case. We reserve the right to suspend your account without notice, which will remain suspended until complete investigation of the matter. Adkinsbet remains the right to confiscate the funds if one of the terms will be violated. You commit to completely comply with all of Adkinsbet 's inquiries into such activities. We may opt to upload or close your account and confiscate the funds if one of the following conditions apply:
If you have more than 1 registered account with Adkinsbet.
If the name registered on your Adkinsbet account does not match the name on the required statement from your address and or ID card. Of course, we take into consideration that all countries have different ways of express names.
If a player causes image damage to the website (Any direct / indirect accusation through any possible communication channel (e.g. forum, Email, telephone or other communication channels). This could include spreading false information, false accusations and intentionally / repeatedly putting Adkinsbet in a negative daylight.


And now you close my account. Actually i wait for that.

So final decision is not pay may money?

We will calculate the amount of deposits and withdrawals in total, and then you can withdraw your funds. After that, your account will be closed. Your account is not closed now.

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Sorry Oz, but the terms are violated from your side.

In the following conditions, your account may be closed by us, and will be viewed and evaluated individually by case. We reserve the right to suspend your account without notice, which will remain suspended until complete investigation of the matter. Adkinsbet remains the right to confiscate the funds if one of the terms will be violated. You commit to completely comply with all of Adkinsbet 's inquiries into such activities. We may opt to upload or close your account and confiscate the funds if one of the following conditions apply:
If you have more than 1 registered account with Adkinsbet.
If the name registered on your Adkinsbet account does not match the name on the required statement from your address and or ID card. Of course, we take into consideration that all countries have different ways of express names.
If a player causes image damage to the website (Any direct / indirect accusation through any possible communication channel (e.g. forum, Email, telephone or other communication channels). This could include spreading false information, false accusations and intentionally / repeatedly putting Adkinsbet in a negative daylight.


And now you close my account. Actually i wait for that.

So final decision is not pay may money?

We will calculate the amount of deposits and withdrawals in total, and then you can withdraw your funds. After that, your account will be closed. Your account is not closed now.

It would be good if this situation would be finally solved. It would have been better if they pay the customer more quickly, but maybe they had to check some things before to do so. At least he get his deposits back.

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If a player causes image damage to the website (Any direct / indirect accusation through any possible communication channel (e.g. forum, Email, telephone or other communication channels). This could include spreading false information, false accusations and intentionally / repeatedly putting Adkinsbet in a negative daylight.
This rule is what we call, "get out of jail free".

Imagine you let a casino conduct their own investigation with no transparency, carry on over multiple months, and allow them to use a catch-22 rule which basically turns them into the final arbiter of any situation. If such behavior is allowed, here is an example of how such a centralized authority could exploit such a process:

Target low-volume markets where a significant sum is placed on one result whose odds decrease.
Void the bet in the case of a win, which is presumably more likely due to the larger number of bettors predicting the result.
In the case of anyone complaining, go after them with every single ToS violation you can think of.
Continue delaying them and hope that they either give up or decide to bet the rest and lose.
If anything happens, you invoke the "image damage" rule and take their funds anyway when they show their situation to the public.

It's okay: as long as it's under ToS that means it's absolutely binding and legitimate under all circumstances.

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January 14, 2021, 05:08:38 PM
Last edit: January 14, 2021, 05:20:00 PM by Royse777
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get a life mate.
Buddy! You sounds like too angry because something I am doing which is going against adkinsbet. adkinsbet were the one who were suppose to be angry here not you or some other users on a sudden left me some feedback after leaving this post and tagging adkinsbet. I am also getting accused of saying that I am using my DT power. What a shame.

Do I really look like that I am using my DT power? Do I really look like that this is first time I am involved in a scam accusation? Is this first time I am trying to help users who come to this forum with a hope that they will get justice?

You and them other users who left me those feedback (does not effect me by the way or stop me of the things I do) really never followed me or some of you would know why I left posting regularly in the local section. I have said them in posts in the past. But you would not care anyway.



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I do not have time to respond all the BS popping up right after tagging the bookie. I would rather look for the next guy to help him with the information they need in the forum.

Take care.

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January 14, 2021, 05:09:44 PM
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Sorry Oz, but the terms are violated from your side.

In the following conditions, your account may be closed by us, and will be viewed and evaluated individually by case. We reserve the right to suspend your account without notice, which will remain suspended until complete investigation of the matter. Adkinsbet remains the right to confiscate the funds if one of the terms will be violated. You commit to completely comply with all of Adkinsbet 's inquiries into such activities. We may opt to upload or close your account and confiscate the funds if one of the following conditions apply:
If you have more than 1 registered account with Adkinsbet.
If the name registered on your Adkinsbet account does not match the name on the required statement from your address and or ID card. Of course, we take into consideration that all countries have different ways of express names.
If a player causes image damage to the website (Any direct / indirect accusation through any possible communication channel (e.g. forum, Email, telephone or other communication channels). This could include spreading false information, false accusations and intentionally / repeatedly putting Adkinsbet in a negative daylight.


And now you close my account. Actually i wait for that.

So final decision is not pay may money?

We will calculate the amount of deposits and withdrawals in total, and then you can withdraw your funds. After that, your account will be closed. Your account is not closed now.


Great. Any reason why there is live bet in my account??
There is 2 open bets in odds of 16.3
https://ibb.co/H2dKWyC

wow

I know of a similar case. Placed bets by someone else and not the owner of the account.

Adkinsbet scammed me for 0.44003 BTC

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5310071.0
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January 14, 2021, 05:11:15 PM
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Sorry Oz, but the terms are violated from your side.

In the following conditions, your account may be closed by us, and will be viewed and evaluated individually by case. We reserve the right to suspend your account without notice, which will remain suspended until complete investigation of the matter. Adkinsbet remains the right to confiscate the funds if one of the terms will be violated. You commit to completely comply with all of Adkinsbet 's inquiries into such activities. We may opt to upload or close your account and confiscate the funds if one of the following conditions apply:
If you have more than 1 registered account with Adkinsbet.
If the name registered on your Adkinsbet account does not match the name on the required statement from your address and or ID card. Of course, we take into consideration that all countries have different ways of express names.
If a player causes image damage to the website (Any direct / indirect accusation through any possible communication channel (e.g. forum, Email, telephone or other communication channels). This could include spreading false information, false accusations and intentionally / repeatedly putting Adkinsbet in a negative daylight.


And now you close my account. Actually i wait for that.

So final decision is not pay may money?

We will calculate the amount of deposits and withdrawals in total, and then you can withdraw your funds. After that, your account will be closed. Your account is not closed now.


Great. Any reason why there is live bet in my account??
There is 2 open bets in odds of 16.3
https://ibb.co/H2dKWyC

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January 14, 2021, 05:12:38 PM
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If a player causes image damage to the website (Any direct / indirect accusation through any possible communication channel (e.g. forum, Email, telephone or other communication channels). This could include spreading false information, false accusations and intentionally / repeatedly putting Adkinsbet in a negative daylight.
This rule is what we call, "get out of jail free".

Imagine you let a casino conduct their own investigation with no transparency, carry on over multiple months, and allow them to use a catch-22 rule which basically turns them into the final arbiter of any situation. If such behavior is allowed, here is an example of how such a centralized authority could exploit such a process:

Target low-volume markets where a significant sum is placed on one result whose odds decrease.
Void the bet in the case of a win, which is presumably more likely due to the larger number of bettors predicting the result.
In the case of anyone complaining, go after them with every single ToS violation you can think of.
Continue delaying them and hope that they either give up or decide to bet the rest and lose.
If anything happens, you invoke the "image damage" rule and take their funds anyway when they show their situation to the public.

It's okay: as long as it's under ToS that means it's absolutely binding and legitimate under all circumstances.

You are probably so familiar with this rule because your employer Sportsbet.io has often conned many customers in other ways   Smiley

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January 14, 2021, 05:12:56 PM
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Great. Any reason why there is live bet in my account??
There is 2 open bets in odds of 16.3
https://ibb.co/H2dKWyC
Can you screen-cast it please. Video record the screen also make sure you refresh the page. I would believe you but there will be users who might say that it was faked that sometimes screenshots can be faked.

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January 14, 2021, 05:16:17 PM
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Great. Any reason why there is live bet in my account??
There is 2 open bets in odds of 16.3
https://ibb.co/H2dKWyC
What were the details of these bets?

Looks like the bets were placed at 16:57:45, 16:58:01 UTC - the game began at 16:30 UTC.
There's no logical reason for the bets to have been made.

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January 14, 2021, 05:17:26 PM
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Royse, you are using your DT level here on the forum. That is really a shame. You are doing some business with your friend realsout, that is fine but don't make a joke of yourself here on the forum

Very funny that it were your words that people have to come up with evidence, and you write that you just believe people.

There was a user who did not have any evidence, and you just tell him the story is true?

Didn't they write that they give the user back his money from the deposits? They could also have chosen to keep the money.

In any case, it is solved in this way and the user gets their money back. The general terms and conditions seem binding to me.

Your story about local posts is complete nonsense of course. I checked the way of writing, completely different. Your account changed hands in 2017.

That is your own thing, but do not try to abuse your DT status.

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January 14, 2021, 05:20:19 PM
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Great. Any reason why there is live bet in my account??
There is 2 open bets in odds of 16.3
https://ibb.co/H2dKWyC
What were the details of these bets?

Looks like the bets were placed at 16:57:45, 16:58:01 UTC - the game began at 16:30 UTC.
There's no logical reason for the bets to have been made.

The bets do not make any sense in normal circumstances. Perhaps the user was full of frustration and anger that he considered his money as lost anyway and decided to make a big gamble with it.
People can do strange things under emotions. What if the bet will win? Then he is very rich.

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January 14, 2021, 05:22:03 PM
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Great. Any reason why there is live bet in my account??
There is 2 open bets in odds of 16.3
https://ibb.co/H2dKWyC
What were the details of these bets?

Looks like the bets were placed at 16:57:45, 16:58:01 UTC - the game began at 16:30 UTC.
There's no logical reason for the bets to have been made.

The bets do not make any sense in normal circumstances. Perhaps the user was full of frustration and anger that he considered his money as lost anyway and decided to make a big gamble with it.
People can do strange things under emotions. What if the bet will win? Then he is very rich.

are u serious 10k$ with 2 bets on 16 odds on bookie that doesnt pay less sums?
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January 14, 2021, 05:25:34 PM
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You are probably so familiar with this rule because your employer Sportsbet.io has often conned many customers in other ways   Smiley
Are you simply here to cast irrelevant and unfounded ad-hominem into the thread? It's weird to see you assuming that I'm being employed by Sportsbet when I'm ousting their use of the exact same ToS scheme in this thread:

I create a website dedicated for gambling. Outlined within the ToS are a few clauses that allow me to arbitrarily freeze player balances, all fit under one nice long section. One of them is based on if I have suspicion that they are using multiple accounts or money laundering. Another is simply, if at my discretion, I determine that you or your account is detrimental to the conduct of my business. I use this to freeze player balances when they win. When questioned, I respond that they violated the ToS by stating that they violated the section containing those clauses. I do not provide any evidence and then state, "we'll return the deposit though."

Fair, or not fair?

I don't shill for any casino, and if you refuse to use the actual content of the replies to construct your responses instead of jumping to random deflections, then there's no point in continuing any good-faith replies.

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January 14, 2021, 05:27:29 PM
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Great. Any reason why there is live bet in my account??
There is 2 open bets in odds of 16.3
https://ibb.co/H2dKWyC
What were the details of these bets?

Looks like the bets were placed at 16:57:45, 16:58:01 UTC - the game began at 16:30 UTC.
There's no logical reason for the bets to have been made.

The bets do not make any sense in normal circumstances. Perhaps the user was full of frustration and anger that he considered his money as lost anyway and decided to make a big gamble with it.
People can do strange things under emotions. What if the bet will win? Then he is very rich.

are u serious 10k$ with 2 bets on 16 odds on bookie that doesnt pay less sums?

For you it should be a small amount, since Royse777 told us  you are a high roller.

Or what about this? is this your way of making money, sending people to stadiums to fix matches?

And let me guess, Royse777 is involved into this as well! With his bought account he wanted to get some DT status to cover your ass.


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January 14, 2021, 05:30:03 PM
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Very funny that it were your words that people have to come up with evidence, and you write that you just believe people.

There was a user who did not have any evidence, and you just tell him the story is true?
You know what it's called? It's called playing with words and stop trying with me.

If I would use my DT power then I would tag all of you already because you are doing everything to defend a bookie who are clearly doing shady things not to pay their clients. Good for you and others that I am not misusing the responsibility I am given from he community. I am well aware that how far you all can go against a user who will not satisfy you. Chose a right reason and you will be rewarded. By doing what you are doing with a Legendary account is not expected.

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January 14, 2021, 05:34:04 PM
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Very funny that it were your words that people have to come up with evidence, and you write that you just believe people.

There was a user who did not have any evidence, and you just tell him the story is true?
You know what it's called? It's called playing with words and stop trying with me.

If I would use my DT power then I would tag all of you already because you are doing everything to defend a bookie who are clearly doing shady things not to pay their clients. Good for you and others that I am not misusing the responsibility I am given from he community. I am well aware that how far you all can go against a user who will not satisfy you. Chose a right reason and you will be rewarded. By doing what you are doing with a Legendary account is not expected.

And you are doing anything to attack Adkinsbet  Grin
And your account was 100% sold. Nobody is interested in your baseless arguments.

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January 14, 2021, 05:34:28 PM
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dont talk trash man we all know  you are working for sportsbet.io you even announced the winners in there forum where you had that avatar from donald trump do you think we are stupid
I suppose LoyceV works for the forum because he posts public data in his threads as well.

I suppose you're also an Adkinsbet shill because you're supporting them in this thread now, because we can't have nuanced opinions in your peabrained ideological reality.
This thread is getting stormed with an insane (and inane) amount of random commentary.


I hope that there aren't any account farmers in the bushes here, because I'm about to start cracking down on their spam posts in the shit boards again. But obviously we only use one account on the forum.

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January 14, 2021, 05:39:14 PM
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Great. Any reason why there is live bet in my account??
There is 2 open bets in odds of 16.3
https://ibb.co/H2dKWyC
What were the details of these bets?

Looks like the bets were placed at 16:57:45, 16:58:01 UTC - the game began at 16:30 UTC.
There's no logical reason for the bets to have been made.

The bets do not make any sense in normal circumstances. Perhaps the user was full of frustration and anger that he considered his money as lost anyway and decided to make a big gamble with it.
People can do strange things under emotions. What if the bet will win? Then he is very rich.

are u serious 10k$ with 2 bets on 16 odds on bookie that doesnt pay less sums?

For you it should be a small amount, since Royse777 told us  you are a high roller.

Or what about this? is this your way of making money, sending people to stadiums to fix matches?

And let me guess, Royse777 is involved into this as well! With his bought account he wanted to get some DT status to cover your ass.



i already answered about this as far as u like to dig up posts u can find that one too. how can u be that ignorant about 1xbet and their clones stake players' money on losing bets? u can find dozens of cases on the web. and specially for u that user posted his whole betting activity if u check it it should make it obvious for u that the last bets have been placed not by him.
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I hope that there aren't any account farmers in the bushes here, because I'm about to start cracking down on their spam posts in the shit boards again. But obviously we only use one account on the forum.
I think it's time to ignore some users for few days until things get cool up :-D

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January 14, 2021, 06:07:34 PM
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Once again the same people who defend Atkinsbet shady practices from the beginning are trying to screw the reputation of everyone who is complain against those shady practices! How predictable that was  Grin

As already proved via screenshots from other bookie giants who set industry standards, OP deserves every cent from his winnings! Not even a penny less!

Can upload dozens of screenshots with similar bets being paid from many reputable books if needed, including bitsler, forjunejack, betcoin, sportbet.io etc!

Adkinsbet have absolute no reason voiding a bet by claiming that a game was fixed just because odds were dropped!

Does betradar inform you that game was manipulate? NO

So pay that guy his full balance!

He deserves every penny!
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January 14, 2021, 07:12:46 PM
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Once again the same people who defend Atkinsbet shady practices from the beginning are trying to screw the reputation of everyone who is complain against those shady practices! How predictable that was  Grin

As already proved via screenshots from other bookie giants who set industry standards, OP deserves every cent from his winnings! Not even a penny less!

Can upload dozens of screenshots with similar bets being paid from many reputable books if needed, including bitsler, forjunejack, betcoin, sportbet.io etc!

Adkinsbet have absolute no reason voiding a bet by claiming that a game was fixed just because odds were dropped!

Does betradar inform you that game was manipulate? NO

So pay that guy his full balance!

He deserves every penny!

Once again the same people like you always attacking Adkinsbet  Grin
Spoken about shady practices. I read what you did to steal money from bookmakers.
If somebody is involved in shady practices, its def you.
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January 14, 2021, 07:26:44 PM
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I just checked out Oz.Kashi's account through management. He has placed bets with his credit, so unfortunately we cannot pay out anymore since there is no balance in his account.
What I don't really understand is why he wagered this amount, since I had already indicated that he would get his deposits back and that his account would be closed afterwards.
I'm afraid I can't do anything anymore.

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January 14, 2021, 07:32:11 PM
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Once again the same people who defend Atkinsbet shady practices from the beginning are trying to screw the reputation of everyone who is complain against those shady practices! How predictable that was  Grin

As already proved via screenshots from other bookie giants who set industry standards, OP deserves every cent from his winnings! Not even a penny less!

Can upload dozens of screenshots with similar bets being paid from many reputable books if needed, including bitsler, forjunejack, betcoin, sportbet.io etc!

Adkinsbet have absolute no reason voiding a bet by claiming that a game was fixed just because odds were dropped!

Does betradar inform you that game was manipulate? NO

So pay that guy his full balance!

He deserves every penny!

Once again the same people like you always attacking Adkinsbet  Grin
Spoken about shady practices. I read what you did to steal money from bookmakers.
If somebody is involved in shady practices, its def you.

Yeah yeah, value betting is ''shady practises''.

How much lower you can get in order to defend Adkinsbet shady practises.

OP deserves every penny!
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January 14, 2021, 07:47:53 PM
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You really have to learn something about "value betting".
What you are doing is no value betting, its exploiting the holes in a bookmaker site because you have inside information about matches and then exploit it.
The only interesting is where you get that inside information from. Do you mind to share that with us?

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January 14, 2021, 07:52:00 PM
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@oz.kashi
Can you please share your screenshots with me on support Email? Are you sure that nobody else has access to your account?
If somebody else had access to your account, we can provide you the IP login on the Email, but not on the forum to investigate this matter.
We already informed you via Email that you are using multiple IP addresses to login, which could be dangerous if you are using internet connections on public locations.

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January 14, 2021, 08:01:43 PM
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@oz.kashi
Can you please share your screenshots with me on support Email? Are you sure that nobody else has access to your account?
If somebody else had access to your account, we can provide you the IP login on the Email, but not on the forum to investigate this matter.
We already informed you via Email that you are using multiple IP addresses to login, which could be dangerous if you are using internet connections on public locations.
All login was from my and my only access  ! No one have access to my account or my password or anything else!!
the different I.p that you see is because in our country static I.p isn’t in most of connection.
The account was close. I send you a message about that. You replay back that you will let me withdraw and the account is open. How can I place bets?!?

I already post https://ibb.co/H2dKWyC
https://ibb.co/bJvd303
https://ibb.co/XYXdfpb

Please send us an Email. We are not going to discuss the IP history in here.
Your account was open. When you made the bet and the bet was lost and your balance 0, we have closed the account.

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January 14, 2021, 08:05:26 PM
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Please send us an Email. We are not going to discuss the IP history in here.
Your account was open. When you made the bet and the bet was lost and your balance 0, we have closed the account.
What kind of a person would bet on the "Over 2.5 Goals In First Half" market when there are only 15 minutes to go and none of the teams have scored even once? https://www.sofascore.com/sassuolo-spal/TfbsfAV

Never mind the fact that they're wrapped up in this situation where their funds are supposed to be tied up.
Did the user attempt to withdraw their funds before the bet was made? Were such withdrawal attempts accepted?

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January 14, 2021, 08:19:16 PM
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You really have to learn something about "value betting".
What you are doing is no value betting, its exploiting the holes in a bookmaker site because you have inside information about matches and then exploit it.
The only interesting is where you get that inside information from. Do you mind to share that with us?


I am exploiting nothing.

Traders give the odds and if according to my ratings odds represents value, i take them.

You can continue taking ''Barcelona win to nil'', bookies love such customers  Grin

Where do i find those infos? I like watching exotic leagues, reading local newspapers, highlights from games 12h a day.

Is this a problem for you?

Am i doing something wrong?

Why a bookie should even care whereas i found those infos!

Their job is to give odds and my job is to bet on them!

You guys got no idea about value betting lol.

OP should sent his complaint to Casinomeister, thepogg, sbr and so many other places. If you want any guidance sent me P.M

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You really have to learn something about "value betting".
What you are doing is no value betting, its exploiting the holes in a bookmaker site because you have inside information about matches and then exploit it.
The only interesting is where you get that inside information from. Do you mind to share that with us?


I am exploiting nothing.

Traders give the odds and if according to my ratings odds represents value, i take them.

You can continue taking ''Barcelona win to nil'', bookies love such customers  Grin

Where do i find those infos? I like watching exotic leagues, reading local newspapers, highlights from games 12h a day.

Is this a problem for you?

Am i doing something wrong?

Why a bookie should even care whereas i found those infos!

Their job is to give odds and my job is to bet on them!

You guys got no idea about value betting lol.

OP should sent his complaint to Casinomeister, thepogg, sbr and so many other places. If you want any guidance sent me P.M



spyro, I need help also.

Can't send you PM

OP, I would also like to contact you with some info.

Adkinsbet scammed me for 0.44003 BTC

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5310071.0
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January 14, 2021, 11:55:49 PM
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This is fucking disgusting. I hope these crooks get their punishment some day. I am really sorry for your lose your kashi.

My posts are not an incentive for investing, always do your own home work.
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January 16, 2021, 01:38:48 PM
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Still will wait for replay from adkinsbet as they didn’t understand why I sent them an email..
Now I see that there is active flag in their main topic.

I am expecting their reply on this topic and adkinsbet forum account was active today. I don't know they are ignoring this topic or not but after reading all the replies of this topic i will suggest every single gambler to keep proper distance from this platform.

Lets wait for their final reply and see what they got for us. 


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January 17, 2021, 09:06:14 PM
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oz.kashi wanted to withdraw many times.

Just update.
Adkinsbet declined my withdrawal again this is the 6 withdrawal attempt that cancel in my account.

They wanted to withdraw before those bets were made, never mind voided.

How about this? oz.kashi can provide an Bitcoin address for AdkinsBet to pay to directly so we can avoid this betting nonsense. Is there seriously going to be a problem voiding just one more bet?

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January 18, 2021, 10:54:37 AM
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Got a replay from site.
They suggest me to place bet on the second outcome in thier site !? This is ridiculous.

i didnt place those bets jusy want my money back!

Now I am a little bit confused here. How they can ask from you to place a bet (we ignore this frivolity that they suggest you where to put the bet) if they are in their last post says that is your balance 0 there?
So, you still have some balance there, I guess you have not to make a deposit in the meantime. what happened?

Your account was open. When you made the bet and the bet was lost and your balance 0, we have closed the account.

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January 18, 2021, 11:00:22 AM
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So, you still have some balance there, I guess you have not to make a deposit in the meantime. what happened?

Assuming malice, the casino would probably exit scam on the 20th when the game ends.

Assuming anything else, it's a bit strange that they would email him to tell him the account was open even though he placed a bet: if he placed the bet then he obviously knew. What?
You replied with the wrong account, actmyname.
Stop deflecting the thread.

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January 18, 2021, 12:21:08 PM
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Assuming malice, the casino would probably exit scam on the 20th when the game ends.
At this point AdkinsBET is preparing an exit scam and I too have this thinking in mind. Considering they decided to pay realscout 5 mBTC a week and placing bet's from oz.kashi account. They can't be so dumb to think that we all are not bunches of fools that we can not sense right and wrong.

I am also having a feeling that they do not have enough funds to run a gambling business to which led me to ask my third question, in this post.

If we consider AdkinsBET is preparing the exit scam (we will wait) then perhaps these cases will be closed and the accusers will lose their money unfortunately.

Question raise:

What will we do with the users who were blatantly supporting AskinsBET shady behaviour and helped them to exit scam? There are users who gone too far in their support to defend the shady activities in public.
Some of them are here not all:
MI6, BlackFor3st, BTCGOLD, yayayo, VanityWallets2015, gadado, wildan88, BitcoinAccepted and more.

Some of these accounts were accused to be game-protect's alt but obviously without solid proof we can not take any action against them in this matter.

But, what should be done if these same group of users will do the same when another shady gambling site will pop up to scam users again? The same people behind adkinsbet may come up with another brand name and the same group of users may defend their shady activities, we will never know.

Shall we do not do anything against these shady defenders even after knowing their bad wills and considering that people has their freedom of opinion? Fact is, many of the posts from them were not opinions but a clear attempt to harass anyone who speaks against adkinsbet to defend adkinsbet's shady activities.

Sorry about this off-topic part oz.kashi. If anyone wants to create a topic in the reputation section then feel free to do so, I am too busy to do that right now.

Anyway, I would like to hear community opinion in this matter.

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January 18, 2021, 01:30:54 PM
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Assuming malice, the casino would probably exit scam on the 20th when the game ends.
At this point AdkinsBET is preparing an exit scam and I too have this thinking in mind. Considering they decided to pay realscout 5 mBTC a week and placing bet's from oz.kashi account. They can't be so dumb to think that we all are not bunches of fools that we can not sense right and wrong.

I am also having a feeling that they do not have enough funds to run a gambling business to which led me to ask my third question, in this post.

If we consider AdkinsBET is preparing the exit scam (we will wait) then perhaps these cases will be closed and the accusers will lose their money unfortunately.

Also this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5310071.0
Refuse to allow withdrawals and changing user bets.

I agree they haven't enough money to operate and the only question is when exit scam will happen. Things got completely out of their control.
Even many accusations come from Newbies here, which is the main argument in AdkinsBET defence. but if this is an organized attack were one or two persons come on his casino, change bets, make false withdraw/deposits or whatever, their platform can’t control it all, then it is better to stop doing this business.

Shall we do not do anything against these shady defenders even after knowing their bad wills and considering that people has their freedom of opinion? Fact is, many of the posts from them were not opinions but a clear attempt to harass anyone who speaks against adkinsbet to defend adkinsbet's shady activities.

AdkinsBET still has a chance to solve all of these problems and get some trust back. They certainly need to be given a chance. The epilogue will further influence their supporters

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they are for casino only
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January 20, 2021, 10:27:27 PM
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I just love how those accounts are defending them and saying you are mad because "you" gambled your money when it's obvious that the site is doing it.

Adkinsbet scammed me for 0.44003 BTC

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January 24, 2021, 02:31:42 PM
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I asked if AdkinsBET had ever signed a wallet to prove they were solvent but nobody replied. Cloudbet and others have done it when they were asked to do so by members in this forum so why is AdkinsBET avoiding it?

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January 26, 2021, 11:54:41 PM
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I just love how those accounts are defending them and saying you are mad because "you" gambled your money when it's obvious that the site is doing it.

AdkinsBET seems to have a lot of support shilling for them  Roll Eyes

About the wallet, did they ever sign a wallet to prove they were solvent?

I mentioned previously that Cloudbet and others have done it when they were asked to do so by members in this forum so why is AdkinsBET avoiding it?

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January 27, 2021, 01:33:50 PM
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Anyone can help me with them?
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I'm sorry, but no one can help you!
at the very beginning of Adkinsbet's work, I wrote how they deceive their clients!
Adkinsbet lures his clients to make deposits, and then they look for a reason how not to pay them money!
This is a scam bookmaker and this is 100% one owner with 1xbet and 1xbit - other scam bookmakers! They just ignore any complaints.
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January 27, 2021, 07:34:02 PM
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This is a scam bookmaker and this is 100% one owner with 1xbet and 1xbit - other scam bookmakers! They just ignore any complaints.

I assume you have some evidence for these claims?
It is completely useless to post comments like this if you can't substantiate it with at least a shred of evidence. Don't get me wrong, I'm not advocating Adkinsbet's side, I just want to get the facts and find out the real truth.
And, comments like yours only add unnecessary noise to this discussion.

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January 27, 2021, 07:58:03 PM
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This is a scam bookmaker and this is 100% one owner with 1xbet and 1xbit - other scam bookmakers! They just ignore any complaints.

I assume you have some evidence for these claims?
It is completely useless to post comments like this if you can't substantiate it with at least a shred of evidence. Don't get me wrong, I'm not advocating Adkinsbet's side, I just want to get the facts and find out the real truth.
And, comments like yours only add unnecessary noise to this discussion.



He has no proof, because there is not any Wink. Maybe he will turn it on and it will both go to a Cloudflare server, since that is the firewall. Cloudflare is used by 99% of the betting sites.
Perhaps he will write later that they are all copies of 1xbet. I am also very curious about his "proof". This guys is good in trolling. Since his knowledge is very poor, he could better spent his time into gaining some knowledge instead of making false accusations as usual.

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January 28, 2021, 12:37:56 PM
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This is a scam bookmaker and this is 100% one owner with 1xbet and 1xbit - other scam bookmakers! They just ignore any complaints.

I assume you have some evidence for these claims?
It is completely useless to post comments like this if you can't substantiate it with at least a shred of evidence. Don't get me wrong, I'm not advocating Adkinsbet's side, I just want to get the facts and find out the real truth.
And, comments like yours only add unnecessary noise to this discussion.


He has no proof, because there is not any Wink. Maybe he will turn it on and it will both go to a Cloudflare server, since that is the firewall. Cloudflare is used by 99% of the betting sites.
Perhaps he will write later that they are all copies of 1xbet. I am also very curious about his "proof". This guys is good in trolling. Since his knowledge is very poor, he could better spent his time into gaining some knowledge instead of making false accusations as usual.

Well, excessive shilling for a casino doesn't help either. I'm trying to demonstrate a bit of objectivity here.

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January 28, 2021, 02:19:25 PM
 #113

If a user is displaying a signature then jumps to the defence of their employer or if the account is a sock-puppet purchased in order to pump propaganda then either way they usually get caught out one day.

You are right shilling or excessive shilling does not help. Shilling is always frowned upon in the forum.


This is a scam bookmaker and this is 100% one owner with 1xbet and 1xbit - other scam bookmakers! They just ignore any complaints.

I assume you have some evidence for these claims?
It is completely useless to post comments like this if you can't substantiate it with at least a shred of evidence. Don't get me wrong, I'm not advocating Adkinsbet's side, I just want to get the facts and find out the real truth.
And, comments like yours only add unnecessary noise to this discussion.


He has no proof, because there is not any Wink. Maybe he will turn it on and it will both go to a Cloudflare server, since that is the firewall. Cloudflare is used by 99% of the betting sites.
Perhaps he will write later that they are all copies of 1xbet. I am also very curious about his "proof". This guys is good in trolling. Since his knowledge is very poor, he could better spent his time into gaining some knowledge instead of making false accusations as usual.

Well, excessive shilling for a casino doesn't help either. I'm trying to demonstrate a bit of objectivity here.

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January 28, 2021, 03:33:59 PM
 #114

If a user is displaying a signature then jumps to the defence of their employer or if the account is a sock-puppet purchased in order to pump propaganda then either way they usually get caught out one day.

You are right shilling or excessive shilling does not help. Shilling is always frowned upon in the forum.


This is a scam bookmaker and this is 100% one owner with 1xbet and 1xbit - other scam bookmakers! They just ignore any complaints.

I assume you have some evidence for these claims?
It is completely useless to post comments like this if you can't substantiate it with at least a shred of evidence. Don't get me wrong, I'm not advocating Adkinsbet's side, I just want to get the facts and find out the real truth.
And, comments like yours only add unnecessary noise to this discussion.


He has no proof, because there is not any Wink. Maybe he will turn it on and it will both go to a Cloudflare server, since that is the firewall. Cloudflare is used by 99% of the betting sites.
Perhaps he will write later that they are all copies of 1xbet. I am also very curious about his "proof". This guys is good in trolling. Since his knowledge is very poor, he could better spent his time into gaining some knowledge instead of making false accusations as usual.

Well, excessive shilling for a casino doesn't help either. I'm trying to demonstrate a bit of objectivity here.

Everbody knows that you are hired to slender Adkinsbet.com

This is very interesting post from somebody:

Funny how jollygood is still trying to criticise people for pushing yobit when his pal was running their sig campaign and he said nothing to them LOL

Jollygood is a double standards scum bag.

Research for yourselves. It was pointed out to him that his other mates lauda and mozprognoz trying to ensure a scammer jollygood claimed to have busted worked with them on their reintroduction to the forum under another alt.

He didnt dare say shit to them.

Jollygood is a total weasel. Like all the other weasels on DT they will tell you that you should have a red tag for thing they let their pals get away with and even worse.

Then scum like stompix comes along as sticks up for them? Why because they all collude to control DT so they get to milk the forum with all the best sig spots and other rev streams.

Don't  let them tell you otherwise.

Conclusion is that jollygood as corrupt as hell and the whole DT system on the site is one big joke. To many corrupt DT members!
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January 28, 2021, 06:21:01 PM
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Conclusion is that jollygood as corrupt as hell and the whole DT system on the site is one big joke. To many corrupt DT members!

That's your conclusion? Based on what? One post from random user on the forum?
Let's just stick to the facts, okay?

Btw, can you please explain why you wear AdkinsBet banner in your signature?  Wink

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February 01, 2021, 01:29:02 PM
 #116

Absolute lie  Roll Eyes

How many sock-puppets does Adkinsbet actually operate? Ray, be honest about this and tell the forum how many accounts Adkinsbet operate in the forum to spread propaganda and the narrative that you want to push out?

If a user is displaying a signature then jumps to the defence of their employer or if the account is a sock-puppet purchased in order to pump propaganda then either way they usually get caught out one day.

You are right shilling or excessive shilling does not help. Shilling is always frowned upon in the forum.


This is a scam bookmaker and this is 100% one owner with 1xbet and 1xbit - other scam bookmakers! They just ignore any complaints.

I assume you have some evidence for these claims?
It is completely useless to post comments like this if you can't substantiate it with at least a shred of evidence. Don't get me wrong, I'm not advocating Adkinsbet's side, I just want to get the facts and find out the real truth.
And, comments like yours only add unnecessary noise to this discussion.


He has no proof, because there is not any Wink. Maybe he will turn it on and it will both go to a Cloudflare server, since that is the firewall. Cloudflare is used by 99% of the betting sites.
Perhaps he will write later that they are all copies of 1xbet. I am also very curious about his "proof". This guys is good in trolling. Since his knowledge is very poor, he could better spent his time into gaining some knowledge instead of making false accusations as usual.

Well, excessive shilling for a casino doesn't help either. I'm trying to demonstrate a bit of objectivity here.

Everbody knows that you are hired to slender Adkinsbet.com

This is very interesting post from somebody:

Funny how jollygood is still trying to criticise people for pushing yobit when his pal was running their sig campaign and he said nothing to them LOL

Jollygood is a double standards scum bag.

Research for yourselves. It was pointed out to him that his other mates lauda and mozprognoz trying to ensure a scammer jollygood claimed to have busted worked with them on their reintroduction to the forum under another alt.

He didnt dare say shit to them.

Jollygood is a total weasel. Like all the other weasels on DT they will tell you that you should have a red tag for thing they let their pals get away with and even worse.

Then scum like stompix comes along as sticks up for them? Why because they all collude to control DT so they get to milk the forum with all the best sig spots and other rev streams.

Don't  let them tell you otherwise.

Conclusion is that jollygood as corrupt as hell and the whole DT system on the site is one big joke. To many corrupt DT members!

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March 07, 2021, 10:51:31 AM
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lets make a topic on gambling section that imbeciles are back
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March 08, 2021, 02:27:47 AM
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lets make a topic on gambling section that imbeciles are back

what for? their new thread is in gambling board and it is safe to assume the majority of the member that is a gambler or members actively visit the board already knew that they are back. a new thread saying that they are back would jsut be pointless at this point.

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March 09, 2021, 02:06:45 PM
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lets make a topic on gambling section that imbeciles are back

what for? their new thread is in gambling board and it is safe to assume the majority of the member that is a gambler or members actively visit the board already knew that they are back. a new thread saying that they are back would jsut be pointless at this point.

new warning topic so new users wont suffer as many others did...
that wont apply for Adkins only but for every other scam proven imbeciles
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March 09, 2021, 03:16:02 PM
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They invested in creating their website and they want to maximise their profit so it is no surprise the scammers are back. In the end they should have remained honest and operate their website with dignity but it is clear their Adkinsbet website is just a front to selective scam people before they exit scam and they are using sock-puppet accounts in the forum to generate misdirection and fake buzz.

I feel sorry for all the victims of Adkinsbet scam and other all crypto scams.


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