Selling ready2run gambling platform!

[amphoras]

Because we had a ton of leads and sold our last prepackaged platform, we're now selling a new branded prepackaged gambling platform on here.



Ready2run platform includes domain name (insane.bet), tech support & consultancy.

Tech support & software license we supply through https://my.cazinogroup.com. Our software is certified & regulated by eCOGRA (https://secure.ecogra.biz/6e85dbf7-07a1-4c0e-a3f6-41f206b2bdd4/) and comply with any gambling regulation.

Domain & preview: https://insane.bet - feel free to check preview.
Software itself: all stock features from our software package: 15 games, various bonus systems, provably fair kernel, discord automated bot, VIP system etc. (https://my.cazinogroup.com/#section-2) + challenges (make goals/reward from admin panel) module custom made for this platform.

Contact on Telegram: @isaac_kohen or check website cazinogroup.com

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[OgNasty]

I can’t imagine any way to mitigate the risks involved with having someone else develop a gambling platform for you. Is there any assurance the platform wouldn’t be hacked? What recourse would a buyer have if their customers were to lose all of their funds as a result of the software being exploited?

[Ryker1]

Well, since you announced it here on bitcointalk, would you mind if you will also use a forum escrow service for both parties are safety and no one will take advantage. I am not doubting you but for the sake of the buyer and seller should use escrow service, this is the only way that has a guarantee that the transaction should legit. I have just one question, how much the additional if I am the buyer and I wanted you to set me up to my own host/server and just make it sure everything is in proper running order.
For the list of escrow, ^{[ https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2439910.0 ]}.

[amphoras]

Escrow is fine if paid by user, also domain can just be escrow'd through DAN.COM.


Funds on the platform itself are secure because of using external provider: cryptapi.io for deposits & withdraws, not single actual crypto stored or going through system. Regarding payment serving: https://my.cazinogroup.com/#item-4-5

[tibidev7]

good luck with the sale, the platform in big lines it's what he needs to be, you also should put a price in the topic.
btw: the design abuses a lot of yellow, your colors should be more varied for a great ui.

[amphoras]

good luck with the sale, the platform in big lines it's what he needs to be, you also should put a price in the topic.
btw: the design abuses a lot of yellow, your colors should be more varied for a great ui.

thanks - there is theming system available in the backend:

[michellee]

I think you can give us the price, so other members will know how much you are selling your website. I like the design, but how it will be after sales? Did the customer still get any update from you or only sell all of the domain and the customer manage the website by themselves? After sales are important, the customer will not confuse if they get a problem in the future.

[bitterguy28]

Escrow is fine if paid by user, also domain can just be escrow'd through DAN.COM.


Funds on the platform itself are secure because of using external provider: cryptapi.io for deposits & withdraws, not single actual crypto stored or going through system. Regarding payment serving: https://my.cazinogroup.com/#item-4-5

You answered the question about the escrow but the most important question Given by Og as first poster you denied to address?

I can’t imagine any way to mitigate the risks involved with having someone else develop a gambling platform for you. Is there any assurance the platform wouldn’t be hacked? What recourse would a buyer have if their customers were to lose all of their funds as a result of the software being exploited?

This question actually is not for the OP but for the Buyer , Good that Og pointed this because this is really a issue , Gambling sites nowadays are being attacked and it happens in several time just recently , so having Gambling site that created by someone and will operate by other one is really a super risky.

[janggernaut]

I think you can give us the price, so other members will know how much you are selling your website. I like the design, but how it will be after sales? Did the customer still get any update from you or only sell all of the domain and the customer manage the website by themselves? After sales are important, the customer will not confuse if they get a problem in the future.

IMO OP don't want tell us in public about the price. That's why he is giving us his contact on telegram to disscuss more further if anyone interested. Will you buy the domain or just asking without any intention to buy anyway? You can ask that all questions through telegram with OP

[rodskee]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5280831.msg55339614

I will Quote the Whole topic Here Directly so everyone that will visit this thread will Read almost the same scenario of what OP is selling here and find their way to read first before deciding

Hello everyone,

My name is Drex. I was scammed over $12,000.

I recently invested my hard-earned bitcoin into a bitcoin gambling website created by "Ryan".

I found Ryan advertising his "premade" gambling website as you can see here:
https://cazino.ltd/

I later found out he has 2 websites advertising this which is clearly sketchy:
https://managedcasino.com/

I contacted him about this. He advertised this demo site of what our site can be with his code: https://beta.bets.io/

Which is down at the moment (as he scammed). He advertised this site which looked amazing as you can see in the following image: https://imgur.com/a/79oVvKG

Ryan offered that we could pay $15,000 for the code and full rights to the backend/frontend etc or a "deal" that was renting the code for $1,500 a month and we wouldn't have access to the backend (as we didn't pay for the rights to it) but an admin panel for our everyday needs. The reason he charged $1,500 a month was he wanted to "gather data" and learn what works and what doesn't.

He showed us the backend and showed us his code and was editing it live on discord while screen sharing etc so we began gaining trust. Once we agreed on $1,500 we paid him and he instantly began "working" and created a Zoho mail and stream as you can see here: https://imgur.com/a/Oaxl7g8

He also gave us a notepad file showing the possibilities the code has to add to our site as you can see here: https://imgur.com/a/Fod0IcX

He also created an excel file that myself and my team could add  too of lists of jobs that needed to be completed to maximize profits on release day, you can check out this excel file here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GOuyFb67tu5_FOQOmKyrZmY7iMVd2Sh3xxGqsOOVItc/edit?usp=sharing

Once all this was set up he then charged a setup fee to customize the demo site he linked earlier to our liking which he never mentioned prior we assumed this was included in the $1,500 a month but we paid the $2,000 anyway and he changed the color of the background although when we asked for certain things to be done that were more advanced such as:

Custom Currency
Custom design (we wanted to move login buttons etc)
1% Max Bet

Although for everything we asked that was a slight bit difficult he would complain and say "there is no need" or come up with some stupid excuse.

We wanted a custom Crash animation and of course, Ryan said "I know a guy" he made a group chat with me and his "friend" (Bass)and explained what I wanted the designer said it would cost $200 to which I paid, I asked for updates and I was told I would get them, and he would send updates and send the animation to Ryan's email

I woke up in the morning with no new messages, I was getting worried and questioned "Any updates? @Bass", I've never heard from Bass again...although Ryan replied saying "He sent through just havent got to it yet.." pretty much saying he got them via email: https://imgur.com/a/HVwK6jh

I never saw this animation I'm 99% sure this is just another of Ryan's alts, although this Discord account was made in 2017 (I checked the ID), still probably Ryan

We made a list of stuff that needed to be done, one was the hot wallet needed for the website, we agreed we would begin with 0.9 bitcoins. We asked Ryan what wallet shall we use to which he replied with Electrum. My partner Elifeur was in charge of setting up the hot wallet with Ryan as I was heading to sleep at the time.

Ryan said he would DM Eli regarding how to set up which at the time I didn't think anything of it, but he did this to blame Eli specifically when our bitcoin "disappeared".

Elifeur sent 0.9 bitcoin to the wallet to which Ryan had access too to "help Eli set it up". The moment the bitcoin was confirmed in the wallet, exactly 5 mins later the money was withdrawn: https://imgur.com/a/oWSTlyb

Now it would be completely illogical for Elifeur to withdraw his own money and blame it on Ryan (Dev) as what is the logic in that?

We confronted Ryan about this to which he said:https://imgur.com/a/jLcCTMj

A friend of mine who was interested in this project called Ryan a scammer in DM's which "frustrated him" and he avoided talking in the group chat we made (that we could all see) and wanted to just talk to me in DM's:

https://imgur.com/a/jLcCTMj
https://imgur.com/a/wdBsKON
https://imgur.com/a/fkwjpiV

Ryan started blaming Elifeur for "messing up" with the wallet setup although he told Elifeur exactly what to do in DM's (which Ryan deleted)

I began questioning where our 0.9 bitcoin ($9,800) was, and Ryan's excuse was "idk":
https://imgur.com/a/PJpuKju

Ryan wanted to stop talking about this ASAP:
https://imgur.com/a/WGJtB1w

Ryan started saying stealing 0.9 bitcoin wouldn't be worth his time:
https://imgur.com/a/wlyry7I

Around this time all the site animations and functions started to stop working:
https://imgur.com/a/prwtRnY

I sent a very formal message explaining how we felt as customers and Ryan was saying we were "jumping to conclusions":
https://imgur.com/a/HdM2Qn0

He went offline and then left the group chat in both his accounts and wiped Elifeur's and his chat and our friend (Deleted Account) who called  him a scammer:
https://imgur.com/a/JwycBVX

Ryan then randomly contacted us 3 days later and said he would pay the 0.9 out of his "own pocket" and keep continuing on the site which clearly showed he had our money, we agreed as if we could at least get our money back and leave this project the only thing we would lose is time.

He said he would pay the money then changed his mind a few minutes later and said "I'll pay 0.45 because you guys are lowering my reputation calling me a scammer" we waited a few days with no sign of any money to which he said he would pay the money on 5th October (Monday) we waited until:

Monday..nothing..
Tuesday...nothing
Wednesday = I contacted him saying if he didn't reply in the next 24 hours we would expose him.

It is now Thursday and he has wiped my chat and blocked me:
https://imgur.com/a/KLCyBNA

You can see in the following images all the money was withdrawn from the Hot Wallet to a Bitcoin Address that instantly was sent to 2 more wallets:

https://imgur.com/a/cx6KuvV
https://imgur.com/a/nhlaETE
https://imgur.com/a/yi1T4XL
https://imgur.com/a/2Tg7Hch

As Elifeur paid for most of the project and my aim was he could keep my % of earnings for a period of time until the money was paid off, Elifeur and I are now down $12,000 and I owe Elifeur $6,000 to which is scammed from Ryan.

All of Ryan's contact details are below, it is extremely hard on me as the moment spent here was my savings (I am 19), but hopefully, this post can spread awareness of this scam.

Thanks,
Drex

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All Of Ryan's Contact Details
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All Ryan's Bitcointalk accounts:
MAIN account:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2805005
Alt account: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2465977 (you can see here all accounts that replied to him were just alts)

Main telegram: @ryanvoc
The phone number he answered on (linked to his telegram): +971 56 994 3022

His spare telegram: @rootyep
The phone number linked to that telegram: +31 6 16 25 57 41

Ryan's "friend" Caszino: @cazinoltd

Bass's discord: bass#4732
Bass's User ID: 119672775198638080

I think @OgNasty has a Good Point here and same reason why OP did not answered His question for Legitimacy.

Please Guys be aware of the risk because like the above post it was His "Hard Earned Money" that was scammed from Him.

[michellee]

I think you can give us the price, so other members will know how much you are selling your website. I like the design, but how it will be after sales? Did the customer still get any update from you or only sell all of the domain and the customer manage the website by themselves? After sales are important, the customer will not confuse if they get a problem in the future.

IMO OP don't want tell us in public about the price. That's why he is giving us his contact on telegram to disscuss more further if anyone interested. Will you buy the domain or just asking without any intention to buy anyway? You can ask that all questions through telegram with OP

I think that will make the customer know how much the website price that he offers. If the customer agrees with the price, they can continue to contact him using telegram. We do not know if they make a deal on the telegram, and if somehow, the customer has a problem with the deal, he will come back to here and ask us (which we do not know anything about). I am curious about the price of a gambling website, and I think it will be better to tell us here.

[calvinhull]

Gambling is a thing that can become a hobby or an addiction. You have to understand it and know how to gamble because there is real money and large sums, so you can lose all your money and get into debt. I remember almost falling into such a trap last year, but my friend talked me out of it in time. Since then, I promised to set a goal not to become addicted to gambling but to improve my financial situation. Although, sometimes, I go to casino-mate-australia.com and bet tiny amounts. I really like that the payments come instantly. It is very convenient. But it would be nice to buy the software. 

I want to open my own online casino.

[bittraffic]

Escrow is fine if paid by user, also domain can just be escrow'd through DAN.COM.


Funds on the platform itself are secure because of using external provider: cryptapi.io for deposits & withdraws, not single actual crypto stored or going through system. Regarding payment serving: https://my.cazinogroup.com/#item-4-5

You answered the question about the escrow but the most important question Given by Og as first poster you denied to address?

I can’t imagine any way to mitigate the risks involved with having someone else develop a gambling platform for you. Is there any assurance the platform wouldn’t be hacked? What recourse would a buyer have if their customers were to lose all of their funds as a result of the software being exploited?

This question actually is not for the OP but for the Buyer , Good that Og pointed this because this is really a issue , Gambling sites nowadays are being attacked and it happens in several time just recently , so having Gambling site that created by someone and will operate by other one is really a super risky.

It's super risky but one solution would be to just hire someone to look at the code thoroughly, find some holes, patch it, and then harden the security. It will be costly for sure. I think anyone will think this way after all crypto is full of fraudsters who will want to just get money out of someone hoping they are not caught. insane.bet by the way is a really good domain.

But what will be the cost of just hiring someone and just developing an opensource casino script?

[Alphie12]

Scary thread.

[Kakmakr]

Well, let's be honest.... buying a "white label" casino ...come with a lot of risk. You presume that the developer have no "backdoors" into you casino. You might be running for months without any problems and once your warm wallets are jam packed, the person with the keys to your castle, might give you a visit and withdraw all the money from your users accounts. 

The person who sold you the software, will then wash their hands... because they will say that it worked for months and nobody exploited the software, so this must have been hackers. 

[Piesel]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5280831.msg55339614

Many users are scammed already, the one in the link you posted is just $12,000 which is smaller than some other users' experience.

This are all scam and members here should be warned and totally distance themselves from buying an already developed gambling platform that is placed on sale, there is no guarantee that your bought casino won't get hacked or exploited in one way or another, we have to thread with caution to stay ahead of scammers.

[CryptSafe]

What is up with sales of casinos and gambling sites these days. I really do not get it clear why owners of such enterprise decides to I sell off their casinos and gambling platforms. If there are no issues with them why the sales then? Anyways it is up to them to do whatever pleases them but how come there is no asking price for bidders to see here? One should be able to get a brief details of the gambling platform here at first site before taking any step further. You did not state here if the platform is licensed or not, what is the annual running cost and maintenance of the platform let us know if it equates the annual profit or worth the negotiation and purchase. I hope you will allow for a proper audit of the platform to look for loopholes and sealing it upon agreement of terms and conditions so as not to fall victim of possible hack in the future.

[mak013]

Buying or selling online is risky enough. In this thread we can see how the buyer was scammed and there are lots of same situation. But also, we can`t say that the OP is scammer because someone was scammed as a buyer. Everybody must make his own research before deal if he wants to buy smth online.
I don`t ready to buy such projects online. But it doesn`t mean that everybody must do the same as i.

[PX-Z]

Buying or selling online is risky enough. In this thread we can see how the buyer was scammed and there are lots of same situation. But also, we can`t say that the OP is scammer because someone was scammed as a buyer. Everybody must make his own research before deal if he wants to buy smth online.

Buying a ready-made website business especially an established casino is not just like you're buying things on amazon, etsy or any marketplace. Anyone who is interested on buying such software should take many considerations including code audits while escrow with a lot of terms should be cleared for both party to avoid situations linked on this thread which is unfortunate.

[mak013]

Buying or selling online is risky enough. In this thread we can see how the buyer was scammed and there are lots of same situation. But also, we can`t say that the OP is scammer because someone was scammed as a buyer. Everybody must make his own research before deal if he wants to buy smth online.

Buying a ready-made website business especially an established casino is not just like you're buying things on amazon, etsy or any marketplace. Anyone who is interested on buying such software should take many considerations including code audits while escrow with a lot of terms should be cleared for both party to avoid situations linked on this thread which is unfortunate.

It is one of the complicated thing - to read someone`s else code. I don`t sure that even serious audit can give 100% guarantee that you becomes a full owner of the site.  Possible that it is better to create new web-site. Anyway you need to hire several programmers to support it.
May be i`m too old, but i think that such deals must have some proves and contracts in offline.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

Well, let's be honest.... buying a "white label" casino ...come with a lot of risk. You presume that the developer have no "backdoors" into you casino. You might be running for months without any problems and once your warm wallets are jam packed, the person with the keys to your castle, might give you a visit and withdraw all the money from your users accounts. 

The person who sold you the software, will then wash their hands... because they will say that it worked for months and nobody exploited the software, so this must have been hackers. 

Anyone who do not have an IT team but thinking to launch a casino then they will face the type of situation. But a serious business will not buy a script from an unknown white label script provider. They will look for license and things to save their own business while they will have a team to audit the codes too.

[PX-Z]

It is one of the complicated thing - to read someone`s else code. I don`t sure that even serious audit can give 100% guarantee that you becomes a full owner of the site.  Possible that it is better to create new web-site. Anyway you need to hire several programmers to support it.
May be i`m too old, but i think that such deals must have some proves and contracts in offline.

For someone who can't read and debug programming codes, algorithms, yes, it's very complicated. That's why you need an IT guy to do it for you, it's part of the business, asked professional people to do it for you. Just like i said it's not like you are buying things from online shop/marketplace, like check it out then few seconds you get your copy of casino software, nah.

Creating a new website from scratch is whole different level. It's safe since it will go in different stage of quality management (quality control, quality assurance, etc.), yet time consuming and will require more resources than buying an already established running business, especially for marketing side just to get your very first batch of users.
Yes, contracts is always part of the business, everyone who buy business needs contracts and everything should be in legal way. Once you missed important parts, you are risking your time and money so buyer should always take advice from professionals.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

I can’t imagine any way to mitigate the risks involved with having someone else develop a gambling platform for you. Is there any assurance the platform wouldn’t be hacked? What recourse would a buyer have if their customers were to lose all of their funds as a result of the software being exploited?

You have a good point, and the fact that OP overlooked this thought of yours and didn't reply but went ahead to reply other thoughts that are below this speaks some kind of volume and also somehow acts as a red flag.
I am not anyway saying the op has bad intentions but who in their right senses will buy an already built online casino from is completely not known from Adam?
I personally can only buy a platform like this if the seller would allow me hire an auditor of my choice to carry out a through audit on the code and we both split the cost/fee..
Or better still, build my own casino from scratch in-house.

[Wakate]

I can’t imagine any way to mitigate the risks involved with having someone else develop a gambling platform for you. Is there any assurance the platform wouldn’t be hacked? What recourse would a buyer have if their customers were to lose all of their funds as a result of the software being exploited?

This is a big problem that we need to take a look on or op is going to explain how this is going to be done since buying a gambling website could pose more risks to the buyer that will be the second owner. If at all the threat of buying a gambling website could be reverse then I think the new owner would not have to bother much.
I think op needs to give updates about the website whether it had been sold or he's still looking for a buyer. I hope he is going to get a buyer soon if his price is much lesser than what the market demand.

[RILWAN]

This is too big a risk for the buyer, since the casino is ready to run that means you developed everything you have the security back door which pauses as a thread and a red flag unless you get a personal face-to-face deal and the casino will be under your guidance and if anyone wants to deal you guys should better use an escrow service to handle payments.

[DoublerHunter]

~snip~
I think op needs to give updates about the website whether it had been sold or he's still looking for a buyer. I hope he is going to get a buyer soon if his price is much lesser than what the market demand.

^It is a 1-year-old thread and I don't think OP will update until now, it could be sold or unsold website because it is a forgotten thread.
I think it is negative to have a buyer on this forum because people here know how risky to buy a website that is already run by other people if you don't have experience in coding and debugging, you are nothing. That is the reason why probably a gambling owner creates a website that starts from nothing until it will succeed and hire their own developer and tech guy personally, not this ready-made gambling casino.

[mak013]

It is one of the complicated thing - to read someone`s else code. I don`t sure that even serious audit can give 100% guarantee that you becomes a full owner of the site.  Possible that it is better to create new web-site. Anyway you need to hire several programmers to support it.
May be i`m too old, but i think that such deals must have some proves and contracts in offline.

For someone who can't read and debug programming codes, algorithms, yes, it's very complicated. That's why you need an IT guy to do it for you, it's part of the business, asked professional people to do it for you. Just like i said it's not like you are buying things from online shop/marketplace, like check it out then few seconds you get your copy of casino software, nah.

Creating a new website from scratch is whole different level. It's safe since it will go in different stage of quality management (quality control, quality assurance, etc.), yet time consuming and will require more resources than buying an already established running business, especially for marketing side just to get your very first batch of users.
Yes, contracts is always part of the business, everyone who buy business needs contracts and everything should be in legal way. Once you missed important parts, you are risking your time and money so buyer should always take advice from professionals.

I work in IT long enough and i can say that even IT specialist often has problem with the code that was written by someone else. And if you have to hire such specialist, you can`t guarantee that he is enough qualified or that he wouldn`t cheat you.
If you create the casino from the beginning you can avoid such problems. Of course, you spend more resources but: a) you get what you want, b) you control all stages of website creation, c) the chance that you would be deceived decreases seriously.

[RILWAN]

This is the most risky tho g to do, haven't to buy an already built casino with all the codes and software developed by a third party who can take control of the system at any time since their the developer. But then seeing from what oos mentioned no your buyer will come through because the deal does not look legit to me.

[Slow death]

This is the most risky tho g to do, haven't to buy an already built casino with all the codes and software developed by a third party who can take control of the system at any time since their the developer. But then seeing from what oos mentioned no your buyer will come through because the deal does not look legit to me.

The OP has not been active since August, it has not been active for many months but on this issue of buying a casino already made, I think that anyone who wants to get into this business would not do that, he would send a company with a good reputation to build everything from scratch online casino and it is also necessary for the owner of the casino to closely monitor the entire creation of the casino with a reliable programmer on his side and after everything is ready he needs to take the online casino to a third party company to do a security analysis, and a process so you don't get scammed later

[redsun114]

For someone who can't read and debug programming codes, algorithms, yes, it's very complicated. That's why you need an IT guy to do it for you, it's part of the business, asked professional people to do it for you. Just like i said it's not like you are buying things from online shop/marketplace, like check it out then few seconds you get your copy of casino software, nah.

Creating a new website from scratch is whole different level. It's safe since it will go in different stage of quality management (quality control, quality assurance, etc.), yet time consuming and will require more resources than buying an already established running business, especially for marketing side just to get your very first batch of users.
Yes, contracts is always part of the business, everyone who buy business needs contracts and everything should be in legal way. Once you missed important parts, you are risking your time and money so buyer should always take advice from professionals.

Usually, the ones that are being sold on online marketplaces are just small items so yeah it isn't hard to decide on them but we can always check the item all by ourselves. Nowadays I think it's now easier for anyone to create their own website but you make it sound too complicated there. Those who are planning to create one might easily get discouraged if ever they read your reply.

My only advice for those who want to buy something, it would be better if they demand a warranty if possible, just like when we buy other valuable items. This is to ensure that we can still return what we have bought in case there are problems that are experienced.

[Desmong]

This is the most risky tho g to do, haven't to buy an already built casino with all the codes and software developed by a third party who can take control of the system at any time since their the developer. But then seeing from what oos mentioned no your buyer will come through because the deal does not look legit to me.

There is risk here but it depends on the buyers if they are ready to make lots of adjustments to make sure that there is no buds I'm the site so that things can go well. The price looks more considerate if we take a look at it but the risk too can be amended by a string team to fix any buds the sites might have to make sure that there will be no worries later when things start going well.

[plast555]

The risk involved in buying a casino website source code depends on various factors, such as the reputation and experience of the source code provider, the quality and functionality of the code, and the level of support and assistance offered. It is generally recommended to do thorough research and due diligence before purchasing a casino website source code to minimize the risk of encountering any issues or problems. It may also be advisable to seek the advice of a legal or technical expert to ensure the source code is compliant with regulations and meets your business needs.

[worldofcoins]

Very a unique and insane domain indeed (insane. bet). However, risk factors are very much high in purchasing a casino. (Especially online casinos) because almost everything is at risk. So it requires a complete survey and investigation before making such investments, including member count, user feedback, and the site's reputation. It's better to consult some technical and legal advisors before making any such move.