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January 18, 2021, 07:11:30 AM
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It is possible that there will be a few more bitcoins in the future, and there will be a possibility that the bubble will burst?
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January 18, 2021, 07:29:49 AM
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It is possible that there will be a few more bitcoins in the future
As per coinmarketcap.com, the total bitcoins mined is 18,603,550 which leads to a remaining unmined bitcoins of 2.3M. Considering that bitcoin is a limited supply cryptocurrency, that's already a very few amount while it's starting to become known worldwide. But due to halving, it is slowing down which is assumed the last bitcoin will be mined by 2140.

and there will be a possibility that the bubble will burst?
Assuming that it's a bubble, then it has to burst soon. But with its adoption rate that we see based from the news and the scenario that we had right now, I doubt it that it's a bubble.

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January 18, 2021, 10:09:59 AM
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It is possible that there will be a few more bitcoins in the future, and there will be a possibility that the bubble will burst?
It is impossible to foresee the distant future but if you look at the market growth from the beginning you can assume that with every rally there will be a major correction. I am not proficient enough to understand how big the market could rally in this bull run nor you will find anyone that could give you an assurance about that and if they do they are lying. Even in this rally i am expecting a major correction and all these institutional investors will book their profit one day or the other.
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January 18, 2021, 10:38:59 AM
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With each passing day, the market is starting to stabilize, and BTC is also gradually dropping in value, which is to be expected. It seems to me that Bitcoin will drop to about $ 20K. I do not recommend investing in cryptocurrency now, as the market is expected to fall gradually.
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January 18, 2021, 10:50:49 AM
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It is possible that there will be a few more bitcoins in the future, and there will be a possibility that the bubble will burst?

There is no real possibility that they discover a lot of new bitcoins any time soon. The halving process is going to continue every 4 years, so there will be less and less coins coming in the future.

As for bursting the bubble it depends what you mean by burst. Sure there is a chance bitcoin could drop back down to 10,000 USD but that is not so likely. And I don't think there is any chance for bitcoins to become worthless. The long term trend of Bitcoin's is upwards.
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January 18, 2021, 11:09:25 AM
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It is possible that there will be a few more bitcoins in the future, and there will be a possibility that the bubble will burst?
There are a number of people right now who are waiting to buy bitcoins , the opportunity is really dire because we have a fixed number of coins and therefore I do think that even if there will be more coins added to the market. They won't be added in a couple of days. They will be added slowly. Which means that the sudden bubble that you are talking about won't happen.

The people will ofcourse no doubt buy the bitcoins and at the end of the day they will stabilize the market , a little +/- is not only healthy but it gives us an opportunity to save some of the coins too.

The bubble will only Burst when people decide to sell in a panic , nothing else and therefore right now if you do want to buy some bitcoins and you are also think that in the future there might be some opportunity , well there can be and there might not be. We cannot be sure of anything.

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January 18, 2021, 02:25:38 PM
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It is possible that there will be a few more bitcoins in the future, and there will be a possibility that the bubble will burst?
What do you mean by a few more bitcoin in the future? Because the mining process is still running, we will see more bitcoin, and we can have that bitcoin by doing many things. The bubble will burst, and you know what, after the price hit the highest price, the price can go down to the lower price. So you will prepare before the bubble burst and save your money to buy back Bitcoin at a lower price.

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January 18, 2021, 03:30:36 PM
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As per coinmarketcap.com, the total bitcoins mined is 18,603,550 which leads to a remaining unmined bitcoins of 2.3M. Considering that bitcoin is a limited supply cryptocurrency, that's already a very few amount while it's starting to become known worldwide. But due to halving, it is slowing down which is assumed the last bitcoin will be mined by 2140.



in other words if the pool will be very narrow and crowded. only institutional institutions have strong mining capacities and large electricity supplies. the competition will be more intense in the future. and gradually illegal mining which we often find on sites that promise 0.0000xxx / day bitcoin will disappear over time. eroded by Chinese mining companies that continue to add power to their electricity supply.

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January 18, 2021, 03:37:18 PM
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Assuming that it's a bubble, then it has to burst soon.
Not necessarily--bubbles can go on for years, you know.  Just look at the internet stock bubble circa 1995-2000, and that's just one of many that went on for a long time.

But what's the question here: whether we're in a bubble or how much our total asset portfolio should be in bitcoin?  If it's the latter, I'd say around 5%, but only if you can afford to take that amount of risk in the first place.  It's not as though bitcoin is an historically stable investment.  If you're a young person with a good (and stable) job, you could probably invest more than 5% and not have it sting if bitcoin crashes--but you've got to have the stomach for it either way, because owning bitcoin is like riding a roller coaster.

I don't keep anywhere near 5% of my measly investment money in bitcoin, even though I'm a fan of it.  I'm a bit older and can't afford to lose what I've got.

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January 18, 2021, 03:40:27 PM
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With each passing day, the market is starting to stabilize, and BTC is also gradually dropping in value, which is to be expected. It seems to me that Bitcoin will drop to about $ 20K. I do not recommend investing in cryptocurrency now, as the market is expected to fall gradually.

"Expected to fall gradually"? Where did you get that from? - Maybe you are the one who "expects" that, but you should not generalise. The next time please try and make it clear that it is your sole opinion.

With the current rampage of institutions into the crypto space and especially Bitcoin I don't see strong arguments to be bearish. I mean the higher timeframes still look rock-solid from my personal analysis.

I don't think that Bitcoin is a bubble. Tulips were a bubble, but Bitcoin is actually an attractive candidate for replacing Gold and our financial system based on fiat.
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January 18, 2021, 04:19:40 PM
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first a bubble has to be formed before it can burst. everyone knows we are far away from seeing any bubbles in the horizon. at least another year has to pass and price has to be at least 400% above this current level for the price to start entering a bubble phase and then burst to lead to the next bear market in the year that follows that.

It is possible that there will be a few more bitcoins in the future,
you mean new coins like bitcoin?
for as long as bitcoin existed (nearly 11 years) they have been trying to create such coins and they have been failing as it is evident from the altcoins that exist and how bad they all are.

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January 18, 2021, 05:06:20 PM
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I'm semi-conservative.

I prefer to have more stable investments with less return as real estates, and riskier but with bigger return investments in crypto. Plus some dividend stocks, etc.

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January 18, 2021, 05:12:20 PM
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It is possible that there will be a few more bitcoins in the future, and there will be a possibility that the bubble will burst?
At the end how much capital do you want to invest in bitcoin is a personal decision that will depend entirely on where you believe the economy is going? Many people believe and with good reason that the economy is in terrible shape and even if the stock market is going up the real economy is suffering greatly and people are losing their jobs and their homes because of this pandemic, and in that kind of economic scenario you need a hedge against inflation that is coming and bitcoin is perfect for that.

Your second question is a little bit too vague, it seems that you are asking if there is going to be an increase in the limit of 21 million coins and that is never going to happen and finally any asset that it is in a bubble eventually crashes but there are arguments to be made that what we're seeing in bitcoin is not a bubble.

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January 18, 2021, 05:17:57 PM
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From a classical point of view it would be about 5%.

However, you'll probably find people in this forum who hold more. If you have a deep knowledge of what Bitcoin is and you believe in its future you can have a much higher percentage of that. It depends on your personal situation and total net worth as well. If you have virtually nothing, not even a paid-off house or some equity on it, it's too risky to have 95% of your total wealth in Bitcoin. But if you have a couple of houses and some other assets that  will make you live comfortably even if the worst omens about Bitcoin come true, you can have a very high % of your net worth in Bitcoin.

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I always suggest everyone who asked me this question. I tell them to atleast 20% from your saving try to invest in crypto. Now lets explain why atleast 20 from your saving not from earning. Well just think your income source is job and your monthly salary is $2000 and Your family cost is around $1300 then you have $700 saving now just think from you $700 if you spend in blockchain atleast 20% means $140 month then you didn't loose that much. But you just use a technique you just save this 140 every month and wait for price dump and buy and then price up. You just think every month $140 and for a year or for 5-10 years then you compared your saving with your banks. Now why i do not suggest to invest your all saving because it is crypto if your family needs urgent money for some bad situation and that time crypto market was also in dump price then you have to lose all that is why invest crypto some and save some in your bank for urgent need. It is a simple strategy.  And try to learn trading in your crypto invest time by which you can multiply your income.
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January 18, 2021, 06:05:43 PM
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From a classical point of view it would be about 5%.

However, you'll probably find people in this forum who hold more. If you have a deep knowledge of what Bitcoin is and you believe in its future you can have a much higher percentage of that. It depends on your personal situation and total net worth as well. If you have virtually nothing, not even a paid-off house or some equity on it, it's too risky to have 95% of your total wealth in Bitcoin. But if you have a couple of houses and some other assets that  will make you live comfortably even if the worst omens about Bitcoin come true, you can have a very high % of your net worth in Bitcoin.

That's the case of the macro investor, Raoul Pal. If you have watched his interview with Anthony Pompliano, he now has 98% of his net worth into Bitcoin. But he specifies he can do this because he already has several houses and can live a comfortable quality life even if the Bitcoin bet goes the other way.
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January 18, 2021, 07:03:18 PM
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Don't worry that bitcoins still have supplies that you can have. even though bitcoin is limited, you don't need to set up large mining equipment and high-power electricity. simply you enter the market and take advantage of the conditions of price movement and take the best possible position.
So if you ask about how much all of my assets will be invested in bitcoin, then obviously 50:50 will not be a loss for me. and I believe bitcoin will provide benefits in the future.

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January 18, 2021, 07:09:09 PM
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10% of your net worth seems like a sweet spot for an extremely risky asset. Less than 10% would make you a bit more conservative, and more than that would make you more aggressive. With 10%, you will get a nice return if the price goes up, and won't cry too much if the price goes down.

It is possible that there will be a few more bitcoins in the future
On average, every 10 minutes, a few Bitcoins are mined, so yes, there will be more Bitcoins over time until we reach max supply.
But if it is about changing max supply, the possibility is extremely slim.

there will be a possibility that the bubble will burst?
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With each passing day, the market is starting to stabilize, and BTC is also gradually dropping in value, which is to be expected. It seems to me that Bitcoin will drop to about $ 20K. I do not recommend investing in cryptocurrency now, as the market is expected to fall gradually.

"Expected to fall gradually"? Where did you get that from? - Maybe you are the one who "expects" that, but you should not generalise. The next time please try and make it clear that it is your sole opinion.

With the current rampage of institutions into the crypto space and especially Bitcoin I don't see strong arguments to be bearish. I mean the higher timeframes still look rock-solid from my personal analysis.

I don't think that Bitcoin is a bubble. Tulips were a bubble, but Bitcoin is actually an attractive candidate for replacing Gold and our financial system based on fiat.
Bitcoin is a type of crypto that takes a bit of a time to skyrocket, but when it does, it goes up like crazy. We witnessed this in the 2017 and 2020 ATHs where it topped at $19,000 and $40,000 respectively. With this information in mind, I grew to understand that my bitcoin investment should still take a considerable amount off of my allotted cash for investment, but not too much that it would cause me to fall short on my other assets. Something around 10-20% of your overall total assets should at least comprise of bitcoin. And be minded that this money should as much as possible be kept intact and not be sold to make the most out of bitcoin.
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Bitcoin is worth holding but I cant state the amount in percentage I can recommend for holding. I cant hold bitcoin longer into the bull market without taking profit. The whales may do that because of what they have but small holders will need to cashout and buy back in the bear. Less than 6 million bitcoin is traded in the market now, more bitcoin has not been moved, large some has been lost with key and life of owners.

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10% of your net worth seems like a sweet spot for an extremely risky asset. Less than 10% would make you a bit more conservative, and more than that would make you more aggressive. With 10%, you will get a nice return if the price goes up, and won't cry too much if the price goes down.

It is possible that there will be a few more bitcoins in the future
On average, every 10 minutes, a few Bitcoins are mined, so yes, there will be more Bitcoins over time until we reach max supply.
But if it is about changing max supply, the possibility is extremely slim.

there will be a possibility that the bubble will burst?
Yes.

Depends on; how much of your total assets, how much you have to spend each month, how much your income/month, and how long are you planning to hold bitcoin. There is no definitive answer for everyone, as we have a different situation. Let's calculate from the expenses every month, at least you must have sufficient funds to cover expenses for the next 1 year without income in case something goes wrong. Assume if your total asset is $200k, expenses/month $7k, income $10k, then preserve $84k as savings for 1 year, invest 50% or $100k in bitcoin if you want to hold it for a year or less. We know bitcoin will reach at least $100k by the end of the year, right?  Cheesy
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Hm.40% of my salary is for bitcoin investment, another 20% is for altcoins. I can live perfectly with the remain 40% cause I do not need much thing in my daily life. I will invest them in the future.

There are currently more than 2.3 million bitcoin left to be mine and those bitcoins will run out at 2140. So we have more than a hundred years

and there will be a possibility that the bubble will burst?
People assume bitcoin is a big bubble. But as long as we are the pioneer in investing in bitcoin and its technologies, there is nothing to be afraid of. We will not suffer a huge loss like people obsessed with FOMO. Be patient and trust your bitcoin

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It is depending on the funds I have because I don't have any job and any skills in trading which I want to learn. I only invest by actually buying and holding it for such time that it will rise in terms of value. My asset depends on the movement of the value of bitcoin itself and also depending on the length of the timeline that I bought it. If I bought it for a long time and sold it at a price right now, it is a high profit for me. I am planning to buy again, I am just waiting for the time that the price falls a little bit.
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It is possible that there will be a few more bitcoins in the future
As per coinmarketcap.com, the total bitcoins mined is 18,603,550 which leads to a remaining unmined bitcoins of 2.3M. Considering that bitcoin is a limited supply cryptocurrency, that's already a very few amount while it's starting to become known worldwide. But due to halving, it is slowing down which is assumed the last bitcoin will be mined by 2140.
You also have to consider the lost coins because there seems to be a lot floating around the void never to be seen again.
and there will be a possibility that the bubble will burst?
Assuming that it's a bubble, then it has to burst soon. But with its adoption rate that we see based from the news and the scenario that we had right now, I doubt it that it's a bubble.
Not all bubbles burst really fast, considering the waves in the bitcoin market back then with all the sharp turns and curves, I think that in a way it is a bubble.

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With each passing day, the market is starting to stabilize, and BTC is also gradually dropping in value, which is to be expected. It seems to me that Bitcoin will drop to about $ 20K. I do not recommend investing in cryptocurrency now, as the market is expected to fall gradually.

I see a different perspective here. With each passing years, Btc has been constantly gaining value and of course popularity. What makes you think Bitcoin is stabilizing?
If Btc is about to drop down to $20k, It should've happened already during a huge drop from $40k down to $32k. But Btc somehow showed it's strength, institutional and retail investors are still accumulating even with the price this high.

Why do you think these big companies and big names in financial industry are stacking more Bitcoins today? Is it because Bitcoin will gradually dropping it's value?

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It is possible that there will be a few more bitcoins in the future, and there will be a possibility that the bubble will burst?

Guess your topic title came up as a result of you thinking of this words above. Well you can be rest assured that, there won't be more than 21million bitcoins circulating in the market. Instead there'll be lost of some of the total supply as a result of the careless nature of humans and others will be held off exchanges by holders in the form of institutional investors and retail investors. The above scenario will result to the scarcity of bitcoin in the market which will contribute effectivity to the soar in price of the assest.

You don't have to be scared but that doesn't mean you should go investing an aspect of your assets that you won't be comfortable losing. The market is very volatile therefore don't go above your limit. Sure the market can crash down anything that's a possibility your optimistic shouldn't cloud. Anything is possible, although bitcoin can't be hacked but we have different theory going around which might just cause harm if they were to be possible but only time will tell.

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It is possible that there will be a few more bitcoins in the future, and there will be a possibility that the bubble will burst?

BTC supply is very limited and its supply is lesser than what we see right now. Many bitcoin lost in their early stages when many devs just mine it to test what it is. They didn't think its price will be that much higher so they just left those bitcoin. Also, many investors lost their bitcoin along with the device they kept that into. So we can see shortages of bitcoin due to its high demands.

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By few more bitcoins being available in the future, you meant that more bitcoins are going to be mined in the future, right? Yeah, that is true but it is not like there is going to be infinite supply. And don't forget, the amount of coins that can be mined are also halved every four years, so the supply is also declined as time passes.
If "you" think this is a bubble, then don't invest. If I were you thinking it is a bubble, i would never invest anything that i wouldn't be able to afford. But, if I were planning for long term investment, then I would invest significant amount since I know in the long run the price will increase. Many medium to large scale companies are also doing this!

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I'll answer the title of the thread, 95% of my savings are in Bitcoin, Ethereum and Litecoin.
After paying my bills and living expenses, everything else goes into Bitcoin.

I have other assets which are staying as they are but for FIAT I put as much
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January 19, 2021, 11:07:14 AM
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Assuming that it's a bubble, then it has to burst soon.
Not necessarily--bubbles can go on for years, you know.  Just look at the internet stock bubble circa 1995-2000, and that's just one of many that went on for a long time.

But what's the question here: whether we're in a bubble or how much our total asset portfolio should be in bitcoin?  If it's the latter, I'd say around 5%, but only if you can afford to take that amount of risk in the first place.  It's not as though bitcoin is an historically stable investment.  If you're a young person with a good (and stable) job, you could probably invest more than 5% and not have it sting if bitcoin crashes--but you've got to have the stomach for it either way, because owning bitcoin is like riding a roller coaster.

I don't keep anywhere near 5% of my measly investment money in bitcoin, even though I'm a fan of it.  I'm a bit older and can't afford to lose what I've got.
You're wise in deciding that it shouldn't go more than 5% with the factor of your age. I've seen the same thought of how much they would invest depending on their status, age, and take on bitcoin. I wasn't able to witness the internet stock bubble during those years because I was still young by that time, it's a great share of history to know about it. Thanks.

As per coinmarketcap.com, the total bitcoins mined is 18,603,550 which leads to a remaining unmined bitcoins of 2.3M. Considering that bitcoin is a limited supply cryptocurrency, that's already a very few amount while it's starting to become known worldwide. But due to halving, it is slowing down which is assumed the last bitcoin will be mined by 2140.
You also have to consider the lost coins because there seems to be a lot floating around the void never to be seen again.
Yup, those lost coins forever make bitcoin rarer.

Assuming that it's a bubble, then it has to burst soon. But with its adoption rate that we see based from the news and the scenario that we had right now, I doubt it that it's a bubble.
Not all bubbles burst really fast, considering the waves in the bitcoin market back then with all the sharp turns and curves, I think that in a way it is a bubble.
Yup, that's what I've just learned earlier with what I've quoted above. I thought of it as not a bubble since the "assumed bubble on 2017" has burst and since a year ago, we've been down. With all the news of adoption, fundamentals, and acceptance of the society on it, that sums up to the natural growth of it.

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Not more than 20%, I don't want to take a long-term risk whether bitcoin will be accepted by the market or not, March proved when there was an economic crash the downturn was so great, and now this makes me put more money into safer instruments, portfolios I have already made, including bitcoin, get that portion  Smiley. the increase or profit in altcoin is also large, in my opinion, the capital does not need to be too large. we can develop if we can see the market

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January 19, 2021, 12:44:10 PM
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There will be a possibility that the bubble will burst?

I don't think that it is a bubble. One of the reasons is that unlike the other pumps that happened, this year seems to have that cemented support since there is a lot of adoption that happened. The fact that there are companies that already investing in this crypto currency, means that there will be a higher chance of adoption of it in the future.

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January 19, 2021, 01:00:46 PM
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It is possible that there will be a few more bitcoins in the future, and there will be a possibility that the bubble will burst?

The Bitcoin protocol has to be changed with a majority "vote" for there to be more bitcoins and that will never happen. (The moment when the Supply is increased, people who owns bitcoins now will take a massive knock with the price going down as a result of that decision... so no miner/full node will "vote" for that.

Bitcoin is not a "Bubble" .....so you have to do a bit more research about this currency/commodity to understand this technology. (Supply & Demand)  Wink

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My answer to your question would be this, I always put half of my earnings per week in Bitcoin. Let's say I earn $100 per week, then I would put the $50 on it and I'll save the rest of my fiat in my pocket to buy some food and my other daily needs. My parents always tell me that I should put it in the bank, but I always says no and explain to them why ai prefer it to invest in Bitcoin.

After the recent bull run that doubles the ATH we had in 2017, my parents also wants to learn how this stuff works. I already told them the basics and it seems that they are really interested.
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It is possible that there will be a few more bitcoins in the future, and there will be a possibility that the bubble will burst?
I am pretty sure he doesn't mean "will there be few more bitcoins" as in, will it stop at 21 million or will it be more. I think it means "will there be things that are as big as bitcoin?" which is the important question here.

I doubt that it will be as big as bitcoin if you ask me, sure there are tons of stuff but none of them are as good as bitcoin and there will be nothing as good as bitcoin neither, I just think it is obvious that we are in a bitcoin world and all other cryptos would have to just wait for it to go up. Not saying that other cryptos will go down or anything, they will go up too, I just think that they will not go up to levels of bitcoin. Even ethereum needs what? Times five of what it is today to reach bitcoin? And that is the second biggest one, others need even more WHILE bitcoin not moving upside a single cent, I doubt that will happen.
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My answer to your question would be this, I always put half of my earnings per week in Bitcoin. Let's say I earn $100 per week, then I would put the $50 on it and I'll save the rest of my fiat in my pocket to buy some food and my other daily needs. My parents always tell me that I should put it in the bank, but I always says no and explain to them why ai prefer it to invest in Bitcoin.

After the recent bull run that doubles the ATH we had in 2017, my parents also wants to learn how this stuff works. I already told them the basics and it seems that they are really interested.

Good for you showing your parents the results of your investment, bringing  them in and have interest on their own. It's really nice to see that

those people whom you love are also showing support and interest after seeing results, They will learn from how you work with your

investment, and it will be much lesser risk for them since they have you to guide them while learning much deeper knowledge about this

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If I didn't have the necessities of life to be honest I would like to invest all of my assets in bitcoin but yes, that's not possible. That way, I'll only invest when I have money to spend and also, every bubble is bound to burst because if it's not a bubble then of course that won't make it burst or crash. This year could be a good trend for bitcoin or the cryptocurrency market as a whole, with bitcoin still struggling to get back above 40k so this could be a good time if I'm willing to take the risk.

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Not more than 20%, I don't want to take a long-term risk whether bitcoin will be accepted by the market or not, March proved when there was an economic crash the downturn was so great, and now this makes me put more money into safer instruments, portfolios I have already made, including bitcoin, get that portion  Smiley. the increase or profit in altcoin is also large, in my opinion, the capital does not need to be too large. we can develop if we can see the market
I think you should have more than 20% to invest in bitcoin, and not use too big money to invest in an altcoin. And you can hold your bitcoin for a long time, and do not need to panic if you see the price is down because that is your advantage to buy more bitcoin than before. The altcoin can give you a profit but I do not think that the altcoin will be good for a long term investment because it follows bitcoin price moves. The money you want to use will be good if you know how much you can afford to invest in crypto.

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I'll answer the title of the thread, 95% of my savings are in Bitcoin, Ethereum and Litecoin.
After paying my bills and living expenses, everything else goes into Bitcoin.

I have other assets which are staying as they are but for FIAT I put as much
as I can into Bitcoin and have been doing that for a few years.
I used to do the same thing but for the past 3 months or so it has been a bit more difficult to do the same. Not because my earning dropped because it is almost the same, even increased, it was never really about that, it was about how my expenses increased. Inflation due to pandemic made things a lot more expensive, which means that life is more expensive, even though my income is about the same that still didn't cover the new expenses.

I am very glad that I have a job that allowed me to earn more than I spent, so right now I spend as much as I earn, if I was barely surviving, now I would be in debt. However the idea of "put anything you do not spend into crypto" is one step lower than "put money first, spend later" because I have grown up with put 10% of your earning into savings idea, that way you do not see it as your paycheck and you would force to live with 90% of your earning, and I am failing even that now.

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I'm still on the shadow with regards to bitcoin trends so I can only give 5 - 10% of my assets as to test how it goes. I don't want to risk too much on my current asset if I don't have the grasp of the situation. I will raise it gradually if the progress would be good.



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OP, Irrelevant title to the content you said in your post.

It depends on everyone's income source so we can't conclude that certain percentage is enough to invest on cryptocurrencies.IMHO the middle class people likes to invest on real estate more than the speculative assets so if you are from such class then better invest 50% from your savings money to bitcoin after every pay cheque.









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January 20, 2021, 07:36:36 AM
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Over the course of 6 years, I have probably put something like 10% of my old fiat currency savings into bitcoin and that has probably been the best and soundest choice I could have made with my hard-earned money.
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It is possible that there will be a few more bitcoins in the future, and there will be a possibility that the bubble will burst?
Crypto isn't a bubble, this is what many don't understand, bitcoin for example is more than a digital gold right now, it's a real store of value than money ( payment solution) thanks to blockchain, the only bad side of crypto right now is bad projects, if Bitcoin was a bubble why did it keep coming back alive? If I'm correct bitcoin have died too many times before

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It is possible that there will be a few more bitcoins in the future, and there will be a possibility that the bubble will burst?
As much as I want to see that what is happening right now is just a bubble, the fact that there are some good news coming out like institutions coming out and more people are investing into it are enough to say that the bubble will not burst out soon. I can also say that this isn't a bubble too but just another step towards adoption.

It might be possible that we will experience a huge correction in the succeeding weeks but that too can still not happen knowing that there are some big companies that are buying Bitcoin on a daily basis. Now to answer your question, TBH I would like to spend half of it and invest into Bitcoin. I have huge trust in it and I can bear even though Bitcoin will go lower than the price I bought.

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Assume if your total asset is $200k, expenses/month $7k, income $10k, then preserve $84k as savings for 1 year, invest 50% or $100k in bitcoin if you want to hold it for a year or less. We know bitcoin will reach at least $100k by the end of the year, right?  Cheesy
We hope we know Grin, but in reality, we even don't know what will happen five minutes in the future.
Losing 10% of your net worth is not a big deal. I did it several times, actually, but losing 50% of your net worth is something to cry about.

Of course, the conservative-aggressive spectrum is relative. For some people putting 50% is neutral, but for me, people who did it have big balls made of steel.

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If what the opening post means is that there will be a replacement for Bitcoin in the future with new coins appearing, it could happen that it will
appear better than Bitcoin. Because in my opinion nothing in this world is eternal, there must be a beginning and an end. So in the future there
will definitely be new coins, but they may not appear anytime soon. Then regarding the possibility that Bitcoin will fall, it can also occur, especially
when we remember the bubble incident that occurred in 2017. Usually history repeats itself, so it's just in case Bitcoin falls again. So don't forget
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In the future no more bitcoins will be mined it means it will have a price increase in the market and that's gonna be the turning point for supply and demand scenario in the market. In matters of percentage, I would say 10% because I don't have much assets to invest with and I take it as well as an extra money for ventures for bitcoin  and for sure any amount of it still an investment.

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Bitcoin is not a bubble, this has been said about Bitcoin before, but Bitcoin has proven that it is not just a bubble and has been able to overcome all the difficulties that stood in its way.
For me, although I prefer Bitcoin to all other cryptocurrencies, I always work according to the saying that you do not put all the eggs in one basket, so I prefer to have at least three coins in my wallet, so I will work to put 50% of my assets in bitcoin and the rest with it I buy two different coins.

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When I made my investment in January 2017, cryptocurrencies made up around 1% of my total investment portfolio. Now they make more than 50% of my net worth, despite the fact that I sold a large part of my holdings from 2018-2021. My only regret is that I decided to invest only a small part of my wealth in to Bitcoin in 2017. If I had invested 10% instead of 1%, then there was no need to do full-time job now.

Maybe not only you who are regretting that but most of us feel the same.

If only" that's the perfect word from regretting not trusting enough or not taking the big risk investing within this market. Crypto way back is very affordable and if you do saves 10% of your fiat earnings and keep it up to know, that will brings you more than 3 folds of your initial investment. If you can just turned back time, but all the potential still there just be careful and furios to lessen the possible risk on your money.
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Assume if your total asset is $200k, expenses/month $7k, income $10k, then preserve $84k as savings for 1 year, invest 50% or $100k in bitcoin if you want to hold it for a year or less. We know bitcoin will reach at least $100k by the end of the year, right?  Cheesy
We hope we know Grin, but in reality, we even don't know what will happen five minutes in the future.
Losing 10% of your net worth is not a big deal. I did it several times, actually, but losing 50% of your net worth is something to cry about.

Of course, the conservative-aggressive spectrum is relative. For some people putting 50% is neutral, but for me, people who did it have big balls made of steel.
I would say even 50% is not to cry about depending on the situation. I am a lucky person to say that my savings account is not something I need to use, at least not all of it and a small portion of it would be fine if an emergency happens but I have managed to instead create debt and repay that instead of using my savings account. During 2018 I have lost literally everything in my account, no crypto no nothing, it was a bad year for me, after an amazing and unbelievable 2017 year I had to yield and let it go.

However I didn't stop, I worked, I earned, I saved, I invested and traded, and right now I have nearly back to that level of money saved again, took me about 2 years but I have reached there obviously with a great help from bitcoin as well. Long story short you can go to zero, have nothing, and you can still regroup and get back on the horse. Never be discouraged, anything is possible if you are willing to work for it.

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how can i invest my asset if they are already an asset ? or you mean convert my asset to cash to invest in btc or swap my asset to btc .

 no need for that because i dont invest on any other asset except for btc but if youl ask if how much  percent of money are we going to put on btc , i can put 20 to 30 percent because i have lots of expenses and the rest 70 to 80 percent of my money are hardly going to be enough for me to live for a month untill i recieve my salary again
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I would’ve invested my assets in December, right now the pricing is dropping day by day and Bitcoin is stabalizing, I would invest around 40% taking into account the pandemic .
I would also consider to invest some percentage of that In Eth.
Right now is definitely not a good idea to invest if you are looking for a short time investment
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It is possible that there will be a few more bitcoins in the future, and there will be a possibility that the bubble will burst?

To answer the question in the subject of the post, considering how speculative bitcoin is as an asset, far below 1%.  As for the possibility of bitcoin being a bubble that could burst, you can never rule it out. The history is nothing volatility based on speculation.

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It is possible that there will be a few more bitcoins in the future, and there will be a possibility that the bubble will burst?

there won't be more than 21million bitcoins circulating in the market. Instead there'll be lost of some of the total supply as a result of the careless nature of humans and others will be held off exchanges by holders in the form of institutional investors and retail investors.

Yes there is already limit to number of bitcoin which will not increase but possible for reduction from the analysis you have made


Anything is possible, although bitcoin can't be hacked but we have different theory going around which might just cause harm if they were to be possible but only time will tell.

Including that we need to be careful of our hodling and wallet codes so that they don't get hacked or being scammed. The crypto environment is filled with different possibilities and we have to invest wisely.
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Including that we need to be careful of our hodling and wallet codes so that they don't get hacked or being scammed. The crypto environment is filled with different possibilities and we have to invest wisely.
Of course, we don't need to be greedy just because we believe in the potential that exists in bitcoin or other crypto investment asset. Due to volatility and price fluctuation, all that would have been possible even though we now know that adoption is increasing. We all need good judgment before deciding how much money to invest and we must also consider accepting all the consequences that will occur in the future.

Bitcoin is the best investment choice in the crypto market, this asset should be in the portfolio of every crypto investor. Seeing institutional investors are very interested in these assets that I thought it would be best to buy some while hoping the price will continue to increase.

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At the moment I have around 10-15% of my savings invested in crypto currencies, the same amount is invested in stocks and bonds. And a small part of around 5% is invested in a real estate fund. The other 50% of my savings I just hold in cash. Due to the corona pandemic I sold some stocks and bonds just to have a bit more cash for some potential needs. Once everything goes back to normal I would like to go up to 25% Cryptos, 25% Stocks and 25% Bonds/Real Estate.
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how can i invest my asset if they are already an asset ? or you mean convert my asset to cash to invest in btc or swap my asset to btc .

 no need for that because i dont invest on any other asset except for btc but if youl ask if how much  percent of money are we going to put on btc , i can put 20 to 30 percent because i have lots of expenses and the rest 70 to 80 percent of my money are hardly going to be enough for me to live for a month untill i recieve my salary again
If we don't have a family, the meaning of the word doesn't have a wife and children, while we still receive salaries from our work every month, people who already understand crypto will change to a few percent BTC assets depending on their needs.

Like me, because I know that investing in bitcoin is very promising for the long term, therefore part of my income from this forum will be used as a future investment. meaning in crypto technology and 50% I will set aside for bitcoin investment.

In fact, I want my full income from trading and investment from bitcoin and some altcoins.

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First of all, there won't be another Bitcoin in future because Bitcoin has its own identity and maybe we can call it the father of cryptocurrencies so its like although there might be better coins made in future with more purpose and utility but the fact remains that Bitcoin was the first and only cryptocurrency so it cannot be replaced.

Moving forward we already see that there are some excellent projects like DOT which solves the problems that were not covered by the previous projects. So, basically what Bitcoin lacked was covered by Ethereum and what ETH lacks will be covered by DOT as people say and what DOT lacks will be then picked up by other projects and new coins or tokens will be launched based on that.

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Over the course of 6 years, I have probably put something like 10% of my old fiat currency savings into bitcoin and that has probably been the best and soundest choice I could have made with my hard-earned money.
So true and I wish I could do that. I was watching a video which I wish I saw earlier because this  guy is spot on - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cw29h7LhEuE&t=161s

But I have no regrets either because I came into crypto decently early and I have only positive memories and balance in crypto so there is nothing I should regret about. I made a habit of buying some Bitcoins every time I save some money from my salary or when I get any kind of funds like interest and others.

It sounds crazy but 100k is within reach and more realistic now than ever before so not going to sell my coins anytime soon and while I don't suggest or buy myself at $30k+ but the actual worth of Bitcoins is even more and if you still buy you can double or triple your money.

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To be honest, I would only invest 15% of my total assets into this technology. Not because I don't see how profitable this technology as an investment, but simply because, I am aiming for a more consistent profit from an investment. The profit is indeed big in Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies but to how I look the risk, I guess I would more prefer' slow but sure profit in which I am getting from other assets and investments I am having in real life. The patten in my opinion is more visible in real estate investment than crypto investment. But I won't hide the fact that profit is bigger from my crypto investments, and can be earned in a shorter period of time.

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January 24, 2021, 06:37:01 PM
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From a classical point of view it would be about 5%.

However, you'll probably find people in this forum who hold more. If you have a deep knowledge of what Bitcoin is and you believe in its future you can have a much higher percentage of that. It depends on your personal situation and total net worth as well. If you have virtually nothing, not even a paid-off house or some equity on it, it's too risky to have 95% of your total wealth in Bitcoin. But if you have a couple of houses and some other assets that  will make you live comfortably even if the worst omens about Bitcoin come true, you can have a very high % of your net worth in Bitcoin.
Depending on the size of your capital this could be even lower as there are people so rich that 1% is good enough for them, however this allocation is a just to be safe kind of investment, it is recommended to those that invest in traditional assets and that low percentage is used as an insurance policy in the case that everything goes to hell.

But for the people that are not interested in stocks and other markets then it is obvious that their asset allocation is going to be way higher than that, and this is more true if we consider that bitcoin was the investment of the previous decade and it seems this one is also going to be a good one.

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Regarding the total wealth I have, I have invested 50% in Bitcoin, the rest I have invested in Gold and a few stocks market. Maybe if Bitcoin
manages to hit $ 100k this year according to the target I set, then the profit I get from Bitcoin I will use for investing in real estate.

I'm not a person who thinks too far ahead, so don't dare to speculate whether in the future there will be a few more Bitcoins. I can not answer
and do not dare to confirm, because I am more focused on my plans to increase the assets that I have. Then with the possibility that the Bitcoin
bubble price this year will burst, it doesn't seem like it will happen, because the Bitcoin price correction is still not too far away. For now the Bitcoin
price is still stable above the price of $ 30,000. I predict that February should at least be back at $ 40,000 again.

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Regarding the total wealth I have, I have invested 50% in Bitcoin, the rest I have invested in Gold and a few stocks market. Maybe if Bitcoin manages to hit $ 100k this year according to the target I set, then the profit I get from Bitcoin I will use for investing in real estate.

I'm not a person who thinks too far ahead, so don't dare to speculate whether in the future there will be a few more Bitcoins. I can not answer and do not dare to confirm, because I am more focused on my plans to increase the assets that I have. Then with the possibility that the Bitcoin bubble price this year will burst, it doesn't seem like it will happen, because the Bitcoin price correction is still not too far away. For now the Bitcoin price is still stable above the price of $ 30,000. I predict that February should at least be back at $ 40,000 again.
Real estate is like some dream for many people, including me, why is that like that? I mean looking at crypto I feel like it is a much better investment than buying a place isn't it? When you buy let's say a condo and rent it out, you both get money from the rent if your renter is decent but also your condo gets valued higher and higher with time (inflation) so yeah I am not arguing like that is a bad one, it is definitely a great thing to invest into real estate.

However crypto made 4x just this year, even more when you consider the bottom, from bottom to peak was 10x, nobody makes that kind of return but let's say 4x from start of last year to now. That is awesome but if I had enough money, I would have invested into real estate as well instead of cyrpto even though I know crypto is a better investment. Why do people like you and me think this way? Do you have any idea?

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Knowing that Cryptocurrency is included in a high-risk type of investment, of course, I will not make a lot of investment in all of my investment assets for Cryptocurrency. price madness can occur but we are talking for future assets and it would be nice if we are channeled into some other assets that can compensate for the fluctuation of the crypto market. currently 15% of my  investment is in cryptocurrency and this is final every month I set aside the money I work for Crypto. even then I broke into Bitcoin and Altcoin

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That is awesome but if I had enough money, I would have invested into real estate as well instead of cyrpto even though I know crypto is a better investment. Why do people like you and me think this way? Do you have any idea?
Risk factors ?

Actually, every investor knows that all types of investment have risks even though the risks they face are different. There is no investment without risk and that is the main point.
At least I already know that there are many risks faced by real estate investor and maybe 10 points more. On the other hand, the profit obtained by real estate investor also depend a lot on how they are managed.

The risk of investing in bitcoin or crypto becomes an obstacle for people who don't like to play with big risks. Its unstable price is one of the factors that makes some people uninterested. In addition, the risk crypto investors have to face is security as it is likely that all crypto assets stored in the wallet will be lost or stolen due to one small mistake. But a big profit for those who dare to take big risks too.

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January 26, 2021, 06:40:09 AM
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It's considered high risk investment for a reason and I always keep my asset maybe around 20% or below in form of cryptos more specifically bitcoin but man this time around that was dumbest thing I've ever did considering all the pumps but then again it's high-risk investment no one know for sure.

But i'm still gonna diversify my asset across many investment instruments just in case and I don't really like keeping thing in one place despite the crypto pump that made me kinda regret not having additional asset in crypto.
The reality is that we are all in a world where fiat is a lot more riskier than crypto and thats the truth. Sure bitcoin can go down a lot and crash, or it could go up a lot and skyrocket, but the reality is that as long as fiat gets less valuable, you are going to be upset about not having more crypto because when fiat becomes less valuable the price of bitcoin goes up.

Look at 2020, almost all nations printed some money and made so much more debt and that had to be one of the worst years for fiat ever, even stock market that went up didn't went up nearly enough and made anyone money, because fiat lost value so the money you got was less valuable than the previous year. What happened with bitcoin though? It went up over 4 times, actually closer to 7 times in a year, and that doesn't happen anywhere at all. That is why it is not risky, it is just requires patience.

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Well, talking about investing in bitcoin, you should know that investing in bitcoin (hodling) is a rather good investment considering how bitcoin has managed to increase in price over the years.
Hodling comes with low risk. Buy some bitcoins and hold them for a long time until there's a significant amount of profits.
I'd invest about 50% of my total assets in bitcoin. Invest some in gold and real estate. That way, I am sure of making significant profits in a few years.
I think the only risk involved with buying and hodling bitcoin is security. If you're able to secure your coins well, then you're good to go.

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As for me 30% of my assets is what I'm willing to take risks with, this is the exact amount I can afford to lose, I know bitcoin is very strong and also have a better future than other valuable assets out there but we can't be too sure what tomorrow may bring, one have to be cautious

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Regarding the total wealth I have, I have invested 50% in Bitcoin, the rest I have invested in Gold and a few stocks market. Maybe if Bitcoin
manages to hit $ 100k this year according to the target I set, then the profit I get from Bitcoin I will use for investing in real estate.
I would have invested half of my wealth if i knew beforehand that the price of bitcoin would rally like this from the beginning, even though i invested in bitcoin i did not expect a rally like this in a short period of time. I do invest in stock market but only a percentage of my asset and i did all that for the long term. I already invested in real estate a long time ago and hence i am not planning to invest anything further but i was planning to sell one of my property to invest in bitcoin last year but the pandemic messed up my plan.
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Bitcoin, despite what altcoins make it out to be, is still a profitable asset and a must-have in every crypto investor's portfolio, regardless if its price went up the hundred thousands. You might be asking why, well simply because out of all the coins in the market, bitcoin provides better security than most of them, of course in terms of being active in the market. So you have little chance of going wrong with bitcoin, whether it be up or down. Combine this with DCA and you're unstoppable!

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January 26, 2021, 07:09:13 PM
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As for me 30% of my assets is what I'm willing to take risks with, this is the exact amount I can afford to lose, I know bitcoin is very strong and also have a better future than other valuable assets out there but we can't be too sure what tomorrow may bring, one have to be cautious

If you are capable of sparing that amount of percentage then you can keep your assets for longer time, 30% is really high and once

you successfully holds your investment that might bring you a better future ahead, Bitcoin already proved that holding for longer time

frame might provide a much higher appreciation.
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Irrelevant title to the content you said in your post.
Yeah but he might have been wanting to ask whether people are still keeping Bitcoins or more enthusiastic about upcoming tokens. I think while the bullrun is going on it is no-brainer that BTC is better to trade and hold but once the bull run has ended I am more lean towards the altcoins because the growth altcoin witness is huge.

It depends on everyone's income source so we can't conclude that certain percentage is enough to invest on cryptocurrencies.IMHO the middle class people likes to invest on real estate more than the speculative assets so if you are from such class then better invest 50% from your savings money to bitcoin after every pay cheque.
The real question should be how much of our crypto wealth is in BTC and how much we hold in ALTS, I know not everyone can afford to invest big into crypto but what I am wondering is how much faith people have in BTC and how much they trust the other tokens in the market.

Personally, right now I am saving more bitcoins than tokens because the bull run is again going to continue anytime soon, it has paused sort of recently but I am adamant that another bullrun is near the corner.

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will only try 5% of my assets to invest in bitcoin, because I like to play slowly and walk every step of the way. currently in bitcoin is like speculation, yes even though bitcoin will definitely experience a big bubble but at that time it is not yet certain when and what percentage of bitcoin experiences this

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Because bitcoin is the most valuable, safest and most profitable coin.  I will spend 65/100% of my money on steak on bitcoin.  15% for ETH, 5% for TRX.  And 10% for a new Defi project or to start a hot trend.  Get ready for your plan, the bulls could run faster this year.  Hopefully the value of bitcoin will break through the $ 50k in Q2.

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Risk factors ?

Actually, every investor knows that all types of investment have risks even though the risks they face are different. There is no investment without risk and that is the main point.
At least I already know that there are many risks faced by real estate investor and maybe 10 points more. On the other hand, the profit obtained by real estate investor also depend a lot on how they are managed.

The risk of investing in bitcoin or crypto becomes an obstacle for people who don't like to play with big risks. Its unstable price is one of the factors that makes some people uninterested. In addition, the risk crypto investors have to face is security as it is likely that all crypto assets stored in the wallet will be lost or stolen due to one small mistake. But a big profit for those who dare to take big risks too.
Risk factors could be one true, but I do not see bitcoin as risky at all, because I am a long term investor, I am not planning on selling it until I retire or I can buy some shop with it, I have no intend to run that said shop, I just want to buy it and rent it to someone else (I do not like homes, they are way too much work, shops handle their own problems and only pay you).

I have thought about why I feel like real estate gives me more comfort and it is not about risk, I think it is about ease of ownership. Bitcoin is something we still have trouble explaining to people, even to ourselves and we check it every 5 minutes how it is doing, but with real estate you just say "this is mine" and that's it, from that point on that is yours and it is simple, it has no complex idea behind it, you just show that to the world.

Is it a worse investment than bitcoin? Yes. However it is at least there for you to see and touch if you want, I want something physical to be frank, that is the reason I think.

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The reality is that we are all in a world where fiat is a lot more riskier than crypto and thats the truth. Sure bitcoin can go down a lot and crash, or it could go up a lot and skyrocket, but the reality is that as long as fiat gets less valuable, you are going to be upset about not having more crypto because when fiat becomes less valuable the price of bitcoin goes up.

Look at 2020, almost all nations printed some money and made so much more debt and that had to be one of the worst years for fiat ever, even stock market that went up didn't went up nearly enough and made anyone money, because fiat lost value so the money you got was less valuable than the previous year. What happened with bitcoin though? It went up over 4 times, actually closer to 7 times in a year, and that doesn't happen anywhere at all. That is why it is not risky, it is just requires patience.
The issue is that governments have control of the media and they also know very well the psychology of people, when people see the price of bitcoin going down relatively quickly they get nervous but if you look at the chart of bitcoin over the years you can see it only goes up.

Fiat behaves in the opposite way, it may not seem to move much on the short term but over the long term it only goes down in value against the products and services you can buy with it, and people simply do not see this, so for people like us that care about the long term bitcoin is the superior choice but most people are blind to this.

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January 29, 2021, 06:34:35 AM
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To avoid been panic whenever bitcoin dumps in value the healthy amount of percentage should be 10% or 15%, this can make you hold for long term even if Bitcoin isn't in good shape because you invested only what you can afford to lose which I recommend everyone to do
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January 29, 2021, 07:01:45 AM
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At present, the remaining digital currencies are still far from the influence of Bitcoin, and even if the bubble bursts, it will not happen in the near future. For me, I will control my investment in Bitcoin within the range that will not affect my daily life even if all losses.
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