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January 24, 2021, 11:20:23 AM
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Won`t our Olympics be kind of fucked up with a bunch of men who think they are women in the women category.

Do you think real women will actually ever win anything now?

That's where their "EQUALITY" takes them. As they want everything to be equal, things such as this occur and backfire to their own motive. If only they can only understand that there will always be a difference between estrogen and testosterone, the world would be so much better tbh.

Anyway, a real woman will really be at disadvantage for this. These transgenders even make their own records in weightlifting and it is kind of disturbing.

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January 24, 2021, 01:33:16 PM
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they should split it into several divisions depending on your levels of certain hormones, similar to how fighting sports have weight divisions. Natural hormone levels are a huge determining factor in sports even among people of the same birth sex. Maybe they should even allow people to supplement hormones to bring them up to some standard levels for the division. The vast majority of people are basically excluded at birth from ever competing in eg. the Olympics because no matter how high their personal drive/spirit, they just don't have good enough body chemistry, and is that really fair?

The issue with this approach, though, is where do we stop? Hormone levels are a determining factor, yes. But what about, for example, height? You could be the most talented and skilled basketball player in the world, but if you're 5ft tall you'd never make it as a professional. How about if you have two really dedicated sprinters, both with perfect diet and training regimen, but one naturally has significantly more fast-twitch muscle fibres, and wins every time. Genetic and other natural variations account for at least a proportion of elite sports performance.

I suppose we could look at the paralympics to get some context. There are many different classifications of competitor, leading to many different versions of each event... but wherever you have bandings, you have some people at the top end of the band and some at the lower, some whose disability means they're on the border of bands A/B, and some who are on the border B/C... if they both get grouped as 'B' and have to compete against one another, then is that fair?

If the aim is to ensure a level playing field that removes all genetic or other innate advantage, then we don't just need a few more separate divisions of competition, we need as many divisions as there are people. Even if we tried to level it up by permitting hormone supplementation, that would only go so far, and would highlight the other physical factors.

I'd argue that elite sport is—and should be—about who is the best, not who makes the best of what they've got. If the fastest and strongest have certain innate physical advantages, and they have made full use of those advantages, then they deserve to be considered the best. If someone is biologically a woman, they should be allowed to compete as such, regardless of hormone levels (excepting of course illegal doping).






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January 24, 2021, 04:29:38 PM
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Won`t our Olympics be kind of fucked up with a bunch of men who think they are women in the women category.

Do you think real women will actually ever win anything now?

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Humans should be allowed to use whatever chemicals or naturally occurring substances they want to improve their performance.

Without any 'drug rules', people can just get to the business of competing, not cheating, and beating the drug tests.

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The Olympics is supposed to be a competition among amateur athletes. Performance-enhancing drugs are banned in the Olympics because the winner of Olympic metals is supposed to be the best athletes, not who can find/take the best performance-enhancing drugs.


It is already about who can take the best drugs and not get caught.  Are you naive?

The ones who are 'clean' were smart enough to hire professionals to manage their hormone levels and in some cases take other drugs to pass the 'drug tests'.  Every athlete out there has experimented with steroids when recovering from injury, or to speed up recovery from overtraining.

I say make no drug limitations and make things more interesting.  Let's see who can break the 9-sec barrier in a 100m dash.

Athletes are endangering their lives by subjecting their bodies to decades of physical assault.  It is not healthy even if you don't take performance-enhancing drugs.

What is next, are you going to limit how much they can train?  How much they can spend on the support team?

Olympics stopped being an amateurs' competition a long time ago.  Be real.  People should stop pretending.

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January 24, 2021, 06:04:21 PM
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What is next, are you going to limit how much they can train?  

soccer players now limited to not heading the ball. even during practice/training
american footballers now limited to not tackling others headfirst. even during practice training

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100 years ago soccer(UK football) was a rivalry game between 2 towns. where it was used to settle disputies between neighbouring towns. injuries were allowed. it was like sanctioned community fight battle and the ball was the measure of which side wins depending on who could get it to their oppositions side more.

now its a 'friendly sport' players get rewarded for claiming they break a toenail. and the opposition get penalised for it.

whats next play sports based on video game plays where no human contact is allowed(E-games)

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January 25, 2021, 01:00:35 AM
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throw in a lion and cheetah into the mix and ses who wins.

Interleague games would be interesting. "It's your New York Yankees versus a team comprised of nothing but Kodiak bears!"

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January 25, 2021, 01:58:07 AM
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Won`t our Olympics be kind of fucked up with a bunch of men who think they are women in the women category.

Do you think real women will actually ever win anything now?

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Humans should be allowed to use whatever chemicals or naturally occurring substances they want to improve their performance.

Without any 'drug rules', people can just get to the business of competing, not cheating, and beating the drug tests.

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The Olympics is supposed to be a competition among amateur athletes. Performance-enhancing drugs are banned in the Olympics because the winner of Olympic metals is supposed to be the best athletes, not who can find/take the best performance-enhancing drugs.


It is already about who can take the best drugs and not get caught.  Are you naive?

The ones who are 'clean' were smart enough to hire professionals to manage their hormone levels and in some cases take other drugs to pass the 'drug tests'.  Every athlete out there has experimented with steroids when recovering from injury, or to speed up recovery from overtraining.

I say make no drug limitations and make things more interesting.  Let's see who can break the 9-sec barrier in a 100m dash.

Athletes are endangering their lives by subjecting their bodies to decades of physical assault.  It is not healthy even if you don't take performance-enhancing drugs.

What is next, are you going to limit how much they can train?  How much they can spend on the support team?

Olympics stopped being an amateurs' competition a long time ago.  Be real.  People should stop pretending.

Athletes are already limited as to how much they can train by virtue of how the human body works. If they exceed these limits, they will face injuries and will end up hurting their performance.

I have to disagree with you that using performance-enhancing drugs is necessary and that not using them is dangerous. Damage from using performance-enhancing drugs is permanent, while damage from training-related injuries is generally temporary, and Olympic-level athletes have trainers who help them avoid these types of injuries.

According to the World Olympics Association, one of the core values is Excellence, which is "...about giving one's best ...[and]... trying your hardest to win...". Using performance-enhancing drugs is not compatible with this principle.

All other major sports leagues also ban performance-enhancing drugs.

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