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January 23, 2021, 06:37:46 PM
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https://www.gamblinginsider.com/news/10900/thailand-government-announces-sub-committees-to-combat-illegal-gambling


I came across this news where the government of Thailand is looking to get a sub committee ready to tackle the illegal gambling in the country.

They do believe that these gambling sites are the ones spreading the COVID more.

I do believe that people living in thailand should be careful if they are engaging in such things and also think about the consequences for sure. Since this time the people and the governing body of these illegal casinos will have a major problem.

I do believe that the government is not only working to eradicate the COVID hotspots but at the same time they want to make gambling businesses only legal since the revenues are forever in the favor of the government.

Now let's look at some quote taken from google :
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There is a lot of gambling in Thailand. An estimated 70 percent of adults gamble regularly, and the total value added involved is huge—possibly over 200 billion baht a year. With some small exceptions, all of this gambling activity is illegal.


Now most of the activities are illegal , so the government would shut down these businesses and at the same time might force some of them to work towards legally starting a new casino , which would be in the favour of the government. Though I don't understand why the revenues is so high ? Since most small businesses won't be able to handle such restrictions.

I do believe that the government with regards to shutting down such business should also think about decreasing the tax revenues for them since most of them are small shop owners and they will continue to do so legally or illegally what matters is how better the government integrates it in the society.

What do you think ?
Should they make reforms before shutting down the whole thing ? I think this could benefit people and the government as a whole.

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January 23, 2021, 06:51:31 PM
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Given the current situation of the pandemic, business owners are opting to establish illegal gambling facilities to at least help them with their situation. But the pandemic alone does not justify their illegal gambling activities especially that they lack all the required licenses and permits to do so.

What do you think ?
Should they make reforms before shutting down the whole thing ? I think this could benefit people and the government as a whole.

The government needs to formulate ideas on how to at least combat unemployment and job opportunities given the pandemic. People are resulting to illegal activities due to the situation that most are being laid off by the companies. In addition, tax rates must also be adjusted given the current situation. This will benefit both sides in the long run and until countries have adjusted to the pandemic.

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January 23, 2021, 06:57:09 PM
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Given the current situation of the pandemic, business owners are opting to establish illegal gambling facilities to at least help them with their situation. But the pandemic alone does not justify their illegal gambling activities especially that they lack all the required licenses and permits to do so.

What do you think ?
Should they make reforms before shutting down the whole thing ? I think this could benefit people and the government as a whole.

The government needs to formulate ideas on how to at least combat unemployment and job opportunities given the pandemic. People are resulting to illegal activities due to the situation that most are being laid off by the companies. In addition, tax rates must also be adjusted given the current situation. This will benefit both sides in the long run and until countries have adjusted to the pandemic.

Ofcourse this is not at all justified but at the same time I do believe that the stimulus bills are not available in every country and therefore the government should at least give like a month for these people to register and then at least reduce the tax according to how small and the big the business is because in small countries it is indeed a very normal thing to have illegal gambling places, more common than one would think.

I know a lot of people who were behind the bars and then started again the moment they got out of the jail. This is a never ending chase and therefore I do believe that this needs to be tackled more deeply. Instead of giving them hefty charges they need to give them time and at the same time keep it in check every now and then.

Illegal gambling places are not only dangerous but they are too deep rooted and therefore I think they need to use some positive force here especially in thailand.

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January 23, 2021, 07:01:09 PM
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Should be done even before. It's no secret that not just Thailand, but other countries also noticed the growth of illegal gambling, whether online or not, during the lockdown period, to target those people that lurking in their homes. Honestly, the people themselves play a big role in the rise of these illegal gambling as they tend to play gambling here compare to regulated ones.

Simple as it is; no license, running and operating illegally, not complying with the safety and health protocol = then shut down those businesses. If small operators can comply, no reason at all for other operators not to follow the legal way.

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January 23, 2021, 07:36:29 PM
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Illegal gambling cannot be completely eradicated. The only way that could have been done is educating the people on the menace that comes with it but the chances that all of them would take that education serious, learn and live by it is very much a 50-60 chance. It could go some lent to reducing it but then, it won't stop it. Legalizing lots of games gambled on could be another best way to go but still, it won't stop illegal gambling.
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January 23, 2021, 08:15:28 PM
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Based on the article, I can conclude that their goal is mostly because of the spreading virus although they have a sub committee for the long term which means they are also doing it for the sake of this people and maybe the government. I think it would be hard for them to identify these places as people would side with the gamblers than the one under the law.

Here in our country, when the police comes to illegal gambling dens, some people even hide those people so they will not be caught.

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January 23, 2021, 08:26:31 PM
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Nothing can fix this kind of problems and to be fair, these restrictions does more harm than good. People always do what you want, so none restriction can fully prevent it. What do you think, are most part of people seriously staying at home? People still workout secretly, still offer some services secretly, people still do things that they were doing before secretly. But if we return to the subject of this topic, it's hard for me to believe that people go in underground casinos because nowadays online gambling is highly developed and popular too, there is done everything for customers comfort.

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January 23, 2021, 09:14:00 PM
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Nothing can fix this kind of problems and to be fair, these restrictions does more harm than good. People always do what you want, so none restriction can fully prevent it. What do you think, are most part of people seriously staying at home? People still workout secretly, still offer some services secretly, people still do things that they were doing before secretly. But if we return to the subject of this topic, it's hard for me to believe that people go in underground casinos because nowadays online gambling is highly developed and popular too, there is done everything for customers comfort.

hard to beat people that know where to go or hide when authorities come. they will do it again and again. what if address the reason why they are into illegal gambling? maybe because they need money in order to survive during this crisis. and knowing thailand, a lot of its people are also in poverty. so maybe, create jobs or small businesses that will cater their daily needs. that may address the occurrence of illegal gambling. address the root cause and you will eradicate the effect.

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January 23, 2021, 10:56:21 PM
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Should be done even before. It's no secret that not just Thailand, but other countries also noticed the growth of illegal gambling, whether online or not, during the lockdown period, to target those people that lurking in their homes. Honestly, the people themselves play a big role in the rise of these illegal gambling as they tend to play gambling here compare to regulated ones.

Simple as it is; no license, running and operating illegally, not complying with the safety and health protocol = then shut down those businesses. If small operators can comply, no reason at all for other operators not to follow the legal way.

Not everything in this world has to be and can be made legal. The government always acts like it wants to help the people but for them it's about money.

Illegal gambling doesn't leave taxes in their pocket and legal businesses need licenses to operate and can be shut down and fined if needed. It also costs money to track down illegal casinos but legal ones need to register and need to fill all the paperwork which is not free. Every clerk wants some fee for every document you file.
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January 23, 2021, 11:14:55 PM
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I don't get it. They are officially offering marijuana food and cosmetics now and are having one of the biggest hookers industry for sex tourism, but are having problems with gambling...

If the COVID is the primary concern, they must stop everything, not just illegal gambling.
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January 23, 2021, 11:27:24 PM
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it's hard for me to believe that people go in underground casinos because nowadays online gambling is highly developed and popular too,

If you will read the article, you can picture out that gambling sessions there really happens in a certain place.

Since the TH government will now officially seek measures and shutdown those illegal gamblers, it means there are reports about it that are valid and confirmed. Maybe in your country, that wasn't the situation but in Thailand, there are lots of violators, not just because they are gambling illegally but they disregard the health protocols about the Covid-19.

If the COVID is the primary concern, they must stop everything, not just illegal gambling.

Probably they are working on it. It's difficult to tackle down other problems at the same time when people themselves aren't cooperating.

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January 23, 2021, 11:45:45 PM
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What do you think ?
Should they make reforms before shutting down the whole thing ? I think this could benefit people and the government as a whole.

There should be at least some reconsideration on how much reductions or taxes that would really be imposed or applied.They should consider also the small ones
rather than focusing solely on bigger to make some big deductions.It will surely hurt up even though it does have viable positive effects on the country as a whole
when it comes to progress and development but if they wont really be making some changes then those business owners wouldnt have a choice.
On other thing about saying that gambling places are source of covid, ? well thats have some points but to look on other side of the world where
gambling physical places had already opened but of course they do really follow strict health protocol.
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Illegal gambling is the concern of all countries because it deprives the government of revenues and since they are not bound by any laws they can break any laws even allowing underage to play and besides illegal gambling is the cash cows of corrupt government officials, they could be one of the reasons why there are spread of Covid in Thailand because they are not bound by any laws.


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Looking at Thailands total covid cases including the active and deaths statistics, I can say that they are good in fighting against it. But recently the spike is noticeable.

And if they are thinking that illegal gambling operations are the ones that's helping to spread the virus quickly, it is two birds with one stone that they do.



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January 24, 2021, 07:06:28 AM
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Since most of it is illegal, those casinos have no right to be operating. The government probably wants to make it legal to tax the so it's going to be a win-win. I believe that people would have more confidence in the casinos if it's registered. If it doesn't observe the right precautionary approach to prevent the spreading of the virus, then it's the establishment's fault.

Probably there are a lot more not yet discovered but that's what makes the gambling area even more enticing. A lot of VIP gamblers would sure to go there. Maybe that's the reason why they don't want to go legal.

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Illegal gambling is the concern of all countries because it deprives the government of revenues and since they are not bound by any laws they can break any laws even allowing underage to play and besides illegal gambling is the cash cows of corrupt government officials, they could be one of the reasons why there are spread of Covid in Thailand because they are not bound by any laws.
Exactly, that's why we should always stick on the gambling sites that have a license because they had the authorization to operate gambling that bound to the country's laws. This is the most problem by the country and I think not the only the government of Thailand, even in Indonesia they are very strict on it.

It's prone to fraud if we tolerate gambling sites that didn't have a license to operate, they can manipulate their system and I guess the provably fair system will not work once they are no licensed.

Regarding land-based gambling, if they don't want to legalize all forms of gambling it means they don't want gambling tolerated in their country and that is their jurisdiction, and even us we have nothing to do.

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Illegal gambling is the main target of the government because it steals some of the revenue of the legal gambling owned by such authorities related to the government and mostly those illegal gambling don't have any health restrictions which is really required for every casino to implement. Gambling is such a good business and a good thing to make our economy bring back to normal because of its high tax.

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Legalised some gambling platform will be the solution here. Cracking down on illegal gambling won't be the solution as it will just pop up and move to other places and it's going to be very difficult for the government to come and stop all those illegal gambling. Also the issue of corruption, for sure this illegal operators are not afraid because maybe some big politician or corrupt police officials are behind the operations. So it's better to just legalised some form of gambling, win win for the government and the gamblers.

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It is better to stop all illegal gambling activities in every country because it is possible to not follow also the guidelines about health now like we are in the Pandemic that high chances to get the virus if the people are crowded
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I think we all know that the Covid argument here is just pretextual. The state is losing millions of dollars in tax revenue due to illegal gambling, and of course they don't want to miss out on that.
Covid is, of course, a great reason to get the broadest possible support among the population for the measures taken.

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January 24, 2021, 11:25:13 AM
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Will these people accept with the regulation though?

People would think that the government wanted that taxes so bad that is why they are planning this all ahead. In my opinion it is really necessary for them to point out these illegal gambling places as there are a lot of people making these secret bets and secret profits that is like an underground gambling place to me. They need to address if they have a problem, and it is necessary for strict protocols.
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