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January 19, 2021, 07:58:55 PM
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How to act on “ Transaction invalid: some outputs that it attempts to spend have been already spent or are no longer valid.”

This means the transaction is invalid because the outputs do not exist (or are already spent).
Basically, you can not create that transaction with these UTXOs.

What wallet are you using? Is it fully synced?



its status has changed invalid and the amount sent added back to balance? I thought it has returned,   but in few hours it is send again automatically and again it has 0 confirmstion/unconfirmed.

I doubt the same transaction has been successfully broadcasted, since it is invalid  Huh
What is the transaction id?


https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/f7c148c844331e67a0cda69cce0f01eb5db56864bf649cb980236f45fa026de5

I'm using a web wallet. So I can not use RBF, childpayforparrent and other "smart words" you use.

The only thing I can do is just wait. But I would like to understand how long should I wait, a week, a month? Even though I will be notified if/when the transaction successfully leaves my wallet, but I can resist checking its status...

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January 19, 2021, 08:25:40 PM
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The only thing I can do is just wait. But I would like to understand how long should I wait, a week, a month? Even though I will be notified if/when the transaction successfully leaves my wallet, but I can resist checking its status...
It is impossible to say with any certainty how long it is going to take. Undecided


Your fee rate is around 2 sats/byte... Your transaction is (according to blockstream.info) currently 48.78 vMB from tip. This means, that if no new transactions were created, it would take around 48 blocks for your transaction to be confirmed, which would be around 480 minutes... or 8 hours.

However, that would be an absolute minimum amount of time as, obviously, other people are going to be creating/sending transactions... a lot of which will pay higher fees than you. Indeed, since I started typing this, your transaction is now 49.20 vMB from tip... so it's already another block further away from being confirmed Undecided

In reality, it's likely to take days given the current state of the network, due to the current high prices and high network activity. Things do tend to quieten down on the weekends, so there is a chance that the mempool could "empty out" and your transaction will get confirmed then... but again, no guarantees on that. Undecided


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January 19, 2021, 09:19:14 PM
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With huge traffic, the Bitcoin network is currently experiencing it maybe month ending or more before the transaction gets confirmed but it will be better if bakasabo use a transaction fee estimator next time to avoid transaction stuck.
You can post your tx ID here conceivably this stoner can help cause he has once help me with the stuck transaction before.

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January 20, 2021, 08:36:09 AM
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I'm using a web wallet. So I can not use RBF, childpayforparrent and other "smart words" you use.
What kind of web wallet?
Because depending on the situation, you may be able to perform a manual CPFP (Child Pay for Parent) transaction since the change has enough value:
3CPhBiQvhoFB3TC9aEpGFqbGGw6wGr1S1Y - 0.00009179 BTC

Example:
If you don't have any other balance in that web wallet aside from that change's balance and want to use that as additional fee:
just send the lowest standard bitcoin amount (546 satoshi) to any address and the wallet will spend that UTXO.
By spending it, you practically performed a CPFP that may increase the total fee of your transactions to 7-8 sat/vB.
If you have other unspent outputs in the wallet and it doesn't have a way to select inputs, do not recklessly send as the wallet may spend the other UTXO that wont help your stuck transaction.

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January 20, 2021, 11:15:42 AM
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I think what might actually have happened in OP's case is that his transaction dropped from the mempool, the coins showed up again in his wallet, he tried to make a new transaction with them but was denied since the web wallet still had a record of his first transaction, and now his first transaction has been rebroadcast automatically by the web wallet.

As I said in my reply on the previous page, and as nc50lc has mentioned above, your only real option here is to perform a CPFP. The mempool is now empty enough (although this could change rapidly!) that a CPFP with your change would boost the fee enough to potentially get confirmed relatively soon.

Let us know if you want us to talk you through doing this, as depending on the web wallet and your other unspent outputs, it could be straightforward or somewhat complicated.

Which web wallet is it you are using? Blockchain.com?
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January 20, 2021, 11:39:29 AM
Last edit: January 20, 2021, 01:11:02 PM by bakasabo
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I'm using a BitGo web wallet.

I'm not even trying "to make a new transaction with them". Everything happens automatically. I just check my balance from time to time via blockchain.com and see how this unconfirmed transaction is being send every 3-4 days. Every time I see transactions status got changed from unconfirmed to invalid and the sum is return to balance, I'm always late to enter the wallet and try to "create new transaction with greater fee".

If you don't have any other balance in that web wallet aside from that change's balance and want to use that as additional fee:
just send the lowest standard bitcoin amount (546 satoshi) to any address and the wallet will spend that UTXO.
By spending it, you practically performed a CPFP that may increase the total fee of your transactions to 7-8 sat/vB.
If you have other unspent outputs in the wallet and it doesn't have a way to select inputs, do not recklessly send as the wallet may spend the other UTXO that wont help your stuck transaction.

I have 0.00257779 BTC left in my wallet. Besides this unconfirmed transaction, nothing is pending in my wallet.

The only option beside send and receive that I have is setting custom fee...

Can someone please also explain the following:



When I check my wallet I see this transaction dated 2021-01-18 and a negative red sum. When press F5 and refresh, I see it is green and todays date with green sum. Imo - green means my total balance should be increased as transaction returns, but it does not. Also I dont understand why I see same amount sent+fee, but total are 0,00496500 and 0,00499179.

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I'm using a BitGo web wallet.
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I have 0.00257779 BTC left in my wallet. Besides this unconfirmed transaction, nothing is pending in my wallet.

The only option beside send and receive that I have is setting custom fee...
Since there's no coin control and you have other unspent transactions, I'm afraid that all you can do is wait.

Can someone please also explain the following:



When I check my wallet I see this transaction dated 2021-01-18 and a negative red sum. When press F5 and refresh, I see it is green and todays date with green sum. Imo - green means my total balance should be increased as transaction returns, but it does not. Also I dont understand why I see same amount sent+fee, but total is 0,00496500 and 0,00499179.
It's because you've pasted the address on that blockexplorer (shown in the left side of the image). It's showing that the address: 3LURV5QPTb... has sent that total amount since it's in the input (sender) side.
For the right side of the image that displays the amount in green: It happens when you've search for the transaction ID instead; the inaccurate amount is because blockexplorers can't tell which is the change from recipient address, it will show the total value of the output(s) instead. It's green because it can't also tell if your address is one of the receiver or sender.

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January 20, 2021, 10:16:36 PM
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Since there's no coin control and you have other unspent transactions, I'm afraid that all you can do is wait.
That's not entirely accurate... if the OP sends their entire balance, the "unconfirmed" UTXO will be included. However, this only applies if the webwallet in question (BitGo) actually supports the spending of unconfirmed coins.

I've never used BitGo, so not sure if they support that or not.

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Hello. I need help with a stuck transaction a made from atomic wallet to my hardware wallet. The fee I set was too low. Could anyone help me to accelerate this tx?
IDTX: 273b0b01c90438e96662851d12903ed68be6b57f318407ea6055865776284e97.
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Hello. I need help with a stuck transaction a made from atomic wallet to my hardware wallet. The fee I set was too low. Could anyone help me to accelerate this tx?
IDTX: 273b0b01c90438e96662851d12903ed68be6b57f318407ea6055865776284e97.
There is not much you can do about this one, I'm afraid. You are not opted in to RBF, there is no change output to use for CPFP, and the fee is below the 10 sats/byte minimum needed to use ViaBTC's free accelerator. Your options are:

1 - wait for the mempool to empty and the transaction to confirm
2 - wait for the transaction to drop from the mempool, and then make a new one with a higher fee
3 - ask the recipient to make a CPFP
4 - pay a mining pool to include your transaction



Edit: I misread. Since you are sending to your own wallet, then your best option for speeding up the transaction is simply to spend the unconfirmed funds from your hardware wallet to another address in your hardware wallet, paying a much larger fee. However, given that the current fee rate for fast confirmation is around 100 sats/vbyte, and you will need to pay enough to put both your unconfirmed transaction and your CPFP transaction at this rate, then you are looking at paying a fee of around 40,000 sats, which is around $12. Up to you whether you want to pay this or just wait it out.
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January 21, 2021, 01:59:11 PM
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Hello. I need help with a stuck transaction a made from atomic wallet to my hardware wallet.
You're sending the transaction between your addresses, so your best option could be to wait it out; for the transaction to either get confirmed or get dropped from the mempool. Since you also control the hardware wallet you can carry out a CPFP without having to contact any recipient (if you do not want to wait it out). You would need pay a high fee to complete both the parent and child transaction, so if you're not in a hurry, it may not be worth it.

Rest assured, your Bitcoins are not lost and you still hold them. Remember to check the status of the network before signing a transaction with a certain fee rate.

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January 23, 2021, 09:14:57 PM
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Address A: from your Atomic wallet
Address B:. From your hardware wallet
Address C: the second address from your hardware wallet for cpfp

One thing about cpfp is that you will need to pay fee for:

1. The transaction you are sending from address B to address C
2. The balance to increase the fee in transaction A to B, this will though be included in fee while sending from B to C

This will make fee higher if compared to use of RBF, try to use electrum wallet next time for bitcoin and on RBF if you are making transaction with low fee in case so that you can use replace by fee that you will use low transaction if compared to cpfp that you will now use.


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I really appreciate the good post that I also gained from, but I have just some questions to ask. I am still confused about using cpfp from address B (the wallet you sent the bitcoin too). If address B have confirmed transaction already, not the input from address A, that means address B can use cpfp so far address B has balance that can be used for that? Or will address B have to be able to spend unconfirmed transaction before using cpfp and will need to spend from the input from address A for the cpfp to be successful?

Also the other question is that, if address B can use cpfp without need to spend unconfirmed transaction, and you send to wallet address B from another wallet (may be wallet Z)  after you have already send from address A that need cpfp, if the wallet Z transaction to address B was later confirmed, can it be used to do cpfp? Or cpfp in wallet B can only be done using unconfirmed transaction from wallet A as I asked before?

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January 23, 2021, 10:31:15 PM
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If address B have confirmed transaction already, not the input from address A, that means address B can use cpfp so far address B has balance that can be used for that? Or will address B have to be able to spend unconfirmed transaction before using cpfp and will need to spend from the input from address A for the cpfp to be successful?
So to do a CPFP, the second transaction - the child - must spend at least one of the unconfirmed outputs from the first transaction - the parent. Making a transaction from the same address but which spends unrelated coins would not accelerate the parent transaction.

So when you make a transaction from address B, it must include unconfirmed funds which came from address A. You can also include other funds from other transactions if you want to help pay for the higher fee, but the coins from address A must be used.

Also the other question is that, if address B can use cpfp without need to spend unconfirmed transaction, and you send to wallet address B from another wallet (may be wallet Z)  after you have already send from address A that need cpfp, if the wallet Z transaction to address B was later confirmed, can it be used to do cpfp? Or cpfp in wallet B can only be done using unconfirmed transaction from wallet A as I asked before?
So as above, you could use the funds from address Z to help contribute to the higher fee, but you must also include the unconfirmed transaction from address A.

So let's say I have an unconfirmed transaction from address A to address B, and I also have an already confirmed transaction from address Z to address B. I want to CPFP my unconfirmed transaction. I have to send my unconfirmed funds in address B to address C, and pay a higher fee. If I want, I could also include my confirmed funds in the same transaction, either to help pay for the fee, to consolidate them, etc., but I don't have to.
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