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Not sure.
Seems the date is closer.
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BADecker
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August 13, 2022, 02:47:46 PM |
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Trump crimes are far less than Biden and Pelosi and Obama crimes. But everybody does a crime or two now and again. Probably Trump never did any crime at all worthy of prison. What's important is, so far no court has convicted any of them of prison type crimes. Innocent until proven guilty.
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August 13, 2022, 09:46:14 PM |
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Trump crimes are far less than Biden and Pelosi and Obama crimes. But everybody does a crime or two now and again. Probably Trump never did any crime at all worthy of prison. What's important is, so far no court has convicted any of them of prison type crimes. Innocent until proven guilty. I think I can guess what is wrong with op...hmm! Trump had done nothing that will make him go to prison so I still don't get why some bunch of agitators keeps stressing their mouth for a discussion about what he did right or wrong. So many things are going wrong now than when Trump was in government so I still don't get the reason for this hate consensus about Trump going to prison
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August 14, 2022, 04:30:05 PM |
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Trump crimes are far less than Biden and Pelosi and Obama crimes. But everybody does a crime or two now and again. Probably Trump never did any crime at all worthy of prison. What's important is, so far no court has convicted any of them of prison type crimes. Innocent until proven guilty. I think I can guess what is wrong with op...hmm! Trump had done nothing that will make him go to prison so I still don't get why some bunch of agitators keeps stressing their mouth for a discussion about what he did right or wrong. So many things are going wrong now than when Trump was in government so I still don't get the reason for this hate consensus about Trump going to prison Those people have faith and hope in the Dem and Biden words that promise them wealth. And some of them have been made a bit richer at the expense of a whole lot of others. And there's the propagandists who are working for Biden and the Dem leaders and Soros, and get paid to blab nonsense and lies.
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August 14, 2022, 05:09:56 PM |
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Every damned politician ought to be in jail
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August 14, 2022, 05:28:27 PM Last edit: August 15, 2022, 01:41:03 PM by BADecker |
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Every damned politician ought to be in jail
This is probably true. But the reasons are probably not what you think they are. For example, Rand Paul is very reasonable in the good he is trying to promote. And there are others that are similar. Bottom line reason why they are wrong is that they don't train the people in common law. But rather, they try to hide and abuse common law. Even the good politicians do this, because they are ignorant of what common law really is.
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August 15, 2022, 01:02:02 PM |
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About what kind of crimes exactly you are talking? All politicians commit crimes...
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August 15, 2022, 01:23:35 PM |
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Every damned politician ought to be in jail
Yes. No politician is a Saint, if we should check all politicians all will be in jail. Most politicians when ever power is in their hands they abuse power and do whatever they feel like, I don't really blame them because it is the privilege send the opportunity they have .
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August 15, 2022, 01:56:51 PM |
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The point that we need to remember about politicians is, they are talk. Nobody seems to be willing to let his group gather the info on how Biden is hurting him, and then invoice Biden for damages based on the harm done. Following standard UCC law regarding how to invoice, and when to take it to court for someone not paying the invoice, a person could easily win their case if they do it unrepresented. Biden would never show up. It would be a default, summary judgment. If the part of the suit for damages is high enough, because of your mental anguish, or simply because your loss is great enough, and since it would be difficult getting the local sheriff to arrest Biden until he pays, sell your judgment to a company that buys judgments for 10% of the face value. Get your money. Or, you might place your judgment paperwork with media outlets, and reduce his popularity until the people out him. This could be done with any politicians. Regarding that the Biden regime is hiring some 78,000 new IRS agents right now, and that many of these are being trained in the use of high-powered assault rifles to use on the people, ANYBODY could invoice and law suit a bunch of politicians for their role in making this illegal, standing army in times of peace... no formal Congressional Act of War has been proclaimed. There are plenty of law groups around the country who could do this and win... IF they stood in court, man-to-man, without representation, thereby not allowing the other side to have representation.
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August 15, 2022, 08:03:23 PM |
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The point that we need to remember about politicians is, they are talk. Nobody seems to be willing to let his group gather the info on how Biden is hurting him, and then invoice Biden for damages based on the harm done. Following standard UCC law regarding how to invoice, and when to take it to court for someone not paying the invoice, a person could easily win their case if they do it unrepresented. Biden would never show up. It would be a default, summary judgment. If the part of the suit for damages is high enough, because of your mental anguish, or simply because your loss is great enough, and since it would be difficult getting the local sheriff to arrest Biden until he pays, sell your judgment to a company that buys judgments for 10% of the face value. Get your money. Or, you might place your judgment paperwork with media outlets, and reduce his popularity until the people out him. This could be done with any politicians. Regarding that the Biden regime is hiring some 78,000 new IRS agents right now, and that many of these are being trained in the use of high-powered assault rifles to use on the people, ANYBODY could invoice and law suit a bunch of politicians for their role in making this illegal, standing army in times of peace... no formal Congressional Act of War has been proclaimed. There are plenty of law groups around the country who could do this and win... IF they stood in court, man-to-man, without representation, thereby not allowing the other side to have representation. So....what are you waiting for? Send him an invoice and let us know how it goes.
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August 15, 2022, 09:44:41 PM |
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Trump for prison.That's what I say. Give him back the Presidency, one of the most problem-some prisons around.
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August 20, 2022, 01:58:39 PM |
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Not sure.
Seems the date is closer.
I'm curious if we'll see it before mid-terms of not. If he spends at least 1 night in jail, that qualifies.
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August 25, 2022, 08:23:28 PM |
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He committed a lot of crimes, including state crimes.
How long do you believe until he'll go to prison?
Would you please list the crimes and the references for them?
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August 26, 2022, 04:17:52 AM |
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There is not a single president in this world who is clean, everyone has their own sins. So when the government wants to imprison Trump because of his sin it doesn't make sense, even though he did a lot of controversy but still he is a former President and has done his duty as President in defending America's economy and constitution. And do you think that Bush or Biden is clean compared to Trump?
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August 26, 2022, 04:31:46 AM |
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There is not a single president in this world who is clean, everyone has their own sins. So when the government wants to imprison Trump because of his sin it doesn't make sense, even though he did a lot of controversy but still he is a former President and has done his duty as President in defending America's economy and constitution. And do you think that Bush or Biden is clean compared to Trump?
He stole a ton of classified documents and then refused to give them back. He organized a violent insurrection to try and stay in power after losing the election. He scammed his supporters for 10s of millions of dollars raising money for a foundation that didn't exist to stop the steal of an election he knew wasn't stolen. He makes Richard Nixon look like a choir boy if you must compare him to other presidents lol
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August 26, 2022, 11:15:37 AM |
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I'd say never. So far there hasn't been any evidance or accusation that would really come close. Maybe he did do something that could get him sent to prison, but we need to remember that not the same rules apply to him as they do to us. Far smaller offences would lend us, regular people in prison, but as for him, his so powerfull, hed probably get away with murder.
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August 26, 2022, 02:19:06 PM |
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I'd say never. So far there hasn't been any evidance or accusation that would really come close. Maybe he did do something that could get him sent to prison, but we need to remember that not the same rules apply to him as they do to us. Far smaller offences would lend us, regular people in prison, but as for him, his so powerfull, hed probably get away with murder.
So far, so good. I believe that Trump has been the most divisive president the US has ever had, but he was also feared for keeping his word. He doesn't fear anybody, and based on his economic success, I don't believe he deserves to go to jail. He doesn't deserve all that, even if I myself don't like him much because of his excessive talking and arrogant attitude toward others who disagree with his opinions. A few days ago, when the FBI entered his premises, I knew it was political propaganda they were doing against that man.
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August 26, 2022, 02:37:05 PM |
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Assuming he's charged within the next few months and it doesn't go to trial, I expect it to be 3-4+ years from now.
A more likely scenario is he refuses any plea bargain and spends the rest of his life successfully finding ways to delay the trial/sentencing.
...which is a sad way to live the last years of your life if you ask me. The thoughts of all this is probably eating him up.
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August 27, 2022, 03:52:22 AM |
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There is not a single president in this world who is clean, everyone has their own sins. So when the government wants to imprison Trump because of his sin it doesn't make sense, even though he did a lot of controversy but still he is a former President and has done his duty as President in defending America's economy and constitution. And do you think that Bush or Biden is clean compared to Trump?
He stole a ton of classified documents and then refused to give them back. He organized a violent insurrection to try and stay in power after losing the election. He scammed his supporters for 10s of millions of dollars raising money for a foundation that didn't exist to stop the steal of an election he knew wasn't stolen. He makes Richard Nixon look like a choir boy if you must compare him to other presidents lol And because of that he went to jail? how about Bush who killed millions of Iraqis? why hasn't he been tried? After all, every President has his own sins, don't think Trump is worse than other Presidents, they are all the same. If you want Trump to go to jail, then all American Presidents should go to jail too.
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August 27, 2022, 05:54:13 AM |
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There is not a single president in this world who is clean, everyone has their own sins. So when the government wants to imprison Trump because of his sin it doesn't make sense, even though he did a lot of controversy but still he is a former President and has done his duty as President in defending America's economy and constitution. And do you think that Bush or Biden is clean compared to Trump?
He stole a ton of classified documents and then refused to give them back. He organized a violent insurrection to try and stay in power after losing the election. He scammed his supporters for 10s of millions of dollars raising money for a foundation that didn't exist to stop the steal of an election he knew wasn't stolen. He makes Richard Nixon look like a choir boy if you must compare him to other presidents lol And because of that he went to jail? how about Bush who killed millions of Iraqis? why hasn't he been tried? After all, every President has his own sins, don't think Trump is worse than other Presidents, they are all the same. If you want Trump to go to jail, then all American Presidents should go to jail too. No, they aren't all the same. Each one is actually different. Some are worse than others, some are actually not bad at all. It's a fair argument to make that Bush should be tried for war crimes. But, that has nothing to do with Trumps domestic crimes. He literally tried to overthrow the government. He stole classified documents putting American assets at risk, kept them in an unsecured basement and various other places at his country club, refused to give them back for months until finally giving some back and lying about not having any more. Even if you were right about all Presidents committing equal crimes (you're obviously not) - are you saying that's a good thing and how it should be?
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