Account stolen, please give negative feedback

[aRTyMK4]

Hi, my account msarro is under control of unknown person for the last few months, but I didn't notice until recently.
I bought this account in 2019 so I don't have any hope that you would return it to me, because I'm not original owner. But I want that it gets red trust because current owner cannot be trusted.

Here is staked bitcoin address from 2019: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=996318.msg51727724#msg51727724

And here is signed message from the same address proving that account msarro really is mine. Date in message is one week old because I tried asking current owner to return account to me: link

[1714755784]

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1714755784

[Charles-Tim]

It is not about the message you signed with staked address that mostly matters, it is the message you will sign now with the staked address that matters most which will include recent date and your Bitcointalk username, or if you have joined a campaign before or used the address elsewhere on this forum and you can sign it with the current data and your Bitcointalk username.

But, your case is now different, what claims that the bought account is not a stolen account? It could be a stolen account, but your information is helpful. If the person operating the account now is not able to sign any staked address, the account should be given negative trust or be banned completely from access Bitcointalk forum, but we should wait for the account user to provide a newly signed message from an address he has staked before to know if the person with the account now is not the true owner.

This is why account sales should be completely discouraged.

[Bitcoin_Arena]

1. You should sign a message from the staked address right now to prove that either one of you was in control of the account at that time.

2. Do you have any additional proof that to show that he sold the account to you? Chat screenshots, Transaction ID etc?
What if you just hacked it and the owner did sell it to you?

3. Since the account was not originally yours? This means you have no right to claim it. However, if indeed the current owner sold it to you, then it means that the person behind that account should not be trusted too.

However, I am waiting for more evidence of the sale before I can act.

[aRTyMK4]

I thought it was obvious enough from that signed message, but okay, here is new message with today's date and words from Charles-Tim: signed message

I'm 100% sure the new owner cannot sign message from any older address, but you can give him the chance, of course.

I bought it long time ago, I don't remember from who but I'm pretty sure it's not the seller who is operating the account now. It's someone else.

I'm not trying to claim it back, I'm just angry that someone stole it from me and I payed for it. So I want that you red-trust or ban this account because it has new owner so it's untrusted.

[acroman08]

I am not sure whether to believe this or not or is OverEasy is you alt?. I checked the signed BTC address provided by the OP on "Stake your Bitcoin address here" and saw this(quoted below).

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
This address belongs to OverEasy from bitcointalk. Today is August 19, 2019.
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
13Zeq6RBCpkmXDZc1MVwP1KxY8bqiYFNN1
Hz6SN2TdNMqzK2Tf6KOe9wyr/2BntFUc2Qz74+ZWgJaeHTsIbldPim78rwdyDMp6TFhMYDp2t8qNlVQD2if3LuQ=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

I found out that other people had access to this address so I generated a new wallet. I still have access to old wallet though:

Code:

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Today is September 10, 2019. I am OverEasy and I still have access to this address which I posted on bitcointalk on August 19, 2019. From now on this address is not valid as form of my identification. Now I use address 144QQPmPGrEZUj41pc2RCWga5oAGJiu76g
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
13Zeq6RBCpkmXDZc1MVwP1KxY8bqiYFNN1
Hw4o37sqvkYHNv1sQrw1qJDXXTga47ekFZtLfmQDZEgAQ0b1qRgKSbDVe8v4OYhjQfCf5tmfH6QZ2A3bdsessfM=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

New wallet is:

Code:

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
This address belongs to OverEasy from bitcointalk. Today is September 10, 2019.
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
144QQPmPGrEZUj41pc2RCWga5oAGJiu76g
IKGVaoRYgh1iN3wea1O2a8cejGyBfvZfeL9fz6Su6nUdRwuCmDwMiZ6nTQ3T4V5BcuPnbUjQB5u/FXWVSfObNWA=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

I'm not trying to claim it back, I'm just angry that someone stole it from me and I payed for it. So I want that you red-trust or ban this account because it has new owner so it's untrusted.

what do you mean when you said paid for it? did you buy it?

[suchmoon]

what do you mean when you said paid for it? did you buy it?

Well, yeah, that's what he said:

I bought it long time ago

Of course it's possible that the OP sold the account and now is trying to stiff the buyer. If I could be bothered to verify the signed messages I would probably red trust all involved accounts (aRTyMK4/msarro/OverEasy). Account trading is cancer.

[hosseinimr93]

Of course it's possible that the OP sold the account and now is trying to stiff the buyer...............

That's probably the case.

aRTyMK4 offered to sell 8 accounts on September 21, 2019. Click here to see the reference. (Archived)
The account below seems to be msarro.

Hero
registered in 2013
bitcoin address staked in Q3 2019
(Listed on SMAS list but it has neutral trust so you can still join most signature campaigns.)
$240

1. It's a hero account and was registered in 2013. [Ref.]
2. The bitcoin address was staked in Q3 3019. [Ref.]
3. It's in Lauda's SMAS list. [Ref.]

Since aRTyMK4 has control over the private key of an address posted by msarro, the accounts in question had a same owner some time and both of them deserve negative trust for trading accounts.

[aRTyMK4]

Why all the drama? Just give it negative feedback please.

And for the record, I didn't sell msarro. I don't know who has it. Yes, I am account trader but I'm out of this business for a year. Whenever I sold an account I was honest and fair. Sadly most people in this business are not which is why I stopped doing it.

[dkbit98]

So eager to get someone negative trust feedback :/
Why don't you first post all accounts you control with proofs since you are so honest and fair like you say.

[lovesmayfamilis]

Yes, I am account trader but I'm out of this business for a year. Whenever I sold an account I was honest and fair.

Apparently, this person cannot be changed. He thinks he's right. He sold his accounts in "honest" ways and now he sincerely asks to punish the offender. "People, why don't you believe me? I'm asking, please!"
OP, if you are satisfied with 4 red feedback on your account, then I will help you.

[Charles-Tim]

So eager to get someone negative trust feedback :/
Why don't you first post all accounts you control with proofs since you are so honest and fair like you say.

I have tried to even sign the address provided by the OP with the message he signed yesterday, not only that the account could not be verified but the address is said to not be valid. That is a mistake from someone having multiple accounts.

Yes, I am account trader...

Account traders can not be trusted. So, you are not trusted.

[aRTyMK4]

So eager to get someone negative trust feedback :/
Why don't you first post all accounts you control with proofs since you are so honest and fair like you say.

I have tried to even sign the address provided by the OP with the message he signed yesterday, not only that the account could not be verified but the address is said to not be valid. That is a mistake from someone having multiple accounts.

Yes, I am account trader...

Account traders can not be trusted. So, you are not trusted.

Are you a complete rookie or what? I gave you a link so you can simply verify the signed message and you still claim that address is not valid.
Try verifying with Electrum wallet if you don't trust Brainwallet website which shows that my message is signed from address 13Zeq6RBCpkmXDZc1MVwP1KxY8bqiYFNN1

I really don't care what you think of me as an account seller. And I don't need your trust. What I want is to protect other users from this guy who is currently using account msarro. He stole account from me (hacked?) so he is not to be trusted and he needs red trust from DT members.
Good bye

[Lucius]

What I want is to protect other users from this guy who is currently using account msarro. He stole account from me (hacked?) so he is not to be trusted and he needs red trust from DT members.
Good bye

You have to understand that most members who mean something on this forum have the same view when it comes to selling BTT accounts, so while you may want to protect the community from someone who hacked one of your accounts, it's not realistic to expect any positive reaction. If you were not selling or buying a BTT accounts, then situations like this would not have happened - and you are also careless and allow someone to hack you, but on the other hand you also leave the suspicion that you sold the account and that the buyer cheated on you.

In the end, you get more red trust - and the account in question only one neutral (for now).

[Mistafreeze]

Hi, my account msarro is under control of unknown person for the last few months, but I didn't notice until recently.
I bought this account in 2019 so I don't have any hope that you would return it to me, because I'm not original owner. But I want that it gets red trust because current owner cannot be trusted.

Here is staked bitcoin address from 2019: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=996318.msg51727724#msg51727724

And here is signed message from the same address proving that account msarro really is mine. Date in message is one week old because I tried asking current owner to return account to me: link

You should prove that account is stolen and you owened it. In your signature you accepted you buy/sell accounts, possibility is some of your buyer refused to pay you and now you want to teach him a lesson.

[Bitcoin_Arena]

Maybe the current owner of the account should also come out and prove he is the original owner of the account. If someone knew they didn't dosomething wrong. Then they would ultimately come out and clear the air but going silent doesn't help.

Basing on previous posting patterns, the original owner stopped posting on December 26, 2015 and he liked discussing mostly about service like Hashnet

1 Year later, the account comes back online and the first thing they do is apply for  different signature campaigns




There are earlier addresses connected to the original owner. One of the addresses was used in the transaction sent to the address quoted in one of the posts

How many confirmations are needed before a sale goes through?
I ordered 19 shares about 30 minutes ago, and have 3 confirmations on payment.

https://blockchain.info/address/1G45PWT34C7F6PVev81mG4ctDxtxYZDpBT

Edit: Just got an email that the sale was completed, but I haven't recieved the shares. Assuming this is done manually?

Edit 2: Got an email from seller, my shares were sent. Thanks again!

The previous owner used a wallet containing these addresses to receive payments from hashnet.com. It would be good if the current @msarro would sign a message from any of the addresses. This would be solid proof that he's the original owner of the account in question

https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/00a7a658566d9c38/addresses

17V2AAzEzoZPcJqzbZi9UWWFuHfL2KTzgj   
1LWynGFTRHNnHXX86hJNGpzaKtxeS8HhQR   
18GRnsrwvuZ7qyt8YzdVJzUF7ZRRUArZD
1McB7Qw1PoJoMFqBzEN1KjCFZBNBpWSJ9w   
1KJz85Ep9hbftdDtPeuXph336goz9ys7Vv   
16Lx7QvCB1FaeiTjJDkd1YuvgFNCporeSr   
1GmAGFdqh1oPWqrsB3D6B9xrQn5cnrrmcw   
1Ks12rf7Wa3RLFoQ7ckQer4HVKK9VAUzRh   
1CoKgXNpTxvfgr7Zv68EMt3GETnt2Fioad   
1JDNhUkRuGK1JVeJnm4v2xpmRV6D8LDiD1   
14bFEyZHdemVh5oXTWsDC36BSa5wMhNoUM   
19QoBtD5wdEoKs8rVHBt1DZExDPX96wpF5   
16aGZGTTiZxD15pSz6b9NioZboAej3iNMS   
14NEp7LdpgZDxDXr4AZbNMo6HXARWeA6VX   
14ygS4US443vN3gi7zhNf3VJNczAaaDgDB   
15n7cq26M2JASVTSvARoGodUuAp7BtebvZ   
1JHeScFL4d3r8kJkaEq4bJsR8LgaE9N2Hi   
1JN3m15JgmXcEg8uDaRov514KYbgpCCWwo   
1Ln1STjVd6DNrxqnrdWvmcUhfWUnxDG9t5   
1388676obRrAoe4uKsHYbDFjjeLq8sxEp6   
17CHdXP4QAbG6MsPrGqRoZEYpW21W6iYZV   
13xwqDnkH9ckh13mRbeRw9piMhyoi1QkLj   
1EqeCsUAKDryHunc7Qn4zTgaAqTUEYAe5R   
17dQQcaerqLfNyyrrFPDf8zL623EVenz1W   
1NJB7kdQFAAEy9pAgEPCDWztJBby2guSyw   
1NqD9sNTuntG4iz3eqRBEEg4Xsfy2anoKN   
17Qr9D7QE96AZ5J8qcGGoe8YUUMCfmu2He   
1NNQEhSSAmbeujDbzYmv7LmXnnuSHuykE3   
1CXjWPMrBEsqzFtxRJ1be1iNcSdvtZzbFr   
1Kg2aUWFy4DohgyTp5hscxHodEpJCr1cG4   
1P1bJeY7WmqU49zSm8XNnWbjXvzUYGDgkh   
15BUCuVSMnXNKyu9ZZJBo14X3Lxub2HyEA   
1686k6zL1QH81LUp3h4zPjVfah9nJFSdrE   
1ERAznwS2QWN5CXcoiXxFEgKdVvGTfZ3oV   
1EmbQupBujgHGDZ3YxRu3WKJxCyPCptVm3   
1K4eGv4sQ5SzaXVq1c2F9qdiY53ugNReB6   0.
1HAvDWp4i8KQGP9puqDUY8dbrAjmPqK6ax   

[The Cryptovator]

The signed message has been verified. This means the account has been sold or stolen. Somehow account ownership has been changed, so based on this I feel it's appropriate to add negative feedback to msarro. When I saw the post first I visit the OP profile, because on first look I assumed there is something wrong. And eventually discover I have left negative feedback to OP a long time ago due to account sales. Based on my opinion, OP is trying to get a few extra money from msarro if he sold it. I don't believe someone would able to hack an account from the account farmer. If so, then OP should make this thread a long time ago.

Anyway, the account in question has been tagged. Let's wait for his response.