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February 01, 2021, 03:50:03 PM
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But I was wondering if there is anything else you could use except luck?

Is there any specific strategy that someo uses making you more likely to win ?


I think there can't be any strategies to win dice, it's just basic probability, you can't predict it and you can't make any assumptions basing on the past. Think of it as if you really are holding dice in your hand. Say you really want to get "6", but you keep getting "1", "2", "3", etc. Does that mean that with every unlucky throw you're getting closer to get the desired number? Intuitively it seems so, but not according to the probability laws. Judging from a mathematical point of view, in an infinite set of throws - any outcome is possible, even getting 100, or 1000 or even more unlucky bets IN A ROW. Yes, that's very rare, but something like 10-16 losses in a row is pretty common, and the more you play - the more you encounter it.

Naturally, eventually, the "6" will show up, but when? And that's exactly the critical point here because it defines how much money do you need to have in your reserve to eventually have your losses compensated. And see, all those strategies: Martingale, Paroli, etc. they are only aimed to cut your losses to a minimum, help you play safely. And they actually work, for some time! But then, 2 major problems arise. First, if you play safely (e.g. decrease your bet with every win) - you'll never win much, I don't know for how long you have to play to make the actual money out of it, and this leads us to the second problem: if you play long enough, no matter how hard you try, eventually, you'll reach the point where these strategies can't work anymore, like having too many losses in a row in Martingale (you'll lose everything) or too many wins in a row with D’Alembert Strategy (your bet will reach the minimal point where you can't decrease it anymore+the wins will become unprofitable). So, basically, to win big with these strategies you as well need luck Grin And bearing this in mind, what's the point in them in the first place?  Smiley

So, to conclude, if you value your time and money: don't waste it on such things, it can be all very disappointing in the end.

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February 01, 2021, 04:17:05 PM
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All of your examples were still based on luck there is losing and winning, all the same, they are just playing it cautiously or there is a pattern in their playing style but even though they had a strict pattern there is not an assumption that they always win, You can not get the algorithm of dice and control the outcome of what number to be a place, and certainly if many players would cheat code these kinds of gambling game how about the people behind it that dice gambling site would definitely close.
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February 01, 2021, 05:07:26 PM
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Any working strategy you can use. But it will not work for long. At the end you will lose and house will win. So I will say the main strategy is when you win something good then skip to play. Withdraw your fund and Deposit again and start your playing with cool head and fresh mind.

So not to be greedy is the most effective strategy IMO. If you win a big then it actually luck.

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February 01, 2021, 05:12:24 PM
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I heard a story about a person who did sell all his property , his fortune , went to a casino and put it all on number 8 , then he walked out with double .
This is simply confirmation bias. No one is running to the media telling the story of how they bet their life savings on one roll and lost, and no media outlet is interested in publishing those stories even if they were, so you don't read about them. You only read about the winners.

Someone wins the lottery every week and gets their photo taken for the news. You never heard about the 10 million people who lose it every week.

I honestly do believe in luck and also the worst of it, some people are extremely lucky and there are many examples for that.
It makes no difference with a provably fair casino game. Whether you have just won 20 rolls in a row or whether you have just lost 20 rolls in a row, the next roll has the exact same odds of being a winner or a loser. The only thing that changes it that people on a streak tend to increase their bet size to either "win big" or "chase their loses", and that inevitably ends badly.
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February 01, 2021, 05:29:06 PM
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The only strategy that I did before is martingale but it's been a long time and found it not effective on me. Truly, dice games are luck-based games and I can't find a way that you can beat it unless you have moments of winnings.

For me, its hard to find a winning strategy on Dice game because the nature of its system, even if we try many strategies, it is still not proven and its hard to tell if you are really winning or just losing big money in long term.

Well, you can find winning strategies in moments but it won't last long. You just can't beat them even if you discoveries a lot of strategies.

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February 01, 2021, 05:47:04 PM
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Any working strategy you can use. But it will not work for long. At the end you will lose and house will win. So I will say the main strategy is when you win something good then skip to play. Withdraw your fund and Deposit again and start your playing with cool head and fresh mind.

So not to be greedy is the most effective strategy IMO. If you win a big then it actually luck.
This is the truth about gambling, particularly on dice we should not expect profit. Just spend as if you are spending it on something else to have fun. Even when we give importance as fun, we'll get good winning and this win leads to drastic loss. This will cause people to spend beyond what's been allocated for gambling as fun. Greed needs to be kept away and should have control on when to stop and withdraw the funds.

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February 01, 2021, 05:47:56 PM
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It is impossible to win bets with dice consistently even if we apply a strategy. Strategy will only increase the odds but will not last longer as this game depend on luck. I have used different strategies on the dice, won several bets but ended up losing because once the stake was increased the strategy was no longer useful. Only luck will make the dice player win a lot of bets. The point is the casino is still the winner in the long term.
Luck based games really allow gamblers to be greedy. Underestimating the risk of defeat depends only on the hope of victory. This has brought many gamblers to the brink of defeat.

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February 01, 2021, 05:51:30 PM
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I have tried numerous strategies on dice. In the end, my wallet is drained. Was it worth it? Yes! Dice is made for fun and part of that fun is experimenting and using different strategies, not just the ones which are very popular and mainstream. Creating and then executing a strategy is fun. One is going to make your funds last longer than the other, although in the end your funds will really be fully consumed. But it's all about the fun. Don't think of creating money by playing dice.

Don't try to think that you could beat the design. That's basically countering logic. Well, it's possible for five loaves and two fish to sufficiently feed 5,000 people but that's called miracle. Wink

Sell I do think that with dice Rollin the fun is short lived Cry if you have luck as me . Plus I do think that the two strategies I listed up might work. I am pretty sure about the first one. This is basic log and as simple as that I do believe it can be beneficial for us to try something like this.  

I do think Martingale is effective but it needs luck ofc.

The only strategy that I did before is martingale but it's been a long time and found it not effective on me. Truly, dice games are luck-based games and I can't find a way that you can beat it unless you have moments of winnings.

For me, its hard to find a winning strategy on Dice game because the nature of its system, even if we try many strategies, it is still not proven and its hard to tell if you are really winning or just losing big money in long term.

Well, you can find winning strategies in moments but it won't last long. You just can't beat them even if you discoveries a lot of strategies.

I do think we just need to find the right one , that's why I made this post honestly. Other than that maybe you can double book on the site , maybe go with your family ? Friends ? Then it would be like in the worst case scenario you won't lose.

At the same time I have tried dice duel game on Duelbits and it's good because there you can literally bet on as low as 0.9$ and that's good , if you are out of funds. But for me it was 1:1 situation so I lost nothing and didn't win anything too.

They also have codes which gives you free duels and therefore if you want to try you can. Their instagram have a lot of them !

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Lot of responses honestly I would like to reply to all but seems impossible ×_×

Thank you for engaging in the conversation tho.

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February 01, 2021, 10:01:00 PM
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The Paroli Strategy/Technique is pretty much like Dollar Cost Averaging in the investment industry. You add more money for every gain, and sell/decrease your bets when you lose, tempering your bets is also a nice touch as most people on a winning streak is easily carried away and swoon by luck, so they will inevitably spend more money and is at a greater risk of losing significantly
It is impossible to win bets with dice consistently even if we apply a strategy. Strategy will only increase the odds but will not last longer as this game depend on luck. I have used different strategies on the dice, won several bets but ended up losing because once the stake was increased the strategy was no longer useful. Only luck will make the dice player win a lot of bets. The point is the casino is still the winner in the long term.
Luck based games really allow gamblers to be greedy. Underestimating the risk of defeat depends only on the hope of victory. This has brought many gamblers to the brink of defeat.
Luck-based games give this sense of security because everyone is as lucky as you are anyway, but this is what I disagree on, people are more lucky if they can control themselves.

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February 01, 2021, 10:42:11 PM
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Nope.

You simply can't gain an advantage at dice because each roll is an independent event from the next - which means that you cannot possibly derive a strategy that would lift your RTP let alone get it over 100% in the long run.

The only way that you're going to lose less on dice is if you were able to join a cashback scheme that gave you a percentage back of every bet you make. Note though that you lose less, you don't win more.
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February 01, 2021, 11:04:34 PM
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Nope.

You simply can't gain an advantage at dice because each roll is an independent event from the next - which means that you cannot possibly derive a strategy that would lift your RTP let alone get it over 100% in the long run.

The only way that you're going to lose less on dice is if you were able to join a cashback scheme that gave you a percentage back of every bet you make. Note though that you lose less, you don't win more.
There are exceptions, which means the high rollers. I've come across high rollers that take advantage of the dice with ease. The wagered volume seems to be very high and for a single roll they go for one Bitcoin. Gets the same doubled or lost, most of the time these people roll it and wins. Here they never look for strategy or anything, just an on the go roll with a high bet value which is the difference.
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February 01, 2021, 11:11:01 PM
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Any working strategy you can use. But it will not work for long. At the end you will lose and house will win. So I will say the main strategy is when you win something good then skip to play. Withdraw your fund and Deposit again and start your playing with cool head and fresh mind.

So not to be greedy is the most effective strategy IMO. If you win a big then it actually luck.

For me, the best strategy is to play just for fun - I am guaranteed to get the result since I don’t worry about winning at all. If there is a jackpot or something like that, I will of course take all the money, and if I ever play again then only for the same scanty insignificant amounts of money.

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February 01, 2021, 11:57:08 PM
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Let's not make this too detailed. No strategy to win a dice game.

There is no way we can beat the house. What posted on the first post is betting methods.

For me, the best strategy is to play just for fun - I am guaranteed to get the result since I don’t worry about winning at all. If there is a jackpot or something like that, I will of course take all the money, and if I ever play again then only for the same scanty insignificant amounts of money.

While playing for fun, you don't recognize that the total sum you have lost is already a big amount.

Don't play for fun. Having a purpose of that while doing gambling is just throwing away money.

What we need to do is, only play the amount we afford to lose and be responsible enough when to stop.

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I have tried numerous strategies on dice. In the end, my wallet is drained. Was it worth it? Yes! Dice is made for fun and part of that fun is experimenting and using different strategies, not just the ones which are very popular and mainstream. Creating and then executing a strategy is fun. One is going to make your funds last longer than the other, although in the end your funds will really be fully consumed. But it's all about the fun. Don't think of creating money by playing dice.

Don't try to think that you could beat the design. That's basically countering logic. Well, it's possible for five loaves and two fish to sufficiently feed 5,000 people but that's called miracle. Wink

Sell I do think that with dice Rollin the fun is short lived Cry if you have luck as me . Plus I do think that the two strategies I listed up might work. I am pretty sure about the first one. This is basic log and as simple as that I do believe it can be beneficial for us to try something like this.  

I do think Martingale is effective but it needs luck ofc.

You are again way out of logic. If your premise is that Martingale is effective as a gambling strategy then you wouldn't have to say it needs luck. If it needs luck to be effective, then it is not effective at all.

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Nope.

You simply can't gain an advantage at dice because each roll is an independent event from the next - which means that you cannot possibly derive a strategy that would lift your RTP let alone get it over 100% in the long run.

The only way that you're going to lose less on dice is if you were able to join a cashback scheme that gave you a percentage back of every bet you make. Note though that you lose less, you don't win more.
There are exceptions, which means the high rollers. I've come across high rollers that take advantage of the dice with ease. The wagered volume seems to be very high and for a single roll they go for one Bitcoin. Gets the same doubled or lost, most of the time these people roll it and wins. Here they never look for strategy or anything, just an on the go roll with a high bet value which is the difference.

Whales  do have their own way of playing, unlike with small gamblers this whales are  capable of taking advanatages of both luck and the patterns that they are using to win over the house.

Might got the advantage as bankroll is more deeper than an ordianry gamblers, they have capabilities extend their stay if they are capable
in doing so, though the chances of losing is also at risk but when luck permit them to win it will affect the entire bankrol of the house.

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February 02, 2021, 01:37:10 AM
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Nope.

You simply can't gain an advantage at dice because each roll is an independent event from the next - which means that you cannot possibly derive a strategy that would lift your RTP let alone get it over 100% in the long run.

The only way that you're going to lose less on dice is if you were able to join a cashback scheme that gave you a percentage back of every bet you make. Note though that you lose less, you don't win more.
There are exceptions, which means the high rollers. I've come across high rollers that take advantage of the dice with ease. The wagered volume seems to be very high and for a single roll they go for one Bitcoin. Gets the same doubled or lost, most of the time these people roll it and wins. Here they never look for strategy or anything, just an on the go roll with a high bet value which is the difference.
I don't think you can just say that they roll it "most of the time and win". Chances are always equal, 50/50, and while one person can win 1 BTC, another person can lose 1 BTC all the same. A high-value bet does indeed return a profit, but it can also result in a huge loss, all the same. If we were to look at the overall, there are more likely to be a lot more people that bet smaller amounts compared to bigger amounts, so that would just equate to almost the casino closing in at an equal profit loss, and thats not even considering the house edge that they have.

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February 02, 2021, 02:02:18 AM
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Dice is the first game I played in an online casino. For how many years that I became addicted playing it, I can say that there's no certain strategy to increase your chances to win unlike on other games like sports betting. In dice you dont need to have a skills because whatever strategy you use your chances to win depends on how lucky you are.

The only thing that makes me stay on the game is the fun and excitement. Thus its better to have less expectation to not get hurt if ever you lose.

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February 02, 2021, 03:22:56 AM
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While playing for fun, you don't recognize that the total sum you have lost is already a big amount.

Don't play for fun. Having a purpose of that while doing gambling is just throwing away money.

What we need to do is, only play the amount we afford to lose and be responsible enough when to stop.

As long as he can know when to stop gambling and always manage his money, I am sure he will not lose too much money. He will have a chance to calculate or know that it is enough to gambling for that day, and he must stop playing the next rounds. He will not have to feel difficult to stop anytime he wants because he doesn't have any purposes in playing gambling. Always responsible while we playing gambling and always manage our emotion will help us to control ourselves.
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February 02, 2021, 06:27:18 AM
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I appreciate your explanation webtricks.

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I do think Martingale is effective but it needs luck ofc.

You are again way out of logic. If your premise is that Martingale is effective as a gambling strategy then you wouldn't have to say it needs luck. If it needs luck to be effective, then it is not effective at all.

Well, for argument's sake, Martingale is effective if and only if you have a bottomless pocket or an infinite amount of funds. But since that condition is impossible then Martingale is therefore not effective.

In general, both Martingale and D’Alembert are not effective. If you think otherwise then put your money to it and good luck.
I couldn't help but laugh at the "effective but needs luck". In other words, it will work if you have enough money to win one game to cover all your previous losses with some profits. You are done if you ran out of money before hitting that big win.

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its not always a happy ending when you gamble but you can always stop when you are winning. the strategies we use today sometimes work, mostly in the beginning and then after some time you experience the losing streak combined with your emotions, and then pfftt. its true what they say the favour is always on the house but hey cheer up you are entertained at some point.

most of the time is martingale that works for me and after few bets experience the losing streak again. i have thought of discipline that to stop myself when i'm wining but yeah sure.  









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