KingTin
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September 06, 2023, 09:21:11 AM |
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Any updates on the new version of the Apollo?
Not yet, had to do a lot of board level redesigns on prototypes but making progress towards production version Any update on the new miner?  |
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philipma1957
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November 29, 2023, 09:06:07 PM |
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nice looking pieces of equipment. |
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crypto_curious
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December 08, 2023, 07:16:15 PM |
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jstefanop, what is exact efficiency of the new miner?
Apollo gen1 is, as seen in my unit:
1962 GH/s @ 121 W (eco mode) = 16.21 GH/s per Watt
2438 GH/s @ 155 W (balanced mode) = 15.73 GH/s per Watt
Before I make the purchase, I need to know if efficiency is any better? What are the numbers? Website is not clear about this. Thanks!
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kano
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December 09, 2023, 02:19:44 AM |
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Sorry, gotta ask this, how can you pre-order a miner (months in advance) for $2000 and not even say what the hash rate is? Is it that bad? |
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heslo
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December 09, 2023, 03:41:24 AM |
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Sorry, gotta ask this, how can you pre-order a miner (months in advance) for $2000 and not even say what the hash rate is? Is it that bad? Listed on the product page... *+/- 10% Power ratings are at the board level. Eco mode is tuned for ~ 6TH/s performance, and Turbo for ~9TH/s. 10-11 TH/s is achievable with custom settings but with much higher noise levels and thermal stress on the system. Noise levels in turbo mode are higher than Gen 1 Apollo BTC. |
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crypto_curious
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December 09, 2023, 11:25:31 AM |
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jstefanop, what is exact efficiency of the new miner?
Apollo gen1 is, as seen in my unit:
1962 GH/s @ 121 W (eco mode) = 16.21 GH/s per Watt
2438 GH/s @ 155 W (balanced mode) = 15.73 GH/s per Watt
Before I make the purchase, I need to know if efficiency is any better? What are the numbers? Website is not clear about this. Thanks!
I just wrote them an e-mail, probably will get answer quicker that way. But upon further inspection of the website, I found this screenshot on product page: direct link to image This shows: 2970 GH/s @ 202W = 14.70 GH/s per Watt 14.70 GH/s per Watt? That's even worse efficiency than Apollo gen 1 miner. This looks like a mistake, Apollo 1 turbo mode screenshot instead, not a new miner, which claims double the efficiency (in one of the other screenshots). |
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jeyzeus
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December 09, 2023, 04:12:05 PM |
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jstefanop, what is exact efficiency of the new miner?
Apollo gen1 is, as seen in my unit:
1962 GH/s @ 121 W (eco mode) = 16.21 GH/s per Watt
2438 GH/s @ 155 W (balanced mode) = 15.73 GH/s per Watt
Before I make the purchase, I need to know if efficiency is any better? What are the numbers? Website is not clear about this. Thanks!
I just wrote them an e-mail, probably will get answer quicker that way. But upon further inspection of the website, I found this screenshot on product page: direct link to imageThis shows: 2970 GH/s @ 202W = 14.70 GH/s per Watt 14.70 GH/s per Watt? That's even worse efficiency than Apollo gen 1 miner. This looks like a mistake, Apollo 1 turbo mode screenshot instead, not a new miner, which claims double the efficiency (in one of the other screenshots). the have all the information on their home page: futurebit.io the new unit runs at 28W per TH/s. ~6 TH/s @ 175W Has a 450W integrated PSU Can ramp up to a louder ~10TH/s https://i.postimg.cc/hGtP301j/image.pngIMO this thing is no joke. even the bitaxe's which use the BM1366 chips run around 24-26W/TH. The fact that you can get 6TH/s up and running plug and play is gonna be a game changer. hopefully with time we'll be able to unlock even lower efficiency levels. just wonder what SBC they went with for the full nodes this time. I ordered a standard unit & prob gonna flash the new OS to one & make a 'diy' full node. major thanks to futurebit squad for the discount for previous customers, extremely competitively priced especially for residential grade miners. |
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crypto_curious
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December 09, 2023, 09:35:08 PM |
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the have all the information on their home page: futurebit.io the new unit runs at 28W per TH/s. ~6 TH/s @ 175W Has a 450W integrated PSU Can ramp up to a louder ~10TH/s https://i.postimg.cc/hGtP301j/image.pngIMO this thing is no joke. even the bitaxe's which use the BM1366 chips run around 24-26W/TH. The fact that you can get 6TH/s up and running plug and play is gonna be a game changer. hopefully with time we'll be able to unlock even lower efficiency levels. just wonder what SBC they went with for the full nodes this time. I ordered a standard unit & prob gonna flash the new OS to one & make a 'diy' full node. major thanks to futurebit squad for the discount for previous customers, extremely competitively priced especially for residential grade miners. Yes that's correct, thank you, I've seen this screenshot eventually, that's why I said they claim double the efficiency (?). Screenshot I found on the product page needs to be fixed, that's from Gen 1 device. And support just said on e-mail: Hi the efficiency is about twice as better as the Apollo Gen 1. Eco mode is about 30 watts/TH and balanced about 35 watts/TH FutureBit Team hello@futurebit.ioSounds great! |
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ajaxtempest
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December 15, 2023, 06:39:08 AM |
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any coupon codes?
Will be very appreciative if you can share one even via PM
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crypto_curious
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December 17, 2023, 01:36:08 PM |
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Customer support said: Hi yes we sent out an existing customer coupon code for $150 to all customers. You can find this in the email you used to place previous orders. FutureBit Team hello@futurebit.ioI have not received mine at all. Despite purchasing Apollo 3x Apollo LTC, 7x Apollo BTC total.  Awaiting reply from support on e-mail since 13th December.  |
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December 17, 2023, 02:20:37 PM |
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Customer support said: Hi yes we sent out an existing customer coupon code for $150 to all customers. You can find this in the email you used to place previous orders. FutureBit Team hello@futurebit.ioI have not received mine at all. Despite purchasing Apollo 3x Apollo LTC, 7x Apollo BTC total. Awaiting reply from support on e-mail since 13th December. Got mine, though it was tagged as spam. Maybe check your spam folder. HTH |
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December 18, 2023, 01:54:52 PM |
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Customer support said: Hi yes we sent out an existing customer coupon code for $150 to all customers. You can find this in the email you used to place previous orders. FutureBit Team hello@futurebit.ioI have not received mine at all. Despite purchasing Apollo 3x Apollo LTC, 7x Apollo BTC total. Awaiting reply from support on e-mail since 13th December. OP you if you can share one via PM. The custom duties in India are 36%. Really want to buy one but with shipping and duties it almost double the price. Hope anyone can share a spare 150$ code  |
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crypto_curious
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December 19, 2023, 03:46:13 PM |
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Customer support said: Hi yes we sent out an existing customer coupon code for $150 to all customers. You can find this in the email you used to place previous orders. FutureBit Team hello@futurebit.ioI have not received mine at all. Despite purchasing Apollo 3x Apollo LTC, 7x Apollo BTC total. Awaiting reply from support on e-mail since 13th December. Got mine, though it was tagged as spam. Maybe check your spam folder. HTH I checked, nothing. It's Gmail account, spam is being deleted after 30 days I think? When did you received your code? |
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December 20, 2023, 12:01:59 PM |
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Customer support said: Hi yes we sent out an existing customer coupon code for $150 to all customers. You can find this in the email you used to place previous orders. FutureBit Team hello@futurebit.ioI have not received mine at all. Despite purchasing Apollo 3x Apollo LTC, 7x Apollo BTC total. Awaiting reply from support on e-mail since 13th December. Got mine, though it was tagged as spam. Maybe check your spam folder. HTH I checked, nothing. It's Gmail account, spam is being deleted after 30 days I think? When did you received your code? Received it on the 8th of December. I am resisting the temptation to forward you the mail via PM as I do not want to interfere with jstefanops business but I trust support will eventually answer you. |
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December 20, 2023, 09:58:43 PM |
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~snip~ Listed on the product page... *+/- 10% Power ratings are at the board level. Eco mode is tuned for ~ 6TH/s performance, and Turbo for ~9TH/s. 10-11 TH/s is achievable with custom settings but with much higher noise levels and thermal stress on the system. Noise levels in turbo mode are higher than Gen 1 Apollo BTC. Interesting. I have a Gen 1 Apollo, and the noise of it at turbo or more was incredibly loud. Probably less than an industrial miner, but it misses the point of being a home miner anyway. I did that mostly just as a test because I'm more interested in silent mining, which the Gen 1 Apollo does reasonably well. Almost noiseless mining with an added Noctua fan can give you about 1-2TH/s. It's quite OK. Now, reading that Gen 2 produces around 6TH/s in eco mode is really promising. I wonder how much louder it is in the quietest mode because that performance promises to be around 3-6 times more efficient than Gen 1 at similar quiet levels. |
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December 21, 2023, 03:21:05 PM
Last edit: December 21, 2023, 03:54:02 PM by n0nce |
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Version 2 efficiency looks insane. I consider getting a miner-only unit to test & review, however much I like my R909. That one just gets about 50W/TH compared to Apollo 2's 30-35W/TH. Although it's nice to have something that pulls <100W at the wall and is basically silent. More on this soon.. It's definitely a big improvement from Version 1's 62.5W/TH in ECO mode and 66.66W/TH in Turbo mode! Now I'm wondering which ASICs have been used here..  Must be some quite modern stuff, considering the chips need some time to 'trickle down' to the home mining space. A quick non-exhaustive list: - ~100W/TH Bitmain S9
- ~50W/TH Bitmain S17
- ~35W/TH Bitmain S19 / Whatsminer M30S+
- ~30W/TH: Canaan Avalon A1346 / Whatsminer M50 / M53 / M56
- ~25W/TH: Canaan Avalon A1366 / A1446 / Bitmain S19k Pro
- ~20W/TH: Canaan Avalon A1466 / Bitmain S19XP / Whatsminer M60 / M63 / M66 / Bitmain T21
- <20W/TH: WhatsMiner M60S / M63S / M66S / Bitmain S21
One theory would be that it uses S19 chips instead of the GekkoScience Compac F & R909's S17 chips. However FutureBit used to work with Bitfury in the past, maybe they partnered up again? |
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crypto_curious
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December 23, 2023, 01:03:40 AM |
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Customer support said: Hi yes we sent out an existing customer coupon code for $150 to all customers. You can find this in the email you used to place previous orders. FutureBit Team hello@futurebit.ioI have not received mine at all. Despite purchasing Apollo 3x Apollo LTC, 7x Apollo BTC total. Awaiting reply from support on e-mail since 13th December. Got mine, though it was tagged as spam. Maybe check your spam folder. HTH I checked, nothing. It's Gmail account, spam is being deleted after 30 days I think? When did you received your code? Received it on the 8th of December. I am resisting the temptation to forward you the mail via PM as I do not want to interfere with jstefanops business but I trust support will eventually answer you. Thanks, but yes indeed they did, and I have $150 off discount code too. |
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crypto_curious
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December 23, 2023, 01:32:20 AM |
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Version 2 efficiency looks insane. I consider getting a miner-only unit to test & review, however much I like my R909. That one just gets about 50W/TH compared to Apollo 2's 30-35W/TH. Although it's nice to have something that pulls <100W at the wall and is basically silent. More on this soon.. It's definitely a big improvement from Version 1's 62.5W/TH in ECO mode and 66.66W/TH in Turbo mode! Now I'm wondering which ASICs have been used here.. Must be some quite modern stuff, considering the chips need some time to 'trickle down' to the home mining space. A quick non-exhaustive list: - ~100W/TH Bitmain S9
- ~50W/TH Bitmain S17
- ~35W/TH Bitmain S19 / Whatsminer M30S+
- ~30W/TH: Canaan Avalon A1346 / Whatsminer M50 / M53 / M56
- ~25W/TH: Canaan Avalon A1366 / A1446 / Bitmain S19k Pro
- ~20W/TH: Canaan Avalon A1466 / Bitmain S19XP / Whatsminer M60 / M63 / M66 / Bitmain T21
- <20W/TH: WhatsMiner M60S / M63S / M66S / Bitmain S21
One theory would be that it uses S19 chips instead of the GekkoScience Compac F & R909's S17 chips. However FutureBit used to work with Bitfury in the past, maybe they partnered up again? Yes, Apollo2 efficiency looks great, and I will definitely get one, to replace the existing Apollo1 which is currently being used to heat up my garden greenhouse slightly, during cold months. I control it by a script, to automatically switch between turned off, eco, balanced modes, depending on external temperature sensor. No turbo, because I noticed 6-pin connector on Apollo got burned down slightly and is now brown due to heat.. While second connector gets nothing, probably no current going through it, only one is getting hit. Probably some problem with Apollo PCB on design level... My workaround is necessary, unfortunately, to limit max power, so eco and balanced modes only are used on that unit. And regarding efficiency. I've seen some crazy devices in my days with Bitcoin, have a look at my personal table, I've had all of these devices in my hands at one point It's an amazing achievement that we can have almost 5 TH/s device in this small form factor at such small power draw.  Can't wait for Apollo II numbers to show up here! |
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January 11, 2024, 04:14:49 PM |
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Just placed my order for Apollo, Order #8612 . Yay!
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