Covid-19, Lockdown and repercussions

[Ultegra134]

Hello from Greece,
I'd like to discuss any repercussions that stem from Covid-19 response measures (Or lockdown depending on where you are), either Economical, Psychological or anything else you can think of.

We've been in lockdown since the early days of November, only retail has been reopened and even that isn't open in every region due to a rise of cases in them. Moreover, the recent surge of cases throughout the whole country might be leading to a 3rd lockdown (like it is much different from now). Definitely, the economic repercussions are huge throughout the world, since most countries have taken extreme measures in order to suppress the pandemic. However, the combination of financial depression and quarantine, could lead to clinical depression in a respectable percentage of the population.

Seeing it from my point of view, being in home, almost 24/7, while the supermarket or to the pharmacy being the only way out is depressing and driving me nuts. We can also go out for exercise/walking. I'm living in a region that is characterized as "Red zone", everything closes at 5.30 p.m, while we cannot leave the house after 6pm. My only escape is going out cycling every once in a while.

I'd like to discuss the financial and the mental repercussions of the pandemic plus, how do you cope with the Lockdown yourself?

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[maybukaspa]

how do you cope with the Lockdown yourself?

Same thing in our country. Our movement is significantly limited. Non-essential industries are closed, and most jobs today are implemented into work-from-home programs to prevent the virus from drastically spreading. Public transportation is limited. But still, public markets and malls have tons of people, though only 21 above are allowed to go outside. Nobody is taking precautionary measures and doesn't follow social distancing. During this crisis, our lives must be taken seriously.

I usually work out, meditate, and begin learning something new. It helps me to cope with stress and sadness.

May we have good health and wealthy life. Be strong and stay safe during the pandemic.

[Lucius]

I have had the misfortune of going through a lot worse things in my life than a pandemic, so I can say without hesitation that I am dealing with this situation quite well.  Everything that has happened in the past year has its consequences, and the long-term ones will be visible in the future - from economic ones that are clearly visible and tangible - to psychological ones that will create an army of sick people whose treatment will cost every country dearly.

Although I do not consider my politicians to be particularly honest and successful, they did not introduce the most difficult measures that would include restricting the movement and closing of shops - they closed gyms and cafes/restaurants, but given the very favorable epidemiological situation they could get the green light very soon.

The whole situation with vaccines is not ideal, but the number of people who have already overcome the disease and those who will be vaccinated in combination with the arrival of spring is very likely to bring relief to all people.

[Ucy]

The town I live in doesn't seem to be under lock down but prices of things have gone up alittle  except maybe for agric products and things made locally by small & medium scale businesses. I think the presence of very competitive small businesses helps alot otherwise things probably would have been worse. When the lockdown was initially introduced, they seem to be the only few ones that successfully bypassed it to feed and serve customers.

[Ultegra134]

I have had the misfortune of going through a lot worse things in my life than a pandemic, so I can say without hesitation that I am dealing with this situation quite well.  Everything that has happened in the past year has its consequences, and the long-term ones will be visible in the future - from economic ones that are clearly visible and tangible - to psychological ones that will create an army of sick people whose treatment will cost every country dearly.

Although I do not consider my politicians to be particularly honest and successful, they did not introduce the most difficult measures that would include restricting the movement and closing of shops - they closed gyms and cafes/restaurants, but given the very favorable epidemiological situation they could get the green light very soon.

The whole situation with vaccines is not ideal, but the number of people who have already overcome the disease and those who will be vaccinated in combination with the arrival of spring is very likely to bring relief to all people.

My thoughts exactly, the results of the protective measures (Quarantine, limited mobility and so on) along with the vaccination and the rise in temperature that is coming in the following months will relieve the population and the health sector. I believe that things will do get better after March or April, however, is the same thing going to happen the next winter?

My guess would be probably not, due to the vaccination and the acquired immunity, but measures will probably be taken then too.

[20kevin20]

The way it affected me? Not so much. But studies say something very different about what happened to a not insignificant number of people!

Suicides are (or at least have been during lockdowns) on a rise, so is domestic violence. Tourism is going through a painful death, so are services like restaurants and shops. Besides retail, so besides the rich, you don't have a choice to purchase your daily needed products from besides them. In the meantime, at least in my country, prices are on the rise. Lots of close friends of mine have lost their jobs, a lot of people feel alone or isolated from their families and online school will create useless students who've been watching Netflix and playing videogames while at "school".

And remember that besides the economical repercussions done by the pandemic, we have a sh*t ton of money pumped into the economy to artificially keep it up and standing. Once this ends, I don't eevn want to imagine how sharply the markets will fall.

Personally, I'm mentally prepared for the worst. It seems to me like we're in the middle of a countdown to the big, ugly collapse we'll all feel strongly.

[aoluain]

I suppose its a matter of perspective because some people will be affected more than others.

Personally from an economic point of view I have been working as normal, to working in the office
to working on different sites and I have had more disposable income to put into Bitcoin.

The repercussions of the pandemic are enormous. Certain businesses are suffering along with a
large portion of the public both personally and economically. Fiscal stimuli are a short term relief
for many but the long term effects still lie ahead.

[Fesatmas]

I'd like to discuss the financial and the mental repercussions of the pandemic plus, how do you cope with the Lockdown yourself?

Unlike the conditions where I live, which is a pandemic, it seems like a funny atmosphere, the reason is that although there are many rules and restrictions for many people, we do not break the rules, it's just that for us we refer to some one. mental conviction and not about the existence of Covid 19. To be honest, most of the places I live do not believe in the existence of Covid 19, even though data from the government and the hospital have proven it. The fact is that those of us who don't believe make our place the safest place to be from covoid 19. Neither of us is touched. As for the impact of this rule, when we want to travel, we still respect the use of masks.

This is a matter of endurance, when we are prone to depression and always panic seeing conditions, it is clear that we will be susceptible to Covid 19. Stay calm and control our thoughts with positive things.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

The town I live in doesn't seem to be under lock down but prices of things have gone up alittle  except maybe for agric products and things made locally by small & medium scale businesses. I think the presence of very competitive small businesses helps alot otherwise things probably would have been worse. When the lockdown was initially introduced, they seem to be the only few ones that successfully bypassed it to feed and serve customers.

That's kind of the same way it is where I live, and probably even less restrictive.  Restaurants have even opened up again, so the US definitely is not in a second lockdown.  Things were looking so much grimmer around March of last year when I thought that ALL nonessential businesses would have to shut down (but most stayed open anyway).

I feel for OP in Greece and people everywhere else who have to lock themselves down again.  Hopefully you guys get the vaccine sometime soon, and hopefully this whole fucking shitbomb of a pandemic will burn itself out--this year. 

[LeGaulois]

In my country, the shops are supposed to close at 06.00 p.m. and we're not allowed to go out after this hour. Personally, I don't care, I'm already in pajama  
The irony starts when the restaurants are closed because it brings too many people in the same room but at the same time the schools are open despite there is also "too many people in the same room"
Some persons lose their mind, I have seen people fighting at the supermarket for some bottles of water, fearing possible penury. How crazy is it?

On a serious note, I wonder if we will notice a huge correction in the real estate market? Since many people are losing their job and folks don't have money to buy a house/apartment maybe the prices will decrease a lot?
Actually, nobody talks about it.

I mean less demand so prices decrease... Actually, it may be a good opportunity to buy if it happens. Imagine paying 15-20% less.

Even perhaps to buy an established business. Many won't survive, they're currently in agony despite the free money from the government. If the business was profitable before the crisis once it finishes it will be profitable again. So you come with your fresh money, wait until it ends and get something making profits.
I'm talking about very small businesses of course, for example a shop with 1 employee

[bvoriue]

I am in a village that is not a red zone, I have never felt what a lockdown is like, because here, from the first news about Covid-19, the community is active as usual, only in the first months the health protocol is very strict, here it seems like nothing, although Thus we remain vigilant, when we go out of the house always prioritize health protocols.
Hopefully this pandemic will end soon.

[just_Alice]

The place I live, things have happened in a very strange fashion: March 2020, when it all has just started, and there were on average 3-5 cases per day (within the whole country!!) - we had a very strict quarantine, only groceries and drugstores were allowed, and only a limited number of people per time, you couldn't be seen just walking around, there was a serious patrol police and if anyone found out you were just taking a walk - you'd be issued a fine! It's been going on like that for about three weeks, everyone was very serious and very scared back then.

And now, as time has passed, the situation became quite the opposite: we have thousands of cases per day, but no one cares, people barely wear masks, there are so-called "lockdowns", but they aren't very serious or even close to what we had at the beginning, there are limitations like you can't sit right next to someone in the cinema, you have to wear a mask, but if you don't - no one will notice and give a comment, the restaurants can't work from 12 PM till 7 AM (not that anyone ever went to the restaurant at this hour). So basically there are no strict limitations, while there should be and that's what drives me crazy!

I guess the people are just too tired of all this and many have already gone through coronavirus sickness, so no one follows any rules, and, I guess, no rules apply anymore, that's very frustrating because many people still get sick and die, but everyone is just used to it now  

[bitsurfer2014]

My country, the Philippines had suffered a lot during the hard lock down which has resulted to a huge number of business closures and jobs lost and had left most Filipinos in a state of uncertainty and insecurity. What I fear is that the pandemic could somehow affect our mental health - as in my case, had experienced some form of anxiety attacks - which could have detrimental effects in the future if left unchecked.

Thankfully, the National Government together with Local Government Units had somehow realized that a hard lock down with no concrete results could have worsen our country's economy  thus had acted to ease some restrictions like allowing businesses to open up  and keep the economy rolling but they are enforcing strict implementation of health protocols like personal sanitation, contact tracing, wearing of face masks and social distacing, etc...

But I guess we should take it on the lighter side, I mean having quality time to spend with family during lock downs is good enough. I hope we could overcome this pandemic very soon.

[lienfaye]

We are somehow lucky here in our place for having less cases of covid 19 in the past few months. Due to this, the lockdown is finally lifted and now we are under general community quarantine which is way better than before. Now we can go to malls, market, theme park anytime as long as we dont have a minor companions.

If I recall correctly the strict lockdown started last March of 2020, we are coerce to stop working (as not a frontliner) and stay at home to prevent the virus from spreading. That time its really depressing specially if you dont have savings to count on for your daily needs but you cant do anything since you cant go outside to work. Good thing there's a relief goods from the government that really help the unfortunate people to survive the pandemic.

There are many bad sides of this lockdown but I am positive to only think of its good sides. I have more time to spend in my family, do the things that I dont usually do because of being busy at work and with the help of internet I learned just by watching videos on youtube about baking and crafting.

[hulla]

The pandemic totally changes everything and makes us see the world as a different thing but one thing I understand about complying with the total lockdown and dealing with the financial and the mental repercussions caused by the pandemic/lockdown is that it better to stay alive than get kill by the virus.
The only way I depressed about the financial and mental repercussions is by taking an online class and looking for an online job that will bring something good for me. In the meantime, the Greece government ought to make a huge step in getting the virus vaccine.

[maxreish]

I kinda understand that the psychological effect of this lockdown is truly enters one's system. Especially those who just lost their job and stayed at home until now since last year. Negative effects like fear, mental health conditions etc. Those who can't bear those sudden changes in life will go through a hard times.

But then, we can also divert ourselves from this repercussions by having a good mindset and doing other things like focusing on bitcoin trading, family spending, etc. There's  a lot of things to be focused on rather than being trap on a situation wherein we know that we can surpass this situation.

There are so many ways to cope that up and relieve your stress and overcome all of your bad feelings right now. Meditate and connection to the other people will somehow help you to feel comfortable.
We've been there before and now we are in an optimistic approach wherein we are strong enough to reduce that anxiety now. Bear in mind that it is not forever like this.

[xSkylarx]

But then, we can also divert ourselves from this repercussions by having a good mindset and doing other things like focusing on bitcoin trading, family spending, etc. There's  a lot of things to be focused on rather than being trap on a situation wherein we know that we can surpass this situation.

The problem is some people who lost their work are suffering from depression because they don't know where to get a source of income for their family. Some of them have a field of work that is not applicable remotely and they are in a country where there is a strict lockdown. What you said is impossible to do if the main issue is money.

Your surroundings or environment will affect how you will cope up with depression. If you surround yourself with optimist type of people, they can help you think properly and will give you some ideas on how to have a source of income even if at home.

[Wind_FURY]

OP, what I do is meditate and focus on the Serenity Prayer. I was never a religious person, but the pandemic has caused me to question some aspects in my life. Like drinking until I pass out. Hahaha.

Plus, expect the worse. I believe the institutions are not buying Bitcoin for profit, they might be hedging for a major economic crisis.

[Strongkored]

the situation is increasingly uncertain, especially in my country, several times on holidays people are allowed to travel for vacation and the impact of the increase in the number of covid cases has risen very high, so that for me who has lost my job and business is not going as expected, the situation is getting more difficult (can I said that right now I am on depression), I'm sure there are many out there who are in worse condition.

I'd like to discuss the financial and the mental repercussions of the pandemic plus, how do you cope with the Lockdown yourself?

keep on thinking positively and listening to music that can inspire and increase knowledge and skills.

[zanezane]

OP, what I do is meditate and focus on the Serenity Prayer. I was never a religious person, but the pandemic has caused me to question some aspects in my life. Like drinking until I pass out. Hahaha.

Plus, expect the worse. I believe the institutions are not buying Bitcoin for profit, they might be hedging for a major economic crisis.

Pretty nice that you can meditate, my way of coping with the pandemic is just by reading manga, watching anime, watching series or movies in Netflix, or read a book. The quote above seems to be changed man after this lockdown, I hope that you won't relapse and go back to the old ways. I really love the lockdown in my area because I am not an outdoor person although some birthday invites gets me out of my house. I am against the long lockdown although I love it but if the government in my country always messes up which in turn makes the lockdown longer then it is not acceptable.