King Billy is stealing our money!

[twixkingdom3]

I played today for hours on King Billy. did about 200 spins and nothing. WHats up with their RTP seems wrong cause it doesnt make any sense. Sent a complaint to King Billy. Dont recommend at all. Has this happened to more people?

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[Pmalek]

Each slot game has different RTP rates. Just because you played 200 rounds doesn't mean that you should have won or that your chances of winning increase compared to players who play just one of two spins. The chance of you winning a jackpot on your first spin is the same as on your 1.000th spin. If it was that easy, all players had to do is to play 200+ rounds and they'll have a big chance to win. What games did you play? Did you consider the volatility of those games? If it's high or extremely high, your chances of winning regularly decrease drastically.

King Billy doesn't seem to have an ANN thread on Bitcointalk anymore. They used to, but it's now in Archival.
There are two links to this casino, not sure if it's the same platform/provider.

Which one did you use?
https://www.kingbilly.com/
https://www.kingbillycasino.com/

[Natsuu]

Gambling is gambling, your luck probably sucks if 200 spins is not enough for you to have some win. Either way, the probability in slots and alike games are subjected to same percentage of winnings no matter how many times you try. If it starts with a 1% chance of winning, then the next nth times of games you play will still stick in the 1% chance of winning.

Don't blame the casino for losing in slots, etc, as this games rely on probability and luck.

Though, I'll be happy to see if you can give some significant evidence that will prove your claims 

[btc_angela]

I played today for hours on King Billy. did about 200 spins and nothing. WHats up with their RTP seems wrong cause it doesnt make any sense. Sent a complaint to King Billy. Dont recommend at all. Has this happened to more people?

Lol, 200 spins is just a small sample size to say that something is fishy on the casino that you are playing, not defending them, just saying the data is too little to come up with a conclusion.

We have gamblers playering like 5000-10000 spins not winning at all. Didn't mention the games you played at well so that we can see what the actual RTP is.

[Lorence.xD]

Gambling is gambling, your luck probably sucks if 200 spins is not enough for you to have some win. Either way, the probability in slots and alike games are subjected to same percentage of winnings no matter how many times you try. If it starts with a 1% chance of winning, then the next nth times of games you play will still stick in the 1% chance of winning.

Don't blame the casino for losing in slots, etc, as this games rely on probability and luck.

Though, I'll be happy to see if you can give some significant evidence that will prove your claims 

There will be no evidence, you should've quit at 50 losses because sometimes RNG doesn't work in your favor, they can't rig it because they will suffer the consequences legally. Gotta agree, OP's day must have been bad, but it isn't sensible to blame it on the game, there might have been a glitch or the range of RNG is so wide that it will be difficult to get a win, have OP contacted other players because if this is not an isolated case, then it will be alarming.

[YuginKadoya]

I also had experience with other sites that has the same RTP and has no luck at all, well you can not blame King billy in any sense that you are losing so much because this is gambling and you had played in their service knowing that it is risky, I really think that is kind of normal for gambling,

And you should expect some people would say the same way that you should not be surprised about losing so much money on gambling it is a part of your luck that you are losing, Casino tend to rely on luck alone.

[peter0425]

I played today for hours on King Billy. did about 200 spins and nothing. WHats up with their RTP seems wrong cause it doesnt make any sense. Sent a complaint to King Billy. Dont recommend at all. Has this happened to more people?

So if you Play 200 spin meaning you Must win ? unless that 200 spin brings you no win at all then that must be an issue because i have not read anything in similar in my entire career that a gambler losses 200 streak .

the way you talk i believe that you're a old time gambler , why ask this here ? frustration ?

[freedomgo]

I played today for hours on King Billy. did about 200 spins and nothing. WHats up with their RTP seems wrong cause it doesnt make any sense. Sent a complaint to King Billy. Dont recommend at all. Has this happened to more people?

This should be in the Scam accusation board.

You should provide the exact URL of the site, there's a lot of sites that has a similar name, at least we know what specific site we would avoid.
And honestly, I have not heard the name of this site, maybe because I'm limited to gambling sites popular in this forum only.

[robelneo]

I played today for hours on King Billy. did about 200 spins and nothing. WHats up with their RTP seems wrong cause it doesnt make any sense. Sent a complaint to King Billy. Dont recommend at all. Has this happened to more people?

This is not a good experience 200 spins is just too much although there are members who posted that they can do more, it's better that you post your screenshot, something like an allegation like this should be backed by concrete evidence, unless other players on KIngBilly back up your claim, we can consider that you are having bad luck that day.

[swogerino]

I have done thorough testing of different slot machines in Play for Fun mode and let me say that 200 spins is nothing.Many games can give you the free spins within 100 spins but many you have to play much longer.I don’t know what is happening at King Billy but you should play at least 500-1000 spins in order to see some wins or bonus rounds,this is from my personal experience in many other slots I have played.

[imstillthebest]

Although I do not know how to play that game, playing for 200 spins will be too long for me, and I can not imagine how much money I will lose.

king billy is not a game but its a casino and my guess is he played slot games because he was complaining with the rtp and rtp is the term that used in slots .
slots game are easy but winning can be hard if your inner luck wont going to let you win .
 you can reach 200 spins without loosing too much if you will bet small .

This should be in the Scam accusation board.
You should provide the exact URL of the site, there's a lot of sites that has a similar name, at least we know what specific site we would avoid.
And honestly, I have not heard the name of this site, maybe because I'm limited to gambling sites popular in this forum only.

kingbilly wasnt a scam and no need to post a scam accuse for a light reason because that wont be valid but he can if he got phished by a fakebilly casino

[slaman29]

As pointed out above, RTP is average and expected. Gambling with 200 spins as you found out makes you extremely vulnerable to variance. You'd have to do millions of spins to see a closer to expected RTP. It works the same in dice. I've probably lucked out on some places and not on others just from millions of dice rolls on 1% edge.

[janggernaut]

What do you mean? You have rolled 200 spins and none of them is win? Even though it's only small amount? If it was only small amount of winning, it still considered as a win.

Higher RTP doesn't mean you will always win, it's just percentage % which still depends from your luck too. If you compare games you played with slots in youtube or any source which win huge money, you don't know how much they losses before win that amount. Slot games also have highest risk compared other games.

[Latviand]

Don't gamble if you are complaining about your losses, and that's what makes gambling much more risky than trading.

If you feel unlucky that day then stop, you can somehow continue in the next few days so that you can start much better.

Losing streak in gambling can really make you that kind of person.

King Billy is not stealing our money, he also played with your emotion that's why you need to control your temper and stop gambling for awhile.

[fiulpro]

I played today for hours on King Billy. did about 200 spins and nothing. WHats up with their RTP seems wrong cause it doesnt make any sense. Sent a complaint to King Billy. Dont recommend at all. Has this happened to more people?

See not exactly on the same platform but it happens time and again to me , this is actually very common as for me I did once managed to double my money in a casino but unfortunately there is something called **Greed** , **over confidence** that made me play again and again and so you know I did not only loose my profits but also my investment money as well. Therefore I do not think it was indeed the fault of any casino but indeed it was the fault of me to not encash the money right when I made the profits and this did happen to me not once but twice actually.

I believe that for the future you do have to consider thinking before , make more sophisticated bets and lay down your own principles at the end of the day it's all in your control. Or if you are worrying too much then I think you can just try and play in some other casino as well or play games that are not based on luck but rather are skill based.

Plus no casino comes with the promise that they will help the user make money , consider it super expensive paid game.

[South Park]

Gambling is gambling, your luck probably sucks if 200 spins is not enough for you to have some win. Either way, the probability in slots and alike games are subjected to same percentage of winnings no matter how many times you try. If it starts with a 1% chance of winning, then the next nth times of games you play will still stick in the 1% chance of winning.

Don't blame the casino for losing in slots, etc, as this games rely on probability and luck.

Though, I'll be happy to see if you can give some significant evidence that will prove your claims 

If he had any evidence I think it is fair to say that we would have already see it by now, the OP just got mad that he lost so many times in a row and now he is claiming that he got cheated, the truth is that as we know gambling is random and you have the odds against you so losing so many times in a row may seem impossible but this is precisely why systems like martingale do not work at all, because no matter how unlikely you think an outcome can be it can always happen to you.

[Reatim]

I played today for hours on King Billy. did about 200 spins and nothing. WHats up with their RTP seems wrong cause it doesnt make any sense. Sent a complaint to King Billy. Dont recommend at all. Has this happened to more people?

I don't get the point here , Do you mean that in 200 spin at least you will surely win ? for you to believe that the game is legit ?
i have just Played now in one of the most legit gambling site now and my 100$ did not even win in slot while i only bet 50 cents per roll.
Does this mean that i must file a case against Slot games?
If you don't know gambling mate please don't play because when you gamble expect that 70-80% chance of you losing while only a small percentage to win
but with the fun and thrill we get? that is enough for us to called win .

[avikz]

I played today for hours on King Billy. did about 200 spins and nothing. WHats up with their RTP seems wrong cause it doesnt make any sense. Sent a complaint to King Billy. Dont recommend at all. Has this happened to more people?

Is there any other casino available that guarantees you a win in every 200 spins?? Show us and we will avoid it because that's an alarm for us! So you shouldn't have expected such things from any casino and not only the king Billy one!

Also it seems the parent company N1 Interactive Ltd. operates total 28 casinos in the market. Check the link below,

https://www.askgamblers.com/owner/n1-interactive-ltd-casinos

You acquisition seems pretty vague!

[passwordnow]

Never gambled there but gambling is gambling, you win, you lose. What you're telling us is you have never won which is a basic thing as you gamble.
And you haven't provided any valid proof to support your claim.

[Saisher]

Last login ten days ago and last post was this thread, this allegation will not stand because OP did not back it up with proof that he really play, there's a possibility that his account is only to cast bad light on the gambling site, he should have created this thread or move it in the scam section, but I doubt it will stand, there are members who claims to have lost more than what you rolled.

[Xinarae*]

Gambling sites should be well reviewed by you it takes a long time to play for 200 spins so many gamblers refrain from playing from this site. It is worth considering in more detail the definition of the prize fund of the tournament at the very beginning, the amount of fight you will fight with other players is randomly determined but since you are talking about their site you have to wait for the next replay. If it is a scam you will never get your lost money back these thrush need to be well analyzed.

[traderethereum]

I played today for hours on King Billy. did about 200 spins and nothing. WHats up with their RTP seems wrong cause it doesnt make any sense. Sent a complaint to King Billy. Dont recommend at all. Has this happened to more people?

I do not gamble on that site, but if you lose 200 spins, that will be your responsibility. Why you let yourself play gambling and lose it on that games.
If you use too big money, I think 200 spins will be too big money, and I do not think that you can recover that losing money because you lose it from playing gambling games.
I do not play gambling with too big money, so I do not have experience with that.
You should wait for a while until they respond to your complaint and search for the problem.

[electronicash]

I played today for hours on King Billy. did about 200 spins and nothing. WHats up with their RTP seems wrong cause it doesnt make any sense. Sent a complaint to King Billy. Dont recommend at all. Has this happened to more people?

I do not gamble on that site, but if you lose 200 spins, that will be your responsibility. Why you let yourself play gambling and lose it on that games.
If you use too big money, I think 200 spins will be too big money, and I do not think that you can recover that losing money because you lose it from playing gambling games.
I do not play gambling with too big money, so I do not have experience with that.
You should wait for a while until they respond to your complaint and search for the problem.

well it took him 200 to realize he's not winning against them. pushing the luck that hard could lead to losing more.
site is not known here in the forum. users who are aware of scams in bitcoin casino will never play on a casino that's not very familiar here in the forum. I can KingBilly has a thread in bitcointalk but i don't remember them doing a promotion here to make their casino reputable.

 

[acroman08]

Last login ten days ago and last post was this thread, this allegation will not stand because OP did not back it up with proof that he really play, there's a possibility that his account is only to cast bad light on the gambling site, he should have created this thread or move it in the scam section, but I doubt it will stand, there are members who claims to have lost more than what you rolled.

there's no issue here. the thread was only created out of frustration of losing. there has been a lot of thread created similar to this in this board and scam accusations. the OP probably has calmed down hours later and realize that what he said is just BS after the thread was created that's why there is no more follow up from him.

[Bitcoinislife09]

I played today for hours on King Billy. did about 200 spins and nothing. WHats up with their RTP seems wrong cause it doesnt make any sense. Sent a complaint to King Billy. Dont recommend at all. Has this happened to more people?

It's still gambling so it's just pure luck no strategy or any skills to win the game. I don't play that much when it comes to slots games because I just feel the same I don't think the websites are dishonest but it just has a really low chance of winning. Don't gamble on that website since you lose a lot, I suggest you find a great website where you win most of the time. It just my experience but there is a lot of dishonest gambling website that actually has a bad algorithm when it comes to winning mostly the common outcomes was losing and only a small percentage was winning, meaning no one will win unless many players loss already.

[carlfebz2]

Common words when you do lost up big time in slots and you do took blame that the slot isnt fair. Lol!

Slot tips? This one is ideal.
Higher denomination slots have higher payback percentages
Make sure you bet enough to be eligible for the jackpots
Choose games that fit your goals and playing personality
Always play within your budget
Start small to win big, or “prime the pump”

Source: https://www.888casino.com/blog/slot-tips-dos-and-donts

@OP, just move on and you can either choose low or high rtp type of slot games.

[traderethereum]

I played today for hours on King Billy. did about 200 spins and nothing. WHats up with their RTP seems wrong cause it doesnt make any sense. Sent a complaint to King Billy. Dont recommend at all. Has this happened to more people?

I do not gamble on that site, but if you lose 200 spins, that will be your responsibility. Why you let yourself play gambling and lose it on that games.
If you use too big money, I think 200 spins will be too big money, and I do not think that you can recover that losing money because you lose it from playing gambling games.
I do not play gambling with too big money, so I do not have experience with that.
You should wait for a while until they respond to your complaint and search for the problem.

well it took him 200 to realize he's not winning against them. pushing the luck that hard could lead to losing more.
site is not known here in the forum. users who are aware of scams in bitcoin casino will never play on a casino that's not very familiar here in the forum. I can KingBilly has a thread in bitcointalk but i don't remember them doing a promotion here to make their casino reputable.

We do not know how much money he uses to gamble for that 200 spins.
If he can tell us about the money he spent, we can see that it is a big or small losing. But still, that is a loss for him.
I think he found that site from the search engine because if he found the site from here, I am sure he will know what gambling site has reputations and has a good service to their members.
Even if the site promotes this forum, they can easily scam people on here and run away with the money because we do not know if they are serious with their business or just want to scam the people.

[twixkingdom3]

guys shit I meant to write 20 spins.. I was writing out of anger but it still was a frustrating experience.. I listened to you guys and just stopped playing there its not worth it for me

[sujonali1819]

guys shit I meant to write 20 spins.. I was writing out of anger but it still was a frustrating experience.. I listened to you guys and just stopped playing there its not worth it for me

Still I can not understand what's the problem actually happened there. Even you did not post the site url nor any proof. You stopped played there it’s good for you. But when you make any scam accusation always care about it and try to provide all the possible information and proofs.

Or if you do not need any farther discussion try to lock this topic.