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March 06, 2021, 08:39:02 AM
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Sponsor money is good if it's coming from a reputable gambling site, but if it's coming from a dubious gambling site like 1XBIT who is very notorious for scamming gamblers, then it's not worth it, all content creator depends on sponsorship and bonus to be able to sustain their channel or network, I have watched a lot of videos with sponsors and it adds value to both creator and viewers. 

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March 06, 2021, 12:49:27 PM
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Based on my observation in some of these videos, mostly these people are using Youtube as their platform of choice, maybe less for some of the other platforms. And maybe most of them does not really take into consideration if these casinos are legit or not before accepting these sponsorships. I mean I have not seen any illegal yet but scams and failed casino there few from my observation. That should not affect the reputation of these youtubers because they are simply advertising or were "employed" as video marketers.

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March 06, 2021, 11:16:51 PM
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Based on my observation in some of these videos, mostly these people are using Youtube as their platform of choice, maybe less for some of the other platforms. And maybe most of them does not really take into consideration if these casinos are legit or not before accepting these sponsorships. I mean I have not seen any illegal yet but scams and failed casino there few from my observation. That should not affect the reputation of these youtubers because they are simply advertising or were "employed" as video marketers.
But on having that ethical side of things, arent you worried into those players who had made deposits just because you had advertised a scammy casino or it turns out to be having an exit scam or not really fair at all?
If you are a type of person or advertiser who do just simply mind of the money without minding others situation on losing theirs then i cant blame you but there are people who do really make out research first before
accepting any advertisement neither those companies are legit or not even though it might not able to affect your reputation but your conscience will really be on ease.
Well, this is just my own view or feeling.

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March 06, 2021, 11:52:01 PM
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Based on my observation in some of these videos, mostly these people are using Youtube as their platform of choice, maybe less for some of the other platforms. And maybe most of them does not really take into consideration if these casinos are legit or not before accepting these sponsorships. I mean I have not seen any illegal yet but scams and failed casino there few from my observation. That should not affect the reputation of these youtubers because they are simply advertising or were "employed" as video marketers.

You probably mean some small channels and channels with entertainment content and a short long life. There are strict advertising rules on YouTube and as far as I know, a few complaints are enough and the channel closes very quickly. Therefore, advertisers are constantly opening new ones with simple but popular content such as coubs.

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March 06, 2021, 11:58:25 PM
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Based on my observation in some of these videos, mostly these people are using Youtube as their platform of choice, maybe less for some of the other platforms. And maybe most of them does not really take into consideration if these casinos are legit or not before accepting these sponsorships. I mean I have not seen any illegal yet but scams and failed casino there few from my observation. That should not affect the reputation of these youtubers because they are simply advertising or were "employed" as video marketers.

You probably mean some small channels and channels with entertainment content and a short long life. There are strict advertising rules on YouTube and as far as I know, a few complaints are enough and the channel closes very quickly. Therefore, advertisers are constantly opening new ones with simple but popular content such as coubs.

yes, i dont think an established YT channel will take the risk of endorsing a fraudulent casino. because one mistake, and they know, they will lose that channel as well as followers. media is sometimes a powerful tool to influence people but they also need to be responsible about it. and they know that.
with small channel and low number of followers, they can always risk that. because they can create another one.

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March 07, 2021, 09:38:23 AM
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If I am a streamer and an influencer I will accept sponsor money that I can use to try out their casino, they want testimonial on how good their casino the features of their casino and I need content to show to my subscribers, it's actually a win-win situation for both of us not only for us but for my subscribers as well.
Yes.
Most of them just want to be reviewed by the influencer with a lot of followers so, in return, they give incentives maybe in cash, and at the same time the comfort to try their casino with credits.
But as an influencer, you should also give caution to your followers that it should only be done and checked if they're at the legal age.

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March 07, 2021, 03:55:26 PM
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Every single business, service, will always have some marketing strategy to promote their service. In casinos, one of the marketing is to paid someone like Streamer or Youtuber to play on his casino. One of the examples offers from casinos they give for the promotion giving some sponsor money to play for every Youtuber or Streamer. If you watching a gambling video mostly on CRYPTO & CS-GO casino, it's not quite familiar anymore when they got sponsor money from the casino.
If I am a streamer and an influencer I will accept sponsor money that I can use to try out their casino, they want testimonial on how good their casino the features of their casino and I need content to show to my subscribers, it's actually a win-win situation for both of us not only for us but for my subscribers as well.
That sounds good, but others won't do same as you have said mate, they will use the sponsored money and never put the interest of his/her subscribers into consideration. I have some good streamers around myself and am always very afraid whenever i see their reviews on a casinos, i don't know what it will cause to be sincere to yourself to help others avoid be SCAM.

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That sounds good, but others won't do same as you have said mate, they will use the sponsored money and never put the interest of his/her subscribers into consideration. I have some good streamers around myself and am always very afraid whenever i see their reviews on a casinos, i don't know what it will cause to be sincere to yourself to help others avoid be SCAM.

Most streamers will take sponsors' money simply out of greed or need, and well who does not want money? They will not even check about how good or genuine that casino or gambling website is, but will take anything to advertise them and make quick bucks. I bet you must have seen many Forex options advertisements on Youtube? What do you think? Are all those options brokers trustworthy? Try one of them and you will regret when they will block your reason for no reason if you win too often, but they will not let you win there as they manipulate the results with 'wicks' the last moment when you are about to win your bet.
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March 07, 2021, 09:35:36 PM
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You probably mean some small channels and channels with entertainment content and a short long life. There are strict advertising rules on YouTube and as far as I know, a few complaints are enough and the channel closes very quickly. Therefore, advertisers are constantly opening new ones with simple but popular content such as coubs.

yes, i dont think an established YT channel will take the risk of endorsing a fraudulent casino. because one mistake, and they know, they will lose that channel as well as followers. media is sometimes a powerful tool to influence people but they also need to be responsible about it. and they know that.
with small channel and low number of followers, they can always risk that. because they can create another one.

In the Russian-speaking segment of YouTube, I have been observing this business for a long time. People create channels, buy ads (most likely) to promote them quickly and use embedded videos to advertise murky projects like casinos or some kind of trust investment. After the channel is banned, it is created anew with a slight name change. And it repeats itself endlessly. Apparently this is a lucrative business and murky projects are willing to pay for such advertising.

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March 07, 2021, 10:53:45 PM
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Every single business, service, will always have some marketing strategy to promote their service. In casinos, one of the marketing is to paid someone like Streamer or Youtuber to play on his casino. One of the examples offers from casinos they give for the promotion giving some sponsor money to play for every Youtuber or Streamer. If you watching a gambling video mostly on CRYPTO & CS-GO casino, it's not quite familiar anymore when they got sponsor money from the casino.

Here some sponsor offer I know from some casino:
  • Fully sponsor money
    This one of the most offer some casino give for promoting his casino, they paid some streamer or youtube and fully sponsor the money to play on their casino but with some condition, you cannot withdraw the money
  • Bonus deposit sponsor
    This sponsor was quite rare, I only know some casino that got this sponsor one of the example YouTubers called Drew. Yeah, he got a bonus sponsor deposit when he deposit around 3K USD the casino adds his balance around 2K off course without any requirement like minimum wagger

Right now, I'm want to hear everyone's opinion about sponsor money.

What do you things for some streamer who playing using sponsor money? did you feel that was not good or you have another opinion. IMO, I don't mind with some sponsor money as long the streamer admitted on the video he using sponsor money and not just say that was his own money when the reality the money came from sponsor money or even the worst scenario playing using demo money.

And of course, the casino that sponsors the money came from a reputable casino. I believe in bicointalk some casino even reputable casino was also offering this sponsor for some YouTuber or streamer.

I kinda feel got some entertainment from this even they playing with some sponsor money, as long the money sponsor not really a ridiculous amount.

This is one of the marketing strategy now in casino online gambling platform to attract the gamblers to play on their website.
In short, it maybe a trap or in favor for the real experts gambler. So, for me it doesn't matter and I don't care because I am not a gamblers
and its not my habit to play with it all the time. Then, if you feel entertained that's good anyway in your part.

Yes, I also saw some YouTubers sponsored but usually on videos they always remind you of the risk of gambling and be at least 18+
There are positives and negatives depending on how the gambler controls himself when gambling, I personally get both

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March 07, 2021, 11:59:32 PM
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Its completely normal to promote their casino's for me. Just like ads that you see in television or in many different youtube channel. This type of marketing is not new, i see a bunch gaming channels that promote a new game even in tiktok there are many affiliate marketing from different companies promoted by influencer's.
You are right and there are lots of them and you can see it everywhere which it turns out to be a casual or standard thing here on this market.

There are no issues on why wouldn't those advertisers will be accepting companies offers on using up some sponsor money?

They do all things just for the sake of earning money and it doesn't matter on where it would came from as long it would be legal and wont really be
violating other means.

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March 10, 2021, 01:26:46 AM
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Based on my observation in some of these videos, mostly these people are using Youtube as their platform of choice, maybe less for some of the other platforms. And maybe most of them does not really take into consideration if these casinos are legit or not before accepting these sponsorships. I mean I have not seen any illegal yet but scams and failed casino there few from my observation. That should not affect the reputation of these youtubers because they are simply advertising or were "employed" as video marketers.
But on having that ethical side of things, arent you worried into those players who had made deposits just because you had advertised a scammy casino or it turns out to be having an exit scam or not really fair at all?
If you are a type of person or advertiser who do just simply mind of the money without minding others situation on losing theirs then i cant blame you but there are people who do really make out research first before
accepting any advertisement neither those companies are legit or not even though it might not able to affect your reputation but your conscience will really be on ease.
Well, this is just my own view or feeling.
It is obvious that the owner of a channel like that is not going to prosper for long, the whole point of giving a review whether is sponsored or not is to give insight about the state of the service or product you are reviewing, if the review fails to address the reputation of the casino and how they are scamming their customers then it does not matter if the rest of the review was stellar, people will begin to avoid the channel and any profit the owner of that channel was expecting will evaporate overnight.
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Sponsor money is good if it's coming from a reputable gambling site, but if it's coming from a dubious gambling site like 1XBIT who is very notorious for scamming gamblers, then it's not worth it, all content creator depends on sponsorship and bonus to be able to sustain their channel or network, I have watched a lot of videos with sponsors and it adds value to both creator and viewers. 
Certainly, to become a sponsor is not just any site that can apply for sponsorship cooperation, as you might call a problematic site and also the cost for sponsorship is not cheap. It turns out that it has been arranged and allowed, for example, a soccer club using sponsorship from a gambling site. However, the question is that if the site becomes a sponsor, it is not impossible that there are club matches that are set for victory or defeat.

That can depend on the match fixing before the game starts because perhaps, that thing is to happen too. Perhaps, the shirt sponsorship does not have to add something related to gambling. Still, they can add a logo or small image to the shirts to avoid misunderstanding between the government, club owner, and people because the government doesn't want to see the sports sponsorships. The club seems to invite people to play gambling. The promoters need to select sports sponsorships carefully to avoid the government's prohibitions related to gambling.
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Its completely normal to promote their casino's for me. Just like ads that you see in television or in many different youtube channel. This type of marketing is not new, i see a bunch gaming channels that promote a new game even in tiktok there are many affiliate marketing from different companies promoted by influencer's.
I think so too, they are a business after all and every good businesses needs to have advertisements one way or another. In terms of is it good or bad, I think that it is a matter of perspective, for example, you are a devout Christian and you outspokenly denounce gambling which means that any form of sponsorship or such is going to be bad for you but if you are on the other side of the spectrum where you are an influencer who does anything for a meager sponsorship then casino sponsorship is a good thing.

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March 10, 2021, 09:20:39 AM
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Its completely normal to promote their casino's for me. Just like ads that you see in television or in many different youtube channel. This type of marketing is not new, i see a bunch gaming channels that promote a new game even in tiktok there are many affiliate marketing from different companies promoted by influencer's.
I think so too, they are a business after all and every good businesses needs to have advertisements one way or another. In terms of is it good or bad, I think that it is a matter of perspective, for example, you are a devout Christian and you outspokenly denounce gambling which means that any form of sponsorship or such is going to be bad for you but if you are on the other side of the spectrum where you are an influencer who does anything for a meager sponsorship then casino sponsorship is a good thing.

I fully agree, and as long as tabacco companies and alcohol producers are allowed to make advertising, why not casinos? Both cigarettes and alcohol are bad for your body while gambling has no direct effect on your body. There might be some unlucky few who take it too far and lose a lot of money. But the sand is happening with lotteries. Usually the government's owns these so they don't mind too much. Casino advertisings and promotions should definitely be legalised.
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March 10, 2021, 10:12:47 AM
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As Bob Dylan wrote, "You Have to Serve Somebody"

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You may like to gamble, you might like to dance
You may be the heavyweight champion of the world
You may be a socialite with a long string of pearls
But you're gonna have to serve somebody, yes
Indeed you're gonna have to serve somebody
Well, it may be the devil or it may be the Lord
But you're gonna have to serve somebody
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And that is my thinking on this, you do actually need to have an sponsorship if you are not doing a directly productive job, so yes, no issue with that sponsorship. I personally put my own limit in gangster, drug dealing and prostitution money. The rest is fine, as it is about personal choices.

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March 13, 2021, 03:24:30 AM
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Its completely normal to promote their casino's for me. Just like ads that you see in television or in many different youtube channel. This type of marketing is not new, i see a bunch gaming channels that promote a new game even in tiktok there are many affiliate marketing from different companies promoted by influencer's.
I think so too, they are a business after all and every good businesses needs to have advertisements one way or another. In terms of is it good or bad, I think that it is a matter of perspective, for example, you are a devout Christian and you outspokenly denounce gambling which means that any form of sponsorship or such is going to be bad for you but if you are on the other side of the spectrum where you are an influencer who does anything for a meager sponsorship then casino sponsorship is a good thing.

I fully agree, and as long as tabacco companies and alcohol producers are allowed to make advertising, why not casinos? Both cigarettes and alcohol are bad for your body while gambling has no direct effect on your body. There might be some unlucky few who take it too far and lose a lot of money. But the sand is happening with lotteries. Usually the government's owns these so they don't mind too much. Casino advertisings and promotions should definitely be legalised.
I don't think there is anything wrong with promoting a casino, something that both of us are doing right now, however there is some form of advertising that is kind of deceiving, it is like for example in those infomercials in which you see people reacting positively to a product and then you find out that those people were actors, if those people were giving real reviews about the product you will not have anything to complain about but since they are actors there is something a little bit dishonest about it because they were going to give a good review no matter what since they were being paid, and some people may think the same about those that receive sponsor money from casinos.
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March 23, 2021, 10:48:39 PM
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This is a very interesting topic, especially for someone who writes casino reviews. I think every partnership has the potential to be honest, deceiving, or even both in a way. Everything falls down to whether you choose to be open with your fans or not.

At GoodLuckMate, for example, we have a disclaimer and an entire page explaining to our readers how we make money. The disclaimer is visible at all times, so there's not a chance someone will miss it. That's our way of ensuring that our readers understand our business model. I'd say this is an honest approach as nobody would just randomly write over 800 casino reviews for the fun of it. Even when you want to help people and provide them useful information, you need to also make money to survive.

That said, if the people who are sponsored don't hide this information from their fans, I don't see a problem there. I think it's not fair to show off with 'real cash' and give false expectations and representations to your viewers. But, if they know that you're playing for fun with sponsored money or bonus money and they still enjoy watching you play, then that's perfectly fine.

Honesty is everything, regardless of whether you are in the crypto industry, iGaming industry, or any other industry really. If you want your fans to respect you, you must respect them, as well. Otherwise, you will quickly lose them and your reputation.

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This is a very interesting topic, especially for someone who writes casino reviews. I think every partnership has the potential to be honest, deceiving, or even both in a way. Everything falls down to whether you choose to be open with your fans or not.

At GoodLuckMate, for example, we have a disclaimer and an entire page explaining to our readers how we make money. The disclaimer is visible at all times, so there's not a chance someone will miss it. That's our way of ensuring that our readers understand our business model. I'd say this is an honest approach as nobody would just randomly write over 800 casino reviews for the fun of it. Even when you want to help people and provide them useful information, you need to also make money to survive.

That said, if the people who are sponsored don't hide this information from their fans, I don't see a problem there. I think it's not fair to show off with 'real cash' and give false expectations and representations to your viewers. But, if they know that you're playing for fun with sponsored money or bonus money and they still enjoy watching you play, then that's perfectly fine.

Honesty is everything, regardless of whether you are in the crypto industry, iGaming industry, or any other industry really. If you want your fans to respect you, you must respect them, as well. Otherwise, you will quickly lose them and your reputation.

A streamer could pretty well advertise the casino if he could try and learn more of the casino by trying and gambling on it too. You couldn't really promote well a product without trying it. Its going to be an outright lie telling the world that is a good casino to try out when he himself promoted it but has yet not even tried betting. Its plain and simple, they want people to learn from someone who personally have tried their services.

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March 24, 2021, 06:08:54 AM
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It's a marketing strategy, streamers are one of the best ways to promote games, casinos, etc. Since they have a lot of supporters and they can be a good influence on their viewers. However, I think they should be responsible for accepting such offers and never promoting bogus websites or platforms.
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