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March 06, 2021, 11:16:12 AM |
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I voted He is mentally unwell and is in need of professional help because he really is, and this defeat with Fury exposes his mental illness, a stable boxer will just pick himself up and go on to the next fight and just make himself better, and try to regain his confidence, he cannot get over with Fury, Fury beat him decisively and he's ego was hurt.
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March 06, 2021, 11:20:59 AM |
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Only 8 votes have been cast in the poll. 7 votes for: "He is mentally unwell and is need of professional help"
This thread deserves more votes.
Sorry I forgot to vote, update that to 9-1 now, and maybe despite of the small number of votes that expected, with that voting result, we already know what people think about Wilder.
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March 06, 2021, 02:52:28 PM |
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Even though just 8 votes have been cast in the poll so far it is pointing clearly towards Wilder being in need of professional help to recover from his mental issues.
The question is, would he really be accepting that suggestion nor accept to himself that he's really on a mental problem? This would be hard, he would be refusing nor denying at its best. Mental issues are really hard to solved on if you cant do it on yourself then seeking help to others would be your last option. If he can just accept the reality then people would just simply ignore and forget on what happened. The longer he will accept the lesser his chance of coming back in sport. Thing is, his value is still high as a boxer, he can still make more money with more fights but the way he think and acts, that's stripping away that opportunity from him, unless he will apologize and try to be professional afterwards. Never too late to make out some apologize on the things he had been trying to fight out.This isnt talking literally with boxing itself but rather on fighting on ones self. When it comes to value then thats no doubt but be sure that he wont be letting his name to be forgotten by his fans and jumped out into another favorite boxer. He wont able to reach out that rank or position if he's not capable, its just he cant really just accept the reality when someone losses on a sport. There's no specific on how long he would really be facing off this problem. One of the known boxers. Haton did really make out some comments about him. "Hatton says he wonders whether the former WBC heavyweight champion Wilder (42-1-1, 41 KOs) is in a good place mentally after the loss to Fury because his comments sound like someone that isn’t rational."Source: https://www.boxing247.com/boxing-news/170373/170373For sure other boxers would having the same sentiment.
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March 06, 2021, 10:10:03 PM |
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Even though just 8 votes have been cast in the poll so far it is pointing clearly towards Wilder being in need of professional help to recover from his mental issues.
The question is, would he really be accepting that suggestion nor accept to himself that he's really on a mental problem? This would be hard, he would be refusing nor denying at its best. Mental issues are really hard to solved on if you cant do it on yourself then seeking help to others would be your last option. If he can just accept the reality then people would just simply ignore and forget on what happened. The longer he will accept the lesser his chance of coming back in sport. Thing is, his value is still high as a boxer, he can still make more money with more fights but the way he think and acts, that's stripping away that opportunity from him, unless he will apologize and try to be professional afterwards. Never too late to make out some apologize on the things he had been trying to fight out.This isnt talking literally with boxing itself but rather on fighting on ones self. When it comes to value then thats no doubt but be sure that he wont be letting his name to be forgotten by his fans and jumped out into another favorite boxer. He wont able to reach out that rank or position if he's not capable, its just he cant really just accept the reality when someone losses on a sport. There's no specific on how long he would really be facing off this problem. One of the known boxers. Haton did really make out some comments about him. "Hatton says he wonders whether the former WBC heavyweight champion Wilder (42-1-1, 41 KOs) is in a good place mentally after the loss to Fury because his comments sound like someone that isn’t rational."Source: https://www.boxing247.com/boxing-news/170373/170373For sure other boxers would having the same sentiment. Hatton knows the feeling of defeat and he suffer a devastating loss against Manny Manny Pacquiao, he fought after that loss and still loss again, maybe he loss his focus when his ego was destroyed by the big loss and Hatton was not able to come back in boxing again. Wilder is different though but the effect seems too big for him to handle, that's what happen when a boxer has not taste defeat yet and has a mindset that he will never loss, accepting that loss might take some time for Wilder but hopefully he will soon realize as loss is a loss, he can't change it.
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March 06, 2021, 10:46:50 PM |
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^^ And Hatton went into depression, gain a lot of weight and there are reports that he do drugs as well to cope up with that devastating lost to Pacman.
And I agree that Wilder is a different case though, he didn't remain quiet as compare to Hatton, he went on a public meltdown that majority of us suspected that the lost against Fury was more of a mental to him. As he thinks he still has control of everything, but he is not.
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March 07, 2021, 01:11:39 AM |
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Thank you all for voting. It is now 12-1 but 13 votes in the poll is still a very low figure. I hope others start voting too. I voted Sorry I forgot to vote, update that to 9-1 now, and maybe despite of the small number of votes that expected, with that voting result, we already know what people think about Wilder.
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March 07, 2021, 02:12:50 AM |
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^^ And Hatton went into depression, gain a lot of weight and there are reports that he do drugs as well to cope up with that devastating lost to Pacman.
And I agree that Wilder is a different case though, he didn't remain quiet as compare to Hatton, he went on a public meltdown that majority of us suspected that the lost against Fury was more of a mental to him. As he thinks he still has control of everything, but he is not.
That's why being humble every time helps a lot to regain their sense because if those boxers who don't lose once before they get their first loss have been in high esteem every time they step in the ring. Just like what happen to Broner when he fought Maidana. Know that when you are strong there is always someone out there stronger than you and can defeat you at any moment that's why acceptance should be a must in this kind of scenario. I really hope to see him fight with Fury again but in this kind of situation that wouldn't be any good for him. He needs to find himself again and find his real reason why he wants to be the best of all fighters.
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March 07, 2021, 02:43:43 AM |
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I voted He is mentally unwell and is need of professional help even if there are 1000 voters they will vote the same option we did I guess based on what he is showing and what he is talking we can easily tell that he needs a professional who can get him out from the bad memory of losing to Fury it really haunts him.
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March 08, 2021, 10:15:55 PM |
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I voted He is mentally unwell and is need of professional help even if there are 1000 voters they will vote the same option we did I guess based on what he is showing and what he is talking we can easily tell that he needs a professional who can get him out from the bad memory of losing to Fury it really haunts him. He was beaten up really hard in the 2nd fight, I'm sure he did not expect and so he did not see it coming. That's the problem when he is too convince that he is the best and maybe underestimate the power of Fury since he was able to knock him down in the first fight. If only it was a close match and Wilder loss in a split decision, things could be different but the world witnessed how bad he lose from that KO win by Fury.
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March 08, 2021, 11:09:57 PM |
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I voted He is mentally unwell and is need of professional help even if there are 1000 voters they will vote the same option we did I guess based on what he is showing and what he is talking we can easily tell that he needs a professional who can get him out from the bad memory of losing to Fury it really haunts him. He was beaten up really hard in the 2nd fight, I'm sure he did not expect and so he did not see it coming. That's the problem when he is too convince that he is the best and maybe underestimate the power of Fury since he was able to knock him down in the first fight. If only it was a close match and Wilder loss in a split decision, things could be different but the world witnessed how bad he lose from that KO win by Fury. When you are really expecting to be the best in the world and when someone do beat your ass then you would really be having a hard time on moving on. This would become a nightmare that would really be haunting you down every now and then.It might be nonsense but there are people who are really having that kind of emotional problem or taking things up too seriously which would result for their minds to be out of right thinking.
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March 09, 2021, 02:13:58 AM |
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16 votes so far... only 2 votes are for the opinion Wilder is seeking attention in the hope a trilogy with Fury will take place.
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March 09, 2021, 02:29:26 AM |
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^^ And Hatton went into depression, gain a lot of weight and there are reports that he do drugs as well to cope up with that devastating lost to Pacman.
And I agree that Wilder is a different case though, he didn't remain quiet as compare to Hatton, he went on a public meltdown that majority of us suspected that the lost against Fury was more of a mental to him. As he thinks he still has control of everything, but he is not.
Didn't know that the loss with Pacquiao was something that Hatton took to the next level, I feel bad for him, I hope that this has already passed and Hatton is recovering from his problem. I think that each fighter have a different coping mechanisms, its just that Wilder is a bit more open than the other so we can see his breakdowns, nothing wrong with that personally, we have to have some vent for our feelings after all.
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^^ And Hatton went into depression, gain a lot of weight and there are reports that he do drugs as well to cope up with that devastating lost to Pacman.
And I agree that Wilder is a different case though, he didn't remain quiet as compare to Hatton, he went on a public meltdown that majority of us suspected that the lost against Fury was more of a mental to him. As he thinks he still has control of everything, but he is not.
That's why being humble every time helps a lot to regain their sense because if those boxers who don't lose once before they get their first loss have been in high esteem every time they step in the ring. Just like what happen to Broner when he fought Maidana. Know that when you are strong there is always someone out there stronger than you and can defeat you at any moment that's why acceptance should be a must in this kind of scenario. I really hope to see him fight with Fury again but in this kind of situation that wouldn't be any good for him. He needs to find himself again and find his real reason why he wants to be the best of all fighters. Being and remaining humble is probably not one of the characteristics that most people will choose to have in a world champion but it is absolutely necessary, even the champions that you see talking a lot and being kind of haughty still need to remain humble when they lose or otherwise they will never recover from it, this is what it is happening to Wilder, he needs to recompose himself and accept the defeat and train himself as he if was just starting his career as a boxer or he will never recover from this.
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Wilder showed a lot of respect to Fury after the first fight but that changed after the re-match. In all honesty I never encountered anybody that thought the fight should have been a draw because Fury won that fight, maybe that was the reason Wilder was so generous with his words towards Fury because a re-match was in the contract. It would be easy to say Wilder should be humble, I think he should but I also do not know his state of mind. It seems clear he needs help and needs to stay away from the boxing ring therefore it might not be possible right now to mentally well enough to know the difference between being humble and seeking attention by making allegations that are hard to believe. That's why being humble every time helps a lot to regain their sense because if those boxers who don't lose once before they get their first loss have been in high esteem every time they step in the ring. Just like what happen to Broner when he fought Maidana. Know that when you are strong there is always someone out there stronger than you and can defeat you at any moment that's why acceptance should be a must in this kind of scenario. I really hope to see him fight with Fury again but in this kind of situation that wouldn't be any good for him. He needs to find himself again and find his real reason why he wants to be the best of all fighters.
Being and remaining humble is probably not one of the characteristics that most people will choose to have in a world champion but it is absolutely necessary, even the champions that you see talking a lot and being kind of haughty still need to remain humble when they lose or otherwise they will never recover from it, this is what it is happening to Wilder, he needs to recompose himself and accept the defeat and train himself as he if was just starting his career as a boxer or he will never recover from this. [/quote]
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March 09, 2021, 02:31:20 PM |
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Can we not call the remark as one of those "spur of the moment" thing? It appears he was frustrated at the bombs his former coach dropped on him. Who wouldn't be furious when someone whom he trained under for so long says "Your career is over"? I don't think he's that mentally unwell. Perhaps emotionally unstable when he said that.
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Point taken but I do not see Wilder being a sore loser who is creating mischief for the sake of it. He really seems mentally unwell because there is not other real explanation for the comments he is making and the absurd accusations. If he really wants another fight with Fury he must get his mental health back then have some warm up fights before he can challenge Fury. Can we not call the remark as one of those "spur of the moment" thing? It appears he was frustrated at the bombs his former coach dropped on him. Who wouldn't be furious when someone whom he trained under for so long says "Your career is over"? I don't think he's that mentally unwell. Perhaps emotionally unstable when he said that.
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Can we not call the remark as one of those "spur of the moment" thing? It appears he was frustrated at the bombs his former coach dropped on him. Who wouldn't be furious when someone whom he trained under for so long says "Your career is over"? I don't think he's that mentally unwell. Perhaps emotionally unstable when he said that.
You have to understand where his former is coming from. Wilder dismissed Breland because he thinks he is colluding with the camp of Tyson Fury. I mean of all people close to Wilder, why would he accused his trainer, who have been with him since the beginning? Throwing the towel and then saying that he has spike his water? close of saying that he wanted Wilder to lose against Fury. That is absurd. So his trainer spoke about him, saying things that "your career is over", maybe he was really that close to Wilder that he knows him personally and emotionally. And we all see that Wilder can't take that lose and blame everyone.
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JollyGood (OP)
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March 11, 2021, 09:19:23 AM |
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Still just 16 votes in the poll. With the number of people posting here and the thread views it deserves more votes...
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Ziskinberg
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March 11, 2021, 11:42:56 AM |
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Still just 16 votes in the poll. With the number of people posting here and the thread views it deserves more votes...
Yeah of course, or maybe you can just put a 3rd option, which is "no comment". Anyway, Wilder vs Fury Trilogy seems dead and not happening anymore, and though Wilder trying to get some attention here, it would not benefit him.
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Kelvinid
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win lambo...
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March 11, 2021, 11:59:20 AM |
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I voted, it's 17 now. And just like what the majority think, I have the same in mind so it's all against Wilder and we can tell that people are not happy with his trying to blame strategy. If he can be a man, he needs to accept the defeat or accept if he has a mental problem now, get cured and back in the ring ASAP.
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