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February 20, 2021, 11:15:03 PM
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OP hasn't actually demonstrated anything. This is an age-old conspiracy theory being floated for the ten thousandth time. Its 100% on OP to provide any evidence that supports his claims; 0% on anybody to disprove them.

Asserting that something exists because you say it does is not how "proof" works.

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February 21, 2021, 05:24:02 AM
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OP hasn't actually demonstrated anything. This is an age-old conspiracy theory being floated for the ten thousandth time. Its 100% on OP to provide any evidence that supports his claims; 0% on anybody to disprove them.

Asserting that something exists because you say it does is not how "proof" works.

So by that logic, asserting that one way functions (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-way_function) exist is a mistake as well, right?

The difference is that I'm not building technology based on my claims. I'm not using my claims as a store of monetary value. I'm not advertising my claims to the world as a store of monetary value, and reaping a large benefit if my claims are intentionally false and misleading.
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February 22, 2021, 10:44:44 AM
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Why should we prove your claims? The one making the claims should prove them also.
Here is a SHA256 hash: 00000000000000000002958a78bb4038b72cb1681aceab0fa17106b4e250a8f8 find a collision.
Here is a EC public key: 03cb8f9734f4dc2e423dad83d59f7f2e823a9ab4df0e1fa1b18690f8bd0376cd9b "forge" it whatever it means!

Why should I prove my claims? It would be a great sacrifice.

If I do have a working solution, then I have no incentive to prove it. Since everyone believes the system works anyway, I can steal coins in a very targeted manner and be rich as long as nobody reveals the truth. You forget to take into account the most important thing, which is the violence, greed, dishonesty inherent to every being living in a competitive and cruel world like the human world.

In the best case, if I'm a good hearted person, I could issue some warnings on bitcointalk and say "I told you" after the truth is revealed intentionally or accidentally by someone else. That would be a funny thing to do also.

As said in The Matrix, "denial is the most predictible of all humans responses". Remember Neo's reactions: https://youtu.be/lBo_mVV81n8?t=238

You have many questions for us about the nature of your discovery but you remain irrevocably mortal. Some of my answers you will understand, and some you will not.

You stumbled upon a solution where nearly ninety-nine percent of your inputs to this proof resulted in the correct output of your targeted functions. While your solution worked, it was fundamentally flawed, creating the otherwise contradictory systemic anomaly that, if left unchecked, might threaten the system itself. You have found an anomaly, which despite your sincerest efforts have unable to eliminate from what is otherwise a harmony of mathematical precision.

Which brings us to the last moment of truth, wherein the fundamental flaw is ultimately expressed, and the Anomaly revealed as both beginning... and end.

(It is its inability to reverse 1G of any curve, CRC32(0), TripleDES, RSA256, and other trivial functions! And thus by induction, without even knowing your theorem, I have disproved it for all inputs.)

source: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0234215/characters/nm0048127

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February 22, 2021, 12:31:32 PM
Last edit: February 22, 2021, 12:44:07 PM by demanze
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You have many questions for us about the nature of your discovery but you remain irrevocably mortal. Some of my answers you will understand, and some you will not.

You stumbled upon a solution where nearly ninety-nine percent of your inputs to this proof resulted in the correct output of your targeted functions. While your solution worked, it was fundamentally flawed, creating the otherwise contradictory systemic anomaly that, if left unchecked, might threaten the system itself. You have found an anomaly, which despite your sincerest efforts have unable to eliminate from what is otherwise a harmony of mathematical precision.

Which brings us to the last moment of truth, wherein the fundamental flaw is ultimately expressed, and the Anomaly revealed as both beginning... and end.

(It is its inability to reverse 1G of any curve, CRC32(0), TripleDES, RSA256, and other trivial functions! And thus by induction, without even knowing your theorem, I have disproved it for all inputs.)

source: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0234215/characters/nm0048127

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August 24, 2021, 03:11:32 PM
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I believe P = NP. Anything that can be checked quickly, can be solved quickly. SHA-2 collisions are feasible. Secp256k1 keys can be forged. One-way functions do not exist.  

I also believe that someone already knows and is using this knowledge at their own advantage. They're laughing at the world and how easily humans can be manipulated into investing their hard earned money into something worthless at the mathematical level. They will never reveal the secret and will keep stealing large amount of coins again and again from reused keys like they did with Mt. Gox.

Prove me wrong

I agree with you, because nothing man-made is perfect.
I monitor bitcoin transactions related to old addresses(Apparently they are forgotten or do not have an owner).
But sometimes they empty in a matter of minutes, this is definitely not the job of a quantum computer.
There must be a recurrence relation! at least a or more.
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