Tomatocage

[Timelord2067]

For example: @chronicsky which is still active February 19, 2021, this is the Alt mentioned in the link above.
Try to contact, there may be a solution for you, further.

To clarify, there are two things, - firstly, I can't edit the above referenced post in a locked thread, and secondly, I have posted the following on @chronicsky's trust feedback page.

Timelord2067

2019-11-20

chronicsky contacted me about investigations I conducted & provided me with (a combination of screen-shots of PM's with others accused & links) that indicate plausible explanations as to why other UID's were using chronicsky's wallet addresses. chronicsky reply to my original post confirms ownership of the three UID's mentioned. (Delete)

Timelord2067

2019-11-20

Please read these posts in connection with my previous comment as some information cannot be independently verified. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1702409.msg17825633#msg17825633 / http://archive.ph/XJzFL#selection-8385.0-8431.2 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1702409.msg17937868#msg17937868 / http://archive.is/y2HWf#selection-6689.0-6757.2 (Delete)

and chronicsky in turn posted this:

chronicsky

2019-11-20

Reference

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/05/16/blobc2e88c21fcdd3768.png TL left me a negative feedback in 2017 about my account selling activities of 2015, wrongly accused me of scamming and wrongly connected me to several accounts. I gave proper proofs but he did not seem to have read them at that time. He has properly read them and cleared my name since now. Better late than never.

Interpreting evidence, even when there are multiple examples linking two UID's can sometimes lead to a false positive.


In relation to tomatocage (who self escrowed):

As more posts and threads evolved, it would now seem there were two to four users passing UID's backwards and forwards.  That "agreement" seems to have now fizzled out.


My apologies again to @chronicsky for getting dragged into this.

@YOSHI, please check a person's trust feedback before posting next time.


Middle finger goes to @nutildah

[1715137988]

1715137988

[YOSHIE]

My apologies again to @chronicsky for getting dragged into this.

@YOSHI, please check a person's trust feedback before posting next time.

Yes, I didn't check the written feedback, I just saw @chronicsky was on the list.

Yes, I also apologize to @chronicsky, for dragging you into this ridiculous problem, it's purely the OP's own fault, doing transactions via telegram outside of this forum.

I can only tell @chronicsky, because @Timelord2067 has clarified this matter, so, this thread becomes one proof in the future, that @chronicsky is free from accusations Alt from anywhere if there are other cases, on behalf of the @Tomatocage telegram.

[poppro]

At first I traded with the other guy an account
And I have deposited 165 $ to Tomato
After the guy texted, I wanted to sell 18 accounts
and after a while I disagree and I only bought 3 accounts for $ 730
And I have shipped Tomato 730 $
and the seller accepted to sell 3 accounts
But then he refused to give me the account because and forced me to transfer money at the correct price with 18 accounts
and I request to cancel the transaction
I could give him $ 50 and the other guy $ 30 as a waste of their time
But he won't let me cancel
meanwhile in the transaction he does not make any rules
And then he said that was his law
I have never seen an unauthorized transaction

[Timelord2067]

At first I traded with the other guy an account
And I have deposited 165 $ to Tomato
After the guy texted, I wanted to sell 18 accounts
and after a while I disagree and I only bought 3 accounts for $ 730
And I have shipped Tomato 730 $
and the seller accepted to sell 3 accounts
But then he refused to give me the account because and forced me to transfer money at the correct price with 18 accounts
and I request to cancel the transaction
I could give him $ 50 and the other guy $ 30 as a waste of their time
But he won't let me cancel
meanwhile in the transaction he does not make any rules
And then he said that was his law
I have never seen an unauthorized transaction

In my opinion buying that many UID's can only mean you were wanting to rake in Signature Campaign funds, or scam.  The fact that you're not sharing any information (PP/BTC payment transaction details and/or emails phone numbers etc) tells me you'd be nailed if you provided such information.

Either way you've been out played by a scammer with more nouse than yourself.


Time to lock this thread and move back into the shadows with your throw-away account.

[poppro]

I have pictures as evidence! But I don't know how to post it

[nutildah]

I have pictures as evidence! But I don't know how to post it

OK, first go here: www.imgur.com

Drag and drop the pictures (they make you watch an ad now) into the website.

Copy the links for each picture and paste them here.


I have a feeling I know who it is already but would like some confirmation.

Regardless, hard to stop people from getting scammed if a scammer already has a flag and negative feedback. We'll see if that's the case.

[eddie13]

. I will remove the neutral in a week

How generous of you..

hard to stop people from getting scammed if a scammer already has a flag and negative feedback.

All these flags and tags don’t STOP scams after all??
False sense of security is false?

Maybe flags and tags are good for punishment and not much good for prevention..

[Vod]

All these flags and tags don’t STOP scams after all??

Just last week I realized that while I was exposing one scam, a dozen identical facebook/twitter scams were being organized on this forum.

 

[Bitcoin_Arena]

All these flags and tags don’t STOP scams after all??
False sense of security is false?

Maybe flags and tags are good for punishment and not much good for prevention..

It's not like there's a forum prison where scammers who are identified are jailed in there  

Anyway I think the flags or feedback just do their job well if one takes time to read through the warnings, is not dumb enough to ignore them and go ahead and get scammed. The prevention is only as good as the person reading the feedback or flag.

[actmyname]

All these flags and tags don’t STOP scams after all??
False sense of security is false?

Maybe flags and tags are good for punishment and not much good for prevention..

Remember: the whole stance on not banning scammers or doing much about it was to prevent a false sense of security from developing. Though, Newbies probably would have no idea that they needed to be careful without a welcome message.

[OgNasty]

All these flags and tags don’t STOP scams after all??
False sense of security is false?

Maybe flags and tags are good for punishment and not much good for prevention..

Not only does all the tagging not make a difference, but it spreads negativity and leads these users who wouldn’t have been able to scam anyone anyway turn to trying to cause trouble here. It reminds me of the saying, “fighting for peace is like fucking for virginity.” You guys that go around tagging newbies really do seem like that’s the approach you’re taking to me.

As for the OP, you should lock this topic. You can’t go around making accusations because of what some random user on a third party site says... Who are you, owlcatz?

[Vod]

You can’t go around making accusations because of what some random user on a third party site says...

What should the repercussions be when repeated over and over?

[OgNasty]

As somebody who's issued a lot of tags for bullshit reasons that have nothing to do with trading on the forum your opinion is pretty much worthless here.

You sound like a brainwashed idiot when you say dumb shit like this...

I'm pretty sure every user who has ever received a negative feedback rating from me has 1) attempted to scam (likely using my name), 2) threatened to harm me physically, 3) spread lies repeatedly in an attempt to damage my trustworthiness.

Maybe in a few select cases only 2 of those 3 are true, but to say that any of my negative trust ratings aren't 100% deserved is merely a sign of your ignorance and gullibility or lack of knowing what you're talking about.  Nothing more.  It is sad that users like you, who haven't made any sort of positive impact or contribution to this forum feel like you should be attacking those that do.  You are the problem here, not me.  Do something positive.  Create a use case for Bitcoin.  If you can't do that, at the very least stop being a thorn in the side for people that do.

[Vod]

It is sad that users like you, who haven't made any sort of positive impact or contribution to this forum feel like you should be attacking those that do.  You are the problem here, not me.  Do something positive.  Create a use case for Bitcoin.  If you can't do that, at the very least stop being a thorn in the side for people that do.

How many bitcoin have you donated to help those that need it?  You only talk big ideas.

And what should be done to people that repeatedly post lies from a third party website?

[suchmoon]

I'm pretty sure every user who has ever received a negative feedback rating from me has 1) attempted to scam (likely using my name), 2) threatened to harm me physically, 3) spread lies repeatedly in an attempt to damage my trustworthiness.

#3 is a bullshit reason for red trust and you just made it up to justify your trust abuse against e.g. anonymousminer or minifrij or other users who said things you didn't like.

[OgNasty]

I'm pretty sure every user who has ever received a negative feedback rating from me has 1) attempted to scam (likely using my name), 2) threatened to harm me physically, 3) spread lies repeatedly in an attempt to damage my trustworthiness.

#3 is a bullshit reason for red trust and you just made it up to justify your trust abuse against e.g. anonymousminer or minifrij or other users who said things you didn't like.

So you think it's ok to spread lies about people purely to damage their trustworthiness to the community?  Good to know.  That explains your entire approach to me on this forum.  You spread lies and attack others to damage their trustworthiness and then claim you did nothing wrong.  At least you can admit it.

As for anonymousminer, he threatened me with violence many times via PM and in my opinion should have been banned for his behavior.  I think in a vast majority of internet communities he would have been.  A negative feedback is a slap on the wrist and he likely deserved jail time for his threats. 

minifrij harassed and tried to extort a user from this forum along with several others as I watched in a chatroom.  They attacked his trust rating, called him at home, threatened his mother, etc...  The fact that anyone could trust minifrij after this or stick up for this behavior is disgusting.  Another example of a user who should probably have seen jail time for their behavior, but instead gets trusted by suchmoon.  See a pattern yet?

[suchmoon]

So you think it's ok to spread lies about people purely to damage their trustworthiness to the community?  Good to know.  That explains your entire approach to me on this forum.  You spread lies and attack others to damage their trustworthiness and then claim you did nothing wrong.  At least you can admit it.

As for anonymousminer, he threatened me with violence many times via PM and in my opinion should have been banned for his behavior.  I think in a vast majority of internet communities he would have been.  A negative feedback is a slap on the wrist and he likely deserved jail time for his threats. 

minifrij harassed and tried to extort a user from this forum along with several others as I watched in a chatroom.  They attacked his trust rating, called him at home, threatened his mother, etc...  The fact that anyone could trust minifrij after this or stick up for this behavior is disgusting.  Another example of a user who should probably have seen jail time for their behavior, but instead gets trusted by suchmoon.  See a pattern yet?

Except that's not what your trust ratings or references say. For example:

anonymousminer

2020-02-17

Reference

Falsely claiming I used funds taken from the Nasty organization to purchase solar panels for my home. I have not stolen any funds and paid for my solar panels out of my own pocket with my own funds.

Reference links to:

Not sure, if everyone has looked at this coin that came for sale, here are some new pics and details of the transactions to the address of this coin.

Oct 8, 2019 4:01:58 PM  - 0.001018 BTC
Aug 17, 2018 8:23:40 PM - 0.0011605 BTC
May 25, 2018 5:54:30 PM - 0.0010405 BTC
Jan 27, 2018 9:39:30 PM - 0.001016 BTC
Oct 14, 2017 9:25:40 PM - 0.001025 BTC
Aug 29, 2017 7:03:15 AM - 0.0012795 BTC
Jul 17, 2017 10:48:14 PM - 0.0011845 BTC
Jun 10, 2017 7:52:46 PM - 0.002317 BTC
May 8, 2017 6:03:40 PM - 0.0037615 BTC
Apr 15, 2017 4:20:32 AM - 0.001407 BTC
Apr 9, 2017 1:39:26 AM - 0.0014785 BTC
Feb 4, 2017 9:54:06 PM - 0.001352 BTC
Jan 14, 2017 3:20:08 AM - 0.001396 BTC
Dec 16, 2016 6:05:57 PM - 0.0011035 BTC
Nov 18, 2016 10:48:49 PM - 0.0012045 BTC
Aug 12, 2016 3:45:06 PM - 0.001046 BTC
Jun 28, 2016 8:18:54 PM - 0.0012975 BTC

I didn't check it yet but that would be 17 transactions to this address.

This doesn't really match this: http://archive.is/dFH2m, check picture, it clearly says "weekly distribution". There should be ~208 transactions in 4 years, right?

Why are 191 transactions missing from this address?

Because it's a HUGE SCAM!!!!  OG was busy using profits putting solar panels on his house "for the mining operation" rather than funding coins properly..... ALL those "nastyfans donations" went right in their pockets as well.

It seems that every time stuff like this comes up, you start talking about some mysterious PMs that somehow justify your trust system abuse. You should report the PMs to admins instead of this vigilante nonsense. But the reality is that you get triggered by someone saying unpleasant things about you and then you backfill the story to excuse your thin-skinned trust ratings.

That's the pattern you're looking for.

[OgNasty]

So you think it's ok to spread lies about people purely to damage their trustworthiness to the community?  Good to know.  That explains your entire approach to me on this forum.  You spread lies and attack others to damage their trustworthiness and then claim you did nothing wrong.  At least you can admit it.

As for anonymousminer, he threatened me with violence many times via PM and in my opinion should have been banned for his behavior.  I think in a vast majority of internet communities he would have been.  A negative feedback is a slap on the wrist and he likely deserved jail time for his threats. 

minifrij harassed and tried to extort a user from this forum along with several others as I watched in a chatroom.  They attacked his trust rating, called him at home, threatened his mother, etc...  The fact that anyone could trust minifrij after this or stick up for this behavior is disgusting.  Another example of a user who should probably have seen jail time for their behavior, but instead gets trusted by suchmoon.  See a pattern yet?

Except that's not what your trust ratings or references say. For example:

anonymousminer

2020-02-17

Reference

Falsely claiming I used funds taken from the Nasty organization to purchase solar panels for my home. I have not stolen any funds and paid for my solar panels out of my own pocket with my own funds.

Reference links to:

Not sure, if everyone has looked at this coin that came for sale, here are some new pics and details of the transactions to the address of this coin.

Oct 8, 2019 4:01:58 PM  - 0.001018 BTC
Aug 17, 2018 8:23:40 PM - 0.0011605 BTC
May 25, 2018 5:54:30 PM - 0.0010405 BTC
Jan 27, 2018 9:39:30 PM - 0.001016 BTC
Oct 14, 2017 9:25:40 PM - 0.001025 BTC
Aug 29, 2017 7:03:15 AM - 0.0012795 BTC
Jul 17, 2017 10:48:14 PM - 0.0011845 BTC
Jun 10, 2017 7:52:46 PM - 0.002317 BTC
May 8, 2017 6:03:40 PM - 0.0037615 BTC
Apr 15, 2017 4:20:32 AM - 0.001407 BTC
Apr 9, 2017 1:39:26 AM - 0.0014785 BTC
Feb 4, 2017 9:54:06 PM - 0.001352 BTC
Jan 14, 2017 3:20:08 AM - 0.001396 BTC
Dec 16, 2016 6:05:57 PM - 0.0011035 BTC
Nov 18, 2016 10:48:49 PM - 0.0012045 BTC
Aug 12, 2016 3:45:06 PM - 0.001046 BTC
Jun 28, 2016 8:18:54 PM - 0.0012975 BTC

I didn't check it yet but that would be 17 transactions to this address.

This doesn't really match this: http://archive.is/dFH2m, check picture, it clearly says "weekly distribution". There should be ~208 transactions in 4 years, right?

Why are 191 transactions missing from this address?

Because it's a HUGE SCAM!!!!  OG was busy using profits putting solar panels on his house "for the mining operation" rather than funding coins properly..... ALL those "nastyfans donations" went right in their pockets as well.

It seems that every time stuff like this comes up, you start talking about some mysterious PMs that somehow justify your trust system abuse. You should report the PMs to admins instead of this vigilante nonsense. But the reality is that you get triggered by someone saying unpleasant things about you and then you backfill the story to excuse your thin-skinned trust ratings.

That's the pattern you're looking for.

Evidence of anonymousminer lying about the lack of distributions here: https://nastyfans.org/distribution.summary.csv

Funny how you tell me to report PMs to admins instead of using the tools they provided for me to distrust those who engage in pathetic threats. Admins here don’t do anything but tell you to file a police report. Maybe if you stood up to these abusive users and got some death threats sent to you instead of supporting their behavior then you’d know that already.

What any of this has to do with some newbie getting scammed, I have no idea. I guess anytime I comment in this section I can count on suchmoon using it as an opportunity to spread lies and try to get me to remove valid ratings for her extortionist and wannabe tough guy buddies.

[anonymousminer]

I'm pretty sure every user who has ever received a negative feedback rating from me has 1) attempted to scam (likely using my name), 2) threatened to harm me physically, 3) spread lies repeatedly in an attempt to damage my trustworthiness.

#3 is a bullshit reason for red trust and you just made it up to justify your trust abuse against e.g. anonymousminer or minifrij or other users who said things you didn't like.

So you think it's ok to spread lies about people purely to damage their trustworthiness to the community?  Good to know.  That explains your entire approach to me on this forum.  You spread lies and attack others to damage their trustworthiness and then claim you did nothing wrong.  At least you can admit it.

As for anonymousminer, he threatened me with violence many times via PM and in my opinion should have been banned for his behavior.  I think in a vast majority of internet communities he would have been.  A negative feedback is a slap on the wrist and he likely deserved jail time for his threats.  

minifrij harassed and tried to extort a user from this forum along with several others as I watched in a chatroom.  They attacked his trust rating, called him at home, threatened his mother, etc...  The fact that anyone could trust minifrij after this or stick up for this behavior is disgusting.  Another example of a user who should probably have seen jail time for their behavior, but instead gets trusted by suchmoon.  See a pattern yet?

I have the PMs about you "killing me with your gun" and making threats to my family.  You really are a waste of a human being.  For the last time.... what a shitty way to lived a blessed life.  You are a scumbag, a coward, a thief, a scammer and seriously just piss off.  You pretend to be this beacon of morality... LMFAO... again piss off and GFY!!

[suchmoon]

Funny how you tell me to report PMs to admins instead of using the tools they provided for me to distrust those who engage in pathetic threats. Admins here don’t do anything but tell you to file a police report. Maybe if you stood up to these abusive users and got some death threats sent to you instead of supporting their behavior then you’d know that already.

I have received death threats and I have reported them. Apparently you again have no clue what you're talking about and just looking for way to justify your trust abuse. You have a history of sending inappropriate PMs and misrepresenting private conversations so you can't be trusted on your claims about some secret threats.

What any of this has to do with some newbie getting scammed, I have no idea. I guess anytime I comment in this section I can count on suchmoon using it as an opportunity to spread lies and try to get me to remove valid ratings for her extortionist and wannabe tough guy buddies.

Feel free to remove your off-topic posts. Speaking of lies, neither anonymousminer nor minifrij are my "buddies" so trying to paint this as some sort of conspiracy is quite pathetic even by your narcissistic standards.