Tru.bet scam alert owe me 0.0011 btc.

[shivatheboss]

All they is saying that bunch of users claim bonus with vpn, and bet with each other which is ridiculous because to get to 0.0001 to 0.001 btc you need at least 10-12 accounts and over 10 bets. As you can see in my case my last bet was of 0.00049 at over 2 odds with their Chat moderator name ''PAULI'', are they saying that I created '' Pauli'' too and set these odds?
They too my action and now not willing to pay that is it to the matter. I am giving them 24 hours to pay me if there is any confusion going on because I can see that they misunderstood me perhaps, after that I will open a flag against them.

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[CryCrptoCry]

One that is clearly wrong on tru.bet's part is this:

Lets assume he/she created one thousand fake accounts and claim thousand of bitcoins but as a matter of fact PAULI is a indeed a part of admin's team because he is the one who has a moderator account.
Consider this. If OP would have lost they still need to pay pauli because, creating multiple account has nothing to do with  their own chat moderator's account booking action.
Since bet has taken place they must pay it.

[iamwithyou]

One that is clearly wrong on tru.bet's part is this:

Lets assume he/she created one thousand fake accounts and claim thousand of bitcoins but as a matter of fact PAULI is a indeed a part of admin's team because he is the one who has a moderator account.
Consider this. If OP would have lost they still need to pay pauli because, creating multiple account has nothing to do with  their own chat moderator's account booking action.
Since bet has taken place they must pay it.

Indeed you analysis is great here, I am also familiar with PAULI, but I do not think he is only chat moderator there I think they don't have any team (most probably PAULI is the admin himself).
What happened IMHO is they book his action and when he wins (buffalos are underdogs anyway),
They denied his cash out because it is going from their own pocket.
  

[iv4n]

All they is saying that bunch of users claim bonus with vpn, and bet with each other which is ridiculous because to get to 0.0001 to 0.001 btc you need at least 10-12 accounts and over 10 bets. As you can see in my case my last bet was of 0.00049 at over 2 odds with their Chat moderator name ''PAULI'', are they saying that I created '' Pauli'' too and set these odds?
They too my action and now not willing to pay that is it to the matter. I am giving them 24 hours to pay me if there is any confusion going on because I can see that they misunderstood me perhaps, after that I will open a flag against them.

If you are honest and you didn't create multiple accounts to cheat then it would be better to flag them right away, than fooling around here in the gambling section! I simply think you would draw more attention there, and some members would check your claims and site claims and you would get more help!
I think it's not fair to not pay you if you were honest! So according to that flag right away! Simply losing time on this nonsense is more pain in the ass than it's about money, at least I think like that after dealing with some crazy support guys!

[nakamura12]

If you are honest and you didn't create multiple accounts to cheat then it would be better to flag them right away, than fooling around here in the gambling section! I simply think you would draw more attention there, and some members would check your claims and site claims and you would get more help!
I think it's not fair to not pay you if you were honest! So according to that flag right away! Simply losing time on this nonsense is more pain in the ass than it's about money, at least I think like that after dealing with some crazy support guys!

Indeed but op give tru.bet 24 hours to let op withdraw his winnings before creating a flag for tru.bet. It is true that there is no point in taking it long to flag them if you are telling the truth and not hiding the truth. Would it be like abusing the flag system?. Providing proofs should be needed even if you are telling the truth.

[Beparanf]

One that is clearly wrong on tru.bet's part is this:

Lets assume he/she created one thousand fake accounts and claim thousand of bitcoins but as a matter of fact PAULI is a indeed a part of admin's team because he is the one who has a moderator account.
Consider this. If OP would have lost they still need to pay pauli because, creating multiple account has nothing to do with  their own chat moderator's account booking action.
Since bet has taken place they must pay it.

Indeed you analysis is great here, I am also familiar with PAULI, but I do not think he is only chat moderator there I think they don't have any team (most probably PAULI is the admin himself).
What happened IMHO is they book his action and when he wins (buffalos are underdogs anyway),
They denied his cash out because it is going from their own pocket.
  

This is a typical scenario where casino is using the VPN reason to user that successfully won in there giveaway. The thing that really surprise me on this case was the amount that the casino are denying to pay was small enough to escalate like this. LOL.


@true.bet, can you release the proof that OP is indeed using Vpn and created multiple account?

[Haunebu]

If you are honest and you didn't create multiple accounts to cheat then it would be better to flag them right away, than fooling around here in the gambling section!

Op is cautiously handling the matter based on what I observed. I guess he feels that his money is as good as gone if he raises a flag against them.

The thing that really surprise me on this case was the amount that the casino are denying to pay was small enough to escalate like this. LOL.

This is the part that confused me as well. Why on earth would they try and run away with such a small amount since they launched recently? Usually, scam sites tend to run with a truckload of money. Perplexing situation.

[Cling18]

I registered on true.bet and applied for 0.0001btc signup bonus, I betted and and made build my bankroll to 0.0005 btc  and tried to cash out as this was the minimum balance required and guess what bingo!! they have increased the minimum cash out to 0.001btc. I betted my 0.00049 btc witha guy name pauli who is kind of chat moderator and  won 0.0011 btc ( screen shot attached). And now all is going well but when i requested a ash out of 0.0011 btc they send me 0.0001btc instead when I enquire they accused me of some multi account bullshit ( all was fine before cash out).
I want them to pay me not only my winnings but extra 0.001btc as compensation ( Ya you heard it right.)

screen shots of my bets and chat below.

https://ibb.co/yFW4M9p
https://ibb.co/qgLKvGr  

This person created multiple accounts via tor nodes, took their bonuses and and bet against himself to guarantee wins. Notice how they only have 1 post here on bitcoin talk. We still cashed them out a bonus however. Because of this person we will now be limiting our promotion to active posters on bitcointalk. Thank you.

Lets Assume that He does everything against the rule/TOS so he maybe in right chance of being banned .

but the question is Why from the 0.0005 withdrawal minimum suddenly you increased to 0.001? you should have told Him the very Moment He tried to cash out from that 0.0005 about His Violation but not you instead try to beat Him again by increasing the minimum withdrawal so he will be obliged to either deposit or try to win again so the withdrawal will be allowed but to your surprise He won again and now here's the violation enters?

I Smell Fishy on this Part.

One of the questionable mistake is, why did they have to change the minimum withdrawal amount instantly? I think it will surely be too unfair for, Op. However, Op should raise this concern to them right away so they could both fix it directly because issues like this will ruin the reputation of a certain site.

[panjul07]

@true.bet, can you release the proof that OP is indeed using Vpn and created multiple account?

This is the best thing to make everything clear so we do not speculate too much further about the case.
For me, I have no ideas why tru.bet is willing to ruin the reputation for 0.001btc while I believe what they have spent to build the website costs more than that.
They have just started the business earlier this month, so it wont be good start if they cant resolve this accusation.
They need to do it as soon as possible, it is not that complicated issue to resolve IMO and if they cant provide the proof publicly, they can show it to one or two reputable members in this forum to verify it.

[LUCKMCFLY]

It is difficult to be a judge in this case, on the one hand when it is allowed to enter platforms using VPN and creating multiple accounts is something very difficult for casino owners to handle, in this case I think they can reach an agreement if the site shows the evidence that tor nodes were used to get there and realize that it is multi-account, the other option is that I do not think that a site that is starting with 0.001BTC is going to leave everything like that, it is best to fix it in the best way so that the site follow its growth.

If you plan a signature campaign on the forum, you have to clean up and build a great reputation so that the platform will be more successful and generate much more trust.

[tru.bet]

This is a tough one. Both op and Tru.bet have put forth their opinions and I am finding it tough to decide who is actually right here since none of them seem to be in the wrong here. I am leaning slightly towards op though due to the evidence he provided.

If tru.bet can negate his evidence by sharing their own evidence, their legitimacy could be proven. If not, they will face an uphill battle.

Hey Haunebu, have you even had a chance to come to the site at all and make a few bets? Have you had a chance to read our thread?

[tru.bet]

@true.bet, can you release the proof that OP is indeed using Vpn and created multiple account?

This is the best thing to make everything clear so we do not speculate too much further about the case.
For me, I have no ideas why tru.bet is willing to ruin the reputation for 0.001btc while I believe what they have spent to build the website costs more than that.
They have just started the business earlier this month, so it wont be good start if they cant resolve this accusation.
They need to do it as soon as possible, it is not that complicated issue to resolve IMO and if they cant provide the proof publicly, they can show it to one or two reputable members in this forum to verify it.

You want a list of TOR IP addresses he used? Sure here you go, just 4 of the accounts he made, there are others as well.

User: agadmator    https://www.ip2location.com/demo/104.244.72.36
User: ExtensiveDamselfly https://www.ip2location.com/demo/94.230.208.147
User: SerpentineWhale  https://www.ip2location.com/demo/185.220.101.19
User knockknock08 - https://www.ip2location.com/demo/162.247.74.200

As you can see from our thread we are legitimate. We just don't like scummy players coming to our site trying to game our system. Thank you!

[shivatheboss]

@true.bet, can you release the proof that OP is indeed using Vpn and created multiple account?

This is the best thing to make everything clear so we do not speculate too much further about the case.
For me, I have no ideas why tru.bet is willing to ruin the reputation for 0.001btc while I believe what they have spent to build the website costs more than that.
They have just started the business earlier this month, so it wont be good start if they cant resolve this accusation.
They need to do it as soon as possible, it is not that complicated issue to resolve IMO and if they cant provide the proof publicly, they can show it to one or two reputable members in this forum to verify it.

You want a list of TOR IP addresses he used? Sure here you go, just 4 of the accounts he made, there are others as well.

User: agadmator    https://www.ip2location.com/demo/104.244.72.36
User: ExtensiveDamselfly https://www.ip2location.com/demo/94.230.208.147
User: SerpentineWhale  https://www.ip2location.com/demo/185.220.101.19
User knockknock08 - https://www.ip2location.com/demo/162.247.74.200

As you can see from our thread we are legitimate. We just don't like scummy players coming to our site trying to game our system. Thank you!

I have nothing to do with all the above mentioned accounts. You are just a low budget scammer

[tru.bet]

@true.bet, can you release the proof that OP is indeed using Vpn and created multiple account?

This is the best thing to make everything clear so we do not speculate too much further about the case.
For me, I have no ideas why tru.bet is willing to ruin the reputation for 0.001btc while I believe what they have spent to build the website costs more than that.
They have just started the business earlier this month, so it wont be good start if they cant resolve this accusation.
They need to do it as soon as possible, it is not that complicated issue to resolve IMO and if they cant provide the proof publicly, they can show it to one or two reputable members in this forum to verify it.

You want a list of TOR IP addresses he used? Sure here you go, just 4 of the accounts he made, there are others as well.

User: agadmator    https://www.ip2location.com/demo/104.244.72.36
User: ExtensiveDamselfly https://www.ip2location.com/demo/94.230.208.147
User: SerpentineWhale  https://www.ip2location.com/demo/185.220.101.19
User knockknock08 - https://www.ip2location.com/demo/162.247.74.200

As you can see from our thread we are legitimate. We just don't like scummy players coming to our site trying to game our system. Thank you!

I have nothing to do with all the above mentioned accounts. You are just a low budget scammer

They most certainly are. You were cashed out your initial bonus. Be happy with your free BTC.

[iamwithyou]

You did not explained the bet slip with pauli, and also, you have changed your chat moderator name. Weird !!.

[tru.bet]

You did not explained the bet slip with pauli, and also, you have changed your chat moderator name. Weird !!.

There’s nothing to explain other than he fraudulently created accounts and bet against himself. We cashed out his initial bonus of .0001. Not much more to say other than we don’t support fraudulent players. Others have deposited and withdrawn successfully. End of story. Good luck and stay safe.

[CryCrptoCry]

@true.bet, can you release the proof that OP is indeed using Vpn and created multiple account?

This is the best thing to make everything clear so we do not speculate too much further about the case.
For me, I have no ideas why tru.bet is willing to ruin the reputation for 0.001btc while I believe what they have spent to build the website costs more than that.
They have just started the business earlier this month, so it wont be good start if they cant resolve this accusation.
They need to do it as soon as possible, it is not that complicated issue to resolve IMO and if they cant provide the proof publicly, they can show it to one or two reputable members in this forum to verify it.

You want a list of TOR IP addresses he used? Sure here you go, just 4 of the accounts he made, there are others as well.

User: agadmator    https://www.ip2location.com/demo/104.244.72.36
User: ExtensiveDamselfly https://www.ip2location.com/demo/94.230.208.147
User: SerpentineWhale  https://www.ip2location.com/demo/185.220.101.19
User knockknock08 - https://www.ip2location.com/demo/162.247.74.200

As you can see from our thread we are legitimate. We just don't like scummy players coming to our site trying to game our system. Thank you!

First off all what you have done here is completely wrong which is publicly sharing account IP which can lead to many problems, no reputed platform will do that. Second this does not explain a thing. You are deliberately hiding about the winning bet of 0.0011btc or whatever the exact amount, which you need to pay him.

[tru.bet]

@true.bet, can you release the proof that OP is indeed using Vpn and created multiple account?

This is the best thing to make everything clear so we do not speculate too much further about the case.
For me, I have no ideas why tru.bet is willing to ruin the reputation for 0.001btc while I believe what they have spent to build the website costs more than that.
They have just started the business earlier this month, so it wont be good start if they cant resolve this accusation.
They need to do it as soon as possible, it is not that complicated issue to resolve IMO and if they cant provide the proof publicly, they can show it to one or two reputable members in this forum to verify it.

You want a list of TOR IP addresses he used? Sure here you go, just 4 of the accounts he made, there are others as well.

User: agadmator    https://www.ip2location.com/demo/104.244.72.36
User: ExtensiveDamselfly https://www.ip2location.com/demo/94.230.208.147
User: SerpentineWhale  https://www.ip2location.com/demo/185.220.101.19
User knockknock08 - https://www.ip2location.com/demo/162.247.74.200

As you can see from our thread we are legitimate. We just don't like scummy players coming to our site trying to game our system. Thank you!

First off all what you have done here is completely wrong which is publicly sharing account IP which can lead to many problems, no reputed platform will do that. Second this does not explain a thing. You are deliberately hiding about the winning bet of 0.0011btc or whatever the exact amount, which you need to pay him.

We would never share a non TOR node account. TOR nodes are public hence why we shared it.

[iamwithyou]

@true.bet, can you release the proof that OP is indeed using Vpn and created multiple account?

This is the best thing to make everything clear so we do not speculate too much further about the case.
For me, I have no ideas why tru.bet is willing to ruin the reputation for 0.001btc while I believe what they have spent to build the website costs more than that.
They have just started the business earlier this month, so it wont be good start if they cant resolve this accusation.
They need to do it as soon as possible, it is not that complicated issue to resolve IMO and if they cant provide the proof publicly, they can show it to one or two reputable members in this forum to verify it.

You want a list of TOR IP addresses he used? Sure here you go, just 4 of the accounts he made, there are others as well.

User: agadmator    https://www.ip2location.com/demo/104.244.72.36
User: ExtensiveDamselfly https://www.ip2location.com/demo/94.230.208.147
User: SerpentineWhale  https://www.ip2location.com/demo/185.220.101.19
User knockknock08 - https://www.ip2location.com/demo/162.247.74.200

As you can see from our thread we are legitimate. We just don't like scummy players coming to our site trying to game our system. Thank you!

First off all what you have done here is completely wrong which is publicly sharing account IP which can lead to many problems, no reputed platform will do that. Second this does not explain a thing. You are deliberately hiding about the winning bet of 0.0011btc or whatever the exact amount, which you need to pay him.

LOL yeah they have openly posted usernames and ip's, only for 1mbtc. What if they does not belongs to OP as he has already denied it and why the hell you are not talking about the 1 mbtc betslip that OP has posted ?

[robelneo]

It's better to move this in the scam section there are additional good investigators there that can trace who is telling the truth, the weight is on Trubet because OP is denied payment for something he worked on, Tru bet must provide valid proof that OP has multiple accounts, there are no parameters here where users can get a warning if he is having multiple accounts before he can play, this is what happens if you are offering a bonus, without parameters implemented for double or multiple claims.